If the wiz get the #1 pick would you consider trading down?
I know that kid Anthony Davis is getting a lot of hype and attention, but personally I think that if this team gets that first pick they should trade down with a team that has 2 lottery picks like New Orleans.
Now there are many reasons I think this. The first reason is that Davis is a defensive specialist, and he lacks much of an offensive game. This team badly needs players who can score.
So in my opinion if they actually get the first pick, they should trade down and try to draft a pair of players who would fill the need on offense like Jeremy Lamb, Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, and Thomas Robinson. The main reasons I'd do this type of trade is because this team needs guys like these who can execute in the half court. The way Ernie Grunfield has drafted in 2010 and 2011 was not executed that great because he didn't really get guys who would fit well in the half court. I think with better half court players Wall would maximize his potential. Like for example when he was at KU he had DMC as his sidekick and his ability to get it done in the half court helped Wall shine.
Anthony Davis has potential to be a great player in the league, but he pretty much does the same things as McGee.
This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.
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I could see that happening because of the CP3 trade
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by everybodylookin on Feb 2, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
i agree
Just like stern did for Cleveland
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 2, 2012 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They still have more talent than us.
Anthony Davis would actually fit good with them. I personally dont think Davis will be any good in the league, and I would opt for Perry Jones, but either of them will fit in NO. Okafor is a big body and would cover up for their lankyness. They have some talent on the perimeter with EG, Ariza, and Al-Farouq is young although I havent been following him so I dont know how he has been developing.
If they take either Perry or Davis neither of them will have to play extended minutes because of Carl Landry. If they get either of them the only pressing need will be a starting two and they will have a decent team.
Have you watched Anthony Davis play?
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Good thinking
Ted should hire you as a consultant because he wouldn’t hear this sort of thinking from EG.
by Izman on Feb 3, 2012 6:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I would only consider it if the Wiz still came away with a top 5 pick
We really could use any of the top players available. If we can get two of the top 10 (preferrably proven scorers), I would consider it a win.
Wall definitely needs a wingman
That is something that I dont believe we have on the team at this point.
Davis so damn skinny!
I mean he really looks like a player (have only seen him twice though), but geez how many yeras before he is any sort of real force in the nba and will it only be a defensive force? I can see why they would draft him regardless, but if moves arent made to get some gradeA shooters in here as well then next season will likely be disastrous too.
"KU"?
I can’t take the analysis seriously, when the writer didn’t recognize that Wall played at “UK” (University of Kentucky) and not “KU” (Kansas University).
Only
Only do it if there are too pretty high picks to be had, like 3 and 5-6-7. I’m not moving a blue chip pick for 6 and 11.
yeah
New Orleans will likely have a top 3 pick cause they’re awful and the Minnesota pick will most likely be around 6-9.
I personally think drafting Sullinger/Lamb or Barnes/Robinson would instantly help this team’s offense in the half court.
STRAIGHT CASH HOMIE
by everybodylookin on Feb 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think it should be a priority for the ‘Zards to get at least two top-10 picks and at least another 1 pick in the lottery. Coming away with Andre Drummond, Thomas Robinson, and Jeremy Lamb would be worth giving away almost everyone on the roster. Kevin Love was really the only guy I thought would be a good fit to pursue as a RFA, but now that he is off the table I think they should dive head-first into acquiring high draft picks. Imagine rolling out a lineup of Wall-Lamb-Vesely/Singleton-Robinson-Drummond with Crawford & Booker off the bench. I would gladly give up McGee, Seraphin, N’Diaye, Singleton/Vesely, and take on 2 or 3 bad contracts to make that happen.
Why don't we just get 5 lottery picks while we're at it?
by mrmadrew on Feb 3, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Depends on who declares (it probably won't be everyone)
but if a superstar is available, no we take that superstar.
I'm not sold on the consensus top 2 picks (Davis & Drummond) being superstars
STRAIGHT CASH HOMIE
by everybodylookin on Feb 3, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Drummond is overrated at the moment...
He needs to go back and refine his game…
Given where he is (UConn)
he is likely to stay at least one more year if Calhoun thinks he needs that year. If he was at UK or Ohio State…. diff story
I think he declares
He said he’s returning, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG
Agree he may be underated
I saw some of his highlights, and was not that impressed. Think he would be better served staying in school for at least another year, hit the weights, learn the game a little better, then dominate…
by TheRealBigMike on Feb 3, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I feel pretty good
about the future of this team’s talent level if this organization stays as high as they possibly can in the draft and trusts “the consensus” top choices. And that includes Anthony “Stays Cool and Has a Super Attitude” Davis.
I would not feel so good about this organization future talent level if it trades down and trusts its own judgement in lower draft positions. Even if they have more than one of them.
Does that make sense? I mean even in an actual, practical sense.
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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
I wouldn't do it.
I’d draft Davis and sign the best free agent sf/ scorer I can find.
Davis appears to be game changer, he’s probably the best post defender from college since Alonzo Mourning. Haven’t seen all his games, but he looked good offensively against Tennessee this week.
by Espresso on Feb 3, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As would I.
I’d draft Davis and sign the best free agent sf/ scorer I can find.
This is exactly what I would try to do.
Plus Davis appears to have a fantastic attitude.
