Toronto Raptors Vs. Washington Wizards: Regular Season Game 25 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 PM EST
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| 2011/12 NBA Regular Season | ||
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| 8-17 | 4-20 | |
| February 6, 2012 |
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| Verizon Center |
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| Starters: | ||
| Jose Calderon |
PG | John Wall |
| Jerryd Bayless | SG | Nick Young |
| DeMar DeRozan | SF | Chris Singleton |
| James Johnson | PF | Trevor Booker |
| Amir Johnson | C | JaVale McGee |
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PREGAME READING: Meet the Raptors (old) | Raptors HQ | |
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Pregame notes (constantly refreshing)
- UPDATE: Rashard Lewis won't play with a sore knee. Chris Singleton will start.
- After hinting at possibly getting more veterans involved after the loss to the Clippers, Randy Wittman was asked if there would be any lineup changes. He said no, but clarified that "maybe different rotations, things of that nature" would happen.
- Wittman reiterated that the Wizards' inability to rebound was the main thing that bugged him. "Shooting comes and goes, but rebounding is constant," he said.
- Speaking on that subject, Wittman admitted that one of the problems with JaVale McGee's rebounding is that he goes for blocks that he shouldn't. "You don't want to take his aggression away, because he is a good shot blocker, but he can't be coming over and jumping over other defenders and missing shot blocks, so now his guy is tipping in the offensive rebound."
- I asked Wittman how Ronny Turiaf was doing. "He's got a doctor's appointment coming up in the next day or two with a specialist, and I think we'll have a better feel of how much longer he'll need."
- An astute question was asked about what Wittman and the Wizards can do when there are so few veterans on the court to help calm the young players' down. "I hope [the young players] lean on me a little bit," he said. "I talk to John [Wall] and Shelvin [Mack] -- our quarterbacks out there -- in dead-ball situations, free-throw situations. They're coming over and I'm trying to give them an idea of, 'Hey, they're doing this, so we have to look for that.' I can do that without having to call a timeout and look for everything ... I've got to continue to do a better job of that." Wittman then said he hopes that the young players eventually pick up those things on their own.
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three straight days here at verizon for wiz caps and wiz....
I shudder at Jeremy Lin killing us Wednesday but we will worry about this then.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 6:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
also this is yet another game where i go to by myself...
No one loves Toronto. Oh Canada we stand on God for thee!
Going to these games show the test of true red wiz fans!
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i just want to see us running plays threw the half court
More specifically wall. He has to start running the plays. Even if it means his scoring goes down a bit but without a half court offense theyre pretty much relying on luck to score. Common john break out this slump.
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that is to our disadvantage.
We need to shoot it within 12 seconds but the ball is stagnant in all of our half court sets
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully no one trolls John Wall tonight
and bashes him and demands we trade him like a crazy person lol
Poor game or not, can we please not scream for him to be traded
by KurisuDevil on Feb 6, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It was supposed to be 3-5 weeks
that was announced about a week ago I think
Would like to see John try and change speeds
Throughout the game like CP3 mentioned and how Gil used to do it
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i already had dinner...
but I can use a drink.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mike
You sit right above my section. I’m not there tonight, but usually we are in 104, row T.
by HailEarlBorgans on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
love this startimg lkneup
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i guess it is on nba tv canada or tsn?
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nice start by the Wizards...
Wall showing a lot of energy guarding Calderon… really bothering him…
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Jell won't let us lose tonight
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Im just excited because
This is the starting lineup I think we all want to see more or less.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Hahah i love that Wall didnt take crap from Gray
I love it under the right circumstance, and i thought this was acceptable for him to do that. I dont think thats gonna endear him to to the refs….but i love the swag/attitude
WOW!!!!!!!!!! Should have been a clean block
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Booker from Young..
I swear Booker sets GREAT screens, and for some reason, Young finds him rolling to the bucket…. Happens more with Young/Booker than anyone else (with Young)
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
How many times did you mention Young just now?
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As many times as I mentioned Booker
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
nice dunk by book
And wall is now a guard version of McGee…..
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Book'em Dano!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They stole my schtick! Damn Canadians
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how are the 2d baseboards treating you now?
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We at home fool lol
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Im having visions of him being able to hit that consistently
Would be huge
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gosh mcgee has
Been looking pathetic these last few games
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Tamale!!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
JIMMY WALL ladies and gents
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 7:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wizards playing very good defense so far...
