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John Wall And His Follow Through

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After writing this piece on John Wall on Friday, I spent a lot of time on Synergy Sports studying video and trying to figure out some of Wall's problems offensively. One major problem, of course, is that he's currently shooting an abysmal 22 percent on jumpers from 16-23 feet. All quick point guards need to have that shot in their arsenal to keep the defense honest and open up driving lanes to the basket, and Wall is very far away from having it.

Any time you're shooting that poorly from that distance, there are many problems with your shooting motion. However, I noticed one element in particular that Wall can easily clean up that should improve his percentage: his follow through.

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Coaches tell you from a young age that it's important to hold your follow through on your jump shots instead of pulling it back too quickly. It's a small thing that makes a huge difference in the trajectory of the ball. And yet, while watching Wall shoot, he really has issues holding that follow through all the time.

Take a look at these three shots. (Apologies for the demo version of ScreenFlow flashing over the screen. Hopefully, you can still see these shots).

On all three of these, Wall is holding his follow through, and the shot went in. Now, compare that motion to these missed shots.

On all three of these shots, Wall pulls his follow through back too quickly instead of holding it. It's no surprise that he missed all three of these shots.

This isn't an altogether uncommon thing. Tony Parker, for example, used to be awful at holding his follow through, but thanks to devoted work with a shooting coach, he now always does it. As Wall continues to work on improving his shot, he also needs to make sure he's always holding that follow through long enough for the shot to have the right rotation.

It's a small fix that I think will make a big difference in his shooting percentages.

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I think it's a problem with his mentality

He’s always trying to drive drive drive, I think the coaches should tell him to shoot a certain amout of mid jumpers every game. I’m not sure if they are already, but seeing John Wall it doesn’t seem like he has a shot in mind unless the shot clock is winding down or the defense literally is so sagged off that he has to take the shot. In both cases, he’s not taking the shot because he wants to but rather because he has to, and those aren’t shots that you want to take especially if you’re a poor shooter. I never see John Wall doing one crossover pull up, well I do, it’s just rare. I know it might be a difficult shot for him, but it’s a losing season anyway and so I would rather let John work on his mechanics in game.
I think that’s where the difference comes. The videos where he shoots with good follow throughs are shots he wanted to take, and that he was confident with thus he was holding his hands in a posing motion (thus the follow through). On the other hand, the videos where he doesn’t have follow throughs are the ones where he had to take the shot, which is why he pulled away quickly already thinking it probably won’t go in.

by Young Wook Lee on Feb 4, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

geez, that is such a fundamentally easy thing to fix

i dont know if it’s encouraging or discouraging

by DCrez on Feb 4, 2012 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

You mean just like the pick setting or boxing out of Javale?

Ask our coaching staff…….

It’s unbelievable that we don’t teach fundamentals.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 5:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post

He needs to have the spotlight taken off him so he can develop. He is not even the best point guard on the team right now. It is not just his shooting. He doesnt move the ball.

I hope he makes this adjustment you suggested and improves. I still think he has the desire and drive. But dont be surprised if he is like Jason Kidd and takes until he is nearly thirty to learn how to shoot the ball. If you are not a good shooter after your first twenty years in life, it doesnt get turned around “in a couple of years.” Alot of his shooting problems are mental. Didnt he light up the summer league? Who knows when that mental block gets lifted. JVM still has his mental blocks and he is in his fourth season!

by les boulez bomber on Feb 4, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

I have to disagree

The reason Mack looks better running the offense is because he plays with role players that know their roles, there for the ball doesn’t get stuck, and the way Crawford has been playing as of late makes it easier for Mack to initiate the offense. Though I do agree Mack is a better shooter, and I like Wall form it reminds me of a Baron Davis type form with the quick release I just think it’s confidence, he is a pass first point guard so once he seen his shot is not going in he converts backs to what he knows best passing the ball.

by p.robb87 on Feb 4, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

its cool to disagree

I agree the second team is really the first team and plays within themselves better and moves the ball better. and of course, mack is a better shooter.

but mack is also a better point guard. he is more accomplished. he plays within himself a lot more. JW is out of control a lot and does not play within himself a lot. Of course, we can hope it is all because of the other four he is playing with, but it is not the whole story for sure. Every game I see him look off the pass he should make. JW has more upside, but Mack has more experience playing higher level ball, and it shows on the court to me.

