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Where Is JaVale?

If JaVale McGee didn't stay at the Verizon Center last night lifting weights, watching tape, and working on his defensive positioning until he passed out, then he should be M.I.A. and his face will soon appear on a milk carton, because there's no other course of action that would be acceptable following his complete embarrassment versus the Clippers.

After getting abused by "comparable" DeAndre Jordan, McGee should be working day and night to make sure that a night like 2/4/12 NEVER happens again and if getting "posterized" repeatedly doesn't motivate him, then nothing will.

What we witnessed last night was a fight between two big dogs, with the "Alpha Male" easily identifying itself and relentlessly pounding the weaker dog into submission. Jordan beat down McGee so badly throughout the game, that McGee should have been lying in the fetal position, sucking his thumb, so he couldn't be dominated anymore!

DeAndre Jordan even openly mocked and laughed at McGee throughout the game as well, even giving McGee's old "salute" after a dunk.

I don't know to many self respecting males that could allow themselves to be disrespected in the manner that JaVale McGee was last night by the Clippers and not take some sort of severe action to restore their name.

This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.

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Couldn't have said it any better...

JaVale seems to do okay individually against finesse centers, but disappears against more physical ones. He was called to the challenge last night and didn’t show up.

As stated, last night should be a clear signal to him that he’s got some work to do both in the weight room and the film room.

by Espresso on Feb 5, 2012 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, Every Big Does Get A Facial

Once or twice a season is normal. Perkins got facialized by Blake, but I doubt he was going to let it happen twice, three times, or more in the same game! McGee’s effort has been poor over the last three games and his poor effort collided with a player (Jordan) that wanted to make him look foolish for it.

by SpecialSauce on Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He doesn't have good fundamentals.

It starting to look like 2008 was Ernie’s worst draft. That class was deep in talent with several big men taken after McGee on their way to having much better careers.

by djnnnou on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you name those several big men?

There’s really only one big man picked after JaVale that I would pick over him (Marc Gasol).

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Feb 5, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong draft . . .

Gasol was 2007, McGee was 2008.

There was only one center that, in hindsight, is clearly a better pick than McGee was at 18 and that was Jordan who landed in the second round. As far as big men go, there were some solid PF who went later than 18 in the same draft. Darrell Arthur is maybe a close call — but I would still give McGee the edge. Luc Mbah a Moute has carved out a niche as a defensive specialist — although I don’t think he would really qualify as significantly better either. J.J. Hickson is a closer call — although, I’d still rather have McGee. Serge Ibaka might get an edge. So basically, Ibaka and Jordan. The verdict is still out though and McGee could develop. He probably won’t catch-up to DeAndre Jordan, but he could still become a quality center.

by Vegas010 on Feb 6, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Jordan and Ibaka are better

Pekovic and Asik are only in their second years and beginning to look like the better pros.

by djnnnou on Feb 6, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's the most awesome Kobe poster I have ever seen

Rec’d

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 5:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Javale looked bad BUT---

This is a team game and his guards got beat too much and on some of the lobs & dunks & rebounds he was going at a guard that beat his man.
And sometime he just played Javale ball and got schooled and then went thru the motions.
Bottom line this TEAM ain’t too good.

by VBfan on Feb 5, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

a lack of weak side defense accounts for a lot of lob passes that are made in the half court.

we had some really bad rotations to protect the weak side at least four times in the clips game. One or two players weren’t really JaVale’s fault.

by thewiz06 on Feb 6, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This game solidified my opinion

That JaVale need to “get paid” elsewhere. His stats have improved, he passes the “eye test” on many nights, seems to be working harder…but the advanced stats say his play is not helping create wins even if it appears in traditional stats to be improving.

Add in nights like this one, and you can see how easy it is to outclass him in the post. He might alter a lot of shots even when he isn’t blocking them, and I wouldn’t be shocked if a team with a better track record (ie most high school teams) of player development turned him into a star. But within this organization the holes in his game really just SCREAM that we need to avoid giving him a toxic DeAndre Jordan style contract.

The pundits keep saying its the benchmark for JV, but the clips game proves otherwise to me

by Maroon and Black on Feb 6, 2012 12:49 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

rec'd in every way
That JaVale need to "get paid" elsewhere. His stats have improved, he passes the "eye test" on many nights, seems to be working harder…but the advanced stats say his play is not helping create wins even if it appears in traditional stats to be improving.

This may be addition by subtraction is some ways as well. If he develops into whatever we all project he should be, you count your losses and move on. I’m more and more convinced he won’t put it together here.

I will say if the Wiz do manage to draft Sullinger though, I’d be inclined to see what that combo looks like.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Feb 6, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Problem is . . .

that there aren’t a lot of players with his skill set and size at the position. I agree that a DeAndre Jordan style contract shouldn’t be on the table. But if you’re talking about $7 to $8 million a year instead of about $10 a year, it gets to be a much harder call. McGee may be just a bordeline NBA starter, but unless there is a clearly better alternative, it’s going to be a tough call. Everything comes down to cost.

by Vegas010 on Feb 6, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Re-sign him

Even up to DeAndre Jordan money. JaVale’s a center, and he’ll put up good numbers, so he’ll always be tradeable.

But until he learns to play PnR and defend competently, he can’t share the court with Wall. Move him to the second unit, immediately, and only give him the twelve or fifteen minutes of playing time when Wall is sitting. Maybe that drives his price down, too.

This offseason, offer a huge short term contract to Jason Kidd or maybe Andre Miller to give JaVale an intensive crash course in the pick and roll with the second unit. Maybe a sign-and-trade involving Rashard’s partially guaranteed contract?

by yop32 on Feb 6, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

His PNR and PNRD is really the problem

But the wiz have shown zero interest in setting up those fundamental basketball tenants in the last 5-10 years. JaVale has been her FOUR years…if you haven’t flashed the ability to improve in four years the likelihood of it happening is almost nonexistent.

Its the same with with our magical roster of high IQ guys with no skills and high athleticism guys with no IQ. You can’t be waiting on 7 different guys to “develop their J” at one time. While its a common tenant to say you can teach shooting, its also usually apparent quickly in a career that someone will be able to learn how.

by Maroon and Black on Feb 6, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

This is excactly what is wrong with the culture of this organization
But the wiz have shown zero interest in setting up those fundamental basketball tenants in the last 5-10 years.

A culture of losing is not just losing all the time, it’s not doing what is needed to become a winner. It’s trying to get a 100% return without giving 100% effort. " What you pay for is what you get" isn’t just about money litterally. It’s in every vessel of an organizational culture.

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 7, 2012 5:17 AM EST up reply actions  

10 years ago the NBA was an iso league

today it’s a more Pick and roll, fundamental game than that time, yet we’re still stuck in 2000-2004 mode…..

by thewiz06 on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

McGee's defense is wretched

He is a very poor on-ball defender and a very poor help defender. He is indeed a great shot-blocker which almost always comes when he is helping. The problem is, it seems to be the only way he knows how to help. If the situation and timing are right, he can get up like no one else and bat it away. But how many times does he just stand like a statue and watch some wing player drive for a layup? He has no sense of where to move to disrupt the opposing offense.
Although his offense has improved a little by developing a serviceable hook shot, he is not a good offensive player because despite his “athleticism,” i.e., running and jumping, he is not a good athlete in the sense of hand-eye coordination or handling the basketball or seeing the court. On a contested rebound, have you ever seen him come away with the ball? Rarely, because he just can’t secure it.
Which means he is also only a mediocre rebounder.

by jmuravchik on Feb 6, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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