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The Wiz have 4 players worth keeping.

If, as stated, 2011-2012 was a season to determine which young pieces were worth keeping before making bigger changes, I think Ted and Ernie have an official answer. In my opinion the Wizards, as constructed, have 4 players officially worth keeping. Going forward, I would like to see the Wiz keep:

  • Wall (obviously)
  • Mack - Looks like a solid backup PG, possible future trade bait.
  • Booker - Not sold he is a starter, but is developing (unlike every other Wiz project since 2000)...should be at least a rotation guy
  • Singleton - Has the tools/skills to be a rotation "3 and D" guy. His shot looks better than %s say, so I will trust that unlike every other Wizards player who needs to develop a J, his will come along.
Of the rest of the young players, I think only Crawford is worth considering keeping. I won't even mention the vets.
  • McGee - will never commit to doing the smaller things necessary to be a franchise center, at least not while in DC. If he ends up in the right situation I could see him becoming a beast, but its not going to be here. $10-12m a year is a toxic, franchise killing contract IMO.
  • Andray - As much shit as he gets, I think Baltche (couldn't help myself) could be a solid 3rd big man on a pretty good team. His extension is exhibit #2 (behind Jan Vesely) of why Grunfeld has to go, but he does have skills. If you forced him to work with a trainer during the entire off-season to prevent his conditioning issues he could be an asset. But I still think I would rather see him amnestied after they buy out Lewis.
  • Nick Young - Might be my least favorite player in the NBA, he just Does Not Get It(tm). His court vision is amazingly bad, and he does not adapt to defensive changes. I think other teams get EXCITED when Nick is hot early, because it means he will become a black hole of shooting through contested double-teams for the duration of the game after the D adjusts. On the occasion his strategy does somewhat work (See: Toronto game this week) he pats himself on the back and says stuff like "The Kobe Effect" as if he thinks of himself as one of the top scorers in the league. Add in things like Twitter campaigns for the 3-pt All Star competition and you have a player who simply exhibits an amazing quantity of attributes that would never be tolerated on a halfway decent team. I bet he gets less than the MLE in the off-season. I still don't want him at that price.
  • Jan Vesely - I am not going to call him a bust, I even like a lot of what he does. But he is the epitome of why Grunfeld needs to be fired. How could you possibly look at that draft, with our roster of zero shooters, and say "Man, we really need a no-skills tweener 7-footer who weighs 200lbs and shot sub 40% from the FT line last year WHILE BEING THE 2nd OR 3rd BEST PLAYER ON HIS TEAM IN EUROPE. He will TOTALLY be ready to contribute at an NBA level before our 2nd year #1 overall PG leaves. I bet his transition alley-oops from Wall will be amazing!!" Not saying he is going to be terrible in the long run, but on a team this raw, you have to spend some of your picks on players able to fit the puzzle and contribute soon in a very specific way...like a Leonard or Thompson.
  • Seraphim - Another super-raw player, an Ernie Grunfeld Special. I see his ceiling as a 4th or 5th big man, so I guess I could see keeping him around, but I don't think you can factor him into any plans of contention.
  • Jordan Chuckford - Not Worth keeping
  • Jordan Crawford - If you can coach the "I think I am MJ" out of him, and pull him every single time he morphs into his alter ego Jordan Chuckford (you know...the one who is a NY level black hole and dribbles around either wildly or in place for no reason) until Chuckford dies, he becomes an asset off the bench as a 2nd team scorer. If only he would use his passing skills and court vision more.
I think the Wiz need to be actively shopping every single player in my second list. Obviously I don't think our young players have much value, but I think Young and McGee in particular could net some late-1st (or similar) assets that could be pooled to net a 2nd Lottery pick this year (my end goal). I guess there isn't really an overall reason for this fanpost other than to put my opinion up here...but there it is. I will probably play with the trade machine to try and put together some reasonable trades. What do you guys think?

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A good stint on the trade machine has me feeling more bleak than ever re: the Wiz chances of fixing this rebuild.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

The problem is this

Blatche has no trade value
Nick doesn’t have much either, he has to agree to lose his birdrights and teams can sign him in 3 months without giving up anything (maybe a 2nd rounder in a sign and trade)
McGee is going to need $10million+ so that hurts his trade value
The young nucleus of Crawford, Vesely, Seraphin isn’t worth much at all. Either bad or knucklehead rep around the league.
Singleton, Mack and Booker are the ones with value but we’d ideally want to keep them.