He plays at both:
- A very high level
- A very even keel
What’s not to want? This team needs to swing for a home-run. What is this big desire to try and trade down to hit two more doubles? Of course Davis is not a guaranteed star… who the hell is? He is a developing a fairly strong consensus as worth the pick, though.
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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
Ant Davis > McGee + Vesely
Ant Davis plays man-to-man defense no problem, blocks shots by waiting for the shooter to commit, handles the ball like a guard (he was one), willingly passes for the assist, and is a HIGH ENERGY player. If the Wizards draft him, the Wiz be able to trade either McGee or Vesely or both. He may not be the next Kevin Durant, but he perhaps would be a more phyiscal and defense-minded version of Tony Kucoc.
by LotteryNot2Day on Feb 3, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Kukoc was more a perimeter player
I don’t know much about Davis, but Kukoc was more a Hedo-type point forward (though better than Hedo ever was). Can Davis play the 3 in the pros?
Name one occasion in NBA history where trading the #1 pick for lower picks has been a good move
I can’t for certain say that it has never happened, though, so correct me if I am wrong.
In any event, if the Wizards are ever going to pull this sort of move, I don’t want Grunfeld being the one to do it. He’d do it because he would have his eye on some project tweener forward with long arms available with a lower pick.
Pre.
Cise.
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The Wizards are much safer going with the consensus at the top. Nothing will be a sure thing, but the odds could be tipped in the right direction this draft.
No monkey business with a high, high pick. Having a terrible season needs to count for something.
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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young
One that didn't happen!
NBA draft 2001
If Wiz had traded No. 1 pick (Kwame Brown), that trade might have produced multiple picks that could resulted in 2, maybe 3, solid players from the likes of Tyson Chandler (2. L.A. Clippers), Pau Gasol (3. Atlanta, Rights traded to Memphis), Jason Richardson (5. Golden State), Shane Battier (6. Grizzlies), DeSagana Diop (8. Cleveland), Joe Johnson (10. Boston), Vladimir Radmanovic (12. Seattle), Richard Jefferson (13. Houston, Rights traded to New Jersey), Troy Murphy (14. Golden State), Jason Collins (18. Houston, Rights traded to New Jersey), Zach Randolph (19. Portland), Brendan Haywood (20. Cleveland, Rights traded to Orlando), Gerald Wallace (25. Sacramento), Samuel Dalembert (26. Philadelphia), Tony Parker (28. San Antonio)
Of course, that means the Wiz front office needed to be a better judge of future performance than what occurred!
by LotteryNot2Day on Feb 4, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair Brown was the consensus number 1 pick
EVERYONE would have taken him
by Llamaman on Feb 4, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
from the chicago tribune
“Unfortunately, a lot of the good stuff Michael did get glossed over,” [Doug] Collins said. “I think people look at it and say, ‘They drafted Kwame Brown and traded Rip Hamilton.’ But I was there when the draft was going on that year, and Kwame Brown was the consensus No. 1 pick by so many of the teams. I can tell you our phones were ringing off the hook, people trying to trade to get to that No. 1 pick.”
that is correct.
it is possible kwame may have done a little better beginning with another team, but his initial work ethic/attitude would have been exposed quickly. If we picked Pau Gasol instead, Jordan would have been shown the door that day.
from USA TODAY
‘The Washington Wizards entertained a number of offers for the first pick in Wednesday’s NBA draft, but Michael Jordan was so captivated by Kwame Brown’s skills that he turned them all down. “We don’t know what he is capable of doing, and we don’t know when to expect dividends, but it became apparent after we saw him work out that he has the skills and desire,” Jordan said.’
by LotteryNot2Day on Feb 5, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
from ESPN.com
“A number of teams are split among their coaches, general managers, scouts, player personal directors and owners as to who to pick. And there are no consensus impact players.”
Link: http://a.espncdn.com/nba/draft2001/s/2001/0625/1218424.html
I also recall similar opinions being expressed in the Washington Post and Baltimore Sun, as well as the talking heads on the TV sports reports of the day. Another thought at the time was that the Wizards were not big on drafting international players, certainly not one (Pau Gasol) at No.1.
by LotteryNot2Day on Feb 5, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Kwame was not the consensus #1- all three were loved for different reasons
It was a three ring circus. Chandler had the most experience, Curry was physically the safer bet, and kwame offered the most interesting upside with his combination of size and athleticism
by les boulez bomber on Feb 6, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, It was a long time ago, but for the sake of arguement...
In 1980, the Celtics had the 1st and 13th overall picks and traded them to Golden State for Robert Parish and the 3rd overall pick (Kevin McHale)….
by TheRealBigMike on Feb 6, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
As long as Ernie's not doing the picking, I'll be happy
How many GMs have had three lottery picks in the last three years? Probably not too many because most owners aren’t as patient with failure as Ted and Abe Pollin. Ernie’s record should be judged, in large measure, on his three lottery decisions. On that score, it’s hard to give Ernie a grade of better than C, with Wall being the only clear-cut talent we acquired. Vesely? He might be an o.k. player in three or four years but he’s certainly not off to an impressive start. The Miller/Foye trade? The less said about that the better.
Many here are critical of the OKC model because it relied on getting lucky in the lottery & draft several years in a row. Well, regardless of the merits of what OKC did, shouldn’t three lottery picks in a row bring in more building blocks than Ernie acquired?

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