…of course, mack is also doing this in limited minutes so maybe it would not be the case if the minutes were reversed. and JW has more upside for sure

by les boulez bomber on Feb 4, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he needs the spotlight off of him, but he needed it last year

We needed Kirk to stay and we needed more vets like Kirk in the first place. I too was advocating youth but that was because we drafted Booker, Seraphin and H. and had Blatche, McGee, Young and Yi.

We would have been better of concentrating on 2 or 3 young players and surrounding that with vets like kirk as Mike wrote in an article a while ago.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 5:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good post

He really needs to change the mechanics on his jumper. He’s got a slow set up, then he speeds up his release which is not a good way to shoot because the rhythm is off.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Feb 4, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

I think it's his off the dribble pull up mechanics

He needs to settle down when he crosses his man over, look at how wild he looks when he crosses his guy over than pull’s up. He should do a better job with his ball handling, look at Kevin Durant when he crosses his man just as smooth as his follow through.

by p.robb87 on Feb 4, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

All great ball handlers have outstanding shooting skills.

Lou Williams, Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Gilbert Arenas, just to name a few off the top of my head look at how they handle the ball and can get to anywhere they want to on the court and get to their spots which also result to higher percentage shot’s. You can see Wall trying to slow the game down and pick his spots in the pick and pop game.

by p.robb87 on Feb 4, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

walla shot

bring back darvin ham

by jeffbenson on Feb 4, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I was always taught

that you know you have good shooting form when you hold your follow through and your elbow is straight. In all of the missed shots above, his mechanics look like Dwight Howard free throws. I think Mike is right, improving the follow through would be a significant step in improving his jump shot mechanics.

by Marine4Life51 on Feb 4, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Also

Why is Justin Beiber love story in the related videos on youtube???

by Marine4Life51 on Feb 4, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone buy Mike the full version of ScreenFlow

Seriously though, its more than just his follow through— his whole form is weird
He holds onto the ball for too long on some shots, almost like he’s hesitating

by AFM on Feb 4, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

There are several problems with his shot.

Follow through is one of several problems with his shot.

Notice that almost all of his misses are back rim. Back rim shots are typically caused three things.

1. Not getting your elbow high enough: Your elbow should be at eye level when you shoot.

2. No follow through: As noted in the article, you need to hold your fingers in the bucket until your shot falls.

3. Rotation: Good rotation on the ball will make those back rim shots fall. Good rotation is a combination of shooting with your fingertips rather than your hand and good follow through.

Now with all that said, John also shoots off balance. When shooting a jump shot, you should land balanced on the floor. Notice how unbalanced he is when he lands. He is almost falling down.Young shooters love to fade away when shooting the ball. You can get away with this when you have good form. See Nick Young.

What is most frustrating about all of this, is that John shoots square with no major hitches in his shot. Most of his shots are inline with the basket. These are all fixable problems. Hitches in your motion are not. So this tells me he is either being poorly coached, not putting in the reps, or is just plain stubborn. You tell me what the problem is.

by Paul Barnett on Feb 4, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

there's another possibility

Which is that he’s so damn athletic that he never needed a jumper to dominate games on lower levels and only now is starting to address the issue. It takes time to unlearn bad habits.

by Mike Prada on Feb 4, 2012 5:05 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

There is that too.

You are correct. I am sure he made a living driving past dudes and never needed a jumper.

by Paul Barnett on Feb 4, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

What I don't get

is that he said he was going to spend the summer working on his jumper. What happened?

by AFM on Feb 4, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Summer League Street Ball

I have a feeling he tore it up in the summer leagues and got a little full of himself. He slipped back into bad streetball habits and didn’t dedicate the time needed to improve his shot.

by Paul Barnett on Feb 4, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone on the team doesn't do that often...Nick Young

And every time Wall didn’t follow through, it reminded me of Nick. Now Nick is a purer shooter, and he has really quick release (although everything else seems slow). It works for him. But obviously, that isn’t Wall shot, and hopefully he can find his own shot.

by DavidDunn on Feb 4, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

One question ?

