UPDATE, by MIKE: OK, I think this thread served its purpose. I'm going to shut it down for now.
Here is a place where DCRez and yop32 have their own space to argue as loudly and as long as they want. WindyRindy, myself and anyone else crazy enough to weigh in are welcome to do so.
That way we can keep the other threads relatively clear of our own BS.
Let's see if we persist without an audience.
So. The first topic of discussion is: Jan Vesely, future all-star or future mascot?