New York Knicks vs. Washington Wizards: Regular Season Game 26 Open Thread
by Sean Fagan on Feb 8, 2012 6:25 PM EST
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| 2011/12 NBA Regular Season | ||
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| 2-4 | 0-7 | |
| February 8, 2012 |
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| Verizon Center |
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| 7 PM | ||
| CSN | ||
| Starters: | ||
| Jeremy Lin |
PG | John Wall |
| Landry Fields |
SG | Nick Young |
| Bill Walker | SF | Chris Singleton |
| Jared Jeffries | PF | Trevor Booker |
| Tyson Chandler |
C | JaVale McGee |
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PREGAME READING: Posting and Toasting | SB Nation D.C. | |
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- It has been a bad spate of games for JaVale McGee. He went through the same slump last year at exactly the same time. Tonight, he has a chance to get on track with only Tyson Chandler standing in front of him.
- I hope John Wall takes all this Jeremy Lin hype personally.
- Will we see more efficient P&R between Booker and Wall?
- Is Roger Mason poised for a revenge game?
- Rashard Lewis won't play again in this game. Randy Wittman said he will stick with the same starting lineup.
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feeling good about this one
big game for booker.
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Beat the Knicks, Let's See Some Wizardry
Score early and often. Play some defense, too.
To be or not to be
I remember Jeremy Lin lighting John Wall up in preseason a couple years ago
Hope John remembers that, too.
not a lot of Clyde love out there eh?
Don’t like posting and toasting? Dishing and swishing? Movin and groovin? Penetrating and devastating? Linning and winning?
Hey that sounded like Mike Prada asking Randy Whitman a question
Ended up on CSN pre-game…
Cool…
Mike – that WAS you, right?
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
I asked him two questions about Jeremy Lin
If the CSN pregame video was Wittman talking about Jeremy Lin, then it was my question.
less turnovers
Same effort and more assist than as against raptors and we could have our first streak of the year. Les go wiz
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 6:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lets go
Great pre-game notes. JaVale needs to prove that he can play well against top tier centers and tonight is a great opportunity against a weak New york team. Much easier for JaVale to refine his focus
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And no
I dont hope this is a great revenge game for Roger Mason becuase that would mean he isn’t a DNP tonight. Just being honest but if he does play and drops 12+ I won’t complain
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Seriously all this Lin hype is driving me crazy
Nothing more annoying than NY Knicks fans freaking out
I'm really hoping Wall does his best to put an end to all this nonsense
His comments about PGs going off on him after the Raptors game at least lets everyone know he’s aware.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
judging from crowd reaction, Lin is most popular player in building
Man I hope John ruins him!
by DCrez on Feb 8, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's just getting lucky
he’ll be forgotten after this season much like Sundiata Gaines
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
Our starting 5
Actually looks better than theirs tonight.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions
i mean
Tim Tebow is the white Jeremy Lin
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Javale McGee is the bad Tyson Chandler
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Caron Butler move by Book
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
John Wall just now
“Cmon wake up damn it!”
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Let's see how funny it is in an hour :D
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Booker with the sweet mid range J!!
Tyson Chandler “Hell naw”
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And now JaVale with one!
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I heard "wake up damnit"
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That's the only damn pass Wall knows how to make on a break
I blame him too. Have to set your guys up not to fail. Especially 3 on 1.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's seriously louder for the knicks
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
welcome to a wizards game
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wall bringing Lin back down to Earth
Nice AND1
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
McGee heading to half court, even though he has to inbound lol
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gotta get your hands that Nick!!
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
rather finish it
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
He has 8 points already.
Javale is hurting his value in the games that matter lately. Against Jordan he really had a no show too
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
He was a no show against the Amir Johnson/Toronto pu pu platter
he value is steadily decreasing
The artist formerly known as ledellforlife.
As much as we criticize McGee
Lin just freaked out when he approached the paint
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Too bad we play legit NBA players more often than Jeremy Lin's
Guys that understand there is a pass underneath more often than not, rather than freaking out and chucking it at the hoop.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nick the with the blooper...
we average at least one per game
Nick Young with more assists + rebounds than points...
First time this year?
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
He has mediocre hands, it's also why he isn't a good rebounder maybe
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nice PnR with Wall and Booker there...
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Then Javale too
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Rotational player my ass
Booker is beastin!!!!!!
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Been saying that for ages
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Booker keeps hitting that mid range jump shot...
And he’ll make people start noticing him….
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Its nice to see a Wizard
play himself and then cement himself into a starting role
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I think he just enjoys playing his ass off on the court
And working on his game the rest of the time.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Singleton hitting 3s too??
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Dont hook shot over Novak, power JaVale!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Don't short arm that jumper John...
Follow through
Follow through
Follow through
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Don't we wish it was that easy...
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Lol talk about scraping stats together
Highest 2 pt FG percentage for second year players. I knew Booker was good. he’s 3rd!
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why does Chandler seem so annoyed by our whole team?
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wtf the mobile app is killing me
I’m not even hitting reply. I give up.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 7:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Wizards playing excellent defense so far...
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Not really
Knicks missing many open 3s. But good enough defense
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I thought most of those - a Wizard had a hand in the face...
