Washington Wizards vs. Detroit Pistons: Regular Season Game 28 Open Thread
by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 4:40 PM EST
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| 2011/12 NBA Regular Season | ||
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| 8-20 | 5-22 | |
| February 12, 2012 |
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| Palace at Auburn Hills |
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| 6 PM | ||
| CSN | ||
| Starters: | ||
| Brandon Knight |
PG | John Wall |
| Rodney Stuckey | SG | Nick Young |
| Tayshaun Prince |
SF | Chris Singleton |
| Jason Maxiell |
PF | Trevor Booker |
| Greg Monroe |
C | JaVale McGee |
UPDATE, by Mike: I was tardy on my Meet The Pistons post. Here it is.
Somewhere in the deep catacombs of the NBA League office there is some twisted schedule maker who insists every year that a Pistons-Wizards early Sunday game takes place. I'm not sure what obsession this individual has with ruining my Sundays, but Rodney Stuckey has spent the last few years ensuring that I went to work the next day feeling rather aggrieved at the world in general. This marks the start of the Wizards long road swing and perhaps their best chance to earn a win during the trip. Unfortunately, they find themselves going up against a Pistons team that is on current four game winning streak and plays significantly better at home than on the road.
For Wizards fans, this is a chance to get to see Greg Monroe again and check in on his development, as the Pistons are a team like the Wizards that tend to fly under the radar on many League pundits. Unlike the Wizards, however, the Pistons seem poised to be a team that is stuck in the mire for the long haul. Still anchored to the Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon contracts, and having given silly money to Rodney Stuckey, they are a sub-average team tied to a variety of bloated contracts. Using the amnesty on either Villanueva or Gordon only gets them out of one crappy contract, and I haven't even gotten into the money that Joe Dumars has handed out to Jonas Jerebko or perennial Wizards killer Will Bynum. In short, its probably more painful at the moment to be a Pistons fans than a Wizards fan, because at least we "might" have options.
Irrationality states that the Pistons win tonight because Bynum or one of his nameless stablemates will light us up and make us question our sanity in following the Wizards. I prefer to think that the Wizards are due, and that we are going to see a team desperate for a win prior to the long losing streak which may yet follow.
GO WIZARDS!!!!
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Anyone watching the bulls game?
Cause one of the announcers just asked if the wizards can get banned from national tv cause they didn’t do anything to deserve it.
by oakhillswag on Feb 12, 2012 4:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Did anyone just hear Jeff van Gundy on espn
Rip the wizards? He asked if the wiz could be banned from national tv. What a dickish comment
by jsuh0 on Feb 12, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
what about charlotte? or new orleans?
but this is why losing with players who tend to do silly things is worse than just losing. easy target.
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Feb 12, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's probably
Not allowed to say anything negative about New Orleans bc of Stern owning that team
by jsuh0 on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I suppose he won't be in the running for Head Coach of the Wizards this Summer, then.....
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
He raises a legitimate point thought
why SHOULD we be on national TV?
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 12, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sad but true
wiz kids play the worst team basketball in the entire nba, but still will watch every game…..
I'm glad they're not on national TV much
at least nobody is calling me long distance to tell me how terrible the team is
JVG
So random..hope he gets the memo mike
by wizkid4life on Feb 12, 2012 4:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey Jeff.....
Do you want to Coach again?
Disparaging losing teams (read: teams looking for their next Coach) – is probably not a good interview tactic….
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
I can't imagine many coaches who would volunteer to coach this outfit.
to be honest.
by Marine4Life51 on Feb 12, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Not many can get the same type of pay anywhere else.
Plus it’s in their blood.
Don't think Jeff really wants to coach again
by Mike Prada on Feb 12, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe not...
but closing doors, and burning bridges is not a good way to go through life…..
No matter what you may “want” to do with your future…….
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
burning bridges?
i think your ‘life lessons’ angle regarding a tv commentator is a bit heavy handed. Good for youngsters, not relevant to JVG whatsoever.
