Heat Vs. Wizards Recap: Miami Turns Up Screws In Fourth Quarter For 106-89 Win
The Miami Heat probably thought they could come into Verizon Center and play hard for just one quarter to get a win, and that's exactly what ended up happening. The Heat turned up the screws defensively in the fourth quarter, turning a slim six-point lead after three quarters into a 17-point victory.
This loss wasn't a matter of a lack of effort or even execution. The Wizards simply are too young and have too little talent to compete when the Heat dial up the pressure like they did. There were plenty of Wizards players who had good games in the first three quarters, the kind of performances that the coaching staff could build on going forward. They can choose to accept that and look at this game as a positive despite the score, and I don't think I'd argue too much. Still, the fourth quarter was troubling, as was Miami's ability to coast and turn it on.
I can accept a lot of fan's conclusions of this one. On the one hand, we know this Wizards team isn't as talented as the Heat. On the other hand, this game got out of hand really quickly and exposed the limitations of all of the players on the Wizards' roster, John Wall included. It'll be interesting to see how the organization portrays this loss.
More notes below the jump:
- Great play to begin the game getting JaVale McGee a post-up on the move on Joel Anthony. I missed who set the cross-screen, but that kind of stuff develops when the ball moves quickly on the perimeter at the same time the cross-screen is being set. Too often, the ball movement is too slow for those kinds of plays to happen.
- The Wizards were making some nice cuts to the rim early slipping screens. Miami trailed them all the way, but did so aggressively. They also pressure pick and rolls, so it was a nice adjustment by Trevor Booker to slip the screens early.
- Against a team like Miami, every possession matters. That's why it was so disheartening to see Nick Young fail to re-post Chris Singleton with Mario Chalmers on him. Young instead dribbled to the corner, took a contested 18-footer and screwed up Washington's transition defense, allowing LeBron James an easy layup.
- Speaking of wasted possessions, there's JaVale McGee making a mad dash into three defenders without even looking to pass the ball. He missed it and it led to another layup. To have good transition defense, you need to be shooting from the right spots on the floor so your guards can retreat properly. When you step out of line, you better make the shot. Otherwise, you mess everything up.
- Wall missing four shots right at the rim really hurt. But if I were the coach, I wouldn't dwell on them. He did the right things, just missed the shots. No need to berate him for that or tell him to change his game.
- Lots of people wonder what Jan Vesely brings to the table. That screen he set to free Wall for his first converted layup of the game late in the first quarter is a good example. The timing of the screen is very tough, because he snuck onto the right side to pick off Chalmers. If he does that an instant too early or late, he gets called for the offensive foul. He did it at the perfect time and it gave Wall a layup.
- Of course, his lack of scoring ability also was on display early in that second quarter. But he may already be the team's best pick and roll defender.
- There's really no need for McGee to turn and face on Chris Bosh. Back him in and score over the top. Don't try otherwise. He adjusted nicely later in the quarter and got a couple shots deeper in the paint. As long as teams are going to try to cover him with a smaller guy, McGee needs to punish them.
- The Wizards' lack of depth was really exposed against Miami's bench. It seems weird to think that a team with LeBron, Wade and Bosh could beat someone with their bench, but this is an underrated Miami group. Udonis Haslem and Shane Battier are always in the right spots, and Norris Cole is productive.
- You have to appreciate Wall's devotion to pushing the ball. It caused a lot of easy baskets for the Wizards, and it convinced others to run with him. This is the most obvious advantage Wall has over anyone else on the floor, and while he still sometimes can struggle with his decision-making, it's an advantage the Wizards must use and hope he grows through it. This second quarter showed the true potential of Wall's speed.
- Four missed layups for Wall, one missed dunk by Booker. That's the game right there, at least as of the second quarter. It's unfortunate, too, because both Wade and LeBron were hitting some incredibly tough shots. Those are 10 points on the scoreboard the Wizards desperately need.
- Hard to really identify what went wrong early in the third quarter. The defensive rebounding wasn't great, but that's only a small part of it. Ultimately, I think some guys were trying a little too hard to make something happen, and that cost the Wizards offensively.
- Credit McGee for putting up big numbers -- he was clearly hustling. Still, when McGee hustles, he often gets tired, and when he gets tired, he makes mental mistakes like forgetting to come over and cut off Bosh's drive to the basket.
- Good to see Wall changing speeds well and hitting a couple floaters.
