Links: Jeremy Lin, Linning, Linsanity, Lincredible, Lin-ktastic
by Mike Prada on Feb 9, 2012 12:24 PM EST
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Today's links:
- OK, let's just get all the Jeremy Lin links out of the way. First, general stuff. [Newsday | ESPN New York | New York Times | Bergen Record | New York Daily News | Ball Don't Lie | Hang Time Blog | New York Post | The Post Game |
- Lin crossed up John Wall, which I'm sure you haven't seen yet. [Eye on Basketball | Pro Basketball Talk | SB Nation]
- Best Lin sign ever. [SB Nation]
- Home team recaps. [Us (recap, quotes) | SB Nation D.C. | CSN Washington (Johnson, Hanrahan, Jackson, Miller) | Washington Post (gamer, blog) | Washington Times | Washington Examiner | Truth About It (recap, quotes) | Wiz of Awes | District Sports Page | WUSA9 | DC Sports Box]
- Other non-Lin focused road team recaps. [Knickerblogger | New York Daily News | Posting and Toasting| SB Nation New York]
- Randy Wittman's own son trolled his dad. [SB Nation D.C. |
- Wittman talks to 106.7 The Fan and tries to downplay JaVale McGee's mental gaffe on Monday. [106.7 The Fan]
- Maurice Evans is playing decent minutes again. [Washington Examiner]
- Wall wants the NBA to return to the old rookie/sophomore format. [Wizards Insider]
- For the draftnicks, a quick look at Syracuse's Dion Walters. [CSN Washington]
- The Wizards make two appearances on Jon Bois' Animated GIFs of January list. [SB Nation]
- Finally, I couldn't help but get in with #Linsanity. Here's my scouting report of what makes him so successful. [SB Nation]
- Heads-up: Keys to the Palace will be up later this afternoon.
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Any Syracuse prospect gets a red flag from me
after Tjarks’ article…and Wesley Johnson
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST reply actions
The Palace is quickly becoming a 2br condo John and Trevor share.
by DCrez on Feb 9, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hey,
at least we know we have a couple guys able to pay the rent each week.
by young, loud and Scotty on Feb 9, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
And Lin goes from under-rated to over-exposed in record time
Was it even 72 hours?
Great story, but I’m already sick of hearing about him (and I haven’t even been able to watch this game yet).
by steadyhand on Feb 9, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
one thing i've learned
when the media picks someone they like, they will push them to the top like none other
Mike P.
was that Lin article really a cleverly disguised template for someone else to follow???
not sure I follow
I was referring to it being a check list of areas that Wall could improve.
I'm saying
If it was meant to be a “here’s how Wall should mimic Lin,” I’d have just come out and said it here.
Posted this the other day but if Cousins were available at all...
I would trave McGee + Vesely for Cousins + Outlaw. Take on Outlaw’s remaining 3 years at $3 mil a year to make the trade numbers work. I would even throw in our 2013 first round pick if we had to and would consider making it unprotected. I just think we desperately need another piece and Cousins would be that piece. Our draft pick will most likely be in the top 3 and in this draft, that player will most likely be a piece as well. If we end up being able to draft Anthony Davis then our interior is set for the future with Cousins at 5 and Davis at 4. So if we had any type of chance I would do a Vesely + McGee + 2013 first rounder for Cousins + Outlaw. We need to make a bold move
Just gotta hope he blows up at the squad again or something
Maybe next time they play the wiz at home we should all heckle him so he gets pissed
Sac wont trade Cousins he's too talented
They just got rid of a coach for him…c’mon guys. They’ll rid him all the way to the bitter end like Dwight. They’re only hope is that they offer him a huge extension and he signs it. Otherwise, just gotta wait til his and Wall’s rookie contracts are up
Our draft pick will most likely be in the top 3
Actually, the odds that we draft 4/5 are sliiiightly higher than us picking top 3… Add in the fact that’s a strong draft class (combined with curse of les boulez) and we can just go ahead and round that up to six.
VOID!!!
by dt3 on Feb 9, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Win the draft, draft Davis and sign Howard
I really don’t see where the problem is. I am sure Leonsis can afford to buy Wizard 1 to fly to Orlando.
The team would not have so many perimeter problems
if they didn’t have to constantly over help in the paint and some good interior defenders who can run a pick and roll if that is where the wiz are heading. They simply don’t have the players. The team has the guards. They have some shooters, but shooters are dime a dozen compared to trying to put the big men the team needs on the floor.
by hambonejackson on Feb 9, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am sold on a top front court prospect, preferably center
I know He and Drummond are considered the top prospects. I wont know who I like better until the NCAA tourney.
If we go center, which we know we need since JVM is leaving, then that guy has to nab 10+ boards a night if we are going to pair him with Booker. Because Book does not board enough on his own.
