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Appreciating Jamison's 20/10 season

In the excitement that surrounded Ivan's shout out to Bullets Forever a week or so back, we never really took the time to appreciate what else he had to say after he mentioned us. Let's take a look back at the quote:

Oh, and a note only the guys over at www.bulletsforever.com can truly appreciate: Did you know that Jamison is on pace to become only the 8th Bullet/Wizard to average 20 and 10 for a full season? The others: Chris Webber, Elvin Hayes (six times), Walt Bellamy (four times), Moses (twice), Gus Johnson, Jeff Ruland and, wait for it, Pervis Ellison. Never Nervous put up 20 and 10? Yes he did. It was the 1991-92 season. I would not have guessed that in a million years.

Since we're the only ones that can truly appreciate this fact, let's go about doing it.  I think we can all agree that Jamison has been the Wizards' MVP this season, whether it's been making key tip shots, or getting hot at the absolutely best time. Antawn has been the one constant in a season full of variables.  He's currently leading the NBA with the largest net impact on team scoring and rebounding this season.  Simply put, the Wizards would not be where they are right now without Antawn (and probably Caron too, I heard he's pretty good).

But how does his 20/10 season stack up with the other Bullet/Wizards to accomplish the feat?  Let's use the always handy tables:

PPG RPG
Webber 20.1 10.3
Hayes* 23.7 12.5
Bellamy* 27.9 16.4
Malone* 24.1 11.3
Johnson 20.7 11.7
Ruland 22.2 12.3
Ellison 20.0 11.2
Jamison 21.5 10.2

* - For players with multiple 20/10 seasons, their PPG and RPG from their best season was taken.  This will apply to every table in the post.

As you can see, Jamison stats are nice, but most of the players on the list had better averages. The thing is, when you look at the averages, you have to also account for the pace at which the teams played.  A team that plays at a faster pace is going to have more field goal attempts which leads to more scoring and rebounding opportunities, so let's take a look at table #2 that lists the pace factor for each player's team.

Pace Factor
Webber 92.4
Hayes 105.9
Bellamy Not available
Malone 100.2
Johnson Not available
Ruland 97.4
Ellison 97.7
Jamison 89.5

Suddenly, Jamison's numbers look a lot more impressive.  I'm not mathematical enough to extrapolate those numbers to show what each player's numbers would look like if they all played at the same pace, but I'm willing to wager that the gap between Jamison and some of the other players on the list would narrow significantly.  I'm almost positive that with an extra 16.4 possessions that Antawn could put up the extra 2.2 points and 2.3 rebounds per game necessary to have the same numbers as Elvin Hayes, who arguably has the second best numbers on the list.  Bellamy's pace factor was unavailable, but I think it's safe to venture that if it was available it would likely be even faster than that of Hayes, which would make it more likely that Jamison's numbers are closer to Walt's than it would seem.  I feel pretty safe in guessing that Bellamy played at the fastest pace of everyone on the list because as you've probably noticed by looking at the table, the pace of basketball has been in a steady decline for quite some time.  Just take a look back 25 years, the 97.4 pace factor of  Jeff Ruland's '83-'84 Bullets (fourth slowest in the NBA that year) would be good enough for the second fastest pace in the NBA this season, better than both the Suns and the Warriors.

Even if you take away the pace factor and all the other fancy statistics, there's one thing that makes Jamison's 20/10 year extraordinary.  Compare the height and age of the players on the list and tell me which one would be picked as the least likely to be a double digit rebounder.

Age Height
Webber 23 6-9
Hayes 31 6-9
Bellamy 24 6-11
Malone 31 6-10
Johnson 28 6-6
Ruland 25 6-10
Ellison 24 6-9
Jamison 31 6-8

If you're torn between Johnson and Jamison, keep in mind that while Gus Johnson was only 6-6, he played at a time where the league was much shorter on average.  It's also worth mentioning that he had lots of freaky athleticism to compensate for any lack of height he had .  On the other hand, Jamison plays in a league where 6-8 is considered by most to be undersized for a PF and while you certainly can't classify Jamison as a stiff, he's nowhere near the leaper that Gus Johnson was.

Averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds for an entire season is nothing short of phenomenal.  When you factor in when Antawn is doing this, not only regarding where the NBA is at in terms of pace, but also where Jamison is at in his career, it makes his accomplishment this season that much more impressive.

Hopefully I'm not the only one that appreciates it.

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Jamison is like fine wine, he keeps getting better with age.  I just realized a few games ago while watching him play that his defense isn't so bad anymore.  I believe he has actually worked hard on it.  Maybe it has been better all season and I just couldn't let my previously bad impression of this go away.