- You get the sense that James coasted in that third quarter. The stepback three-pointer that resulted in an air-ball? Singleton was hounding him and James could have easily driven by him. Something to keep in mind for later, because you know James is hoping to get out of here with a W while playing at 85-percent speed.
- Wall's command of the half-court offense has improved dramatically. I especially loved the play where he rushed it down off a missed shot, pulled it back, directed traffic to the right, then found Young on the mismatch with Chalmers and lobbed a perfect pass for the layup. Much like a quarterback reading the defense, Wall let his eyes divert attention and fooled Miami.
- The Wizards showed a zone defense against the Heat, and it worked for stretches. Many teams do this to Miami, and many succeed. It helped the Wizards get back into the game. Still, it's a change-of-pace for a reason. The Heat started to figure it out eventually.
- The sooner Booker starts consistently taking the open 17-foot jump shot with confidence, the better.
- The Heat's athletes make it so hard to drive and kick, but as long as Crawford is going to take it into the teeth of their defense, he could make a bit more of an effort to draw a foul.
- Once again, Miami's bench killed the Wizards' bench early in the fourth quarter. The Wizards could never contain Norris Cole, and that hurt them. Wittman was forced to bring Wall back in way earlier than he probably would have liked.
- Young's defense left a lot to be desired in this one. The Heat ran him off lots of screens and he was way behind trying to trail them. He also was his typically late self rotating the ball. While he did score a lot, these are the kinds of games people point to when they say he doesn't do much else but score.
- The Wizards tried going zone again late to get back into the game, but Miami was prepared this time with timely weakside cuts and crashing the offensive glass. Still think the answer is better man-to-man defense instead of a gimmick there. Zone served its purpose, but it's easy to overdo it.
- Also worth noting that Miami turned up the screws defensively, especially on the high pick and roll. That's why they're such a great team. They coasted early on, but that defense showed up when it needed to show up. The Wizards' half-court limitations were exposed in the fourth quarter, but credit Miami's defense for stepping up.
- Jordan Crawford had a pretty terrible, no-good, very bad game, to say the least.
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McGee did some incredibly stupid things again tonight
Lots of defensive lapses from Booker tonight even though he had a good game. Those LeNailbiter dunks were nasty. Please don’t ever play Mo Evans again, and please don’t ever let Rashard Lewis play agan. I can’t believe I watched this game. Nick Young was infuriating tonight. That is all.
Well McGee did some incredibly good things too
Mo wasn’t that bad, was he? Nick wasn’t either imho. We are just a bad team.
If we had 1 more capable big (Gortat for example), 1 more shot creator (Wilson Chandler for example) and 1 more knockdown shooter (Morrow for example), we’d be a lot better (I also think we can sign/trade for those players and then draft a stud rookie)
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
he's rex grossman
the question is will he stay a grossman? rex has…..
I think I saw on espn that Chandler wanted to stay
by DavidDunn on Feb 10, 2012 10:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Did Rashard play tonight?
What terrible thing has he done?
Oh yeah
And there were some disturbingly open layups with defenders standing under the basket and doing nothing to try to contest the shot.
Reading between the lines of what Mike said with my own spin
Miami wasn’t trying very hard for most of the game, and we were within 10 despite some pretty bad play and some mistakes that reinforce the idea that some of these players might never get it. Outgunned in talent, fine. Rookie mistakes, fine. JaVale and Nick being themselves, I was in utter disbelief of some of the plays (like the one when JaVale tried to throw the ball downward from about six feet away from the basket).
I can see what you are saying, I don't think it as bad of a doomsday scenario as you paint it.
I’m strictly talking about McGee because I’m with you that Young had an incredibly bad game. He had some boneheaded plays like normal, but I thought the hustle, effort, rebounds and points far outweighed his negatives tonight.
effort is for losers, no offense to you Craig
As usual, the only real positives go to Wall. The others made some really bad plays that just shouldn’t happen. What the hell was that shot by McGee, and what was that pass attempt when he could have dunked it? Booker, as much as I love him, is starting to miss or fumble three or four dunks a game.
Disagree right off the bat
Mcgee and Booker played well tonight, especially on the boards. The only negative I can possibly think of was the lack of shooting in general (FG, 3pt, and FT). That and a few untimely turnovers ultimately did the Wiz in.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
when the pass the ball, good things happen. when they dont, good things dont happen
they passed in stretches, and closed the gap…then they wouldnt, and…
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
None taken.