I think it says in his ESPN contract
as well as all analysts/commentators for them:
Be as Controversial and/or Critical as possible
Basically, it’s his job to make that comment.
by gray16 on Feb 12, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He makes obnoxious comments all the time....a bit annoying for me
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Really like him.
You can’t please ’em all . . .
Isn't Jeff a "slow it down" type of coach anyway
Isn’t that why he and Francis didn’t really mix. I kind of see a lot of similarities in John Wall and Steve Francis tbh. Both had/have bad jumpers early in their careers, both extremely quick, both like to push the pace, both have big ego’s (Francis a little worse though). If he and Francis couldn’t work, I don’t think he and John would work tbh.
The thing abt JVG is that never lets a Wiz nat'tv schedule get past him
he’s done this every single time we get one, even if its NBATV. And the funny thing is, had it been detriot, or toronto he wouldnt of said anything abt it
Not sure why
but the Wizards have really raised the ire of all of the national TV commentators. Hey, we’re better than Charlotte and New Orleans, but we’re the one they hammer. It may have something to do with the owners of Charlotte and New Orleans.
its because Charlotte and New Orleans dont have the human blooper reel that is JaVale McGee.
by Alpha_Snail on Feb 12, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They also don't have a talent like Wall
I think a lot of it is out of frustration that a team with a former No. 1 pick is so bad.
by Mike Prada on Feb 12, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Im crazy excited for this game
We got a team where our number 1 option is Nick Young, who as truthaboutit stated, “Young is shooting 35.5 percent from deep this season, his lowest mark since his sophomore season (34.1 percent)”. Our offense is all isolation and John cant break down the D cuz theres no screen to be set.
Should be fun
The Wiz show up every 4or 5 games
Its embarrassing anyways
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Monroe and Knight vs Wall and Booker...a good measuring stick for us right now
they should win bec of the rest of their supporting cast, but I like our odds…especially knowing they won four in a row and this is our first and easiest game on a big road trip
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions
The Wizards are ridiculed because they have such poor
Fundamentals. They have a low bball IQ. and therefore they are an easy target, they are really frustrating and those things combined are annoying for basketball aficionados I would assume.
I don’t blame any annaylyst that wants to give it to these professionals. Maybe it will shame them into being better basketball players. I mean all I have to say is Dre Blatche, McGee, JCraw= MJ and Nicks spaciness and smh
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by CharGrayJ on Feb 12, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hes gonna tear McGee up
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I wanted Greg Monroe to be an option
for “Who do you fear?”
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I was blown away by how good a season he's having
Is there any big under 23 you’d take over him at this point?
potentially Cousins, but right now, no
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by CharGrayJ on Feb 12, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd much rather have Monroe than Cousins, and I like Cousins
by Mike Prada on Feb 12, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even if Cousins gets his head right?
I guess I haven’t seen Monroe play enough, hes like that?
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and 82% FT to boot
Looking forward to seeing him in action tonight.
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Still not sure why he didn't sign with the Knicks when he could this summer
Backing up Melo and Fields, bring some defensive presence and knock down open shots because everybody is busy double teaming Melo and Stat. He signed for the same money with us as he could have with NY
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 12, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I guess so. Flip wouldn't have hated him or anything though.
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 12, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
No bad matchups for us in this game.
aside from our usual low IQ terrible shot selection selfish no pass offense we should be okay,
Watch Stucky, Knight and Monroe go off
Also, expect any random other player will have a career night.
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What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 12, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
if John Wall gets lit up by Brandon Knight
there’s gonna be a thousand fanposts asking why we have Wall but didn’t draft Knight. Oh boy…
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Just heard something interesting on the Detroit broadcast
If a Detroit player gets a good stop on D, they get to call the next play on O
Funny...
Detroit rewarding defensive stops by letting the players call their own offensive plays
by Aquamaneastfish on Feb 12, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions
I like Nick a lot.
