The Wizards have aggressively tried to deal Blatche in advance of the March 15 trade deadline, according to multiple league sources, but struggled to find any takers. Blatche is certainly open to a change of scenery, according to a person close to him.
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blatche has some value
…given his ability and a contract that isn’t that bad by nba standards(dont forget kwame is getting 7 mil this year), there should be some team that would be willing to take a chance … it would seem they could trade blatche for a shorter crummy contract like the gilbert for lewis deal
A Gilbert for Lewis deal would continue to hamstring us. I'd rather amnesty him.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 27, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but Ted doe not
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 6:36 AM EST up reply actions
*does not
Same thing with AB. I’d rather have Ted eating that $28million but that’s easy for me to say.
If he really want’s to make this franchisse win games again, he does not flop 1 bad contract for another, slightly less but still severely, bad one.
I guess we will see what he loves more: His wallet or winning.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
This report
would imply otherwise. It seems that the rest of the league doesn’t want anything to do with this guy either.
Please let this work.
If you want beef then bring the ruckus.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 27, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions
I Doubt That the Wizards Will Trade Blatche
Because Ernie knows that if no other team offers any players of value, he can just decline every bad proposal and amnesty Blatche this off-season. I think Ernie only trades Blatche if he can get back (a) player(s) worthy of his/their respective contract(s).
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
"JaVale has five highlight plays a game. Unfortunately, there's about 200 plays in a game. He's got to get more substance than style." -- Flip Saunders summing up Javale McGee perfectly
traded or amnestied
I’m glad to be assured that he won’t be here next season!
by jsuh0 on Feb 27, 2012 3:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He has to play
Its time for him to get back on the court. If he can show something there may be a slight chance to move him. I don’t expect miracles though.If we can’t move him then he should transition into the back up C spot.
He might not show anything until after the deadline, which would be just like him wouldn’t it?
Just curious
How confident are we that Blatche gets amnestied if he isn’t traded?
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63.6%
Just kidding. I’d like to think Ernie will get rid of Blatche one way or the other, but I have a terrible feeling he may try to keep him if he can’t trade him. Which is to say that Ernie has lost my trust.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
"JaVale has five highlight plays a game. Unfortunately, there's about 200 plays in a game. He's got to get more substance than style." -- Flip Saunders summing up Javale McGee perfectly
That's why I think a large part of the answer rides with Ernie's future
If Ted brings in someone new, I would expect that he would give the new guy the leverage to make that kind of move to build his kind of roster. If Ernie stays, things get a lot dicier, IMO.
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by Jake Whitacre on Feb 27, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
good points made
that Ted won’t cut Rashard AND amnesty Blatche while also paying Flip to not coach. I’m not certain at all that they’ll just cut him.
How about:
Blatche and Singleton or Mack to the Hornets
Trevor Ariza to the Wizards.
Salary-wise Blatche and Ariza are almost a wash. Crap, BLatche has one more year than Ariza. The Hornets take on Singleton’s rookie deal.
He'll have to pay AB $28m to not play...
Not confident Ted is willing to.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 27, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
If Blatche is claimed off waivers . . .
then a portion of that salary gets absorbed by his new team. e.g. the cap impact is the first benefit, the second benefit is that you can actually offload a portion of the contract if a team places a claim on the player while he is on waivers.
This strikes me as a pretty realistic outcome. A guy that’s as young as Blatche is going to generate interest at some price that’s probably north of $1 mill — even if its $1 million a year for the next four years.
I like the idea, but doesn't seem realistic
What’s in it for the Hornets? They will get an underachieving player who has a year longer than Ariza and they will get an under performing rookie. What’s the upside? They might as well keep Ariza.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
My trade for Blatche would be 60% looking for locker room leadership
and 40% skill…
someone that was part of a successful rebuild and can come to the table with credibility….
Not sure who that guy is, but that would be my focus….clearly, these kids can’t lead themselves…
and btw-if it helps, I am willing to include Vesely, Young, or Singleton, if that is what it takes to get a better player….
I'm not.
Even if Wiz want to amnesty blatche, i hope they don’t unless they can get a GREAT player to sign with wiz to take up his freed up cap space
Yeah I haven't seen anything from Ted that would indicate he is willing to amnesty AB.
Not saying he won’t but I think people are taking Ted’s willingness to do that for granted when they probably shouldn’t.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 27, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Get rid of blatche
Hire john Thompson as coach (last radio show is this Wednesday and said he’s moving on to bigger opprotunities
Draft Davis and boom we make the playoffs next year
Step one is in the process… a man can dream right?
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 27, 2012 3:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Trade Value
I think Ernie only trades Blatche if he can get back (a) player(s) worthy of his/their respective contract(s).
I’d trade Blatche for a bologna sandwich at this point.
i'd trade him for some government cheese
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
Wouldn't You Rather Amnesty Him?