I remember Bill Walker hitting an open 3
And Bibby missing an open 3
But I think the rest were contested..
And considering New York is only 1-8 on threes – let em keep shooting
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
to be fair to McGee...
He does have 7 rebounds, and a blocked shot already
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
That's more because New York is missing a bunch
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
There is so much balance in this starting lineup
When Booker is playing this well offensively and Singleton is hitting the open shot
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Lips to lips hahaha
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 8, 2012 7:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Time for the Manbearpig
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 8, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money!
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nicks gotta get in front of chandler
everyone rotated except him
Tyson Chandler out
Time to blow this thing open!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
NY is fielding a really sorry team now haha
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wall has kobe's leadership
Written all over him
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 8, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So you're saying it might NOT be the stellar Wizards defense?
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Good defense that quarter...
Knicks shooting under 22%
Jeremy Lin 0-3 zero points…2 assists
John Wall 2-4, five points…. 3 assists
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Knicks have not 1 player who can create right now
No excuse for giving up open 3s, force them off the line
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
i think Shumpert can create for himself
he did it earlier
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
Thats true
But he’ very inefficient, I’d let him do whatever he does
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Mo money!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Haha, here we go
Jan Vesely vs. Jared jeffries lol
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our bigs have some of the worst hands
im including ves even though he isnt a big, but his hands remind me of Yi’s
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
Welp, that poor NY line up just outplayed our team full of young 'assets'
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
i see you've learned to use the word "welp" Dutch
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
heh, the BF educational community
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
we're competitive when the other team's star(s) are out
if we could sign a big-time free agent (or two) we’d have something to watch
there should be a law
against being that smart and being a great athlete. i hate him.
Crawford trying to do it to em!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Wall with a nice crossover, midrange combo
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Wall folllowed through on that last shot
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Wizards random career night special: Steve Novak
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their is always one
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
*there
wow, im spelling like how the wizards are playing
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
John Wall with a double hesitation move
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
yeah he is
how he manages to turn a good thing into a bad thing i dont know
by young, loud and Scotty on Feb 8, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Dont force it JaVale
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Unbelievable
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Vintage D'Antoni offense
I miss EJ
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 8, 2012 7:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jeremy Lin is a pure point guard- what a clinic
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
8 assist, great plays... a clinic indeed
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
win with lin? is that you ball with wall?
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What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
You guys think we make the playoffs if...
Jamison, Butler, and Gil came back tomorrow???
there is some truth to that...but he chooses to have a selfish mentality. they dont run plays for chandler and he gets his. not many centers have plays run for them any more
but i agree we should because he should have an unguardable sky hook by now
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
he averages about one kickout per game
unbelievable
beginning to think i'm done waiting on McGee
he has so little feel for the game. that doesn’t really improve as much as other physical skills can
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions
so...
could Kentucky beat this team?
by ZonkerBL on Feb 8, 2012 8:00 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Irrelevant
But I honestly think they could
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Lin is simply picking this defense apart
Looking like Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers out there
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
It's almost like Flip is coaching again..
by HailEarlBorgans on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
hes lost in his own way again doesn't see the obvious
we were up 8 he waits until they come back to call timeout and keeps mack in when he obviously had two turnovers as soon as he came in. He sits wall when he’s hot i don’t understand.
Where is our center?
And Singleton needs the bench
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Wow, Ves really sucked
Learn how not to foul, son.
by ZonkerBL on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Mike- I know you like the Gary Payton analogy for Wall. But he really reminds me more like D Wade than anyone else. I know his shot isnt there. But they have a lot in common:
fiery competitiveness, similar size/build, both strong off the dribble but neither can really run point, transition offense, good rebounders for their positions, stronger than average assists, defense, etc
…think about it
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah...and he was further developed out of college
but thats whose game he reminds me most right now. it will be fun to see what he develops into
but he needs to learn from Lin tonight. Nothing Lin does is fast, but he is constantly changing speeds.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
but reg wall and wade...they both have a toughness that i think most reminds me of each other
wall can get nasty when he is being ultra competitive…hard fouls on rose, etc
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
He also reminds me of Wade all the time though
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wall does
Sorry
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The Knicks really commit to their picks and screens
it would be nice if the Wizards did the same
The artist formerly known as ledellforlife.
no but he is the best player on the floor tonight if your goal is to win the game
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
meh, he got a lot of cheap assists from the Wizards leaving shooters completely open
that one bounce pass was beautiful, though
that's not "cheap"
That’s just called taking what the defense gives you.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
what the (terrible) defense gives you
is my point. He made the right passes, but it’s not anything that 20+ NBA point guards couldn’t do.
it's something that we can't manage to do apparently.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
my point is
the kid knows how to make the right plays. Whether they are “cheap” or not. We can’t seem to be making ANY real plays. Just hero ball.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Great players make the game look easy
We dont know if Lin will be great. But this is what it looks like early….they get discredited because it all looks easy for them
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
lin
good move by the knicks… from wiki..
After receiving no athletic scholarship offers out of high school and being undrafted out of college, the Harvard University graduate reached a partially guaranteed contract deal with his hometown Golden State Warriors.