I just see that tonight’s game by JaVale was a much better game overall than anything in the past 2 weeks. He played more under control (except as Mike pointed out when he got tired). Wasn’t pump faked into horrible decisions and stood up tall in the lane. He was still bad on his screens, but he did cut at right times and found himself open for easy looks. He fought for some tough defensive rebounds and had a solid game. We paired him with Booker who is exactly what most people on this board want from a power forward next to McGee. Both had a great game on the boards. He DID have some bone headed plays no doubt about it. I guess we just disagree on what we saw tonight.
I'm not saying either
All I’m saying is they both had good games tonight. Not sure what kind of curve you grade on to say otherwise
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Miami executed down the stretch, Wiz couldn't get stops
and couldn’t score enough.
If we were to go to the playoffs, where teams execute and take away first and second options on plays, we’d be swepped and lose every game by 45 points.
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
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Wall was attacking the rim as much as he could...
was a little out of control on some of those tries but it was the right idea with Mario in there. The Heat are vulnerable against teams that can shoot the three well (teams have jacked up 584 of them going into this game and made 36% of them) and the Wizards do not have a lot of good shooters from range (Young has been good), so the Heat could pack the paint and not worry about getting lit up like in some other games.
"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
― Raymond Carver, Where I'm Calling From: New and Selected Stories
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Miami has the best perimeter defense in the league, probably. The Heat are vulnerable to front court scoring with Anthony and Bosh. They have to bring James in to add some muscle to a center like Bynum or Gasol. Good thing for them that the LAL runs dont run enough plays for their big men
If WAS ran Young at SF more, they would have enough shooters on the court. They have several bigger problems than shooting. Obviously, they need to bring in two shooters this offseason or one and Singleton needs to get a lot better. JV will take years. He will probably always be a bench guy tucked away for matchups against stretch fours like Dirk.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
584 and 36% are not good numbers...
and I watched the Magic and Knicks jack up 40+ a piece from beyond the arc respectively with a lot of them wide open this year. The Heat have to pack the paint because of what you said and on bad nights do not close out well enough. LAL can’t shoot 3’s either so Bynum was doubled quickly and he can’t handle a double. Gasol went off but the Lakers don’t have a bench this year so they are a big 3 hoping for some non big 3 to step up and make shots from night to night much like the Heat were last year and still are this year but not as much. The Wizards shot 21 and made 4 so no problem.
"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
― Raymond Carver, Where I'm Calling From: New and Selected Stories
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
You covered too much ground for me. Can you make your points more clearly?
One thing I think you are saying is the 36% so far this season from three that NY is shooting is not good. It is not bad, but it is below what a three point specialist should shoot by maybe one bucket a game. When we start losing games by three points, I think your point will be a little stronger. NY has proven over the past two seasons that he shoots better than 36% from three. He is closer to 38-40%, which ironically is what he has shot. If you park him on the perimeter and kick out for open threes, he will hit better than 36% for sure- probably closer to the 42-44% elite shooters make. His numbers include all those horrible contested fade away threes he tries, which is at least one per game!
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a Heat fan...
and the numbers are the amount of 3’s teams have attempted against the Heat 584 attempts at 36% which is good for them and not good for the Heat and illustrates that the Heat are vulnerable to the 3 for the reasons you say—having to pack the paint and not closing out on threes well on certain nights. In the games the Heat have played against the Magic and Knicks, both of those teams hoisted 40+ threes a piece and a lot of them were wide open (sigh!). The Wizards are not very good at three point shooting although Young is the best Wizard and not bad, but as a team, they are not good and could not take advantage of that.
When I saw Young knock down the first one, I thought uh oh, the Wizard watched the Magic Heat game and here we go.
"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
― Raymond Carver, Where I'm Calling From: New and Selected Stories
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Gotcha
But Miami coasts through a lot of games. So that average is higher than it would be if they really played hard. LeBron and Wade were out until 2am in DC Thurs night. I am sure it is not the first time =) Teams will not be shooting 36% against them from three in the playoffs. And 36% from three is the same as 50% from the paint. And I imagine teams are shooting better than 50% in the paint against MIA, especially since most teams make about 65% from there.
Miami is most vulnerable to an offensive center. And there are only a couple of them in the whole league!
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think you guys are in pretty good shape this year :)
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
But the NYK are a real contender if Lin keeps this up and Melo plays team ball.