We should have a top 6 pick. And there might be Davis, Drummond, Sullinger, and Robinson to choose from. I plan to watch them all in the tourney to see which one steps up their game.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I don't know either
I haven’t seen enough. I do know that I’m not a big fan of Barnes. I want to like Sullinger but when I see him play I think he will really struggle to get his shot off.
and sulliger has been a little injured this season which is never a good sign. but i did like that he trimmed down and got rid of a lot of that fat he carried
we need a front court player. you have to have a star in the front and back court to have a chance. you are too unbalanced if not. as good as durant/westbrook/harden is…that team is not going to win until they can get easy buckets in the playoffs…which is code for inside scoring.
actually, they would be wise to trade us harden for our 2013 lottery pick while they can get something for him. we get our front court player this season and perimeter complement next season…win/win for both teams
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
At a minimum he is a young Marcus Camby
He singlehandedly unglued a decent Florida team at home the other day.
If Ernie parts with JaVale now, it has to be with an eye to picking Davis.
There are a lot of nice players in this draft… for one, Davis’s teammate Kidd-Gilchrist would make any NBA team better… but none of them have game-changer written all over them. Davis does.
my ideal set up down the road
PG Wall
SG A. Rivers (2013 draft)
SF. N. Batum (restricted FA)
PF. Cousins
C. A. Davis
what a squad
Davis is a PF, Cousins is a C
Rivers is ball dominant, wouldn’t fit well with Wall
All gifted 2 guards need the ball a lot
but maybe a stationary jump shooter who’s gonna camp out certain spots is better for Wall who knows. I like Rivers game tho, he’s gonna be bigtime
I do like your lineup
I really like Rivers a lot. I would also wonder how he fits with John, but I do like his game.
Davis and Rivers in the draft? That would certainly make sucking during the regular seasons easier to deal with. Last year’s return in exchange for sucking was a tad underwhelming.
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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
You hit a game-winner against Carolina in the Dean Dome...
You automatically demand attention. Rivers has both the bloodlines and the sang-froid to be a very, very good NBA player. I think that because of his outside shooting ability, he would not hamper Wall in the least. He might actually potentiate him.
so you think kobe and rose would make a bad back court?
I disagree. What is important is JW’s off guard can shoot and defend. If he can create his own shot, that is a plus because it takes the pressure off JW.
I think something similar can be said for Durant and Westbrook, and they work out ok.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Kobe and Rose would make a good backcourt
because they are so overwhelmingly good that fit doesn’t matter. Just like the heat are good even though LeBron and Wade aren’t ideal fits with each other. A Wall/Rivers backcourt COULD be good, all I was saying is that they aren’t ideal fit and they would reduce each others on ball abilities because they both need the ball a lot.
I think JW needs to pick his game up a lot more before you worry about crowding players out.
Those all stars we talked about can win games on their own, which is why it doesnt matter. JW can not obviously.
I think we need to address the front court first. But after that, another perimeter guy is needed. And I would grab the best one available. You can not hold roster spots on terrible teams. Having said that, I think Wall is easy team with so long as that guard can make an open shot
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Fit is always important
Unless your team has overwhelming talent, it’s extremely important that players fit well together, regardless of who you’re stars are. This is a really good article on the subject
Yes, and wall fits with people that care about basketball and work to hard improve
which is why half the roster can go
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 5:12 AM EST up reply actions
switch Beal with Rivers
put Cousins at center and add Sullinger at PF.
I like that team.
Lord almighty, I'm sick of this guy's name already
I’d be willing to bet that in two weeks he’ll be back on the end of the bench behind Shumpert and possibly even Davis.
Congrats to him on some good games and despite the above, I do hope he cracks the rotation of a team somewhere. But he does not deserve all this coverage.
by BballBrit on Feb 9, 2012 7:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yeah i'm completely sick of him already.
Hate to say it ‘cause he seems like a great kid….but it was annoying to see so many people show up to VC and chant “MVP” and all that cheering just because he is Asian. I get it and all, but it’s depressing on your homecourt while getting beat by the Knicks bench
you know the first good new chinese player will be overmarketed, dont you
we are indebted to them
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
coaches vote and the short season hurt his chances for sure
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think kyre should be in there this year
But how the hell did Deron Williams make it. Oh and for the record Irving is out indeffinitly due to a concussion
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 9, 2012 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you take away rep and look at actual production, Irving should be picked over
Deron Williams at least. Not sure Joe Johnson is deserving although he does keep his team performing at a high level with Horford out.
I think the guards should have been Rose, Wade, Irving, Iguadala and Lou Williams
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:04 AM EST up reply actions
I'd go Williams
If you look at actual production, they’re basically the same except Dwill out-assists Kyrie bad. Deron’s been tearing it up as of late as well.