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Nick Half assin it...
4-7 from the field, 1 assist, 1 steal – good defense…. but half assin
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Just think what he could do whole assin'
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Ak47-esque
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wish he didn't try to pass out to Young after the offensive board
Jan was in position to turn and shoot
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
john needs to be deadly with the pull up
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
John knocking down the Jimmy
Wizards not playing any games tonight
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nice
been a while since i’ve seen a quarter like that. bookers dunk was pretty sick
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 7:37 PM EST reply actions
why was mo Evans helping from the weak side
On a last sec drive? I never understood why the guy in the corner is open on those plays?
by DavidDunn on Feb 6, 2012 7:38 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Does anyone listen to the commentary on 106.7??
Dave Johnson and Glenn Consor??? They’re pretty good
Oh and John Wall and NIck Young going HAM tonight.!!!
Mo Evans doing his thing
Should have been getting more tick the last few games
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Per usual
But Seraphin bobbling passes and not being ready for them off the drive also
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
booker is our best player
i really hope (and am beginning to think) that he can be much more than really good reserve
Our guards have combined for 27points already
Major factor
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Booker got raked across the arm
that’s why he threw it out of bounds… Referees missed the foul
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Props when props are due
Mcgee’s screens have been MUCH better so far also
by KurisuDevil on Feb 6, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
McGee again with the slip pick
Set the pick right and it avoids the easy double team!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Booker is a steal machine tonight
by DavidDunn on Feb 6, 2012 7:52 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
it may be just me
But it doesn’t feel like we are winning by that much.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
booker is just having a good day on o today.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 7:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wall 2 McGee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its been a while
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common craw dont force anything
Let the game come to yoi
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 7:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yeah i understand the layup
Just want to slow it up a little on the forced pass
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 8:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Newjamarcus
Yes, but very encouraging game so far from just about all the young players
Jamal Crawford and Billups have had a few I think
Wonder if anyone knows
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Tamale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Yung sushi in the building
love Wall going up and getting him pumped after the shot
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions
The Raps actually have a good team--of backups.
Maybe if the Wizards and Raptors merged into one team they could play .500 ball. Maybe.
I'm bored so I'm going to make a quick depth chart--
PG- (1)Wall, (2)Calderon, (3)Bayless/Mack/Barbosa
SG- (1)NY, (2)DeMar, (3)Barbosa/Crawford
SF—(1)DeMar, (2)Sigleton, (3)Klieza/James Johnson/Rasual Butler
PF- (1)Balogna, (2)Amir/Ed Davis, (3)James Johnson/Dray/Booker
C- (1)JaVale/Ed Davis, (2)Aaron Gray, (3)Seraphin/Magloire
So yeah…I’d say that team win maybe 41-45 games?
Random but Booker could've been a great tight end
Crazy fast and quick for his size and would have good size for a tight end too….
Tamale!!!!!!!!!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
These guys are pretty good
2 of my favorites
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Youngsters playing with confidence right now
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I love me some John and some Nick!
Toronto announcers are talking about how the Wizards have showed up to play despite a back to back and practice on Sunday. Nice.
Reminds me of the Maryland Terrapin connection
We once had for some reason
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bad call
if I’m a ref, that would have to be blatant. Booker avoided him
Follow me on Twitter: @adamvolo
If i was a ref i'd call it on Book just b/c its a obvious no foul situation
and he clipped him just enough to make me think he needs to learn the lesson and pay the price
Please dont get this started
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
he’s been great today though. Hitting tough shots. Bailing out the offense when the shot clock is down.
by DCSportsAllDay on Feb 6, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We all know what he is. At least he knows what he can do and plays within himself.
He also makes the least bonehead plays. Some bad shots? Yes, but he can hit most of the shots he takes. I dont remember the last time I’ve seen him try to dunk from the free throw line
Gents...
I came in late and went to NBA.com for a box score. All + in the +/- ?
What’s going on here ?
I liked seeing Evans on the court
I know, taking minutes from the young guys, but I don’t care at this point.
I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.
Follow @Dylan___V
by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 8:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
vets need to be effective while on the court.
And he is effective. No prob with him there.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Commentator just said reason for Calderon with one assist
is that Wall got into him and defended the pick and roll high. I’ve been beating that drum for a while now glad to hear it’s finally happening.