If you trade him, that means you have to take back players that roughly equal his salary cap hold. Only then you couldn’t use the amnesty clause to free up that space. So whoever you get back needs to be productive, otherwise you are wasting that salary cap space.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
"JaVale has five highlight plays a game. Unfortunately, there's about 200 plays in a game. He's got to get more substance than style." -- Flip Saunders summing up Javale McGee perfectly
by cuppettcj on Feb 27, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeaaa, it'd def have to be right kind of trade
like the one SpecialSauce talks abt below, one where we arent committed at all to the guys we acquire, otherwise amnesty is prolly better
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
Correction
That’s only if we trade him to a team above the cap. We could always try to trade him to a team under the cap that can absorb his salary. We can get a top 59 protected 2nd round pick as compensation, the equivalent of government cheese. But that limits are trading partners significantly.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
"JaVale has five highlight plays a game. Unfortunately, there's about 200 plays in a game. He's got to get more substance than style." -- Flip Saunders summing up Javale McGee perfectly
Toronto wants Chandler
Perhaps there’s a deal to made with the Raps? Barbosa and Aaron Gray for Blatche? That would clear them additional $3 mil, which I believe would them give them about $7 mil in cap space this year to sign Wilson Chandler.
If Wilson Chandler is available at $9million or lower
We should sign him ourselves and Amnestying Blatche would give us $7.5million in capspace alone.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 27, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'd hate to see the Wizards give into the mob mentality of fans and get rid of Blatche for that reason
Because then the question becomes, who will DC fans turn on next? Because it will certainly be someone. The fanbase in this town is brutal, and I will just hate to see what happens to their next victim.
What I would like to see is the Wizards hire a new GM and coach, and let those two decide whether Blatche should be traded or amnestied.
by disgrunted on Feb 27, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I Think That's Easy
Because then the question becomes, who will DC fans turn on next?
The answer is – Nick Young. I’ve already turned on him. 6 for 23??? Are you kidding me?! One more game like that and I’m grabbing my pitchfork.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
"JaVale has five highlight plays a game. Unfortunately, there's about 200 plays in a game. He's got to get more substance than style." -- Flip Saunders summing up Javale McGee perfectly
This guy has had chance after chance
He’s taken us on the ‘ride’ and just isnt that good at all. 7-day dray….best shape of my life…..telling us he’s gonna prove he deserved this contract…etc etc. He’s not a pro yet, and theres no room for that on a rebuilding team. If he had this kind of production and he was a hard worker that plays hard and leader, and helped instruct on defense with communication and just the lil things, i dont think he’d be shopped; but he’s none of those
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
by KurisuDevil on Feb 27, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh and then he likes to publicly argue with the coach
then do the exact thing he argued abt hating to do
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
You apparently haven't been to New York...
People are tired of losing. The criticism that Blatche gets is deserved. What has he ever done that he should get fan support? He has not developed on the court, gotten in trouble off the court, and hasn’t shown that he is willing to get better. He’s been here 7 years, what do you expect? When is enough, enough?
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Blatche deserves criticism but I disagree with this
The criticism that Blatche gets is deserved.
Blatche is a scapegoat for every problem the Wizards have had for the past 20 years at this point. The fan base has turned against him. Booing somebody on your team before they step on the court is just nonsense.
by Elvin_is_my_Elvis on Feb 28, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh please
Dray is just a big victim. We’re all so mean to him despite him pouring his blood, sweat and tears into this team. Come on.
Dray still hasn't died for us yet??
Bamboozled again!
Truer words
have never been spoken on this site. D.C. has a mean, bitter fanbase (myself included to a certain extent) that will turn on Young, McGee or someone else once Blatche is out of here. It’s pretty sad really. Our teams may suck, but excessively booing players at home, mocking their weight, critiquing off-field/court habits (diet, nightlife, etc.) is just unnecessary — regardless of the player’s salary.
by Uknowit2309 on Feb 28, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bitter is a good word to describe it, yes.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 6:38 AM EST up reply actions
Outside View
I often get the feeds from the away teams when I watch online and those commentators always praise Blatche as a talented guy.
A change of scenery and a backup role with limited minutes on a good team could do wonders for him. Would you rather have Blatche or Kwame?
So don’t sell low.
I like the Bullets
by K-Bro on Feb 27, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree, no fire sale here...
Worst case I would accept is even up to Detroit for Charlie Villanueva (if he passes physical), who can at least hit the three consistently.
but thats at the 'commentator' level
but i think the GM’s of the league know what this guy is really all about, and its not good.
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
If he was healthy I would rather have Kwame
Kwame Brown is much better defender and actually a capable backup. Blatche is extremely inconsistent.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Dray straight up for
Channing Frye
Trevor Ariza
Al Harrington
would make me happy. Hell, it may make sense to think about trading big for small, normally a MAJOR no-no.
Harrington's one of the best sixth men in the league, that's not happening
by Mike Prada on Feb 27, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...if Harrington was available for Dray...I would start upping the ante`
immediately….“What else do you want, anyone not name John is available…”
that isn’t happening….
Dumb and Dumb
Trashing Blatche is just the latest in the dumb topics that local sports ‘fans’ like to do. Yes lets get rid of him for a box of rocks and let Vessley and Singleton continue to excel. Blatche is not an all-star but he is better than any other power forward on this roster. And yet it is important to get rid of him and do what? Oh, that’s right, then get rid of Nick Young – agains and then do what? Is there anyone else on this team that can score at any time? Nope, but let’s get another box of rocks for him. Dumb and Dumb. Whoee boy.
by poppalaw on Feb 27, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Injured
And no one wants to mention that he has been playing injured since the start of the year. Look he is not going to an all star game wtihout a ticket – so what, he still contributes on a positive side. He has the best plus/minus of any starter on this team.
An injured shoulder doesn't affect brain cells
the things he does on the court wrong are often boneheaded mistakes. Taking a lot of ill-advised shots, half-heartedly playing bad defense. These are not things that win.