That leaves Wall. 3 yrs of rebuilding. 1 player. Great fucking job Ernie. Tnx

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

I see it like

PG: Wall – Mack = Pretty good future “Grade A-”…probably as good as Grunfeld could do
SG: ? – Crawford (?) = Up in the air “Grade D”
SF: ? – Singleton = Good depth/No starter “Grade D+”…gets a + for having Singleton fall to 18
PF: ? – Booker – Vesely? = Good depth/No starter “Grade C-”
C: ?? – ?? = Nothing present on roster worth keeping “Grade F”

Not a good foundation to start w/ given the Wiz have won 73 games since the start of 2008.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 9, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the grades, but we have to trade away value to get value

which means that our depth at PF and SF will take a hit. Those are the players others might wan’t.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The Heat btw won 58 games. I believe the Jordan Bulls have the best record ever with 72 wins.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Nick is headed into FA and Javale is an RFA

so neither has much trade value at all, unless we trade Javale to the team and contract of his choosing which seems highly unlikely.

As far as the rest of our “assets” the only ones with value are the ones who play well enough that we’d like to keep them. So if we want something nice, it’s going to take trading Booker not Vesely I am afraid

by DCrez on Feb 9, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

If we want to keep him we have to offer the qualifying offer or we'll lose the right to match offers and he'll be unrestricted

The risk is McGee could just not agree to offersheets of other teams, decline our offer and just sign the QO. This enables him to go anywhere he want’s after next year. Basically what Nick Young did.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

When you break the roster down like that we really don’t have shit besides Wall/Mack. I’m not going to give up on Vesely yet but there we’re some diamonds in the rough that fell into the late teens in the draft. Singleton can hit open shots but doesn’t do much else on offense. Serephin still looks like a rookie.He gets in foul trouble as soon as he steps into the game. Crawford can stay as a 6th man or back up even though he plays like a retard at times. Book has be the only bright spot in these last 5 or 6 games with out Dray. I’m not defending McGee anymore until i see progress so they should just let him leave.

by Jordo on Feb 9, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

How could you possibly look at that draft, with our roster of zero shooters,

and say "Man, we really need a no-skills tweener 7-footer who weighs 200lbs and shot sub 40% from the FT line last year WHILE BEING THE 2nd OR 3rd BEST PLAYER ON HIS TEAM IN EUROPE.

man its like you read my mind…………..

Enduring the pain of wizards basketball....one game at a time

by samoka10 on Feb 9, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Because he has a monster wingspan

and is super raw.
If any of these ever turn out to be anything more than shit, Ernie can say, “See, I told you I could make him good (never mind all the other guys who never panned out)”

by mrmadrew on Feb 9, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

has anyone noticed yet that Ves isnt really that great of an athlete?

he is tall and really long, but dude is not that coordinated, seems to have bad hands, and has yet to make a purely athletic play (like flying in for a dunk over fools).

I mean last night Ves couldnt do shit vs Bill Walker….see ya Ern

by DCrez on Feb 9, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you guys watched Ky's Anthony Davis??

He CAN do all the things you wish Ves could do!!!

by road_warri0r on Feb 10, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

He also looks very unsure of himself. At first I thought he might be decent, but he has absolutely no confidence in his game. Not sure what he was thinking, there were plenty of more NBA-ready players available.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You can teach skills though.

The reason I dont hate JanV long-term is that unlike our other 5 all-athlete-no-IQ members (NY, JC, AB, JVM, KS), he obviously has good “feel” and good court sense…i.e. he has good basketball IQ. A long/tall/skinny tweener can be taught some post moves, add 30lbs of bulk, and be a real 4. But in the transition he will suck. And thats my major gripe, this team didn’t need a “long” project at the 6th pick.

I think a lot of Vesely’s issues revolve around a similar issue Jimmy Wall has: he never needed to do more earlier in his career. Wall (and this is an assumption on my part) probably never needed a jump shot because nobody could keep up with him. At the NBA level he now has to develop it. Vesely lived (watch his Europe tape) on cutting in from the wing and using his size + athleticism to dunk from slashes. With no handle or shot, he will have to be a 4 here, so I am going to wait until he is 2-3 years older, bulkier, and has a few offseasons to add polish before judging his potential.

