Wizards Vs. Suns Preview: Meet Steve Nash And The Randomly Rising And Sinking Suns
The Phoenix Suns are an interesting case. Despite the #FreeNash movement embraced by the national media, the Suns have taken the polar opposite approach to rebuilding, retaining franchise PG Steve Nash, The Small-Market Saint. The Suns can lose to and beat anybody. They win more often than the Wizards do ... just not that much more often.
Want a closer look? Stare into the Suns with me...
Are they good in general? Last night's gut check to Kobe Bryant and Co. snapped a four game losing streak, improving the record to 13-19. So you could say they're the Timberwolves without much of a future. But that's unfair, because this team has quality reserves forced into starting roles and a good-to-great Center. Toss in an All-Star or two to help on the wings and they'd be right in the thick of the chase. So no, they're not very good. Even if Alvin Gentry chooses to mention the playoffs.
Are they good against the Wizards? The teams haven't played each other this season, but the Suns usually hold serve on their home court. If Channing Frye goes off again, I'm going to drive my car off an overpass. Via offramp, having used my turn signal in a safe and legal fashion. But I'll be emo inside.
Are they fast or slow? Well...they're the Suns. Their pace factor sits above league average at a healthy 94.5, but the Suns have never been a team you run off the floor. Shannon Brown, Jared Dudley, Michael Redd, Markieff Morris and Channing Frye can all shoot the three in transition, and with Josh Childress showing signs of emerging from his post-Grecian chrysalis, Nick Young definitely won't be enough to stop any bleeding in the transition game on his own, not to mention Zombie Grant Hill. The Wizards must be better in this area, as Mike noted. The Suns' crowd is always great, and if fast-break buckets start falling, the arena noise will be beating against our team's mental toughness.
Are they especially good at anything? God save the King. It's Steve Nash and Marcin Gortat (who's been playing at an All-Star level) running the high pick and roll as well as any tandem in the league. Good luck to John Wall and JaVale McGee. This is as tough a test as any they'll face this season against a team looking to maintain positive momentum coming off an emotional win last night against the Lakers. Also, Markieff Morris is capable of carrying the team for short stretches while the starters are resting.
Are they especially bad at anything? Channing Frye is still launching four 3-point shots a game despite making only a bit better than one. It's the Suns, so their defense is surrendering assisted buckets and a true shooting percentage similar to the Wizards. This game is going to be all about winning matchups and making the hustle plays.
Are there any people involved with the organization that Derek really likes? I'm going to gloss over Markieff Morris (more on him in a moment) to mention Jared Dudley. A solid reserve on a playoff team, he makes threes at a respectable clip, plays solid defense, doesn't foul and makes his free throws (when he deigns to get to the line). This is kind of guy we love to overvalue. But if I could grab one guy...Marcin Gortat. I don't need to go into that, do I?
Are there any people involved with the organization that Derek really doesn't like? Channing Frye shoots threes and doesn't make them. What else does he do? Not much. His TS% has dipped every year in Phoenix and recently signed an Andray Blatche-like contract. Ouch.
Are there any players poised for a breakout? Gortat exploded last night, so let's look at Markieff. He's been getting some ink and is in the Rising Stars Challenge, so he's not an unknown. Even in a game like last night against L.A. where he shot 2-11 from the field, he carried the Suns in the second quarter, scoring 10 points and snagging six rebounds. Morris recently requested to come off the bench where he can be featured more prominently (starting while Nash and Gortat run the high pick and roll led to his production dropping off a cliff), and if he gets an opportunity against the Wizards, he will put the pedal to the metal.
Are there any players the Wizards especially need to worry about? Remember Grant Hill? I hope Jan Vesely is watching closely. The way Grant Hill makes his own opportunities by filling in the cracks defensively is exactly where we want to see Jan getting his points. Hill doesn't take the fast-break off, and if any of our guys get lazy in the transition game, Hill will make them pay.
And Steve Nash is pretty good.
Is their mascot cool? The Phoenix Suns Gorilla practically has his own TV show. I think this is the only mascot I've ever seen that I'd have to get my picture taken with. Why? Because it's the freaking Phoenix Suns Gorilla. Any questions?
Any other random quirks: Expect to hear about when Gilbert Arenas was cut from Team USA and vowed to annihilate the Suns. He proceeded to drop 54 when the teams met next and we'll hear about what an explosion that was. Then, some variation of 'John Wall is a young man with a bright future ahead of him.' Then, the announcers will use the word aggressive or impatient, depending on John's shooting percentage thus far.
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“The Suns can lose to and beat anybody.” I’m putting all my hopes into the first part of that sentence! Let’s finish this road trip on a positive note! Would be awesome! Go Wizards!!