Five total assists for the Wizards in the first half
we’re not winning anything tonight if that continues.
Tyson Chandler just QBs the hell out of the Knicks
if really says something in that he can direct traffic in a D’Antoni system.
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its ok
Booker T :) is a starter and playing well again. We got this one
Go Wizards
by ag3ntzero on Feb 8, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that DC team is not bad...
oh i’m watching ESPN…
check ESPN
every thread it seems people are discussing other games that people are DVR’ing. It should really be a site rule.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 8, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
So don't ruin it for other people.
If you wanna know the score use the internet that you are currently on.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
now I think about it...
probably why we are playing on NBA tv since everyone will be watching college basketball tonight…
Wasn't trying to be rude
Sorry if thats how I came off. It’s just the last 2 threads I have been on people bring up scores of college games and someone has said they are DVR’ing it. I’m West Coast so I have to tape all those games. Should really be a site rule.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Wizards have more roster talent tonight
Knicks are playing simple basketball. I prefer the latter
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
he should model his whole game after chandler and add kareems jump hook. thats all he needs to make it to the hall of fame...yet so far away
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
He should model his offensive game for sure
He’ll never be like Chandler on D though. Totally different mentalities.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Wall and the Wiz getting killed on how Lin and the Knicks play Basketball
while the Wiz are a bunch of low IQ me first players
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
pg at a number 1
lin is a good example of why you don’t want to pick a pg as your #1. not a knock on wall, but pg’s can be found. big guys, not so much….
come on, it's been a game and a half
also, I submit derrick rose as a counterexample
good points
but there’s a reason few pg are # 1’s
and Irving
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
i think you take the best player no matter what position
when you’re that high in the lottery like we were. GOOD point guards aren’t a dime a dozen as you are suggesting.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
There's plenty of good ones
the great ones are smart ones.
by DCPerspective on Feb 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree with your disagreement
I think we should trade John Wall now. His lack of outside touch disturbs me. Yea, Rondo made it work but he’s much more capable with his passing. The problem with waiting on John Wall’s “potential” is that if he becomes a bust or just “average”, everyone else will know by that point and we can’t get anything good for him (ala Blatche).
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
lol please
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Dude is a Knicks fan trolling...
I’m just ignoring him
by AFM on Feb 8, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Look at my post history
99% of my posts have been here. I am a Wizard’s fan. I’m simply far from sold on John Wall.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
Assuming you were the same person as “Win with Lin”
by AFM on Feb 8, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I am
I made the account yesterday for the lulz.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ha! I called it!
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
you don't trade wall if you have any long term hopes beyond mediocrity
He could be so so. He also could be a 10 time all-star. You don’t trade that kind of potential in his 2nd year for some random junk.
I'm not saying random junk
You could try for some draft picks, that could also turn into a 10 time all-star. It just seems to me you have to try acknowledge these things quickly. The fact is a PG has a big impact on a team’s culture. NY was scrub team a week ago, now they have a true PG and they look like a team you expect to win games. Knicks should be worst team in the league right now after losing their two BEST players, but once you throw out all your big names and entitlements, you can see the value of a real PG.
Look at Minnesota, they were as bad as us last year. Only big change they made was in acquiring Rubio and bam, they’re above .500.
All I’m saying is why isn’t John Wall having this effect? Other PGs have salvaged crappy teams to be at least medicore. Wall isn’t even sniffing mediocrity.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Look at Minnesota, they were as bad as us last year. Only big change they made was in acquiring Rubio and bam, they’re above .500.
They added one of the NBA’s best coaches, J.J. Barea and the No. 2 pick in the draft.
I'll give you the coach
But Barea has been mostly absent. And their draft pick isn’t high impact, he’s just been a role player more than anything.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
The Wolves are 5-5 when Barea plays
And just at a quick glance at Williams’ past 5 games, he has games where he’s getting 20 minutes and games where he gets 6 and 10. Yes they both have an impact on the team BUT it is clear Rubio has biggest impact out of anyone. The streets would riot if Rubio only got 6 minutes in a game.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
They also already have an above average PF
added the No. 2 and have a more developed bench.
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Wall is very talented but he does not make his team mates better right now
You need to trade him for something really really good though because he has a lot of value. And chances are the other team is not trading their comparable player, if they really are comparable
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not true
He doesn’t have the team mates that can execute to his skill level
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Huh? It's true. And why an inferior NYK team is going to win tonight
Wall is primarily an iso player. Take out his transition baskets and he has an average impact on the half court offense
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think I'd trade Wall for draft picks
At least a draft pick has hope. Honestly, I don’t know any GOOD player with GOOD upside we could get for Wall.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
depends on the draft pick
I would trade him for a top five pick in this years crop if all those guys declare
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
but generally speaking, i am not too inclined to trade him
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yea my limit would be top 5 as well
Because 6 and beyond is real iffy territory.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
And i disagree with your disagreement
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He's already above average
So I’m not worried about him being “just average”. Or a bust.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
what was the last team to win a championship whose pg was the best player on the team?
