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Busts & Sleepers

With every draft there are always those players that everyone knows probably won't be all that good that end up going high and players that everyone knows will end up being solid contributors for whoever takes them.  Last year it was teams taking risks with players like Adam Morrison and Shelden Williams instead of going with Brandon Roy.  The year before it was Atlanta passing up the sure thing in Chris Paul for the gamble with Marvin Williams.  So who are the candidates on both sides this year?  Here's my take:

Most likely to bust:

  1. Yi Jianlian- Questions about how his game will translate to the NBA + Questions about his age = Big Risk.  Personally, I think he'll end up alright, maybe he won't live up to his draft position, but I don't think he'll be a total flop either.
  2. Brandan Wright- Wright is amazing athlete but isn't all that good of a basketball player.  If you take him out of the paint he loses most if not all of his effectiveness.  In other words, he'd be a great fit in Atlanta.
  3. Spencer Hawes- Like Yi, I don't think he'll be a total flop, but on the other hand he's a white center which never seems to work.  Not to mention he only had double digit rebounding games twice all last season.
  4. Rodney Stuckey- Maybe it's fear of the unknown, but I just don't see how a tweener from a mid-minor conference (the Big Sky conference was 24th in Conference RPI) is going to justify being picked mid-first round.  I mean he could turn out to be a great player that we've all been sleeping on, but I just don't see it.
  5. Daequan Cook- More than likely if you saw Cook for more than 10 minutes all March it was because he was at your St. Patrick's Day party.  Cook didn't reach double digits in points in his final 11 games at Ohio State, definitely should've stayed at school for another year at least.
Most likely to play better than their draft position:
  1. Derrick Byars- Maybe a little bias here, but when was the last time that someone tagged with the "pro-ready" label failed to disappoint?
  2. Morris Almond- It largely depends on where he ends up, but if Almond finds himself with the right team (cough*Utah*cough) he could be a huge asset for a team that's looking for that last piece to get over the top.
  3. Demetrius Nichols- If you could make the second round equivalent of Derrick Byars it would probably be Demetris Nichols.  A breath of fresh air compared to most of Small Forwards that will be available at the same time that are more or less just athletes with no real basketball skill.
  4. Marko Tomas- A dead-eye shooter with enough height (listed at 6-8) to be able to get his shot off with ease.  Almost certainly the best shooter available in Round 2.  At worst he'll provide some team with a reliable outside threat.
  5. Jared Jordan- Maybe he's overhyped, maybe he's underhyped, I don't really know anymore but at the end of the day, how many teams could use a quality passer?  I'm not saying he's going to be the second coming of Steve Nash or anything, but I think he'll be a quality backup in the NBA.
Update [2007-6-28 2:0:43 by Pradamaster]:Might as well add my thoughts quickly.

The whole thing is such a crapshoot, because it's so hard to predict how a prospect fits in with the system. In terms of pure talent and "fitability," here are my 5.

Most likely to bust:

  1. Thaddeus Young- He's still living off the hype that pushed him to the third spot in his high school senior class. I don't like that he didn't dominate, and I really don't like that he was so up and down. It seems like he's still getting by on athleticism, and that simply won't fly in the NBA. He's a project not worth the risk unless you're getting him in the 20s.
  2. Hawes- Centers who can't rebound in college don't succeed in the pros. I know Hawes had some mysterious illness in the second half of the year, but he wasn't exactly tearing it up in the first half either. There's no reason why you should be outrebounded by your power forward.
  3. Javaris Crittenton- This post kind of sums it up.
  4. Sean Williams- It's not just the character issues, even if smoking marijuana really isn't a big deal. It's not even that the fact that he was kicked off the team in midseason. It's that he's a one-trick pony (shot blocking) and has never been a good rebounder or offensive player. In fact, BC was significantly better without him in the lineup.
  5. Alando Tucker/Arron Afflalo- Honestly, take your pick here. Tucker's a versatile player, but he was an incredibly inefficient scorer this year, and only had good per-game numbers because Wisconsin had little else offensively. He was kind of the Allen Iverson of the college game this year. Meanwhile, Afflalo is in a similar situation, and he's merely solid defensively, not spectacular. UCLA's defense was so good mostly because their big men were incredible trappers on the pick and roll, not because of individual perimeter defenders. The fact that Corey Brewer (who, by the way, would be number 6 on this overrated list. I don't get the hype with him) completely shut him down twice is cause for concern.
Most likely to play better than their draft position:
  1. Byars- What Jake said.
  2. Stuckey- Here's where Jake and I strongly disagree. I think Stuckey is going to be an excellent player. The small college thing doesn't worry me; guys like Joe Dumars and, most recently, Kevin Martin have become great players from small schools. We forget that Stuckey is only a sophomore, because of his diverse offensive game, featuring a sweet stroke, a fantastic mid-range jumper, and great finishing skills around the rim. I see no reason why he can't develop into a Ben Gordon/Kevin Martin type of player in the right place (here not being one).
  3. Nick Fazekas- People don't realize how insanely productive this guy was. For the last two years, his PER has been higher than Kevin Durant's was this year. He's unfairly chastised for being a soft white power forward, when, in reality, he's an incredible rebounder (14.6 per 40 this year), can mix it up inside, and is more athletic than given credit for. I honestly think Fazekas can start for many teams at power forward, including the Wizards.
  4. Jared Dudley- One thing that went unnoticed with Dudley is that he became a far more efficient scorer, even without his running mate Craig Smith. Does a lot of things well, and I'm not concerned with his lack of a position. The last time the ACC Player of the Year was this undervalued? Josh Howard in 2003.
  5. DJ Strawberry/Zabian Dowdell-Guys like these who can defend and play both guard positions well will stick as backups in this league.