I love the mention of present day Hill as a guy for Vesely to watch
That’s really insightful.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Feb 20, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks :)
I watch the Suns most after DC, and the comparison just kind of slipped out and I slowed down for a second and thought, ‘Oh…yeah!’ That’s going to deserve some more attention in the offseason after Jan has put in a complete body of work
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 20, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Vesely aspiring to be the 96yr old version of Grant Hill?
Let’s keep our hopes for him higher than that!
They are
We’re not talking about Jan’s endgame, just a model to emulate. Something similar to what he’s doing now but with the consummate veteran’s panache that will only make him better going forward. And there are far worse upsides than what Grant Hill is doing. There’s a reason his play was in high demand just a few short months ago.
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fine write-up
Kudos to the Polish Hammer, the Polish Eagle is proud of you. If only you could have gotten the insurance to cover you playing for the National team last summer!
Wizards have their work cut our from them. Guys, I hope your desire to win the road trip runs up against a possible Suns’ let down after kicking the Lakers around.
PS the Suns are a very reasonable trading partner for the Wizards. Would not mind if Childress became a butterfly in Red White and Blue (love the Greek chrysalis allusion).
Childress' contract is still a killer...
Phoenix paid what we weren’t willing to…it would be a little like the Magic reacquiring Turk on the deal they didn’t want to pay…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 20, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Much rather have
Markieff spread 4.
Dudley 3D
Channing Frye’s deal isn’t bad. If they want to make room for more minutes going to Markieff he’d be the guy to move.
And Frye's deal is 5 years, $30 million
Dray’s 5 years, $34, not much difference, there
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 20, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he has 19.2M left over 3 years, the last being a player option for 6.8. Frye has a better 3 point shot, although his % is down this year. He fits as a stretch 4 better than Dray.
by Jheiser3 on Feb 20, 2012 7:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oye
A deadly top of the key P-a-R with sharpshooters on the wings, including their 4. Awesome. I’ve seen this one before…
Grant Hill is one of “those guys”. And by that I mean a guy who I would overpay for one year to play here and act as a mentor to these players. We can use his play, sure, but as a mentor he’d be invaluable. He also carries clout that Roger Mason and Mo Evans simply can’t. Now insert the feel-good story about him ending his basketball career in the same metropolitan area that he played high school ball in… Plus his pops is still in DC area for part of the year. Like I said, we’d have to overpay, maybe even talk about his post-playing life and minority ownership to entice him into it. Still worth it IMO, even for a dookie.
by Jheiser3 on Feb 20, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tough sell for GH...
December 9
Arizona Republic
“Grant Hill is still Suns swingman Grant Hill. Hill agreed today to re-sign with the Suns for a one-year, $6.5 million contract. The Suns increased the offer from $5 million to $6.5 million on Thursday with Hill being pursued by New York, Chicago, San Antonio and the Los Angeles Clippers. The Spurs offered him two years and the Clippers offered him more money but the Knicks’ and Bulls’ one-year offers were tempting because of the quality of teams and Hill’s relationship with Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni.”
via Pro Sports Daily
He may be cheaper next year…but probably going to have itch for a ring…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 20, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah
but thats what Ted is best at. The Sell. The offer would have to be two-fold. It has to monetarily best what others want to pay, up to 8M or more. Say 4M for his minutes and 4M to help show these kids what being a man in the NBA is all about. We know some of these guys grew up without fathers in the home. Some didn’t have good role models even if there was a father figure there. Grant is still a decent player but in the locker room he’s so much more. The role also has to be incredibly substantive and forward-thinking in scope. Ted would have to sell Grant on this being the first step in the rest of his life.
And it could still fall on deaf ears if he has no aspirations to coach or own a piece of a franchise. He may want to take a year before diving into politics, NGO work etc. He can do whatever he wants. The world is probably better off with Grant working elsewhere. If he truly wanted a ring more than all else he wouldn’t still be playing in the desert.
by Jheiser3 on Feb 20, 2012 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, off to the game
I’ll be the bald guy in the red washington basketball shirt
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 20, 2012 7:04 PM EST reply actions
Pure brilliance!
If Channing Frye goes off again, I’m going to drive my car off an overpass. Via offramp, having used my turn signal in a safe and legal fashion.
May I use this as a sig BNE?
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
Absolutely!
I followed through on my threat :/
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 21, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
So.... what seems to be the officer.....problem? ;-)
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 21, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I love that mascot
Next to (homerism alert) Chief Z and Sebastian the Ibis, the Phoenix Gorilla is the greatest mascot in sports. I mean, why the heck can’t G-Wiz jump off a trampoline through a flaming ring for a slam-dunk? Because he’s not the Phoenix Gorilla that’s why.
If Gortat played for the Knicks the whole country would be talking about Marcin-sanity.
by MR on Feb 20, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Pekomania would be more appropriate
that guy is really on a tear

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