But man, I hate watching him play sometimes. You just know when he’s going to shoot…it’s gotten old at this point…
by DCeee on Feb 12, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nice hook Book
Could have passed to a wide open Javale though
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Uhh, you have a remote control right?
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 12, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Book plays the way we wanted Blatche to play
Back to the basket, strong, attaching
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You can tell Wall takes the matchup serious
He went right at the rim for a selfish play and turned it over after being embarrassed by Knight
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What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
John is making Jordan plays
He is making things more difficult then they should be
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he has the same look as Cousins to me, out on the floor
they just look like you can get in their head
by koop1122 on Feb 12, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol Can we get one of Andrew Bynum and Ron Isley
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Wow these Detroit fans make the Verizon center look like MSG.
by Jordo on Feb 12, 2012 6:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wish JW would slow down and let his bigs
FINISH
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Somehow i think Wall is a LOT smarter in the halfcourt than we may think
just needs a player who can run PnR
Wish we could see more secondary breaks and fewer fast breaks
by Mike Prada on Feb 12, 2012 6:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great play by Wall
He is looking to pass more it seems. I like it.
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What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
That was a horrible possession by Detroit
Prince ignores Monroe in the post, swings to Gordon, who holds it, then just shoots the three anyway.
Heard John say “roll earlier Jan”. Nice communication
by Jordo on Feb 12, 2012 6:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ummmm, no
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Vesesly's positioning has been great this quarter
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
great first quarter!
javale invented the skyhookdunk und ves stuffed the shite out of monroe!
I like the Bullets
Great quarter so far
Pistons giving up a lot of room within 18ft though. It’s like a swish cheese out there. We have not shot a 3pter, everything is coming from within 18ft. they will adjust I think so we need to shoot and hit 1 or 2 3’s in the 2nd
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What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
And I hate Crawford's game
He’s a slow-footed ball-dominant SG who’s a bad decision maker.
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I think Craw 's quickness and change of direction speed
arent slow at all, not even a lil
by KurisuDevil on Feb 12, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Again, I'm saying for a combo guard
Is he as quick as Norris Cole? Jason Terry? Part of the reason he takes tough shots is he’s not quick enough off the dribble to create easier ones.
i think JET's step seems a lot quicker than it is
cuz it usually comes off the 3pt line where guys are chasing to close out him hard
No he's not
Crawford is often stuck dribbling in place because he doesn’t have the quickness to beat his man off the dribble, and he always needs picks to get to where he wants to go. He’s a 1-on-1 player that can’t really get to the rim that well.
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Hated that shot
Playing outside himself
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I know it's not fair
but every time McGee does somethig like that it just makes me angry that he’s not better. Basketball should be so easy for him, and it’s not.
I think I saw JVM set his first NBA screen and roll
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Crawford and Mack not running the offense that well
Time to bring back Wall
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Is that coaching
Or has Mo just been improvising these last few possessions?
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they called an iso for Mo Evans?
does anyone else find that odd?
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 12, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
And also Mo Evans ---> Chris Singleton
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He was committing earlier
it has been off and on tonight
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Along with Mo
Not only are they missing, they aren’t playing within the offense
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Daye and McGee: The long lost cousins
by Bread Lover on Feb 12, 2012 6:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Daye's dad was a Bullet back in the '80s.
Darren Daye
Phil and Buck
It feels weird not listening to Buck and Phil doing the commentating, you know weird in a good way
by NickYoung'sBush on Feb 12, 2012 6:50 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Please Crawford, go find another hobby. Basketball is not really your sport
Maybe you should try tennis, you can play that alone and be the hero on every play
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It really is extra quiet in the Palace
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Its pretty bad
He’s just playing out the string. I dont think he should have come back
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Vesely looking at the rim - hes not shell shocked anymore
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Games like this make me want to keep javale
He’s playing good, smart defense; not trying to do too much on offense… and he’s passing the ball out of the post
But then he’s goes on a brain fart streak…
by Jordo on Feb 12, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yea he's playing well tonight
but he might run off the court for no reason again tomorrow night
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 12, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Just getting back from work...