I just think it was a bad pick

by Maroon and Black on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

he's not an african kid who just started playing basketball in his teens tho

Ves has been a pro for 3yrs (supposedly that was a good reason to draft him so high). There is a real possibility that sub.500 FT% is what he is….the kid is 7’ tall afterall, it’s not exactly uncommon that a 7 footer cant shoot. Or dribble for that matter.

My gripe is I do not believe Ernie realized just how lacking in nba skills that Jan is, which is why Ernie needs to go.

by DCrez on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Maroon, don't forget he presumably was the most NBA ready prospect

He was supposed to be a great athlete, who runs the floor well, finishes at the rim and good basketball IQ. Great motor and 3+ years of professional experience. As a bonus, he won the national title last year.

Thát made him the 6th pick.

I wasn’t buying it, as I have seen him play some and I thought he had a great motor, could some athletic stuff but I thought he flatout lacked the skill and talent to have a impactfull career in the NBA. I was extremely unhappy with this pick at #6. Ernie’s confidence and the reality that he was our rookie now made me more openminded to him without having high expectations. Unfortunately, dispite my low expectations, he managed to dissapoint me.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Banking on upside.

EG wasn’t the only GM in the NBA who had Vesely slated as mid-round lottery talent in this past year’s draft. Sure we need shooters, but aside from PG, we need everything else too. Do you draft a guy like Kawhi Leonard knowing that a guy like Harrison Barnes will probably be available when you pick in 2012?

In two or three years, it’ll be a lot easier to say how the pick measures up against what was available in 2011.

by Vegas010 on Feb 12, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Ves . . .

is 30 games into his rookie season and 21 years old. Maybe you are right that he will never develop beyond what he is, but that would be an exceptionally rare case. Odds are he will get better. It remains to be seen how he measures up against people picked after him in this past year’s draft.

by Vegas010 on Feb 12, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I dot know why

But since last week I have really fallen off the McGee bandwagon. He’s had a stretch where his numbers have been down (not uncommon for any player) but he’s not been doing the little things to help the team. I’m about ready to give up on him.

I still have lots of patience for Singleton (he will be the next Battier, he just needs time), Vesely (rookie- benefit of the doubt) and even Crawford (sophomore slump, + I still remember Nick being exactly the same and he got a lot better).

As for the rest, get rid. Get some people who can play in here. I see the Cavs, still, as our rivals even now both teams have hit the bottom. Kyrie has reasonable quality veterans in Jamison, Verajo and Sessions. What have we got? Mason? Williams? Gimme a break.

by BballBrit on Feb 9, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agree Mcgee is overated

I would not offer long term money to Mcgee under any circumstance. Blocked shots look nice, but a lot of those blocks don’t even turn into Wizards possessions. He doesn’t play great 1 on 1 defense and is really, really bad playing pick and roll defense, which is part of the reason B. Griffin and Deandre Jordan had like 50 dunks against us.

If he has any trade value I’d send him packing even for a late 1st round pick.

by J Korber on Feb 10, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

AB. NY, and JVM need to go, period. Anything we can get from them we should take- even if it is a parking pass or warm water in the visitors locker room. Amazingly, AB made JVM look better than he is.

Vesley sucks. What a waste of a high draft pick. But he will be cheap when his contract expires and is a good back of the bench player to roll out and pester the Nowitzkis of the world.

Wall, Mack, Singleton, Booker- keepers. All will be inexpensive to re-sign except JW.

You can even keep JC if he learns to play within the offense.

OK, so the bench is coming together. We only need starters, beginning with the front court

by les boulez bomber on Feb 9, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Other than writing off Vesely (in 3 years)

This is basically how I feel. I would take lumps of coal to get NY and JVM out of DC. Not hating on them personally, but I don’t feel they prioritize winning to a degree that will work here. If they were on San Antonio (who wouldn’t put up with that shit) I think it might be a different story.

BUT the key thing is a need for a 100% culture change. I will take having to find 4 starters (in year 4 of the Rebuild…womp womp) to have a bench built and the key components of the culture of “swaggy P” gone.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 9, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

the thing is, Swaggy is a better player than Jan is going to be and yes you can tell already.