Huge 3 by Singleton
Because I believe all of the 3s he hit are huge
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McGee..........no words for what I just saw
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the only high iq move he made
Was take his rightful spot on the leather chair
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that move cost him 5 million over a four year deal.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
as it very well should
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 8:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
McGee playing clown basketball
but don’t worry, he’s improving!
there's that phantom call
and i like it
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 6, 2012 8:30 PM EST reply actions
Young made that much harder by not taking the open 3
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Meanwhile, UCONN is getting blown out by 20
at Louisville over on ESPN. Lousiville?
If the Wizards draft either of these Connecticut players before the 2nd round it will be a waste.
.
"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
getting Lamb in the second round would be AWESOME
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 6, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
That would be fine.
Now UConn is down by 30.
30.
.
"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
did you guys see Javale running down
The court after the between the legs dribble? Or was that not shown on tv…
by DavidDunn on Feb 6, 2012 8:36 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
The entire crowd and team had to tell him to get back
That was hilarious and sad at the same time.
by DavidDunn on Feb 6, 2012 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
times like this I start to think we've been holding Wall to a ridiculous standard
dude can ball.
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 6, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
he's hot tonight
and it is infusing his overall game with confidence
Tamale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
ok guard kleiza please
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions
Wow after Deandre Jordan and the clippers bigs dominated us
Dwight Howard has 27 points 9 boards in the middle of the third quarter… And is dominating their bigs… Wow
i do not blame him too much
But dwight is a beast. Jordan is just above avg.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
john is making me so happy
what a difference a j makes
Young
nice pass to Booker. Nice to see Nick trying to make plays.
I'm telling you
Young and Booker have a “thing” – they work well together…
I’d bet that the greatest majority of Young’s assists are to Booker
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
who wants to take bets that mcgee will not come back to the game tonight?
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
what happened to him? haven't had a chance to watch the game
by FTT on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Arguably the most JaVale thing ever
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I stepped out - and missed it apparently....
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
it probably wasn't on tv
But fans were laughing. If dray did that there could have been a riot.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true. if dray did that we would say he quit on us.
With JaVale, his head wasn’t in the right place.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
He ran back
Thinking he was supposed to be leaking out on offense, after the Raptors got an offensive rebound and the Wizards were actually still on D
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 6, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
wasn't it the other way around
He thought the raptors got the defensive rebound and sprinted back on defense but we actually had the offensive rebound
Also he was getting schooled by
Jamaal Magloire in the first half.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 6, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
he was forced to go between his legs in the most adept way you'll ever see a 7 footer hanlde the ball
ever! but then missed layup, ran down court on defense not realizing wiz got the off reb
hilarious really!
Can't believe people were saying
They wouldn’t care if Booker was traded. He’s our best player
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The first time I'm hearing this
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i think the point was if you can package him in a trade for something,
he shouldn’t be considered untouchable. he’s just not that kind of talent
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't agree with the idea
I think it’s important to keep your homegrown guys. Especially when he plays the way he does
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i agree
I never wanted to trade him. Him and wall should be the untouchables
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We keep missing Mo Evans all alone in the left corner
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Imagine if our starting 5 was
Wall, Young, Kawhi, Booker, and McGee… and does anyone else think that Jan could’ve fallen to the 18 pickand we could’ve gotten him there?? but that starting 5 would be sick.. okay maybe not sick but mediocre… Thats good enough for me at this point.
kawhi's really good...
…not entirely disagreeing with you — it’s not like the team would be objectively good with him instead of Vesely, but so far it looks like a pretty bad judgment by the Wiz
Looks like Ernie made his pick
based on mock drafts
LOL Mo
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 8:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's against site rules to ask for illegal streaming sites that show NBA games
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
So if someone asks how to watch the games online..
We should tell them the only legal way they can do it…
NBA League Pass
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Draft
Dont forget we will be in lottery for 2012 & 2013… so dont forget to look for young ones eligible in 13
Toronto with a little run there at the end to cut the lead to 10
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
are we really going to have a tight game
This is closer than it should be. They aren’t having a good game and still in it
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
they made just enough 3's to keep it close
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
okay javale is back.
I guess wittman understood that he tried to get back on d.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
good lord the wiz foul more than any team
i’ve ever seen
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions
they'll be shooting FTs
all freaking quarter. come on.
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions
Wow some terrible calls happening right now...
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
dont fuck with me refs
You know its bad when all 9000 people at vc are mad
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
well like wittman said we hqve no ref respect...