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Pistons maybe
But I understand your point
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maybe ...but the pistons were an anomoly. they werent the best team that year. but they did win it.
and i think that ben wallace was their best player to be honest. he had the biggest impact on their games
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Im thinking magic and the lakers thirty years ago...am i missing anything?
there is no scarcity value to the pg position which is why the position is over rated.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
you can't get all historical about
rose/westbrook/wall style points. There are very very few physical parallels.
I am not sure what that means. Nobody was like magic. He could play and defend all five positions on the court.
Lebron James is the closest comparison to magic.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Magic was in his way even more of a freak
and was, needless to say, the best player on several championship teams.
His height made him a different player, though.
Yes...but he played the PG position
and my point was that very few championships are won with the PG being the best player on the team. There is no scarcity value to the position. You need a great player on a hard to fill position or an all time great at any position
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think I'm articulating this well
but my point is that the game isn’t the same.
Some of this is the players becoming freakishly athletic, and some of it is the hand checking rules, but I don’t think that kind of historical analogy works well for the position.
I dont get your point because the top player on championships teams today are not PGs. It's been true historically and in todays modern era
I understand the concept of not comparing different periods of ball. But if the conclusion is the same today as it was fifty years ago…it supports the strength of my argument, not weakens it
The top player on a NBA championship team is rarely a PG today, yesterday, 100 years ago, and all time in between
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
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Where Steve Novak outscoring John Wall happens.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
At least one of your lousy draft picks
has to be a diamond in the rough, like Jeremy.
by ZonkerBL on Feb 8, 2012 8:21 PM EST via Android app reply actions
or you have to stumble across
someone undrafted. Robert Pack wasn’t drafted.
by ZonkerBL on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
LOL There goes that theory
Not that Ernie would EVER draft an IQ oriented, refined, Ivy league type player anyway…
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ah, i remember those hands.
thanks for the memories Jared.
by ZonkerBL on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well not really...Jeremy Lin lit up the summer league two years ago and was still a free agent all last summer
the problem is that too many gms undervalue people who just know how to play the game and knock them for athleticism. even though there is a star in the league consistently that “shouldnt be there”
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Singleton you scrub!
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gotta finish at the rim
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Ice cold from outside
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How is NY still 11th in FT shooting?
Seems like he misses at least 1 per game
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Greg Anthony killing the Wizards as usually at halftime, called us
an “embarrassing” team
And we aren't?
What he was saying is there is no reason for the Wiz to be losing at home in this situation
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Thank you Bill Walker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same type foul that got Wall amped in the Toronto game
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chump foul
And he had the nerve to complain
by rgc19 on Feb 8, 2012 8:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So what DOES it take for the Referees to call
a Flagrant 1 ?
Walker grabbed Wall around the head and neck area…. Not going for the ball… Not making a basketball defensive move… but purely and simply grabbing the player around the head….
How is that NOT a Flagrant?
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You have to fall to the ground and stay there for a little bit
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clearly a flagrant
Flagrant 2 I think
by rgc19 on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you cant wear a Wizards jersey
to get those calls
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Hey now
Let’s be happy we’re getting whistles against the Knicks.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Never seen Book this aggresive every time he gets the ball.
9 attempts tonight.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wow
Bench Mo Evans.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That was
Lin-sane.
Sorry. I had to.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wall said the team needs to learn to not need motivation to win
But I think when he gets fouled like that (like last game), he gets into it and everyone else gets hype as well.
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if singleton were my dog
I would hit him with my newspaper for that shot
What would you do to Nick Young then?
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Wall toying with Lin there lol
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We turn so many opportunties for good things to happen
into shitty plays.
good first Q
turrible 2nd Q, better but iffy 3rd Q. wall doing work
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Nick has to pass that back after the re-post
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Clean block JaVale, good defense
Wall got lost on that pick and roll
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Nick has to learn that he is not getting paid 3.5 to dribble
like ever
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Grown, ass, man
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THIS IS JOHN WALL'S HOUSE!!!!
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Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
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WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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eat it lin
Get the fuck outta here
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Replay shows that Wall was fouled TWICE on that slam
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
wall gets the shaft from the refs
probably because he goes so fast that he always looks out of control
or that he could use the dream shake so effectively
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meanwhile nick young having a dog of a game
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:37 PM EST reply actions
Booker and Singleton were fouled lol
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all these stupid f-ing fouls
are crushing their chances man
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions
Wizards fans now back into it and challenging Knicks fans in attendance.
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haha atleast we have fans there
I thought we could get our 2nd road win of the year
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is self-inflicted, not lack of talent
this team is the least savvy group i have ever seen.
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions
Young is too loosey-goosey with the ball
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Seems like Singleton is playing lackidasically out there
where is the concentration?
Oh shit! Book with the spin cycle!!!!!!
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refs put there whistles away when Wall drives
by ccrun1800 on Feb 8, 2012 8:41 PM EST via Android app reply actions
i think Book has what it takes to be a starting PF
not just here but anywhere in the Association. Plays smart, within himself and goes hard every night
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John just got beat there
No way that should happen
by rgc19 on Feb 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
C'mon Nick, give us somthing
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Maybe we try Roger Mason at the 2 for a minute
Or insert Mack or Crawford
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who would he guard?
cant keep up with Shumpert and too small for Walker
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That's why the Knicks are in the penalty already
17 Personal Fouls on Wiz
10 on the Knicks
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why do they get every call
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that last drive looked very, very easy
give me more
lol
Mike Breen doing MSG broadcast “Boy, Nick Young sure does shoot a lot”. Guess the ESPN/ABC crew doesn’t do many Wizards games.
hahaha of course
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Finally Crawford checks back in
Need some scoring from the back court and Young is struggling
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Mo didnt even go for the offensive rebound?