CHI/MIA is not a lock for the conf finals
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Good info above,
yeah, the East is more competitive with Philly, Indy, and NY—I still have my doubts about Melo— coming on. Boston is dangerous also. Heat are good everywhere but center—getting Curry was not addressing the problem at C lol unless we were trying to get the biggest as a goal.
Kudos on the Wizards on going back to the old school uni’s. They look great.
"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
― Raymond Carver, Where I'm Calling From: New and Selected Stories
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Feb 11, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Craw left abt 9pts maybe 12 off the board from missed wide open 3's
Thats gotta be the highlight of the his offseason training. 3’s
I thought it would have been the focus last summer too
His outside shooting is his biggest weakness
by ThePGPhenomenon on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
is there anybody on the wiz
who cant list “outside shooting” as their biggest weakness?
by Maroon and Black on Feb 11, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
Young, Mack, McGee, Vesly, AB...but point taken
Young is good three point shooter when not throwing up contested, fade away threes. Mack is a good three point shooter but doesnt get enough playing time.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
at least vesely took a shot tonight
albeit a very short one. and he missed it.
I saw one play where his man took 3 sec to go double team Wall and left him
Literally standing on his own in the paint below the free throw line.
Vesely’s decision run the play and follow his man, trailing and try to essentially
As oppose to making himself available for a wide open 8 foot shots.
Teams are just ignoring him now. He can’t become that predictable.
by DavidDunn on Feb 10, 2012 10:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i hadn't notice wall doing the slow/down speed-up thing much before
did lin teach him that?
if he did
Then thank you Lin. That move can help elevate his game big time
by no more kwame's in dc on Feb 10, 2012 9:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lin, Rubio, Nash, Rondo, Teague, CP3, Lucas, Calderon, DWill, Holliday, Lowry, Rose, Lawson and Miller did
;-)
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
it was def Cp3
he started using it during that game and afterwards
by KurisuDevil on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
How's Dray's calf feeling?
Just kidding, I really don’t care.
by Unselds on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Alright, and I hate discussing hype
But what Lin at the Garden against the Lakers is doing is fucking ridiculous. Granted the Lakers have been pretty bad this year, but he is making all the right plays and making every single one of his teammates better. Wow.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
you beat me to it...
it makes me sick to my stomach to think what can be done at the PG position when you play under control…
and when u dont have the blackhole-cannon that is Nick Young
and the worst offense initiator in Mcgee with his ghost screens
by KurisuDevil on Feb 10, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
just comparing...not just to Lin
Wall is fully capable. We just need him to get the picture…He will.
But Young, Crawford, McGee et al are not helping the cause…
all that team has is a great point guard and center...and they are the best knicks team in 40 years
still think we need a shooter? draft a front court stud ernie, preferably center
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
There are none available
Dont force it, good with the biggest need/ best fit. Which is Lamb or Davis if we get the #1 pick.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
Drummond if he comes out
if not Davis, Robinson or Sullinger
It’s harder to fill the front court.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
I know.
Seems like Wall and Wiz teammates did a good job containing him! few nights back.
and my worst fantasy team got a huuuuuuuuuuge boost from him
I don’t need him on my best team though of the three I have
How nice it was to actually watch the game tonight (I live in MIA)
A few observations:
- McGee continues to make some of the most boneheaded moves imaginable. It’s just unfortunate that even when he has a good game like he did this evening the positives seem to be outweighed by the negatives. I mean, apparently he was #1 on “Shaqtin a fool” last night for cluelessly running back too early on D vs. the Raptors — which is all the Heat fans I watched the game with kept talking about. I love his athleticism and potential but am now pretty indifferent towards resigning him this offseason. I just have trouble seeing him contributing to a winning team.
- Love Booker’s hustle and effort. However, he needs to finish those buckets closer to the rim and learn to shoot if he wants AB’s minutes when he returns. Speaking of Blatche, say what you will about him, but he was missed tonight. He definitely could have a hit a few of those open 17-footers and helped with the ball movement when the offense got stagnant in the 4th quarter. On the Heat post-game on Sun Sports, the Heat announcers were talking about how he would have helped the Wizards get some easier baskets tonight.
- Nick Young was likewise talked about by the Heat announcing crew — but not in a good way. They ridiculed some of the threes he jacked up and at one point said he was a “tough” guy to play with. NY just seems so hit-or-miss. I remember seeing the Wizards play the Heat at the AAA down here last year and he went off for like 36-points. I think the Wiz should try to resign him bc he is the ONLY shooter we have (except maybe Crawford) but he HAS to work on his shot selection. FWIW I also don’t think he is a terrible defender.