+/- mean nothing, especially when he was starting on a team that was on an historic futile pace.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
yes because keeping Blatche and Young is so smart
And nobody is saying that the pieces we trade for are going to be mainstays. The ‘core’ of Young and Blatche have been atrocious over the years, and the beginning of this year was some of the worst basketball i’ve ever seen the Wizards play. We should just ride it out and sit on our hands with both of them, wait until a super sexy deal comes to us for them and until then continue to suffer thro their stupidity and basketball ineptitude.
I’ll tell you whats dumb, this is all so reminiscent of a stupid person who keeps touching fire with his hands; getting burned and yet for some inexplicable reason he keeps touching it. You would think after a while he might have the lightbulb go off ‘hmmm fire hurts, maybe i should stop touching it’. Well its abt time we stopped touching the fire and seeing if something different happens
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
and i have no idea how we trade for anyone worse
b/c i challenge anyone to name me two more basketball inept players than Blatche/Young….try it….not even JR Smith is as clueless as those two.
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
Kurisu, it's pretty clear you're not a NY fan
But who do you want to replace him at the 2? Do you really believe Crawford can start and provide more than Nick except for the few flashy passes we get a game?
by oakhillswag on Feb 27, 2012 7:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well Craw rebounds/plays d/hustles on the floor/attacks the rim/
and its more than just flashy passes, he passes in general which is nice. But no Craw isnt rdy for the starting 2, i’d like to sign Danny Green in FA.
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
Im not really thinking abt it as...whoever the next starting 2 is gonna be the long term guy necessarily
He’s not gonna demand the kind of money in FA that will make him a long term kind of guy, he’s a nice stop-gap player without taking up a lot of cap, and he’s productive and he can play the game, Pop wouldnt let him see the floor if he wasnt, he’s just a steady player.
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
I don't know if green is ready to start either though
When manu went down they had not Danny green but Kawhi Leonard come in to start. And Leonard is a sf, while Green is a guard, which I think says something about his ability to start
by oakhillswag on Feb 27, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As far as guys that take way too many long 2s
And are allergic to the lane go, Nick Young is real solid at those long 2s. Plus he plays some good D sometimes. Plenty of 2-guards with delusions of grandeur just as big as NYs, they just aren’t in a position to act those delusions out like he is.
He's not better than Booker
Look at the numbers as starters this season. It tells the story.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Blatche is way more talented than Booker. HUGE gap. But yeah, Booker actually tries.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 27, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He said better, not more talented
There is no question about his talent, but that doesn’t mean anything. If he doesn’t try than why does it matter how talented he is. Greg Oden is talented too, but what does that mean?
Perhaps we should define what is ‘better’. I look at it as who has played better this year. Clearly that has been Booker, but Blatche has always had a higher ceiling.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
look at Blatche's 09-10 "advanced" stats when he was 'the man'
And look at Bookers from this year. Booker is a more complete player and doesn’t lag as far behind in shooting as everyone assumes.. And this is vs the Good Blatche. He demolishes the 2012 Blatche.
We never ran the offense through Booker though.
I’ll give you rebounding, but Booker doesn’t have the offensive skills and versetility Blatche has and he isn’t half the ball handler Blatche is. We are talking about a legit 6’11 skilled bigman over a 6’7-ish hustle player.
I love Booker for what he is, but I don’t overvalue him. Blatche, with all his skil and talent is not the better player over Booker right now because he simply hasn’t got the make up.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 6:45 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The fun part of basketball
Sometimes effort is more important than talent. Sometimes it’s the other way around. If you’re stuck choosing one of the two to build around, sure Dray has way more potential for greatness.
Maybe he could find that potential better somewhere else. He wouldn’t be the first person in history who found it difficult to grow out of the rookie-ness and only reached full potential with a new team.
Yeah, wise words indeed
I actually hope he get’s his act together once he is in a different environment. He seems like a good dude, mostly anyway.
If Channing Frye goes off again, I’m going to drive my car off an overpass. Via offramp, having used my turn signal in a safe and legal fashion - Bullet Nation in Exile
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
Booker is better by any measure other than "PPG"
I’m sure he could get up to Blatche’s level if he took 6-7 ill-advised shots per game and hit 2 of them.
We definitely shouldn't amnesty him
He’s too talented for that. Either trade him for whatever positive value you can get, or get him into shape.
Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG
We've tried that for 7 years
If getting him in shape was that easy, it would have already have happened. He is paid to be in shape. If other players can do it, especially rookies, then why can’t he do so?
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
He's what the Amnesty Clause was made for IMO
but apparently we can’t amnesty him until next offseason.
damn, here i was thinking he’d be off the team in the next 2 weeks
Done with Blatche and Young
I’d like to see the Wizards make a run at Nicholas Batum. Then let Young walk. Buyout Lewis, and amnesty Blatche. Then pick up another nice young piece in the draft.
by DC Stretch on Feb 27, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Yep this group is definitely up to here with Nick and Dray...
But let’s see if Ernie can get something back for them. It does not need to be much, but there is no point in letting two guys who would at least be 20 minute a game rotation players on most teams walk for nothing,
100% agree
but the secret is out on these two, i think 2nd rd picks are a win….which is sad thinking all the time and money invested in them
Javale, you're not good! I'm glad you're not in the dunk contest! - Ivan Carter LOL
Somthin aint right with this young man - Bomani Jones on Mcgee
Dray straight up for Blake Griffin . . .
and don’t accept anything less!
by Vegas010 on Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Dray straight up (so to speak) for Stewie Griffin...