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uhh, help at the rim?
but shame on Wall for getting beat that badly
THats embarrassing
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What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
ref waited until he fell to call that foul
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Jeremy Lin
“This my city! This is my city!!”
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the fouling.... THE FOULING!
it has to stop.
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions
yeah
but a lot of it is stupid, occasionally lazy defensive positioning
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
is that good thing?
I hope he doesn’t play hero ball
thats what I meant by not working...
he is taking it as though this is a competition between him an Lin…
Lin may get invited to the rookie sophomore game if this keeps up
Call the goddamn foul refs!
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woooo harvard
Man I know its rare to see a Chinese player but his fan club is worse than the omri casspi fan club
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 8:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Again refs, you can't be serious
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how the F is that even possible!!
God damnit Wall.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Buck
The officials were just not going to call a foul at the end of the quarter….
He might as well have said they wouldn’t call a foul on New York for the entire quarter.
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wall's taking this thing with lin personally
he’s playing well, but trying to show-up lin is not smart basketball
goddammit the hero isolation play doesn't EVER work with wall
since he can’t step back and shoot the three. god i hate this team sometimes
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Lin knows how to run the pick and roll he keeps his dribble alive probes the defense slow then speeds up and passes it to the big
maybe one day wall will figure it out and keep his dribble alive and probe the defense
New York with 9 more made Free Throws than the Wizards
New York up by 9
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some bs calls
but some really stupid fouls by the wiz to start the quarter and put NY in the penalty
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah you are right...
But still, Some fouls that should have been called on NY were not made…too
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Wall can't do it himself and Booker has chipped in
Sooo………..Nick young, Crawford, Singleton?
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bad night for crawford and young
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Lin putting on a clinic
Classic example of smarts and skills making up for being physically/athletically average.
com'm vesely
still waiting to see my one jumper. times running short!
Here we go....
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boooooo
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions
Is that attempt at showing us up going to fire up the team, no probably not
we’ll just put our tail between our legs.
They do on us
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he has no ball skills
But Hes is a good cutter
by rgc19 on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Please Witt put a big man back in
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Put in
Wall, Young, Booker, Sinlgeton and McGee until they pass out
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Can we blow this team up?
Literally start over again.smh
Can see any way we win this one tonight
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It seems like the Knicks have realized that we suck balls and are just
going to attack the rim.
yeah it really is clear that those guys are all we have
and they’re still pretty raw in some ways
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
i think vesely stoned or something
wandering around in a daze
crawford can actually pass
when he wants to. why don’t they run those plays with vesely the way the knicks run those rolls for chandler? It’s not like Chandler can shoot.
to see the knicks play
Hahaha Steve
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 9:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Rebounding, ugh
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aaaaand no rim defense
I miss mcgee. but I hate mcgee. basketball is confusing.
I understand what you say
Sometimes I even ask: is Blatche ready to come back.
Great feed Wall to Mason!
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Mo Evans is really just taking up space
not rotating…losing rebounds the are supposed to be his….he is not helping…
Wall apparently doesn't get fouled on the way to the rim
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starting to get pissed about this
it’s like when shaq used to get bs offensive fouls because his ass was unfairly muscular
Yep its just like that
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Where's JaVale?
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how does wall not get that call
by ccrun1800 on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The Knicks try to set each other up on offense for something easy.
We go one on one. These guys have rocks for brains.
That's what NBA teams are suppose to do
but something we haven’t been able to yet.
MO JUST LET HIM DUNK!
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wtf? sorry for the caps
But damn man
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mo evans cant get up
i hate this coach too
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions
This is on Wittman.
Where the FUCK is JaVale? We have no rim protection at all? A small guard lineup with Tyson in the middle is going to kill us every time. OMG.
let's get real
all Tyson would have to do is pump fake McGee out of his shoes and get open.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
JVM has been in foul trouble since the first quarter
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Now he's almost gone
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Knicks just smiling having a good time at our expense
I hate to see that, especially being at home
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When the Wiz play like this
it’s hard to imagine that there are 3 teams worse than them.
any coach would look clueless
with this roster.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Wittman is in over his head.
After you see that going small isn’t working, you don’t stick with it and hope for the best. You have to adapt and try something else. Am starting to think that terrible coaching may be our biggest problem.
by bigmikeemike09 on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Man this is some of the worst pick and roll defense i've ever seen
maybe mgee would be doing better, but im not sure.
If we had Landry Fields...
Better yet, if Nick Young would just OCCASIONALLY play like Landry Fields(great cutter, rebounder, passer) we’d be golden.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
When he leaves its addition by subtraction
And if we draft a top 5 SG, its the icing on the cake
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it sucks
in some ways nick is more talented, as is our whole roster compared to NY (not including melo/amare) but they have no savvy or feel for the game. that’s on ernie for getting guys like that
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I have doubt about our team is more talented.