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
0 nada not one bit
Of respect from the refs… but the raps do?
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
bad line-up
basically begging crawford to gun
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions
One reason why I think Wall's shot will improve is because his free throws have improved a lot
He’s a pretty good free throw shooter and is shooting 78.6%, and a career 77%… whereas Rondo shoots 62% for his career and 58% this year… So his shot isn’t terrible, I think it’ll come along
silly
there’s no interior D with this lineup. They’re penetrating at will, and doing whatever they want
wow
even i can admit that that was a horrible call on Bayless. It’s what happens when Ronny Garretson leads the crew…
Shelvin Mack will be a starter in this league. The Lakers should give us two first round picks (for them, which is pretty high) or a pick and a vet
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions
2 first round picks? Really?
He’s a decent player, but if he ever becomes a starter he will become an easily replaceable one.
There is loads of talent at PG every year in the draft it seems like now...
Why wouldn’t the Lakers just trade up for a guy like Marquis Teague? 2 first round picks for SHELVIN MACK? He’s not even worth ONE…
I think you are mistaken bec he will be a starter in this league.
But you are right about every year good point guards come out. I dont know Teague, but the Lakers need help now. Their window is closing. Kobe does not have many years left like this one for sure.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Learn to read, I said if he becomes a starter(meaning he CAN BE), he will be easily replaceable.
Just look at the Raptors. Bayless is a better player than Mack is and probably ever will be…right now he is a backup.
lol no worries but thanks for clarifying
I understand your point. My point is he makes his team mates better. There are a lot of good point guards, better skilled than Mack even, but a lot of them dont noticeably make their team better.
For that reason, he will be a starter. Maybe he bounces around like your point would imply. But because he makes his team mates noticeably better, he will be starting on most teams that would roster him.
He really should get some burn running the point with Wall at the 2. JW can get a layup or near layup nearly everytime when he has an open lane, which Mack could help create
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
The Laker picks are around 27 or so. So two of those bec he is def worth more than one #27 pick
Sounds like a lot but they pick really low. Or a player. He could help them a lot though. He makes everyone better. JW does sometimes, and when he does, they are playing really well.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
He gets 11 minutes a game on this god awful team. His competetion off the bench is Jordan Crawford.
If he was as good as you are making him out to be he would be getting more time.
You really do not believe minutes are passed out on this team from on-court performance
I think you are taking me too literally. The Lakers draft near 27. Mack is better than a straight up trade for #27. So the Lakers would have to throw something to sweeten the offer and who cares about the 54th pick.
Maybe a more realistic scenario would be straight up for D Character. Or a multi player deal taking back some combination of picks and players. But what I am saying is he is good enough to help the Lakers today. And he is worth more than just their first round pick.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
If he was good enough to be traded for 2 firsts he would be playing more.
And no, I dont think he’s good enough for the 27th. JC was picked there just 2 years ago. Before that guys like DeMarre Carrol,Darrel Arthur(who would be a starter for us), Aaron Afflalo, Klieza, Perkins, John Salmons, Sammy D….ehhh maybe its just a lucky draft spot, but I still dont think he’s worth a late 1st.
no worries...we will know in a few years =)
But if the draft were held today, he should go before #6 Jan Vesly lol
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
no doubt about it
Mac will definitely be a starter one day. EG does it again with the second round gem.
by ccrun1800 on Feb 6, 2012 9:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Been thinkin that for a few days
We won’t be able to keep him. He’s to good to play on the bench. Hopefully we package him with other assets to get a core piece
Nice bucket JaVale
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
last few games especially
hopes he keeps it up
McGee still looks sooo awkward making his moves in ther post
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 6, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Well, considering this is his FIRST year with that hook shot...
He’s not doing too bad with it…..
Just think how automatic it will be in three years!!!
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
seriously, though...
what’s happened to javale in the last 6-8 games? I was genuinely happy with his progress this season, but everything has regressed recently
Eh, I was the biggest Blatche fan and I said stuff like that about him all the time back in the day.
I’ve lost faith in this team and orginization. We need some new players around John.
JaVale is a joke.