His scoring and rebounding are both up this year.  He plays hard and with focus, unlike most of his teammates.  My only complaint with him now is that he falls too much in love with his 3-point shot, which can be very streaky at times (read - bad).

As for the whole pace factor thing, I'd like to know when everyone thinks the NBA got slower and why.  I noticed it during the late 80's with the Pistons to some degree and then later in the early to mid-90's with the Knicks to a much larger degree.  I was too young to watch much basketball before then, so I don't know exactly why it was so fast before the Piston's Bad Boys days.  I only remember hearing my older brothers complain about how much they hated the Pistons because they played so "ugly".  My brothers were obviously more used to a faster and looser style of play.

To me, though, I was never really bothered by a slow-paced, defensive-minded game.  I appreciated the way the Pistons (and later the Knicks) played tough defense and forced other teams to value each possession.  It seemed to me more like college basketball, where tight zone defenses forced teams to work the ball around instead of just giving it to one star player and watching him go off.  And as we all know from watching March Madness, college basketball can be very exciting.

That being said, perhaps there is another reason the game is played so much slower today than in yesteryear (as opposed to poorer defense).  I remember once watching an ESPN Classic replay of a Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals game from the mid-80's.  What stood out for me the most was how good the jump-shooting was.  When a player got an open look from 15 feet, he didn't hesitate - he hit it.  It didn't matter who the player was.  Everyone on the floor could hit an open mid-range jump-shot without even thinking about it.  They rarely missed, at least it seemed to me that way.  Missed free-throws were another rarity.  These skills appear to have been lost with today's player.  It is not uncommon for a typical NBA player to miss wide open jump-shots and only shoot 65% from the charity stripe.  In fact, they shouldn't even call it a charity stripe anymore.  They should call it a challenge stripe.  For too many of today's players it's a challenge that they can't meet.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Apr 7, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well done +
That's just a nice-ass basketball posting.
Lotta great entries lately. Keep it up.

by dcjones on Apr 7, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great post
I think Antawn's agent is going to print this out for negotiating his contract.

by Aldo on Apr 7, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With the Cold Hard Numbers
I simply took the PPG/Actual Pace*100 to create PPG with a Pace = 100. I would imagine there is some regression needed because of diminishing returns, but that would take too much time. So here is the list, Jamison, not only makes a strong case for the best 20/10 man of the Wizards, but perhaps some love for, dare I say, MVP? (Note, rounded to nearest hundredth)

Name            PP/G    RB/G

WEBBER             21.75     11.15
Hayes        22.38   11.8
Bellamy            N/A
Malone            24.05    11.29
Johnson            N/A
Ruland        22.79    12.63
Ellison        20.47    11.46
Jamison     24.02    11.4

by zeke5123 on Apr 7, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry for the formating
I tried doing it on word, then copying and Pasting but to no avail. I'm sorry about that guys.

by zeke5123 on Apr 7, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Formatting Hint
When trying to preserve monospaced fonts, try using the < code > tag (remove spaces between the greater than, "code", and less than signs when you try it).  That way, table columns are preserved.  Observe:


Column 1    Column 2
--------    --------
data        data
more data   more data
   

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Apr 7, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also
Don't forget to close the tag with a < / code > when you are done with your table.  Again, remove the spaces when you try it.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Apr 7, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very cool...
But Pervis Ellison was not 6-9. He was way taller, which emphasizes your point even more.

by jvflail on Apr 7, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought that sounded wrong
I was going to double check it before I posted but I was tired so I just threw it up there.  Maybe Pervis physically shrunk after his 20/10 year.
Bullets Forever: Where discussion on personnel decisions turn into arguments about Lindsay Lohan.

by JakeTheSnake on Apr 7, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To add to the argument
Henry Abbott links to this chart of player performance by saying that Jamison should be an MVP candidate this season, in today's TrueHoop.

http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.php?year=2007-2008

I just want to win. That's it. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Is that asking too much???

by kdp922 on Apr 7, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yeah
Did I mention he linked to this article?? :)
I just want to win. That's it. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Win. Is that asking too much???

by kdp922 on Apr 7, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'Tis because I sent it to him
But still, he did have to choose it.
Predicting how this squad is going to perform is like trying to solve trig problems with pen and paper. -sierradave.

by Mike Prada on Apr 7, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great post
I love AJ. He is my favorite player on the Wiz and I admire his professionalism. He has been such a rock this season. Really keeping this team going with all of the injuries. I really hope he resigns here.

by ooba on Apr 7, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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