.
Stewie would have fun with McGee.
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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
by HSLex on Feb 27, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Can't we just put him on the "Free" section on craigslist?
Throw in some scrap metal and he’s gone in 15 minutes guaranteed.
What if Dray comes back and actually plays well and within the system?
How many games has he actually played within Wittman’s system… If his rust wears down and he can start knocking down jumpers and if he attacks the basket more, he’ll help the team out more. Maybe he’ll be more effective with less minutes… Because I doubt that any team will actually trade a valuable asset for him, and I don’t agree with the philosophy to get rid of someone just to get rid of them. I don’t see him as an Albert Haynesworthlessness where if you don’t let go of him immediately he’ll hurt the team. So we might as well keep him and see what happens.
it'll be the same thing all over again
he’s shown flashes which is why we kept him but look what’s happened, it’s time to let him go.
by Young Wook Lee on Feb 27, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
After Dray's big production boom in 09-10
He always looked horrendous with limited minutes. It really speaks to his head-casiness that he seems to sulk when not thrust into a starring role.
It’s too bad that he didn’t come into this season in shape and focused, I would have vastly perfered him taking too many shots to Young & Crawford. I was honestly surprised he wasn’t immediately amnestied after once again showing he doesn’t give a crap about doing what it takes to improve.
A lot harder to trade him now that a lot of teams have already dumped their comprably awful contracts
he hasn't sulked off the bench this year
if anything he embraced it and said all the right things
I dunno about 'embraced'
Either way, it’s impossible to pinpoint where his sulkiness was coming from with the home crowd booing him. I wouldn’t expect anyone to elevate their game under those conditions, so if he somehow managed to use it as fuel that would be a huge unexpected plus.
He only came off the bench in 4 of 17 games this year anyway, and getting a big W in his first game as a reserve definitely led to some high spirits and saying some good things.
How you gonna trade el Capitain?????
In other news, 5 Guys stock has plunged 40 percent
by AFM on Feb 27, 2012 7:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm amazed at the number of people defending him
Does anybody watch the games anymore? No one is saying that Blatche can’t play. The problem is he doesn’t give the effort to show that he can be a consistent NBA starter or even role player for that matter. You don’t win with players who are as lazy as him. I was all for giving him a chance this year, but he was horrible. Let me put like this, if he was really that great, then why aren’t more teams interested in getting him?
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions
im with you....he just needs to be gone....
problem is…if we cant trade him there is no way ted will amnesty him….
he likes blatche too much
Enduring the pain of wizards basketball....one game at a time
I hope personal doesn't get in the way of business
That would not be a good business move.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 27, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
i was honestly
Surprised that nobody has tried to shuffle deck chairs on the titanic with us. then i started looking through the NBA, and there just aren’t many contracts that would match up both financially and ’for basketball reasons, and of the few teams that have a player who fit the bill, most also seem to have a glut of 4s.
With a team like the Wizards, you’d think someone would take a chance on a talented 25 year old power forward who could easily have a renaissance if another team got him motivated and engaged.
We need to trade him and try and get SOMETHING out of this.
And if he gets amnestied then we BETTER have a very active offseason .
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
We have to realize that...
Whatever blatche’s potential is, hes not gonna reach it with the wiz. Its best to part ways and even if he blew up for another team, i wouldn’t be mad, its just good for both parties involved to cut ties. He’s been institutionalized here as a F’up and no one who gets booed on a reg on his own home court will ever REALLY want to go the extra distance no matter what story they’ll tell u. G’bye Blatche have a nice life!!!
I read numerous times here
When it came to Rashard’s contract, I read several posters who thought teams would be willing to throw draft picks at us to acquire his contract next year. I was always very skeptical but then I’ve never understood the details of the cap system (and don’t really want to). But if they’re right about the great value of Rashard’s contract, then wouldn’t the same apply here in reverse? Shouldn’t the Wizards be willing to offer draft picks to get some team to take Blatche’s contract? More precisely, What kind of talent could the Wizards get in a trade for Blatche if they sweetened the deal to include say this year’s or next year’s first round pick (however lottery-protected it needs to be)?
Lewis's contract
Will be expiring after next year, and is also able to be bought out for less than half of it’s face value.
So let’s say Boozer was half as valuable as he currently is, the Bulls might want to trade 4 years of Boozer for a short-term Lewis rental and then cap-space going forward.
I think it will be very hard to get anyone to want to take on 4 years of paying Blatche 7 million per year. Apparently the salary cap will become much harder in 2 years, and dead-weight like Blatche could keep a team from being able to sign actual players.
What if the Wizards threw in a draft pick?
That’s my point exactly. It will be next to impossible to trade Blatche for anything of value unless the Wizards add value to the trade package. If the Wizards want to get some team to pick up Blatche’s contract and get back some value in return, they need to offer something much more enticing than Singleton (as was suggested above). Suppose though they offered Blatche and a lottery-protected first round draft pick. There must be some team out there that will cap space that would be willing to part with a still-contributing veteran player to get the Wizards draft pick.
What kind of lottery protection though?
We’re probably looking at a top 5 pick in a nice draft.
I like that they made it public, as that makes it apparent that they’ll probably not be playing Blatche anymore. Hopefully this opens up some dialogue with teams offering players for Blatche & our top-5 pick or Blatche & McGee. I think McGee would be a bigger asset than the pick, as despite his inconsistencies and issues his player efficiency rating is 11th among Cs, squarely between an All-Star in Roy Hibbert and the guy who deserved Hibbert’s All-Star spot in Tyson Chandler.