Don't count your baskets
until the chicken crosses the road…
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Jeremy Lin
He has 13 points, 8 assists and 2 steals for the Knicks. Man, talk about a cinderella story.
no one wanted him so he ended up at harvard bec of his grades, etc. then was the unexpected star of the summer league in JW first year. No one still wanted him, he was traded twice and now getting his first start
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Undrafted Harvard grad
First Asian-American in the league in awhile. Also taught John Wall a few things during summer league a few years back when the Mavs picked him up for their summer league roster. Last year he was signed by his hometown team the Warriors, but was buried on the bench behind Ellis and Curry. This year picked up by the Rockets, then the Knicks off waivers when they needed some help at PG.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 6, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
don't bother - troll
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
by Rook6980 on Feb 6, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
bad team defense
great on-ball defense. Better than half of this team can say…
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 6, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
half agree
always bad at off-ball. sometimes good at on-ball, but not consistently. huge lapses
disagree completely
so does bayless. nothing about NY’s Defense is great. its tolerable at best
Nights like this indicate this team has a major mental block...either desire or discipline
bec they can play pretty well when they want
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Wall needs to close this
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Come on Singleton, give us something!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
defense there by Seraphin on that last Bayless 3
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
When we were up 18 I still had a bad feeling
Playing the raptors always gives me that queezy feeling
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 9:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mike Ruffin for you too huh?
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
I still got love for him though
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 9:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You think they'll retire his jersey?
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope they do
And hang it as high as he threw the ball up on that one play, right in the same spot
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
E.T.!
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 9:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah - put the double team right in NIck's face
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
speaking about lin
Of my three fantasy teams one league I am in last place when Gerald Henderson al horford and manu were all on my team. Had to get him in today. Couldn’t hurt.
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They gotta stop sending McGee to set the picks...
Send Booker…
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Another night, another career high of some sort
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Nick should have gotten the ball back to Wall
I hate that shot.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
lmfao's song is on
We’re losers and we know it
by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 9:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?!
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wiz Guards don't pass well enough
to beat a simple double team at the top of the key. that’s sad. still, credit Raps D for cranking it up. A
No way.....
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
"the no not possible game"
Hahaha I love steve
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 9:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
NOT POSSIBLE
Toronto announcers are talking about the Mo Pete shot…
liking a close game late acutally,...
see how they respond
One of those unspoken NBA rules
You’re allowed to run around the court all you want as long as you’re trying to call time.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Trevor Booker is an amazing athlete
he would have been an incredible tight end.
Please Wizards, guard the 3 pt line
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x2
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I've been thinking all second half
This has been a superstar kind of night for Wall.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wall needs to will this team to victory
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Now it's Bayless' turn to complain
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
We're the Wizards
Shit happens.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
JC never shies away from crunchtime
For better or worse
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Since when do they let live chickens in the audience?
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
There's always one of them at every game
with her embarrassed husband/boyfriend in complete shame next to her.
Hahaha
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 9:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vesely needs to play the part of Ruffin this game
OT seems unavoidable
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Two awful calls
Crawford came nowhere close to fouling Bayless.
Wall probably committed an offensive foul on Bayless.
for the love
Gaurd clieza
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We can't guard the 3.
Just saying. It’s unfortunate. Been that way forever… no matter who is on this team.
john time?
Please tell me its John time… someone tell me its john time
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 9:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jordan crawford iso
Fearless
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 9:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
John Wall for the win....
DAGGER !!!
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Your time to shine Wittman
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
why not let wall take it
Nick never hits the dagger… never ever
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 9:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well that's not true
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ok but very very very rarely
I remember maybe one gw seriously
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 9:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well how many do Washington Wizards actually get to take?
He’s your best bet in those situations.
I still want the ball in the hand of the future of the team though.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nick young will never be able to hit a gw for us
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 9:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I want John Wall with the ball there
What the hell…
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:41 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm no NY fan...
…but that wasn’t really his fault. Not much of a play, time runing out
he had plenty of time
he just made a bad 1 on 1 move, didnt get seperation. If he pumped, it was all over
But still
He got blocked. On the game winner. Make a play.
If you ask him he’s our best scorer.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'd have preferred a Wall pick and roll
Or even isolation, he’s been on tonight and feeling it.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
That was John Wall's bucket and man is Whittman gonna get barraged if we dont win this game
even if we do, thats gonna be question number 1
i want wall at top of key..
no pick. he either goes to the hole or foul line pull up.
Why practice skiing when you live in Africa?
by wync on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In case you plan on moving
Aka winning.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That's my PG
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 9:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
BOOKER T CAN YOU DIG IT?!!!!
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 9:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yep
Not too late to get the win though. One step at a time with this team….