(end editor's rant)

Now it's your turn, who do you think will flop in the pros?  Who are your sleepers?  Feel free to go crazy in the comments section.

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al thorton
Al is the man... he's gonna be a steal of a pick at number 12. I bet he blows up and could possibly win rookie of the year baring injury to the big two of oden and durant.  I predict he has a long and star laden career.

by erow on Jun 27, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

You know you've arrived
When FSU fans are flooding their support for Al Thornton...

Seriously, I think the guy can play though.  He flat out tore up the ACC, and really should have been Player of the Year.  Reminds me of a more perimeter-oriented David West.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Jun 28, 2007 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

More on Thaddeus
From the tremendously underrated Hoops Analyst site.

Thaddeus Young, Georgia Tech: Young's freshman year was all over the board. One game he'd check in with a clunker against a team he should have dominated like St. Francis PA or Winston-Salem. Later in the year he put up back-to-back 20+ point efforts against Carolina and Maryland. His season had a maddening inconsistency that didn't have much rhyme or reason. When the numbers are added up, they show a player who plays a little soft, has potential to be pretty good, but would be a gamble if taken too high. He's an OK scorer, but the other numbers are weak. He'll be a better scorer if he can start getting to the line more often. His FTA40 of 2.96 is by far the lowest of any player here. Watching him play, he seems like he has the talent to be a dominant perimeter defender. He's quick and has long arms. But that wasn't the case his freshman year.

I will say this about Young: I'd rather see a prospect show some flashes mixed in with poor performances as a youngster, than just steady, but mediocre play. The flashes show the player he could become. In some cases a player needs some time to play though the tough spots, figure out how to avoid them and develop more consistency. The problem Young faces is college is a better place to figure this out, because he'd be on the court as the team's star. In the pros his inconsistency will keep him on the bench and the court is always a better place to learn. Should he get buried on the bench early, which seems pretty likely at this point, it could get him in a rut that will take a few years and a few trades to get out of.

So Young is a gamble. He obviously has 1st round talent, but will probably need at least a year before he's ready to contribute much and possibly another two or three before we really see what sort of player he'll become. Any team drafting him needs to factor in this time commitment to him. If I were to guess how he'll turn out, right now I wouldn't be too optimistic. I could see him becoming a decent scorer, but a low-efficiency one who isn't all that valuable. Right now he shows no inclination to do the other things like defense and rebounding that can make such a player more valuable.

Glad to see someone else sees the light.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Jun 28, 2007 3:26 AM EDT reply actions  

No other busts
I think the list of busts sounds about right. Don't know enough about Stuckey to say whether I agree with Jake or Prada. Thaddeus Young scares me to death. All I can see is the next James White or  DerMarr Johnson.

Two guys who weren't mentioned who I think could end up being better than their draft position are Jeff Green and Stephane Lasme.

Green combines great athleticism with excellent all-around basketball skills, a terrific feel for the game and team-first unselfishness. I wouldn't be at all surprised for him to emerge as a pro with MUCH better numbers than he ever put up in college and become the third-best player in the class.

Lasme's numbers at UMass suggest 1) That he plays much bigger than his actual height and 2) that he has a go-go motor. Guys like that often end up surprising you. Well, I guess I won't be surprised if he becomes a solid NBA contributor.

The guy I think is the biggest enigma is Yi. From what I've read, he combines promising offensive skills with amazing athletic ability in a 7-foot frame. Who doesn't want the next Nowitzki? But the whole workout thing makes it seem like his handlers are hiding something. I suspect the GM who picks him isn't going to like it when he discovers what it is.

by Vanilla Gorilla on Jun 28, 2007 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I'm with you on everything
I didn't put Yi because he was too easy.

Green should be a solid, if not spectacular contributor.  Like Billy Owens in his prime.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Jun 28, 2007 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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