What vets are you thinking would be realistic for Blatche+Pick and/or McGee?
I could see Ariza working out..but I’m not sure if he’s worth the pick by himself even though I really like him- he’s like if Nick Young’s game developed the way we hoped it would. You Maybe if we could swing Gustavo Ayon and/or Jason Smith in the deal and shore up our bench
No way would I trade our pick just to dump Dray
While he’s a bad contract right now, it’s not like he’s paid egregiously. If things ever started to click for him, we would have him on a very reasonable deal. Even if that never happens, no way we should trade a pick in a very crucial draft where we’ll have a top pick (even with protection).
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by DMVLeGenD on Feb 27, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!
I’m not hugely down on Dray, but there is absolutely NO WAY that we should sacrifice picks to get rid of him unless we are seriously upgrading. He’s had his chance, I think he needs to move on and find himself in another city. The ultimate insult would be that next to him underperforming for years, he actually sabotages our long-term rebuild on the way out.
by BballBrit on Feb 28, 2012 5:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, no picks!
Grunfeld messed up re-signing him 2 full seasons before his prior deal expired and now he has to cripple the future just to erase that mistake?!
Ted needs to eat the remaining $28m if he really cares to help this team, in stead of taking on a slightly less toxic contract/player to cripple us some more for the next few years. I can understand it’s though to eat all that money, blame Ernie for that, Ted. It’s one of his many questionable (but at the time defensable) descissions. Ultimately, blame your own ass for being to cheap to fire him when you took over! Now you have to pay way, way more.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 6:55 AM EST up reply actions
Who is the worst vet that you'd take for Blatche&Pick straight up?
I’m going with Josh Smith, but i’m dumb lol
No picks. Period.
Plus, the Hawks don’t need Blatche, they need a defensive big on a better contract than Smith so that they can also upgrade their bench.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
So no pick for, let's say Kevin Love?
I’m not saying Josh Smith in particular.Simply curious- if you were making a list of players for whom you’d trade that pick, all contracts & circumstances thrown out the window, who would be the last man above the cutoff point? Obviously that cutoff point would be well above what we could actually get for it.
I’m just thinking that this team needs a legitimate veteran presence so bad that the pick can’t be legitimately untouchable. Yes, this is so hypothetical that it’s damn near pointless. Just taking the temperature.
Kevin Love? Yes, ofcourse.
But like you said, that cut off line is way above any realistic trade Idea.
I think any top 35 player (meaning superstars, stars, all stars and a few fringe all stars) and about 10 of the biggest talents from the rookie and sophomore class, would do it for me. But that’s if you throw out contract situations and injury proneness because I’m not trading the pick + AB for Joe Johnson or Amare Staudemire in real life.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
Blatche's contract is way worse than Kwame's
1 year 7 million sucks for them this year, but won’t hamstring them in the future and actually can be used as a trade chip for anyone trying to dump a long term contract and clear up room for next season.
I don’t see GS trading Kwame for Blatche. Biedrins is another matter, as he gets 9 mil this year & next, with a 9 mil player option for 2013-2014 which he’ll obviously pick up as he is worthless at this stage of his career. There just aren’t that many bad contracts in the NBA anymore, and there are very few players with shorter contracts than Andray who owners would cough up for his services.
I totally disagree with Blatche being “way” more talented than Booker. They’re a wash in rebounding, Dray seems like a more willing passer, Booker is a smarter and a more physical defender. Look at Blatche’s shooting splits from 2009-2010 when he was as close to living up to his potential as he’ll ever be- then look at Bookers from this year- As far as I can tell, we just need to be getting Booker more involved with the offense. He isn’t an assassin or anything, but his numbers aren’t that far off Blatche’s and I can’t think of what else Blatche supposedly does better. Eat?
Blatche 09-10: Rim: .623 | 3-9: .423 | 10-15: .409 | 16-3pt: .401
Booker: 11-12: Rim: .710 | 3-9: .400 | 10-15: .401 | 16-3pt: .382
every time i look at Bookers advanced stats
All I can think is “They need to get this guy 5-6 more shots per game somehow some way”
Especially since he’s labeled a “hustle guy” already, but everyone plays harder when the team is getting them shot oppurtunities. I’d love to see Wall&Booker have the kind of clear connection that so many PG/PF combos do, or even the Crawford-Seraphin love affair.
Look at Booker's game on the court and that of Blatche to see the the difference in skill and talent.
Again, I agree Booker is the better player, but that’s due to effort, not talent.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 6:57 AM EST up reply actions
How about a Blatche for SJax?
He isn’t getting along with Scott Skiles and the Bucks could use a scoring big.
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
No way do I want Captain Jax on this team
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by DMVLeGenD on Feb 27, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No way, I'd want Blatche on this team.
Plus Jackson only has two years left on his contract .
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
I'd take Jackson in a heartbeat
He’s a much more competitive brand of bonehead than Blatche, and if he isn’t happy about moving to a fast-paced offensive team who asks him to shoot a ton andisn’t in Milwaukee? Well he’ll be gone 2 years sooner.
It’d be a steal to get Steven Jackson for Andray Blatche. Jackson shows up and plays, and considering the way we let our 2-guards play, i’m sure he’d thrive in the other wing spot.
Oh really?