Nick has at least one elite nba skill, get buckets son. Ves is bringing zilch to the table at the exact time he should be busting through (shitty team desperate for anyone to produce).

I dont know….hopefully Jan is holding back for some reason becaue if this is all he has he stinks sorry to say

by DCrez on Feb 9, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The Mystics just traded Marissa Coleman

maybe Ernie should have seen if they would have taken Crawford straight up

by mrmadrew on Feb 9, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Some Excellent points................

Booker has looked REALLY good recently. Like he has really made some strides and is capable of giving you more than just hustle/garbage buckets. Against the Knicks he was turning and facing the basket and sticking the 15 to 18 foot jump shot. If he can do that he can be a solid starter. Maybe similar to someone like Udonis Haslem in Miami. He is a keeper for sure.

Young and Crawford bring similar capabilities. They’re 2 of the players on the roster capable of creating their own shots and hitting open jumpers. The problem is there’s only room for 1 of them. If we’re rebuilding………….then minutes given to Nick are minutes Crawford isn’t getting to develop. Crawford needs to learn to play better off the ball, improve his shot selection, and become more consistent shooting. We know who Nick is and where his ceiling is. He can score…………..he can knock down open shots…………..hopefully some team making a playoff push is desperate for a scorer and is willing to part with a 2nd rounder for Nick (LA Lakers? LA Clippers? ). Crawford is much better attacking the basket………….he’s younger……….his ceiling is higher right now…………..and he’s way cheaper. So lets move Nick even if it’s for a mid to late 2nd round pick.

Lewis will be gone after this year …………………..and is nothing more than an enormous turd holding this roster back.

Blatche is worth keeping because he is capable of providing scoring……………..and his trade value is probably not that good because we gave him that crappy extension. I hate the idea of keeping Blatche, but I think he just may be imovable unless we amnesty him.

There’s probably room on this roster for Turiaf or Seraphin………..but not both. I’d prefer to keep Turiaf. He’s a much more polished NBA big man capable of contributing now. I have no idea what Seraphin’s contract situation is like, but he looks like he’s years away from being consistently decent. He looks undersized to play the 5 and not athletic enough to play the 4. I have no idea where he fits. I’d love to dump him and keep Turiaf, but I don’t know what the financial impacts are.

Vesley is a project. He HAS to develop some intermediate game from 10 to 15 feet or he’s just a liability. Teams don’t even really have to guard him. There are flashes of really spectacular athleticism………………but it needs to be more than that. He works hard on D (although he fouls too much) and his effort is really high. I will reserve judgement on Vesley until he’s had a few years (like Seraphin already has) to see how much he can improve.

With Nick Young, Lewis, and maybe Mcgee gone next year there will be a lot of breathing room money wise to get some things done. We’ll have some good young players Wall, Booker, Crawford, Singleton, Mack……….1 solid veteran in Turiaf (if he stays)………..and 2 developmental pieces in Seraphin and Vesley (my hope would be that Seraphin is also gone). So there will be room to improve dramatically via FA and the draft.

by J Korber on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

A few things

Dray is the only logical candidate for the amnesty. I mean who else would we use it on?

Also Vesley is a lost cause, they don’t know where they want to play him. They seem very confused about what he is able to do.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Its gonnna take a while

Before anybody knows what (if anything) his NBA role will be. My guess is that it will 100% come down to how much he wants to improve his post game/add bulk…but given that he seems to care a lot, I would bet on him being a decent role player in a 2-3 years.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

think how far Vesely has to go before he is as good as Yi

cant say it’s a lost cause but it’s hard to envision it happening on his rookie contract.

by DCrez on Feb 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

actually i can say it's a lost cause under the current regime.

but perhaps a different staff would have different results

by DCrez on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

If we had a winning culture/management in place then maybe Gilbert never poops in Baltche’s shoe, and NY/AB/JVM/Etc all develop the correct parts of their game and become good cogs in a good team.

Tragically we have fostered the losing culture/immature attitude.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

i cant stand the Cs or the Lakers but it was so refreshing to watch them play last night.

the Cs on defense are so smart….Rondo is really something, if not for rule changes he would be a defensive MVP candidate. I really hope John watches tape of him on defense, his head swivels so much looks like bird the way his eyes dart around the halfcourt set, anticipating everything.