That, plus the fact that rookie all-stars are always long shots.
I'm a big believer in trying to get Cousins
for rebounding and his prior seemingly strong relationship with Wall. I don’t think McGee or Young want to be here. Young is from Cali. McGee + Young for Cousins and take back a guard/wing they don’t want, like Garcia?
Oh, it is slightly more than...
…seemingly strong relationship with Wall.
In this last, recent photo, the little guy in front of John and DMC is Packers rookie Randall Cobb. The white guy behind them is unidentified… but hilarious.
Wall loves him some DMC.
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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
Cousins is the best or second best player in that draft class...they are not trading him...especially for our crap
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
So true, so sad
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:08 AM EST up reply actions
Here is my dream team
an insert your own joke at the quality of it.
PG – Wall
SG – B. Beal – compared to Ray Allen, may be availabe mid-round
SF – N. Batum
PF – Sullinger – our lotto pick
C – Cousins – Sacramento brain farts and trades him for McGee + others
Mack, Crawford, Singleton, Booker, Serpahin of the bench
Sullinger/Cousins would own the boards, turning us into a running team. Beal and Batum are shooters. Sullinger can shoot too.
i've always wanted us to get Batum and he seems to be coming into his own this season
guy is like what 22?
Sully scares me, just not an nba athlete
would you trade this years first
For DMC straight up?
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 9, 2012 9:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that is a great question
Because JW and DMC have a unique relationship, I would if JW wanted him here. I would prefer to have traded 2012 lottery and a player/cash/take back back in 2010 when his stock was lower. To me, it was a no brainer.
But I would get JW input on this one because he could have a strong feeling either way. I would not just do it bec we can get a good player regardless.
Cousins would be a good fit with this team. And it probably means that we could keep Booker as a starter. Booker needs to complement an all star center or he is a bench player. Sign a good SG free agent and we are suddenly a good team.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
if we changed offensive philosophy. Sanders jump shooting offense stinks. Go traditional PNR
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
and that was suppose to read trade the 2011 lottery plus whatever else it took not including this years lottery. we knew two years ago this was going to be a stronger draft than last years
by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
everything you just said
I agree with 100% if he and john have such a good relationship and John wants him than I way do it. DMC is a monster and we know what he cam give us every night. The draft is all about maybes… maybe Davis will be good or maybe he wont. But with DMC you know what he’s got already and potientially 20/12 average. That to me is worth a potiental top three pick. And your absolutely right about adding a 2 gaurd, we would be a force If we had that. So as of now I say do it and do it before we’re screwed completely by javalle/ vessely/ a 6th pick. Just one more question, would you add javalle into that deal if it was a dealbreaker?
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 9, 2012 11:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
in a heart beat. he and us need a fresh start
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 5:14 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed but Sacto wouldn't do it I think
Like you said, the draft is full of maybe’s while Cousins has proven to be a very productive NBA stud.
I think it would cost us 2 lottery picks (2012,2013) ánd taking on a bad contract or two.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:13 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t imagine they’d want any of our ‘assets’
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:13 AM EST up reply actions
If their relationship is so great
Why don’t we just wait till Cousins is a free agent and get him then? I know it’s a few years away, but then Cousins has rounded out into form and also we would hopefully have a more settled locker room, which would reduce the impact of Cousins trouble when it arises.
by BballBrit on Feb 10, 2012 3:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cos I just don't see them trading him unless he causes real trouble
by BballBrit on Feb 10, 2012 3:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
no way. his talent is the holy grail that you build a franchise around
that ship has sailed. Sac is a playoff team next year probably.
He went for 19 and 9 with a block and 2 steals beating the Thunder last night. So it was against Perkins and Ibaka which is a good defensive front court.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 5:31 AM EST up reply actions
Bec John might want to join him somewhere else
and the more established he is, the higher the price tag
there are dozens of great guards in the league, there are few great centers:
top tier- howard, bynum
second tier- m gasol
no one else comes to mind, but i could be missing someone
You need a top player in the front and back court in this league to win it all. And it is harder to find the front court all star that can play both ways. You have to do what NYK did and pair a Stoudemare with a Chandler (or Garnett and Perkins), which is twice as expensive. And there are very few Chandlers out there.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 AM EST up reply actions
top tier: Howard
1 tier: Bynum
2 tier: MGasol, Horford, Hibbert
3 tier: Jordan, Perkins, Noah
the rest.
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:16 AM EST up reply actions
Cousins is going to join Bynum in tier 1 very soon
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
your third tier have no offense so they would not make the cut with me. Cousins is a two way player
either way to my point…there are only a couple really good and a couple more worth a shit
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
Howard and Bynum are 2 way players, Cousins is too.