- Not sure what to think of Vesely . . . he just looks so reckless and out-of-control out there . . . but the potential and athleticism are obvious. Further, as you pointed out Mike, he is the best pick-and roll defender on this team and pick-and-roll defense is one of this team’s biggest deficiencies. I’ve said it once I’ll say it again, the #6 overall draft pick needs minutes and it seems like Whittman is giving them to him. Hopefully he gets more as the season progresses.
- I am not particularly impressed with Singleton and haven’t been all season really. I understand he is just a rookie, but I just don’t see much potential in him other than as key defensive stopper off the bench that can occasionally hit the open 3.
- Great 2 see JW get some advice from Lebron and Wade after the game. Contrary to popular perception, Wade and Bron are both great dudes who always try to help out younger players. They went out of their way to work with Pittman and Cole down here plenty over the offseason. I am sure they weren’t trying to recruit JW to South Beach. (It’s not like MIA would be able to afford him anyway.) They were probably just telling him to keep his head up and things will eventually get better. As for Wall’s game, he had a rough start but didn’t lose his confidence — hitting some impressive jumpers later on. This game would have been a blowout by halftime if he didn’t make-a-point to push the pace and help us get some easy buckets in transition. Wall is unquestionably the best player on this team — not to mention its leader — he just needs to work on staying assertive while limiting the reckless play/turnovers.
- The Miami Heat are for real. It seemed like they were toying with the Wizards for most of the game and still won by 20. One (failed) lob from Wade to James was totally unnecessary but they just ran black laughing about it. (On the other hand, the backwards Wade lob to James for the tomawahk slam was a beautiful play and one of the sickest dunks I’ve seen all year). As you said Mike, the Heats’ bench in incredibly underrated; Battier and Miller are always there to hit the key three-pointer when Wade and James have to kick it out. Bosh is also having a legitimate All-Star year and is playing much more consistently than he did last season. So long as Wade or James don’t get hurt, this team is winning the championship.
by Uknowit2309 on Feb 10, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
The wiz lost to the best team in the league… and played them tough for a good bit of the game. I’m happy. The only negatives from the game were Nick Young and Jordan Crawford jacking up shots and John Wall with 7 TOs.
Seriously though, he got people in good position soooooo many times, and they just bricked the shot. He should have had like 15 assists today quite easily.
by DCSportsAllDay on Feb 10, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions
jump shooting teams dont win. orlando has the best 3 point shooting team in the league and cant win with howard
you can hit shots for a game or two. you can not consistently hit shots for seven games for four series
you need easy buckets. and they come in the paint (or very near it).
our next star needs to play in the paint…we get killed there…consistently
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
If only we traded for Jeremy Lin 2 days ago
Now we won’t be able to do straight up for Wall anymore!
by Ball with Wall on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions
and who cares...we would have been a better team. Wall and Lin would be fun to watch play together.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
true but knowing our coaching staff
Wall, Young, Crawford, Mason, Evans, and Mack would still be hogging all the minutes over Lin. He’d be cut by now if he wore Monumental Red.
probably...but i dont think EG even has his eyes open for one
he doesnt think things through…which is why we end up with an imbalanced roster and one dimensional, low IQ players like we have
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately, many of the high draft picks and early entries can run fast and jump high
but they don’t know when to pass, when to keep their feet on the ground, and they don’t know when to shoot without hesitation. We have a lot of these athletic phenoms unfortunately.
Yes. And the Knicks just signed an all star PG off the waiver wire
who is athletic but not crazy athletic, not especially fast, or jumps high
but he can shoot and knows the game inside out
and a team that started 8-15 is going deep in the playoffs
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
no need to make him the anointed one
he might keep this up and then again he might fizzle out
by KurisuDevil on Feb 11, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
ha. he is not the annointed one. but he is legitimately good.
you cant take away his knowledge and that is his biggest strength
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
My goodness...