SJax would be a horrible influence for the young players in the locker room. The same things we criticize Dray for, Bucks fans are criticizing Jackson. Y’all remember “Lap Dance Tuesday”? Well Stephen Jackson was also hosting an event DURING THE SEASON BEFORE A GAME.
Add to that that he’s on the decline, and it’s a flat out DO NOT WANT!
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by DMVLeGenD on Feb 27, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, I get it, he isn't the best locker room player either...
But I’m talking about his contract, I can care less about his off court issues…we just need to get rid of Blatche.
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
Actually..
All I’ve heard is how a lot of NBA players consider Steven Jackson to be one of the best teammates they’ve ever had. He goes hard all the time and spends a lot of time teaching younger players on the finer points of the game. He’s definitely volatile but in a much more useful way than Blatche.
That's what I always heard too
Then again, I never really followed him.
I believe he politely requested a trade when he was with the Warriors because he didn’t feel he could win there and now he basically called out the bucks by claiming the same thing. In both instances, I think he was right, but I don’t think Washington is a better situation in that respect
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Fairly Realistic Trade Partners-
The list isn’t very long, but here are the guys that fit the dual crippling criteria of being bad enough for a team to absorb Blatche’s locker room presence and salary cap torpedo.
Charlotte- Tyrus Thomas- 7.3m this year up to 9.4 in 2014-2015
Dallas- Brendan Haywood- 7.7m this year up to 9.8 in 2014-2015, 10.5m team option 2015-2016
Detroit- Charlie Villanueva 7.5m this year, 8.6m player option 2013-2014
Detroit- Ben Gordon 11.6m this year, 13.2 PlayerOption 2013-2014- Maybe a package with Nick Young? Yikes. I’d probably do it.
Golden State- Andris Biedrins- 2 years @ 9 mil, 9 mil player option 2013-2014
(Any of those last 3 would basically be the Gilbert for Lewis trade part 2, with us coming out on top thanks to our incoming cancer lasting 1 year less than our outgoing toxic waste yet again)
Houston- Hasheem Thabeet 5.1m this year, 8.5m qualifying offer 2013-2014- maybe packaged with Johnny Flynn or Jordan Hill’s roughly 3m per year deals? Just being realistic here. Prob still wouldn’t get it.
Lakers- Steve Blake & Luke Walton combo? almost 10mil this year, Walton ends after next year, Blake the year after. Maybe if they nab Sessions & Beasley? Wouldn’t be opposed to anything that brought Josh McRoberts here. Love that guy!
Milwaukee: Drew Gooden? Comprable contracts but Nah. playing too good right now.. Steven Jackson’s crap deal is 2 years shorter as is Beno Udrih’s
Minnesota- Darko @ 4.8 now, 5.6 in 2013-2014- maybe with the JJ Barea albatross contract?
just in case they need a 4th PF? Wes Johnson looks bad enough too
Orlando- Hedo Turkoglu- at 10.6 now, has a 13m player option in 13-14. Maybe Blatche+NY?
Phoenix – Josh Childress- here’s a real option. Similar contracts through 2014-2015. Not sure if he’s actually in the league though, whch just about sums up Blatche’s value perfectly.
Sacramento – John Salmons. Another real option. Not sure if either team wins. His contract gets smaller as it progresses though. I’d love this deal personally, even if John Salmons is simply a saltier Jordan Crawford. Again, too bad they have too many PFs already.
The deal that makes sense to me is the Haywood deal
Seeing how we might retain McGee it probably would be best to get a veteran backup also with Haywood’s contract being so toxic we could also be able to get Dallas 1st round, but it probably would have to wait till seasons end being that Haywood is their only big man, Mahimi doesn’t do it for me so I see Haywood as their only big man.
I think it would have to be something really sucky in return
like Luke Walton and a 1st round pick.
or what about this one? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=726udfp
Both trades are for guys who will ride the bench, but they are on shorter, cheaper deals and are not distractions.
"You need to get real!"
Even those deals I think might be for the best
It could be better just to cut ties with him and move on.
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I don't see Clippers making that trade.
We easily win by a large margin, plus they already have Martin. I say Haywood would make’s the most sense, because long term I think he could play the same role he played when Dallas had he and Chandler, who we compare McGee to often. Also by the time the team option comes into play J Wall will just be getting out of his rookie contract, and with his contract if we wait till the offseason when Dallas will be looking to shed money we could possibly get a 1st round pick . #Long term resolutions
I think they would
Yeah Kenyon Martin is still an “okay” defender, but he is a lot slower, at the very best average on rebounding, and he has no offensive game. Blatche at the very least can score and he’d be getting set up by the best point guard in the NBA. He can play both of the big positions and has it in him to defend and rebound. He is a hell of a lot better than the alternatives of the Clippers. They need a big off the bench and even now he is better than Ryan Gomes.
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Simply put
Griffin would never be able to get a break, and I also forgot they have Evans as well. I cannot see Blatche playing Center that baffles me everytime someone brings that up.
I think backup C is where he gets his best advantage.
Slower guys who don’t run the court well. Dray can keep up
Limited on offense. Dray’s horrible defense can be hidden
Slow feet. Dray’s agility game might actually work.
Wally's World
by forthepeople on Feb 28, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
I like the Lakers, Mavericks and Suns deal
The Mavericks is the most realistic deal I think.