Listened to the first quarter and some of the second on the radio…
Sounds like Wiz playing good defense… having trouble scoring…
Is that how it looks on the tV screen as well?
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
shooting at a high percentage and moving the ball
but making stupid unforced errors
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Why don't Wall and McGee have more chemistry?
They are made for eachother it seems. If only they perfected the pick and roll, they could be really special duo
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
Because McGee won't commit to his picks
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Crawford really needs to be takemn out for that last shot
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Book with confidence!!!
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Crawford is trying to show off for his family
by Jordo on Feb 12, 2012 6:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sush has been missing a lot of wide open 3s lately...
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anyone think Crawford, Young and Gordon are all essentially the same player>
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Feb 12, 2012 6:58 PM EST reply actions
This whole Wizards
Holding a lead thing has me disoriented
by NickYoung'sBush on Feb 12, 2012 6:58 PM EST via Android app reply actions
JaVale is having a solid game
but Monroe gets position anytime he wants it
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great move by Monroe.
… at least he didn’t get the shot up. Good foul… shouldn’t have had to foul though.
Nice save JaVale, looking like anthony Davis right there!
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Does JaVale even know that Monroe is a lefty?
Doesn’t seem like it. Play him left. He goes there every time.
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Wiz need to cut down on the silly mistakes
That McGee pass should never have been thrown. The team needs to play simple and maximize each possession.
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Yes. Need to be more careful by a lot of the players.
and rebound with both hands.
Wall needs to wait for Vesely to set
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Young is just such an unassuming passer
Tweaked that break slightly by not hitting Wall in stride
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Monroe is no Cousins
ONE rebound through 3 quarters of play.
Yes, but he is not DMC
Monroe is good. We would be lucky to have him.
But stats aside (and they are similar), DMC impacts the game much more. He is the leader of that team. He sets the tone, gives them an identity, and you have to account for him at all times. He can post up AND hit a twenty foot jumper. He is the full package. He is not perfect mind you, but he is the best young center in the game. He is someone you can build a championship team around.
If we had DMC, Wall would keep him in check. And DMC would keep everyone else in check. Pretty much cut the crap we see in half on day one. And that intangible is why he is better than Monroe, even though GM has high bball IQ and is a great passer from the center position.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Bottom line, they both are very good and would help us greatly. Which is why not getting one extra lottery pick for some combination of Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood, Miller and Foye really set us back
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Drafting JV with the #6 pick compounded the mistake
And should cost EG his extension
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Don't agree, honestly
I’d much rather have Monroe – way more efficient, great defensively moving his feet, great moving without the ball. You don’t have to adjust anything you do to fit Monroe in. You do have to adjust your style to fit Cousins in.
And I like Cousins too and both are star-quality, but to me Monroe’s way more suited to the modern NBA.
by Mike Prada on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or Hibbert
both are the types of players I think suit Wall best
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I dont, but I like Hibbert too. JW and DMC could pick and roll a championship with fewer complementary players than any other young center combo. Gtown produces bigs, thats for sure
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
NP, I prefer players that play with Passion. I'd be happy to have either and wouldn't be upset if one was chosen over the other.
I think we should adjust our style anyways. Our half court offensive set blows. DMC is a great PNR center. Perfect for it. He is a championship center. Monroe could be, but he probably will not be the face of the franchise.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
But don't we already have a face of the franchise?
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by qthaballa on Feb 12, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He is as long as he is the best player on the team.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
But DMC and JW are cut from the same cloth. They both are high intensity winners.
If the both were on this team, I think JW would be the face and DMC would be the enforcer.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
and we need an enforcer, be it JW or someone else. He hasnt been able to cut out all the crap yet
it’s not a little thing, AB/JC/JVM/NY putting up 10-15 bad shots a game costs us 10 points a game, maybe more. That translates into a lot more wins
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
And they've only played 2 quarters
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
And McGee only has 2 rebounds as well.....