One minute Lin is an unknown and the next he is a hall of farmer all the sudden. let’s not get ahead of ourselves. JW has had similar 4 game spans in his career and us as his fans haven’t given half of the applause as Lin is getting. lets realize wall has more potential but unlike Lin, isn’t in a system perfect for him. let’s see if Lin’s numbers stay even close when melody and amare come back!
by Wizards Sorrow on Feb 11, 2012 1:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
The saddest day
Will be when Carmelo comes back. Lin can mesh well with Amare like Nash in Phoenix, I’m not worried about that. Carmelo though…he is a virus, and if Denver’s record being unphased by his departure and the Knicks current 4 game win streak without him aren’t evidence of that, I don’t know what is.
Apples and oranges analogy Colts lose Manning, they have one of their worst season’s ever, Cleveland loses LeBron and they were worst? or near worse team in the league. Carmelo bounces and his teams do equal-better.
I wish D’antoni would have the balls to say “Yea Melo, I know you’re healthy, but there’s a seat on this bench that’s getting a little chilly, could you warm it up for us?”
by Ball with Wall on Feb 11, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
I love how you aid dont get ahead of ourselves then you say he Lin is a hall of famer. Classic
They will be better with Amare. He is a great on the PNR. Melo will have to adapt his game or they will be forced to move him, which will be an embarrassment no one wants. But he can shoot and pass and should fit in most of the time. He played more team ball in college so he can do it. The paycheck isnt changing. And winning helps people adjust.
Agree John is playing in a subpar situation. That is all on Ted, Ernie and the coaches.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
why trade? if ernie was paying attention, we could have signed him to a minimal rookie contract
Jeremy Lin is exactly why cutting Hamady without sufficient game experience was a stupid move, especially since we need a center. Lin was buried on a bench behind a young stud PG…and only saw practice time basically. And boy was that not enough information to make the right decision. Ironically, EG has no problem drafting euro players with high draft picks he doesnt even see play lol
by les boulez bomber on Feb 10, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Who cares about the 300k we saved and if we really needed the roster spot we could have waived him or sombody else.
Hamady never played. Seraphin and Vesely did and showed nothing while continuing to get PT. Why not try H? I know he was a late second round pick, but so what?! Lin was undrafted. What’s there to lose besides 300k? We are thin at center as it is so, there are minutes a plenty.
Too late now though
Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 11, 2012 6:15 AM EST up reply actions
how dare u say something like that
by KurisuDevil on Feb 10, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
we could have traded blatche to Houston for Lin plus some other guys too....
Lin was garbage to Kevin McHale.
no one wants to admit it
but the second unit could use his scoring ability down low but we know he will jack up those damn jumpers
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
by Mac G on Feb 10, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Booker was excellent again
He’s our best defender + rebounder and he’s scoring points.
Oh how I long for smart, high basketball IQ players
That make the simple easy play. That make safe passes. That don’t spot up behind the three point line on the out of bounds line. That secures rebounds. That box out. That shoot high percentage shots. That make their free throws. That don’t goal tend.
Did I miss anything??
share their girlfriends with fans?
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
No, that would be a bonehead descission again lol ;-)
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 11, 2012 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
Biggest thing I took away from this
If the Wizards had some guys who could knock down 3s they would have been competitive. There were so many times when Wall found a WIDE open player for a 3 and they would either clank it or hesitate and let the defense close out on them. If we had a couple guys who could actually hit shots playing this would have been a totally different game. 4-21 from 3 with a lot of open looks is just bad.
If Orlando can not make it work with an entire roster filled with good three point shooters and Howard, what makes you think we can with JW?
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. No three point shooting team has ever won a championship.
It looks good on paper. In reality, teams cant hit those shots for the 16 games needed to win it all. And it does not overcome the math that teams can score 65% of the time from/very near the paint.
It wont happen. It is important. You need to be able to make that shot, but it is not the path to a championship. And Young and Mack can hit about 40% from three. They dont play the lineup.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't say they would be a great team
But last night it was the one thing that really stood out. They played well for the most part but the lack of shooting is what sunk them. If you can’t make open shots you won’t win games.
I’m not saying we need to surround Wall with shooters but replacing guys like Evans and Mason with people that can actually hit an open shot. Singleton working on his 3 point catch and shoot game so he can hit an open shot. Every contending team has those role players that will knock down 3s if theyre left open.
by blackdog3377 on Feb 11, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Whittman wants Singleton to take it to the hole
so Singleton needs to work on his handle and footwork and fakes.So does Vesely. I think they both have the skills to score on the offense, but I wouldn’t want them as my primary scorer. How about Wall and Tracy McGrady. I forgot. We have Roger Mason. Who wants McGrady, Billups and Howard when we have Turiaf, Mason and Evans? That would be a waste of money. Got to keep that cap space cleared just in case Durant, Griffen and Anthony decide to play together in Washington.
by hambonejackson on Feb 11, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, who wants that
I dont like this modified Flip Sanders offense. Get an effing PF and C that can set picks, rebound, and make close buckets and two shooters that can guard on the perimeter and run a traditional pick and roll offense to death. That is a proven formula in the NBA, and JW would be an all star in that environment.