With re-signing McGee and adding Haywood, we can focus on a perimeter player in the draft. Hopefully we are able to get a second lottery pick by trading a few of our youngsters for a pick and a bad contract or two (Vesely, Crawford and Seraphin for Ariza, Okafor and Minnie’s first, anyone?) and get Barnes + Gillchrist.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 7:04 AM EST up reply actions
On the other hand, tall guys really bother his shots
Then again, it might be for the better if he’s discouraged from shooting.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Feb 28, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
BRING BACK BRENDEN
Would you rather have Brenden or Blatche, just player vs. player? I’ll take Brenden. He’s big, he plays defense and communicates on defense. He is a veteran with decent Bball IQ. He doesn’t put up with crap. It’s a no brainer for me. Brenden. We drafted him. Let’s get him back.
If it was 1:1 with Blatche
I’d go Haywood for sure. Their contracts are pretty similar
We'd give you Walton, although probably not Blake.
Maybe if we got Sessions, but otherwise, no, considering that any more minutes that Derek Fisher plays is excruciating torture. If you want McBobs, you guys would have to give something of value. Young is probably too much to ask for though unless you guys don’t care about losing him.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. -- Sun Tzu
Yeah and Walton + a first for Young too
Maybe McRoberts, Walton and a first (and/or one of Ebanks, Caracter, Goudelock) for Blatche + Young?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 7:08 AM EST up reply actions
That's reasonable.
Caracter got waived, but you probably can have one of Morris, Goudelock, or Ebanks along with McBobs and Walton for Blatche and Young.
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Would you be willing to use your trade exception to get him?
We’d probably even be willing to throw in filler like Mack (who’s been fairly productive and does this weird thing where he seems to know what he’s doing on the court) or possibly even Singleton if we could get back a pick for him.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Feb 28, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
You'd probably have to give us a piece like Singleton for the TPE since it's our main way of improving.
And we wouldn’t take Blatche back without a bad deal like Walton’s (which really isn’t that bad anymore given that he’ll be expiring next year).
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golden state
blatche and mcgee for biedrens and their #1? what do you think?
Don't do it
We need to hold onto McGee. Especially if we can dump Blatche and not resign Nick Young. I really think it would be in DC’s best interest to have a whole offseason for McGee that doesn’t involve those 2 longtime corners of the bonehead trifecta. I’m of the opinion that the sooner we get rid of NY&AB the sooner we see McGee make the leap. If his entire career here is spent tied up with Nick & Blatche and we let him go, we’re going to end up feeling really dumb about it. We’re not going to get anyone who plays the 5 as well as McGee at that point in the draft and the FA options are pretty weak. If we l
I agree
Essentially McGee for a mid-first is a bad deal.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Feb 28, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
even if...
we have to give him 40 mill this offseason? and they are on track for 8th or 9th pick. could be looking at sullinger and davis/drummond as the front line of the future. amnesty rashard and your at 25mill on pay roll (let nick walk)- plus 5mill for 1st, 3mll for 8/9, 1mill for 2nd rounder, so we’re at 34. throw 8 or 9 a year at batum and we still got 16 mill! how about mayo and brandon bass?
wall/mack
mayo/crawford
batum/singleton/ves
sullinger/bass/booker
davis/biedrens/seraphin
That sounds nice, but it is not realistic
First of all, it assumes we get the #1 pick to replace McGee with. Not likely since even if we would have the worst record, there still is a 75% chance we don’t get the #1 and a 50% we fall to #3. Davis goes #1 no doubt.
Second, I don’t think Sullinger or Robinson for that matter will drop to 8 or 9. Especially now that both Drummond and GilChrist have said they will not go pro.
Amnestying Rashard is dumb since we only owe him $10m if we don’t pick up the team option. It’s better to amnesty Blatche’s remaining 3yrs/$28m and either waive or trade Lewis.
Fourth: anything $9m or under Portland will surely match since he’s restricted. Even if Portland doesn’t, don’t you think another team will offer $8 to $9m? And if he he could chose between any other team than the Wizards, not named the bobcats or hornets, don’t you think he would rather play for them?
Fith, practically any contending team can use Bass. We’d have to grosly overpay him to convince him to come here on free will. I am talking $10m +
Finally, Mayo has been on the block for a long time. However, they never pulled the trigger despite they got noumerous good offers I asume. He also seems to be back in the good grace of the franchise and is playing a major role for them now.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
Random Thought
It’s time we start getting guys that play with the H&H (Head and Heart) syndrome. Potential will get you fired in a league baseed on production. give me some psycho T’s on this team. That is all.
Heh, good thought
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 7:08 AM EST up reply actions
what if we throw max money for 2 years to garnett?
any chance he signs? teach these guys to grow up and play basketball? skills arent worth the money but he could change the losing mentality.
The more I've thought about it I would love to add Ray and Garnett
Garnett is a two for one, great big man coach and a great vet in the locker room.
How much would it cost? I figure we have to offer at least double mid level exemption.
I would easily be willing to give both 10 Mil a year for two years. Maybe go as far as 3rd year player option for 5 mil.
With the youngest roster in the NBA and another top pick its time to pay for some vets.
Wally's World
by forthepeople on Feb 28, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
Get me Anthony Davis and this becomes a great idea
But Garnett has too much pride to come here. Probs same with Allen
I'd love it but I agree that they would both not wan't too
OKC might want to add either Allen or both in a trade for Thabo, Ibaka and Aldrich or something like that. Westbrook, Allen, Durant, Garnett and Perkins is an upgraded Celtics 08 team with Harden as a 6th man.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 7:11 AM EST up reply actions
Doubt Boston would do it
With Rondo as their only building block, I don’t think Ibaka is really the kind of player they’re looking for as their 2nd starter. Plus Thabo,Ibaka&Aldrich are only about 75% of Ray-Ray’s salary.