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
And that's a GOOD thing
for the Wizards
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Bad play on the part of Young and Crawford
and Singletons looks like he has no confidence.
Impressed with how McGee is playing within himself
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Man, we need some new SGs
Both Crawford and Young are slow-footed, ball-dominant SGs that can’t get to the rim consistently. And they’re not reliable shooters.
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I believe we have one on the way this summer
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Missed opportunity to put the Pistons away imo
. I think Javale is doing a great job protecting the paint today and so is Jan. The Pistons miss Rip as a shooter and they really run weird fast breaks.
However, Wiz haven’t capitalized because of their offensive inefficiency. Add in some dumb defensive plays late and somehow this game is tied.
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh
As for the offensive inefficiency
Crawford needs to sit the rest of the game. Just play Evans or Mason and Nick. It;s really getting out of control with that kid.
Vesely is playing a good game but he also passed up some op looks from midrange, he should take those, even if he misses.
Wall has had some good passes but also some unnecessary turnovers.
They have to clean that up in the second half and continue the though defense and generally good rotations. This game is very winnable.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think this would be a great opportunity
to try Mack at the off guard.
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Good call guys, that might be a good Idea.
Especially since he has established the thread of knocking down a 3
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 12, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Have you suggested this during any media seesions?
Whittman hardly seems to play them together and didn’t stick with it long the time I have seen it.
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Yes, in a heart beat. I have been saying that for a while now
and I would test out NY at the three with Mack and Wall. It would cut down on his bad shots alot but take advantage of his usually nice stroke
by les boulez bomber on Feb 12, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Lets keep Jordan Crawford and Mo Evans on the bench for a while
Ok Whittman?
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Yeah, Evans has been gunning more this year than I remember.
Guess he figures we need the O.
I dont understand how Nick Young gets a pass from so many ppl here
and a sophmore player gets treated like a top 5 pick with the scrutiny. Im pretty sure NY took a boatload of awful shots in his sophmore year but ppl werent calling for his head like Craw.
by KurisuDevil on Feb 12, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
ok not even Nick
how abt how time Dray and Javale got. Craw hasnt even been on the team for a full NBA year and yet he gets none of the patience they got
I think this board gave Nick a ton of crap when he was running and gunning his first couple years.
I know I only relaxed even though I liked him as a person when he was super efficient coming off the pick and roll with Saunders.
He's not getting a pass from me
I don’t remember him much in his 2nd year, so I won’t comment on that. But this season, he’s really disappointed me. I thought he would be a much better off-the-ball player than he is right now. I remember him being much better in that area last season. He never runs off screens and jogs instead. He’s strictly a 1-on-1 player that can’t get to the rim because of his very slow 1st step.
One thing I can applaud Crawford for is his heart. He plays with much more heart than NY, but Crawford isn’t very good and I just don’t like him.
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I don't like either of them
but crawford at least can pass. Young is a great shooter, but he’s such a liability otherwise that I have a hard time seeing him as a strong starter for a good team.
Even if he’s disciplined and only shoots coming off screens, he’ll always be a liability because he can’t do anything useful if his shot is denied. That sort of thing matters.
by obeast on Feb 12, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
unfortunately heart isn't quantifiable
shot selection is. And both have shown terrible decision making. It makes the punishment/reward system incredibly difficu
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you dont have to like him
its just crazy how he’s getting the short end of the stick in terms of what everybody on this team has gotten over the years. And its time for change, but still a guy on his rookie contract that isnt a team cancer shouldnt be attacked like this all things considered
by KurisuDevil on Feb 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He really doesn't take that many bad shots
He’s 4/5 and his shots have been good shots, unlike Crawford who is 1/9 with terrible shots. And fines he’s a bad passer, that alone doesn’t make him a dumb player.
He takes a TON of bad shots
especially compared with last year
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he doesn't hit people in stride
makes lazy passes. Becomes a bit shortsighted when he gets the ball,…
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by Sean Fagan on Feb 12, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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