But did he come into the league as a great defensive player or was he a sponge that just soaked up a Championship atmosphere and great coaching? You watch our guys over the years and they don’t progress towards that heady level of play.

by DCrez on Feb 10, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Rondo came into the league with great defensive potential

Rondo’s hands are way bigger than those of a normal male his size and he also has a redicoulous wingspan. He is a pretty good athlete and his latteral quickness was there too.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It would take a lot of changes for that to happen within this organization.

I don’t see it happening. What decent NBA player have we actually developed recently? Why would it be different now?

by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 10, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

This team is 5 and 21....soon to be 5 and 22

I’m not saying they’ll be competing for a championship next year, but there is room to improve.

One of the biggest problems is carrying the $22 million Rashard Lewis contract, for 2 reasons:

1) He makes more $$ than almost the entire rest of the team combined..

2) He is a complete non-performer. He doesn’t even shoot well anymore and takes 50% of the nights off due to sore knees

That contract is a weight/anvil preventing the team from doing a lot of things. That contract will be gone next year so there will be a great deal of salary cap flexibility to target “contributing” free agents. Nick Young is also gone for sure and that frees up another $3.5 million………………Mo Evans is probably gone…..there’s $1.3 million………who knows what happens to Mcgee. If Mcgee is gone there’s another $2.5 million.

That is a lot of $$ to work with to plug some holes via Free Agency and the draft. So I’m suggesting there is an opportunity for some addition by subtraction. After some of the dead wood/weight is cleared out we have flexibility to get some quality players in free agency and we will be picking high in the draft again this year.

by J Korber on Feb 10, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're a good FA and you are going to have good offers, why would you sign with the Wizards?

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Just thinking out loud..............

- Perhaps because Washington makes a slightly more enticing offer. I’m not suggesting the team grossly overpay for a player but maybe we offer 1 more year……………….or the same number of years and slightly more money to get the guy we’re targeting. Slightly overpaying but getting “your guy” is fine as long as they perform as you intended. Again…..I’m not suggesting a Jayson Werth situation

- Because DC is still a significantly better destination as a city than several NBA venues. OKC is real sexy now because they’re good………….but one day Westbrook and Durant will be gone and it will be OKC and no one will want to go play there. I can think of numerous other less appealing locations to potentially call home than DC

- Because maybe they can be sold on the “we’re just a few pieces from turning the corner and we see you as a big part of that” mantra

by J Korber on Feb 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The bigger issue

Is that this FA class kind of blows except for the very top, and restricted FAs (like Gordon) who will almost certainly be matched on.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking that myself :) !

There really aren’t many really attractive free agent prospects out there anyway :)

Perhaps we can acquire another draft pick or two.

by J Korber on Feb 11, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Good post!

I’ve been saying this for forever. I’d like to here what you think could be some possible trades we can make

by smoores on Feb 10, 2012 8:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Wall and McGee can't play together

Beyond that, we can’t conclude anything about any of our players.

Bench JaVale. When Dray comes back from injury, put him at C. His shot is too broken to spread the floor effectively at PF from 20 feet, but maybe he can spread the floor at C from 16 feet.

Run PnR with Wall and our assortment of PFs. Booker shows some promise already, but better spacing might make them all look a lot better.

See what happens, then evaluate their offensive potential based on the results.

Not sure how to evaluate their potential at the defensive end of the court. Maybe when Turiaf comes back?

by yop32 on Feb 10, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with a lot of what you are saying . . .

— especially on Wall and Booker. As far as points of disagreement:

1. At this point it’s all about developing talent anyways, so the fact that Singleton is more developed than Vesely or Seraphin now doesn’t mean much. What matters most is where these guys are in two or three years — and that’s anyone’s guess.

2. Shelvin Mack is OK for where the Wizards are now. But, he’s probably the easiest guy to replace at this point. There are players like him available in every draft in the mid-to-late 1st round, and there are usually even better options available every year in free agency.

The bottom line is that this team has a ton of holes to fill. What’s frustrating is that it’s not really clear that we are much closer to where we need to be this year than we were at the end of last season.

by Vegas010 on Feb 12, 2012 2:50 AM EST reply actions  

I think it is clearer

I think it is clearer about who is NOT apart of a future of this team.