Not when we only have Wall getting into the Rising Star game.
nick, javale, andray,
if they knew how to play i think those guys are more ‘talented’ than guys on this knicks team. but it does do a damn bit of good.
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by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well I say Melo
They were doing this when Amare was there before the Melo trade
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Maybe without Anthony
And his D’Antoni-green light. But Amare can make them better. Remember before the trade last year? Different team but Amare was still playing great.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Bets on Nick Young deciding to heat up now?
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Knicks basically P&R'ed us to death
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
I said it 2 hours ago and I say it again
Lin > Wall
Tonight definitely
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Lol
Just because the Wiz D sucks, doesn’t make Lin better than Wall. Wall would be slicing and dicing this Wiz D.
by bigmikeemike09 on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think we'd be winning about 40% of our games
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I know that's just an arbitrary number
but still, facts are we have a small sample size of Lin being successful vs. a large sample of Wall failing.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Did wall just have the best game of his season against him?
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, you mean the game his team lost by 16?
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
You think we lost because of Wall?
Because that’s what you’re insinuating. And that’s the only way you could say Wall failed tonight.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not saying Wall's bad
I’m just saying he’s not a franchise player or the type of player many teams want or need. Wall drove on Lin, exposed his defense a bit, but he’s obviously not making his teammates better.
Lin is CLEARLY making his team better.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Lin didn't make Novak hit 5 threes
Or make Fields cut to the hoop.
Lin could not make Singleton, Crawford, Young a quality jumpshooter or literally make his teammates move without the ball and cut to the basket.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And you said there's a large sample size if him failing.
The only way I can see someone rationalizing that statement is if you blame him for our losing. Which I can’t bring myself to do.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He might be
The New York roster is a bunch of scrubs. The Wizards have more talent on paper than what New York had tonight.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Lin has played in three games and scored 20+ in all three. Most importantly, they won all three
He makes his team mates better.
I love wall but give the guy some credit
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
He plays in a defined system with a coach that's been there for 3 years.
He plays with role players that know their roles and play defense. He has an incredible center in his prime that sets amazing picks that put people in great situations. He has players that can make open jumpers that open up lanes.
The vague argument “he makes his teammates better” is full of holes and is cliche.
You don't think
The argument “Wall just needs better players” is not filled with just as money holes and cliches?
Knicks are without their two BEST players. Why are they winning MORE?
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Same reason Denver is winning more since they traded Melo...
by AFM on Feb 8, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
That is a very fair point
I acknowledge Carmelo is kind of a virus to a team, I noticed that trend too with Denver.
But riddle me this, Knicks were suckage without Amare, then they started playing decently. So why do Knicks lose Amare and still look competent?
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Because they played against the Wizards
and NJ, who is last in the league in defensive efficiency….
by AFM on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
I don’t want to anoint Lin a god, I’m just saying Lin led his team to a 3 game winning streak, why can’t Wall?
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
LIN won that game clearly. Everything he did offensively was within the context of the offense
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't bring the point up to just throw away what Lin did,
but Chandler definitely quarterbacks that team defensively well. Who on that team is a defensive stopper? We scored what? 85 points tonight?
I thought we played well tonight
We are not a good scoring team. We block a lot of shots, get turnovers and score a lot of points in transition. Force us to play half court offense, and we are bad.
I think it is the knicks protected the ball and that accounted for ten less points.
chandler is important to your point. but we dont score a lot of points in the paint on set offensive plays so i dont feel he was as impactful as you suggested.
he did have 25 points, which is A LOT for him. and a lot of that was do to Lin, especially with hockey assists
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
noooo
Don’t give Chandler that credit. Chandler is definitely a vital part of it but Lin is running that team.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
So Jeremy Lin is the Knicks best player, you think?
I’m trying to find your point there?
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well
He might be lol. He was the past 3 games at least.
by Ball with Wall on Feb 8, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well when all is said and done
Id still take Wall.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Call it what you want
He controlled the game, the tempo, ran the offense, made the right passes, recorded a double-double and walked out with a win
If John Wall were better, this team would be better, bottom line.
John Wall was the better player, but J Lin was the better point guard. And that’s why they won.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
he would be
but the Knicks are actually playing defense
by hambonejackson on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
whats the foul count this game?
Because they get one everytime they say “ohh”
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh god, Friday...............
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
knicks must love lin
passes the ball and can give them investment advice to boot
lin looks good but his D isnt there. Not that it matters to fans or media hype machine.
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST reply actions
he's also the single reason why we lost this game
if we could at least slow him down on the pick and roll, we’d have a win.
at least he tries on D
and his fingerprints are all over this victory, unlike tim tebow.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
really?
wall has 29 on him and 1 turnover.
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
the points are not the same. but i am done trying to point it out.
you keep watching wall put up thirty and the team lose. and keep blaming everyone else
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
dude plays no D.
i was pointing out that he got 29 put on him to a guy who is saying atleast he is trying on D.
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
can't win when crawford and young
don’t make a fair amount of the bad shots they take. that’s not going to cut it
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST reply actions
His swag is on level 99 tonight
So the shades are appropriate. rec’d
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Knicks playing easy, simple basketball
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
?