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Feb 6, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. Sadly Toronto is missing their best player so its hard to be too encouraged.
Luckily one of our top two players is in next years draft.
Good sequence of blocks
hope they don’t get used to Raptorball…the only way these guys are going to win games is by becoming a more defensive-minded team.
stream is down
not in the dc area and the stream just went out. bad timing. then again, do i really want to see how this ends? it never turns out well….
he really wasnt ina position too
but u can argue its his fault he wasnt in the position to do so in the first place
Yep they teach you as a kid to put a body on someone. JaVale never had to do that being taller than anyone else.
Didnt help his mom probably let him get every rebound when they played.
Now they need to make sure they don't leave Kleiza or Bayless
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
I really think it's the worst I've ever seen.
NBA or college. Unbelievable. They are making Bayless look like AI in his prime.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Feb 6, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Please draft a front court stud with our lottery pick this year....please, please, please
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions
I just want someone that can come in and contribute immediately. Not some bum from Europe.
Any position 3-5. If we dont keep Nick we can draft anyone 2-5.
jv doesn't rebound, play sound defense, help his teammates on offense, set good picks or maker good passes out of the paint
What do we see in him?
7ft of goofy?
The only thing he is good:
Offensive rebound (and then miss).
Well to be fair, he can dunk too.
he's one of the top 10 rebounders in the nba, i think
though he’s sucking tonight (and has for 2 weeks)
I think a lot of that has to do with how bad our team is? Who else can rebound?
6-2 Trevor Booker? You already know NY doesnt rebound. Wall grabs a few. Dray—ha!…Yea, so I think most of his boards are a product of no one else being able to rebound, and his height. He doesnt do a good job boxing out of the defensive end mostly because he is in the air going after EVERY shot.
Nck shoulda threw it in the air lol
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 10:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, what harm could possibly come from that?
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Feb 6, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Lol
Against any other team, sure.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The ghost of Ruffin has been slain!
Or at least wounded….
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jordan and Nick
Nice effort!
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Feb 6, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions
did vc just get nasty?
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 10:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yup -- choke
you were just a couple seconds early
Seriously I called that
Double overtime
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Feb 6, 2012 10:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nick should never had been fouled
Under two seconds, Nick, chuck it towards the basket
grrr….
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions
Well if he could his clutch FTs game woulda been over.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
dont' know how many more chances we'll get..
We’ve have 3-4 chances to close this out already
quick poll:
Possible?
NOT POSSIBLE!!!!?
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions
Thank God.,
"You know how we used to say Wade was Michael Jackson with a bunch of Titos on the Heat? The Wizards... They don't even have Titos. They got a bunch of Randys." - Charles Barkley
by Bread Lover on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
THANK GOD!!!
Buddha, Shiva, Jehovah, and all the rest of them too!
by gbkdc on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
the beat
They are playing my beat. That’s right guys
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Always nice when Calderon doesn't have 17 assists.
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by returnofswagger on Feb 6, 2012 10:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well that was fun
a 10 point win at home against a terrible team would have been so boring….
I think Wall got a piece of that last Calderon shot...
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
I heard he is coming here on Wednesday as well.
needs John best effort and smart play.
I think we need to come out to play strong in first Q if we want to have any chance to be competitive.
Exactly
Lin is a high IQ player who uses his body well, if Bayless can score 30 Lin may well drop 30 as well…
While Kleiza can drop 30, Melo is gonna drop 60.. god bless us
Smh can we be happy for atleast a day....
Give Bayless credit he was making tough contested shots, but hey at the end of the day we still won.
I wish Lin wasnt such a stereotypical asian...Harvard? Really Jeremy?
Next we need a Filipino in the league we are much more into basketball than Chineese and Koreans. And a thug ass filipino at that.
Tell me a ghetto asian dude in the NBA wouldn’t be the most entertaining player since Jason Williams or AI.
He played about 45 min
and he is having the confidence to beat the world now.
He almost had a triple double with 8 TOs too
Amare was out and Melo played for 6 mins, that may help us on Wed
toronto was talking shit about... US
do they know who they are. John sounds like a MVP in his overtime
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 6, 2012 10:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we are full strength and they are missing their best player
we HAVE to win these games
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Wall IS a Gamechanger
Its really easy to root for this team when they play well and shoot decently!! and I officially have a mancrush on Booker T…. I think he could be a starter for the future at the 4.
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