1. This team should be less dependent on Jordan Crawford to be the 6th man on this team. It would help to get someone that can be a more reliable scorer off the bench. Someone that can play the 3 would be preferable. He’s not the answer.

2. Getting a PF to replace Blatche (amnesty him) is a much with the lottery pick. He is what we thought he was. No more chances.

3. Getting SG to replace Nick Young will good. I have serious doubts that he will return and I think we need someone that is at least better than Crawford (which isn’t saying much). We just need someone that can score and that play next to Wall who won’t cost $9+ mil.

4. Bench needs to be completely redone. At this point Wall, Booker, McGee (maybe, depends on how he progresses during the season) could start, but who would be on the bench? I don’t see anyone left on this roster making this bench a solid bench.

All of these things have been made clear this year as opposed to last year.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 12, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly agree.

1. It’s good to have a back-up who can play multiple positions. Whether its a combo guard or a SG/SF depends on what the Wizards do in the future. If they draft a guy like Harrison Barnes, and you have a guy like Singleton already on the roster, and a guy like Booker who can fill-in at SF, then you don’t have as much of a need for a SG/SF, but it might be nice to have someone other than Shelvin Mack who can play both guard positions. I agree that Jordan Crawford is not the answer.

2. Blatche will get chances once he returns, simply based on the fact that he’s still under contract. Unless the Wizards trade him, or he becomes a disruptive presence, he isn’t going anywhere until the off-season. But I agree he’s a strong candidate for the amnesty provision this off-season.

3. If a SG is as good as Ray Allen in his prime, I could easily see paying him much more than $9 mill (e.g. not only a great shooter, but a guy who can do a lot of other things well). I could still see resigning Nick Young if he’s a second or third option. I agree though that he’s not worth a commitment of $9 million a year. I suspect that’s probably how the organization is seeing things right now as well.

That still leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Aside from Wall and Booker, I’m not sure we have gotten many answers. Even McGee is a big question mark. Tonight he was great — he was efficient, and had a big impact on both ends of the floor. Still, what kind of investment should the Wizards be willing to make in him? Will he even want to stay? If so, at what price?

by Vegas010 on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we have to wait and see with McGee

They said that he has had treatment for his asthma and that is the reason why he has played better lately. I would want to see how long this continues first. But based on what I see so far, I’m not too sure about keeping him. It’s tough because there are better big men out there, but how would you get them?

by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 14, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Really that sold on Singleton?

He started off strong but he’s really faded over the past couple weeks. I’m liking what I’m seeing out of Vesely and Booker recently and Singleton has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle. Vesely and Booker will probably never be the kind of starters we need but I’d keep them around as backups/roleplayers or as trade pieces. Seraphin has one good game but really he’s still lost out there. He’s probably got to go. Blatche/Lewis need to leave ASAP. Young is probably gone based on his QO signing this past year. Crawford is a hopeless gunner who can fill it up on occasion.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 13, 2012 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

I agree about Singleton

He is not as much of a sure thing as we thought.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 14, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I need to amend this list to say:

1) If JVM’s asthma is really the cause of him disappearing both for stretches of games and stretches of seasons, AND they have in fact found the right medicine to solve that, AND he continues any sort of play like he has this week now that it is fixed (although some of that may be Jimmy finally looking for JVM down low more)….you have to keep him. Even if he is a bonehead. He absolutely tried to get better during the lockout (I believe the only Wiz player who did so…or at least the only one it worked for), and he is entering what should be a 5-6 year prime. If that PnR game keeps going on Offense and he keeps setting better screens, I 100% change my mind on him.

2) I think I have given up on Chuckford. He needs to be on a 4-shots a game then we pull you out program or something so he starts using his court vision more. Maybe if he developed some good habits he would use his whole skillset instead of just looking to shoot it 95% of the time he gets the ball.

3) I still like Singleton. He is obviously in a mega-funk, and something does seem to be up with the chemistry on the team w/ regards to him, but he is so big and athletic, and when he isn’t doing 360* spins to the hoop his shot does LOOK good, even though it doesn’t seem to drop haha.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

I dont understand all the Nick hate. Without him we are winless. He doesn't try to make plays for others, thats why he doesnt get assists.

he also doesn’t pound the rock into the ground, so him not being a creator doesn’t matter. He understands his role.

by tw10 on Feb 17, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

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