Defense can’t be deduced to one player. Don’t blame Wall for the lack of a defensive rotation. This is just terrible defense.
by bigmikeemike09 on Feb 8, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think Lin is just that much of a better PG
PG not player, big difference
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
This is true
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
i dont understand how all these people can call out Wall for his D when Lin was worse on D.
baffling. Nobody shows up in the paint for Wall. Everyone shows up in the paint to help LIn and Wall still managed to outscore him. Yet the argument for Walls D being so sad is lin penetrating………….. TO AN EMPTY LANE.
Classic example is the dunk. Lin’s dunk will be all over sportscenter and everyones facebook page. Because the pick and roll left booker and wall out of position and TWO wizards didnt collapse to a wide open lane.
Wall crosses dude up and takes it to the rim with both LIN and Chandler in the lane and dunks it. But somehow Wall’s D is garbage and Lin is “better than Steve NAsh”. I cant believe i read that tonite.
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Wall's Defense was not the problem. Lin controls the ball very well. He is good.
and yes, the wiz have horrible defense as a team obviously. but that is not all on wall for sure. he is one of the better defenders we have
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Part of being a good player
is knowing when to take good shots. Wall’s dunk was impressive, but Lin picked apart the wizards on offense with brutal efficiency. Mostly in the half court too.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, addition by subtraction
Nick Young, check
JaVale McGee, check
Crawford, well he’s just having a bad night and is cheap so i’ll pass
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Crawford has been playing well the previous few games.
So I agree with you.
You mean the last 4 games
where he’s shot 36% from the field?
That is playing well?
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
IQ and hustle doesn't get the basketball in the hoop
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Neither does Nick Young tonight
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
The Wizards lack shooters...
Crawford is a dismal shooter
Nick Young is playing for his next team
Wall can’t shoot
Booker can’t shoot
Vesely can’t shoot
Singleton can’t shoot
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
WALL shot well tonight
Shooting teams dont win. You need to be able to create easy buckets. And that is what the Knicks did in spades tonight and why they blew us out
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
He is shooting the 3 balls better
min 26.5
FG% 0.364
3FG% 0.412
FT% 0.800
Assists 3.0
Points 13.8
I am not saying he is our saver, but he is reasonable well coming off the bench and he actually plays well beyond stats. It’s only his second year and he can improve.
just having a bad night
Shooting 48% TSP for the Season… I’d say that’s longer than just one night
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
he makes plays even now and then tho
which is nice from ur 2 guard
by KurisuDevil on Feb 8, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Crawford has had some very good games
And is probably our best shot creator on the team.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
by qthaballa on Feb 8, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's really sad
if true. Given that the wiz are supposed to have a future star who’s a “pass-first” point guard.
by TunedMassDamper on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Passing first to people who can't shoot? That's not going to win games either.
by Craig_ on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well he isn't
A pass-first point guard. If he reaches his potential he’s going to be Derrick Rose, not Chris Paul. Wall doesn’t have court vision. It seems really obvious to me, but people here keep on saying he’s a “pass-first” point guard.
by TunedMassDamper on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
John Wall is a D Wade type 2 guard trapped in the PG position
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
he is not a PG at all quite frankly
If you watched the game, you saw the difference
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks are better without Melo.
The Ball actually moves, and Lin runs the offense very efficiently. If they can mesh this with, Melo and Amare’s scoring they could have something special.
fuck the knicks a
and all there dumbass fans and those damn Lin fans
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Knicks are just smarter. They really utilize head fakes to get what they want.
Do our coaches teach our guys anything? Or does nothing sink in with these guys.
Why can't the wizards
Run the pick and roll? Either with McGee or Vesely? Are they really that incompetent?
It's amazing.
I wonder if there’s a stat for illegal screens. If there is they probably lead the league.
by bigmikeemike09 on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Has someone asked Wittman about that?
In some of those partizan highlights, he took and made threes. Is it just spacing since they’re making him play the 4? Or is it nerves.
by TunedMassDamper on Feb 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
he doesn't seem to want to shoot at all
his form looks good in the rare event when he does shoot one
They teached him to shoot diffrent form
at the start of the season. I don’t think he is going to hit much with it though untill he has offseason to get comfortable with it.
by vmr on Feb 9, 2012 6:39 AM EST up reply actions
Nick may be a better shooter than Craw
but Craw knows how to basketball better
by KurisuDevil on Feb 8, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
we are so bad it blows my mind
keep booker
keep wall
trade everyone else
can we trade vesely before other teams realize he is horrible?
yes but that is not from the rookie wall
the rookie was is a decrease in performance from playing an 82 game versus 35 game schedule. we are too early in the season for that.
but you are right something happened
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
i official hate everything about new york everything
They’re pizza is what ruined blatche too
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lin got the better of Wall. Not even close, imho.
Got to the rim whenever he wanted.
I know but Lin was beating Wall off the dribble...easily.
I guess he’s quicker than we thought or John’s lateral movement is as bad some people say it is.