Our next piece needs to be a real center first chance we get. Ernie screwed up by not going all in on Wall and DMC first year. That is a foundation for a franchise.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I am reluctant to think we would have won if we hit more threes because Wade and LeBron can guard the perimeter and shut things down if they want. But I do agree with everything you said outside of that.
My mistake. I have read so many posts wanting us to draft either a SG or SF shooter, that I lumped your comment in that direction. Of course we need to do better shooters, but top front court talent is so much harder to find, you have to grab them when you get a chance. And this year will have three or four good ones to choose from.
I think a lot of this is on the coaches. Mack and Young can hit open shots at a normal (Mack) to better rate (Young). And he should be playing Mack, Wall, and Young together a lot more until Singleton can hit an open shot more regularly. Bottom line, NY should be playing small forward considering the other talent on this team. We would win more games.
My apologies and thanks for clarifying!
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Wall is coming around
and it should be expected of a player who is far, far better than many players on the floor. Basically., he is breaking out.Great to see. I figured it was going to happen sooner or later this season. So, now what? This continues to be the problem with this franchise. Walls floor is he is uber, but i don’t see uber. He is is transformational. He himself is transforming. He hasn’t even played a 1/2 a season yet and, yet I can see the kind of player he is. I am all for trading Wall to save his career. I hate to see talent wasted.
McGee is, how do you Americans say?, Sucks? The team cannot even in bound the pass without him trying to score. He reduces the team to 4 on 5 basketball. I would want a player I can pass the ball to knowing he will pass the ball back to me. McGee sucks.He sucks and he sucks and he sucks and there is no justification for him. He has to to go.
The whole thing is sad. Wall is becoming the player we all want and the team gives him the worst player in the league.,Its insulting. Get rid of McGee.
by hambonejackson on Feb 11, 2012 3:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Did anyone see the Kings beat OKC on national TV? I thought the Wiz would be as good as the Kings when the season started...
We did somehow beat OKC (how did we do it I still don't know)
But I agree I expected the Wiz to be better than this before season started. (say at least #9 or 10 in the East)
I hoped but did not expect....
What we see is what we get.
I am waiting to see what Ernie does before the trade deadline. We simply need to be in better shape going into the draft than we are now, in the sense that we should have a better idea of who is a keeper and who is trade bait. Right now, Wall, Booker and Vesely are the only certainties in my estimation.
I watched the whole Lin extravaganza through the wee hours in Warsaw and was captivated. Regardless of what happens with Lin long term, this is a great sports story and it has happened at a great time for the NBA. It will be fascinating to see what happens when Melo returns (he seemed to be wildly enthusiastic on the bench).
by khrabb on Feb 11, 2012 5:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think they should trade Melo for a 2 capable players (1SF and 1 6th man since they have no depth)
They would have had W.Chandler and Galinari if they didn’t trade for Melo and have Mozgov for some much needed depth. They still could have paired Amare with TChandler and have a great balanceren team.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 11, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
pretty cool match up next: Knicks vs TWolves....
Rubio vs Lin
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GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Im still trying to figure out why EG felt the old big three would not have been a better team with a can break down the defense, pass first pg
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
I noticed Melo's support too. I think you might see a less one on one Melo when he returns
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I agree... he was already beginning to question his own shot frequency...
before Lin arrived on the scene… It’s not like Melo never played on a championship team (Syracuse). I think he gets it.
Detroit piled it on yesterday. The Wiz could be heading into a season in purgatory.
I keep thinking that maybe we will leave some people in Detroit and take some of theirs back in return.
no one wants to lose. And his contract is guaranteed. He will adjust
Interesting thought regarding Detroit. We need their lottery pick though.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Anthony finally thinks the coaches might be right
He is one of 2 players in the league I will never forgive for not playing with the Wiz. I hope you like Oklahoma, Durant.
by hambonejackson on Feb 11, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
The Kings got much better after they fired Westphal
My god was he awful
Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG
DMC is more impactful than JW. They are the better team because of it.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I was (and probably everyone else too) expecting Wall to have a season like Jeremy Lin’s last week. Guy has game. After watching him slice and dice the Lakers, and then reading his Wikipedia, find out His HS team were league champions over Verbem Dei (were pro prospects play) He was all Ivy League in college where He graduated.