Now it’d be interesting if Boston inexplicably wanted Perkins instead of Ibaka- presumably to placate Rondo (Something which I feel will be happening a lot in the near future, to increasingly hilarious results)
But then Ainge would have traded Perkins for nothing and then pay massively to get him back...
Green is out for this season at least and probably can’t start practice again well into the off season, plus he’s an unrestriced FA.
Ainge pays him around $6m this year for not playing and it costed him Perkins to get him… Than you suggests he coughes up Rondo to get him back? Oh boy.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
this implies ernie actually is making an effort to do something
how could a team be this bad for this long and be so inactive in making deals year after year … between blatche, young, mcgee, lewis and the team’s cap space, there have to be deals out there to make … if nothing else, at least change the horrible makeup of this team
by wizfan2247 on Feb 28, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lamar Odom
is trying to get out of Dallas (as is being speculated).
So we trade Blatche for Odom. Then Odom pulls a Bibby, i.e. leaves money on the table in a buyout, because there’s no way he wants to play here, and returns to LA.
In case the contracts don’t add up, we throw in NY and get a 1st rounder back.
I like the Bullets
Bibby, Gooden, Z...
We hardly knew any of ye…
Blatche to Dallas, Odom to DC… followed by Lakers first rounder, Blake and Luke for Odom and Young…
And Voila…
Dallas doesn't do it because cap space is more valuable to them
They’re angling to hit both D12 and DWilliams in the FA market. They’re looking to move Marion for either an expiring or a damn small contract – if they do that, they can probably offer enough to get both of the big fish. So yeah, they aren’t adding salary past this year.
Yep. Dwight+Dwill+Dirk is the reason why they let Chandler, Butler and Barea Walk
Forget double D, let’s go for a bigger rack of tripple D’s!!
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Dallas would be willing to do something built around Haywood/Odom for Turiaf/Blatche
I actually think BWood’s been fine for them, but if they’re going all in for Howard, something like:
Haywood/Beaubois or a draft pick/Marion
for Blatche/Turiaf/filler
might work for them from a cap perspective. We could then either amnesty Haywood or Rashard if we decide we need free agents at some point, too, plus Dallas would have less committed salary. Dray might thrive in Dallas, too, since they have a relatively strong culture of veterans and Cuban’s stats people might be able to figure out a good way to use him.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Feb 28, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions
Can that filler be Crawford? Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaase.....
I hate his game
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 28, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
How bout packaging Blatche with Shard
You’d have to find the equivalent of $30m in return, but this gets somebody else to pay Shard’s $10m buyout. You know Ted doesn’t want to pay that.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Feb 28, 2012 12:01 PM EST reply actions
$30 million?
Maybe Turkoglu, QRich, Nelson and JRich, for AB and Young.
That way Blatche can play with Dwight and have Anderson and Davis back them up ánd they could go out and sign Batum while keeping Lewis as a backup platoon with Earl Clark. With Duhon and Reddick as backups they can sign Brooks (he is in China this yr), or Felton or trade their first + Orton, Liggins and Harper for Nash.
Why we would do it, you say? Because we have a briljant GM who thinks we can use the veteran leadership.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Deal can't get done
There’s nobody who wants AB straight up for another bad contract. The only way is to package him, but that would mean a pick or Ves or Seraphin. I don’t see that happening.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Feb 28, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions
Blatche, Ves ánd Seraphin for Diaw and their top 3 protected #1?
It would sadly make us a better team even if the Bobcats get the #1 pick.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 29, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
There should be little problem with keeping Blatche,
as long as he never, or hardly ever, plays. Our problem has been playing him with the pipe dream in our minds that he might show enough to make some team entertain him as a trade piece. But the reality is, he’s so horrible that’s not going to happen. So just sit him, it’s not like his mere presence is a poison. It’s his bad example as a player that’s poison.
I agree
He’s 6’11. He’s an serviceable backup center. If he ever learned some shot selection, he might even be productive. 6’11 basketball players are like left-handers who throw 95. Don’t pay to give him away.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Feb 28, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Why waste all this time speculating on who will take this guy off our hands? He’s worth nothing. Keep him and bring him off the bench. If he doesn’t like it and wants to start, he can work harder and become a starter or play well enough to get traded.
Yes, AND
I’d trade him for Biedrins, slightly more overpaid for less years, but a better backup than Blatche without the poison. McGee, too, if we get a quality starter in return. They still like to pan for gold out there in Golden State.
by Tbonebullets on Feb 28, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Biedrins is a poison
You know how Jan won’t shoot unless he’s right under the basket? Biedrins has been in the league for 10 years and he’s so terrified of shooting free throws that he doesn’t even want to touch the ball anymore. His teammates apparently hate him now because he can’t grasp that they don’t care if he misses the shots, he just has to take him. From a young rookie like Jan it’s fixable, from a vet like Biedrins who was once a decent offensive player, it’s just bizzare.
I’m not sure if I’d give up McGee for anybody on GS. Ellis’ contract is really friendly though.
Change of scenery might be good
He still gets good stats other than ft.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Feb 28, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Blatche+Vesely+McGee for Gortat and Childress anyone?
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