Lin is not fast at anything but he is constantly changing speeds
slow to med to slow…
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
He got past wall on pick and rolls, and of course our bigs didn't help
He did reject a screen one time and get past Wall, but Wall was getting screened repeatedly and had no help on the screen. He never really broke Wall down or blew past him, without the help of a high screen.
He does and he is.
With Wall’s athleticism, he would be unguardable if he figures everything out and develops a reliable jumper. Verdict’s out.
we didnt see much of that tonight.
i saw two open kickouts from wall, both to roger mason. all of youngs shots came off the dribble, i dont think he found singleton on the perimeter once. Every other time wall came off the screen he was looking to score, and most of the time he did. unfortunatly it didnt help any of his teammates get into a rhythm.
im not saying i would rather have lin, but the question was regarding whether wall outplayed lin. thats not true.
by Alpha_Snail on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely did not. Lin ran an offense, Wall ran to the rim.
by ronoD nagrO on Feb 8, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Best way to explain it
Wall did his thing tonight though and is playing with different types of players
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Don't blame Wall
for everyone else’s terribleness.
by bigmikeemike09 on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not blaming Wall, he played well. We just don't run any
semblance of a professional offense.
Very true...
I wish we could run the high PnR effectively, with good screens for once. But of course everything looks bad when it doesn’t work, maybe our offense would look better. Bottom line is that Crawford and Young went 5-21, we CANT win when our best shooter and our 3rd leading scorer play that terribly. It’s not Wall’s fault and all this LIn hype is getting annoying. And i feel like everyone automatically assumes that he is some genius basketball player just because he went to Harvard. He’s a good player no doubt, but I wan’t to see him excel after a bigger sample size before I crown his ass.
I honestly don’t think that this team is conducive to winning. Look at Kyrie Irving and the Cavs, the Cavs are actually a decent team, and were able to win without Irving and the backup, Sessions, scored 24 points and 7 assists. Irving is a special player too, but his team and the surroundings are way better than the Wizards and are a huge factor in his development and success. Wall is doing what he can, and I don’t know how others say that he can’t be a point guard, or a good passer when he averaged 8 assists last year and 7 this year with a terrible shooting team.
Lin had a great game
His team will win, so they get the last laugh.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 8, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
wall played well
he didn’t outplay lin. too many crazy drives. he didn’t run the offense like lin did, although he didn’t have novak and chandler on his side either. he had young and mcgee. so it’s hard to say
more proof that we are simply one of the 3 worst teams in basketball
time to start hoping to the ping pong ball diety…not much more to hope for…
I am sure Ted will tell us how nice the crowd was tonight…
Maybe the Wizards can trade Young to the Clippers for a draft pick
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
that would make some sense
except his knucklehead rep probably precludes it
Yeah that occurred to me when I heard about Billups
But what are the odds Young actually approves a trade? Or that he Clips would even want him…
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by returnofswagger on Feb 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well he's from LA and would probably love to play for the clippers
not sure if they would want him TBH
by AFM on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Wow,,,Rook did you just say that
or have you resigned yourself to the fact he is leaving any ways
by les boulez bomber on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Awful.
No white jerseys at the rim when the ball goes up on either end. No ball movement on offense. 1-on-1 ball like 95% of our games this year. Javale has got to go. He doesn’t show up when we need him the most. Wall and Booker carried everyone else on their backs tonight.
Again, when we needed a back up PG
we chose Mustafa Shakur….somehow this kid was left to sit around the D-League…
as much as I like Shelvin Mack…it could be nice to have him as a back up….
i like how all the harvard grads show up and buy courtside seats to see Lin
id love to see an alternate universe. Where rich black guys show up with signs and the hype machine to see a black hockey player.
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions
trade JaVale
He looks like a clown out there. Totally clueless.
by satchmore on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
he did look especially clown-ish tonight
and over the past few games. I wouldnt commit to this guy at all…
There's plenty of room on that wagon now.
McGee is a backup, imho.
McGee has a low IQ
Basketball-wise and in general.
by TunedMassDamper on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Houston game really showed me something
Been off since. Sounds like we’re all AAA members quitting alcohol
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Oh yeah
Carmelo Anthony and Amare didnt play tonight
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
I thought it might've been an easier game.
ISO plays are easier to defend. Those players are phenomenal though. So easy is not really easy.
Amen
Will pay dividends right away. I want Jeremy Lamb to be drafted obviously but if we get that #1 if Anthony Davis all the way. He is the type of player that makes everyone else better and the defense and rebounding will at least go up immediately
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Here's a hypothetical: What do you do when you are trying to rebuild, but you've gone about it totally wrong
Do you keep with it, hoping for “development”? Or do you start over, cut your losses?
We’re like a chef trying to create a savory exotic dish, but we’ve got the wrong ingredients. Just bacon bits and apple jacks….
they need to clean house
and start-over the start-over
frankly I agree
They need to admit they messed up and start over. Probably the hardest thing in the world to do… especially for an owner.
Ted needs to come out and say “We messed it up, drafted the wrong players, made the wrong moves. We’ll try to fix this. This team clearly can not play together.”
Instead he’ll say “The rebuild is working! Give it a few years! Trust me, it worked for the Caps!”
by AFM on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
is every team better without Carmelo?
by baltimorebullets80 on Feb 8, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions
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