So what about Ray Allen’s form he doesn’t follow through and he also has a quick release, me personally I think it has more to do with his ball handling skills more of a dribbling into your shot type issue I don’t think he will ever be in the mold of a Ray Allen catch and shoot type, but more of a shooter who dominates the ball and can get anywhere on the court type. But hell what do I know.

by p.robb87 on Feb 4, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ray Allen has perfect follow through.

Ray Allen has about as perfect of a shot as you could ask for. Everything is square to the basket and he has amazing follow through.

by Paul Barnett on Feb 4, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That pic doesn't tell half the story

Most of Ray jumpers are catch and shoot, and most of the time it’s a quick release, and when he does follow through he tends to lean forward to the basket.

by p.robb87 on Feb 5, 2012 6:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

You are absolutely right Ray has perfect follow through it’s just his follow through looks like a quick release, but he has perfect follow through and a quick release at the apex when he’s in the air. I went and looked at some of his shooting displays one in the playoffs against the Knicks and the other in the Finals against the Lakers and on some of his shots he looks like he is tear dropping some of his jump shots it’s just his quick release on his follow through.

by p.robb87 on Feb 5, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea...

Ray is so smooth, it is really hard to tell how smooth he is until you slow his motion down.

You can get away with bad form if you have the same shot motion every time. Consistency is also important. Nick Young’s form isn’t the best, but he is consistent in his motion.

by Paul Barnett on Feb 5, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

This does tell the whole story

Ray Allen on Sports Science

The hight of the release point: perfect
The angle of the release point: perfect
The followthrough of the release: perfect
The rotation on the ball: perfect

Also, it talks about the elbow being pointed straigth at the rim. Wall’s elbow is always in a different place, every time he shoots

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 5:54 AM EST up reply actions  

He also has to keep his elbow aligned with the basket

His elbow isn’t even pointing at the rim when he shoots. There’s something called the “Bandit shooting arm” that you can buy at Ebay for $40 that helps correct that. Our players need to start using that.

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by DMVLeGenD on Feb 4, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

lol

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 5:55 AM EST up reply actions  

As mentioned, it's more than follow-through

I would add release point to the list as well. There is software that provides a side-by-side comparison of two player’s shots. I keep being told that the Wiz are a multi-hundred million organization and have stuff like that. I see no evidence of use of technology or coaching of shooting technique.

If you would run Wall next to Jordan (or whomever), you would see where his rhythm is off. The same applies to McGee’s foul shots, starting with his flat feet (i.e., weight not being forward on the toes).

This stuff is easy to fix. In comparison, no wonder why they don’t yet know how to play as a team (which is harder).

by Izman on Feb 4, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

I don't care about Walls shooting

he knocked down shots against Toronto yesterday. Every elite athlete I know is elite because they master a skill they don’t have. I don’t think Wall is any different.

by hambonejackson on Feb 4, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

I will add

by the end of this season, Wall will be hitting his shots. Thats a guarantee from Mens Warehouse.

by hambonejackson on Feb 4, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wall also guaranteed playoffs this yr....

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think its his follow through but his off hand

Wall uses his off hand too much on his shot. Im kind of surprised that this has been discussed before. Wall places his off hand over the top of the ball which can easily change or re-direct his shot. He needs to move his off hand to a more vertical position and I think he would see a drastic improvement in his shot. I would also say that shooting is a game of confidence, something that he is somewhat lacking. The wiz need to get Dave Hopla back in town.

by Daveidid on Feb 4, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Another issue with John's shot is the tendency to fade away

He’s fading on all three of those missed shots, unnecessarily. He’s making his shot harder than it needs to be.

by satchmore on Feb 4, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

His main problem is that he elevates and doesn't release until he's on the way down

its settle but it’s very hard to be consistent that way (Blake Griffin actually has that problem as well)…. good shooters shoot on their way up near their apex..

by koop1122 on Feb 4, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

Well, we have managed to name every aspect of a jumpshot and

Dear John,

We concluded that about every aspect of your jumper (spot up or pull up) are poor at best.

the elevation is often to low, the release is to late (when you’re on your way down), your followthrough is inconsistant, your elbow flares out, you use your off hand too much, the rithem of your jumper is inconsistant.

So John, have your work cut out for you. Get a shooting coach.

Sincerely,

the biggest Wizards fans of the planet.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 6, 2012 6:05 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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