I’d say my 3rd tier’s defense is so good that it sets them apart from the rest dispite lacking offense.
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
yes and that is true. I'd throw chandler in there too
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
yup, forgot about him for a sec.
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
At the end of the day, if you find a true franchise center, you can give up everyone to land him. They are that rare. Every other position is easier to replace/fill
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 5:33 AM EST reply actions
and is the reason Drummond is the pick over Anthony Davis
and Biyombo was the pick at #6 for us last year. It’s like QB in football- the hardest position to fill
Every once in a while you can point to a team that didnt win it with a great center, but it is rare. MJ did it. Lebron is probably the only player in the league that can do it now. Even Kobe needed great centers to win it.
Just go down the list of champs and look up their center. He was probably an all star or damn near it
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 AM EST up reply actions
Unless you are talking about the Jordan-Pippen Chicago Bulls...
and the Heat if they take it this year.
Yes, they are the only ones to ever do it that I know
and that is because LeBron and MJ are all time good. And MJ did not have slouches in the front court
They had rebounders and his centers could hit open shots. They werent offensive vacuums.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
and that is assuming Wade and Lebron can get it done. Look what it takes...three top ten players (two top five), including one at PF
it’s a lot easier to go the top center route IF you get the chance. And we had a chance…
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Another reason we take Drummond over Davis
Because by all accouts Davis is another nothing on offense. And we’ve plenty of those already.
by BballBrit on Feb 10, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Davis isn't a nothing on offense
He has great potential in the pick and roll and pick and pop. he has good ball handling ability and his jumper just needs confidence and repetitions on his jumper. His largest impact will be on defense, of course, but he has plenty of potential on the offensive end.
and he is a PF, right? We need a center if its close between two players
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
yes, Davis is a PF, Drummonds a C
but Davis is the consensus first pick, by far. He’s so far ahead of the pack that all GM’s would take him, no matter who has the pick.
We will see. Drummonds stated he is returning to college next season so might be a moot point
NCAA tourney…where the stars come to shine
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
The Keys to the Palace must be locked out … someone check the tracking number with FedEx and see if they can find them … they were supposed to be delivered yesterday afternoon! How will anyone get into the Verizon Center tonight? Oy!
Booker and Wall get one...a couple passes...and a lot of lock outs
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
McGee and Blatche locked out to Phoenix or something...let's get it movin!
Not sure if this has been posted
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059899-lakers-trade-rumors-kobe-bryant-must-persuade-la-to-get-steve-nash
Anyway, a Portland radio report—relayed by a Phoenix sports-talk radio guy—had the Lakers sending the aforementioned Fisher and Artest to the Washington Wizards, the Wiz unloading Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee on the Suns and the Suns whisking Nash to Hollywood. I suppose Phoenix also would land one of those L.A. draft picks.
by festivusball on Feb 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Is it too much..
to get draft picks as well from all this or PHX would get the majority of em? I’m down with this if we get some draft picks
Blatche and McGee for Fisher en Artest?!! No picks????????????
I’d be fine with it if we get the Suns unprotected first. But not just Hamburger and Piere for Fish and Metta WP
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
why would the suns do this deal? good deal for the lakers
why would we do it? another pg and sf…the two positions we dont need. and one shoots sub 30% from three and the other sub 20%
ok, if we buy out lewis, which i am sure we will, we could use another SF. But Artest at 7mm per season is really not what we are looking for. He might even throw a shit fit and be more disruptive than any player in the league.
Keep trying to trade them. If we cant, AB can come off the bench and lead the second unit. He becomes an overpaid, but not crippling player. We dont have to extend JVM the qualifying offer, in which case he is a UFA and will sign elsewhere. Or we can offer him the QO and not match. Either way, we lose him.
I think the only way you do this deal is if you know you can flip Artest. But I still do not understand why the Suns would do this unless Nash asked out of PHX. And if that happened, I think they can do better then AB and JVM
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think this is from a Lakers source
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Must be a lot of medical marijuana mixed with the smog out there...
Fisher would be a great veteran role model here but we would need both team’s firsts. Plus while the Suns might want to take a risk at rehabilitating Dray, they simply don’t need JaVale with Gortat playing well and Lopez backing him up. Dray and Young they probably would take,
Metta World Peace in Wizzie red white and blue, whoa!
Both Fischer and WP will throw huge fit if this goes down
But that would be a veteran pg to teach Wall sorted, and Singleton would take example from a player whose basically what he’s trying to be. I would definitely do this trade.
But yeah, I want more picks.
by BballBrit on Feb 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If Ted does not plan to extend EG, he should prohibit and transactions at this point. He is less two months out. You can not give him a green light to commit the franchise for years
All kept private between them of course
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Ted can always veto a proposal from EG...
but I think he wants to see what his GM can do before he closes the door on him.
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