Could you imagine Wall with four years of college coaching? Everyone points to Walls game and say it’s improving, Lin’s game is good already.
by Janber on Feb 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lin is a nice back-up guard
Wall is beyond being only a point guard. There is a difference.what was the Wiz shooting percentage yesterday? This is the problem Wall has. He is the player taking the team on his shoulders and he isn’t getting much help. I am sure the team has its coach and they are talking to him right now. Who stays and goes on the team. How the team is going to built .
by hambonejackson on Feb 11, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I will wager he is a solid starter.
The man just needed a chance in the right situation. He is at the very least on a par with Jeff Teague or Jarrett Jack. With Melo and Amare in the lineup his scoring will drop off but his assists will increase and his turnovers will be less. He is in the right system with the right coach, and he brings intelligence, schooling and skill to the table. There was no place for him in Golden State (they had Curry, and they brought in Robinson), nor Houston (Lowry and Dragic are a fine pair of point guards). In New York he fills an absolute need.
He doesnt just fill a need. He is good at what they need. They have a very good PNR front court. And with him, they could be the first real threat to the Heat if Shumpert improves. OKC will be a threat once Ibaka can play at an all star level offensively. Give him another two years to see how he grows. But they will have a window in a couple of seasons. But they will have to trade Harden or Westbrook to keep it together. They will probably make the finals this year. I dont think they will win it though.
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
say what you will but Lin took an 8-15 team and energized a whole city winning four in a row
At a minimum, he understands the game very well, especially the most basic play and the foundation for nearly every offense: PNR. He makes his team better because they want to play with him because they will get the ball if they should and they are in the right position. JW is very inconsistent in this regard. The offensive system hurts him and makes him look worse than he is.
Every time JW goes coast to coast takes a little out of everyone else on the team. Who wants to run down the court on a fast break and not get the ball two out of three times only to have to run back on defense. Should he do it? Of course. Should he do it as often as he does? No. He needs to learn to push the ball and make that outlet pass. Often, he is at the defensive end free throw line and others are well past half court. That is the situation I am criticizing, not just JW going coast to coast.
People are loving Lin because he gets everyone involved, bottom line. It’s fun to watch. He will need to shoot less when Melo and Amare return because those two can score better than the backups
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mcgee, Wall and Booker showed up and played well everyone else not so much
Wall shoulda had 15 assists tonight too many missed wide open looks. Lack of shooting by this bunch is crippling
Vesely too me was just the wrong pick for this team. his scouting grade was too high by the Wizards we shoulda drafted Klay Thompson and been done with it.
Vesely sets a good screen and he’s someowhat aggressive on the ball defensively but he’s too light to guard 4’s, can’t shoot at all his passing is merely decent and he has no ability to finish through contact,
we can’t keep wetting the bed with draft picks of the guys we drafted the last couple drafts Booker to me is the only one giving us some value.
Seraphin has some talent but doesn’t play with activity and energy every night has no real offense and is overmatched playing center nightly. Not sure why we don’t ever play him and Mcgee tpogether at 4/5 thats a natural pairing to me particularly if Wa;; and Young are gonna do all the shooting.
Singleton has lost alot of confidence and appears to be a couple years from being a steady role player. and I already mentioned Vesely.
we need to get this next draft right and get a guy who is really good right away at whatever position maybe aside from pg.
Yes the Wizards MUST get the next draft right....
But they dare not sit and twiddle their thumbs in the meantime. There is an NBA marketplace out there and the Wizards need to participate in it actively. Teams with playoff potential and injured players or obvious gaps might need some current Wizards, and they might have some young talent or serviceable surplus vets in their late 20s or (from their perspective) uneeded draft choices in the 15 – 25 range that the Wizards could use. There is also the D-League to be examined for potential. Don’t tell me this team would not be better off with the 2012 model Alonzo Gee than Singleton (I am getting the sinking feeling that he slipped to 18 for a reason) or Evans.
With our talent, out best trade partner is Duke. The need help inside and we have some big bodies to that need to go
by les boulez bomber on Feb 11, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

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