Timberwolves Vs. Wizards Recap: Washington Falls To 0-8 With Embarrassing 93-72 Loss

It is Ted’s problem. He might want to start at the top. I dont have any other comment because I don’t care anymore.

there will be a change tonight

This might be the worst team in NBA history.

I wonder what old man John Thompson would do with these Bozos. I heard he’s free.

Real changes cant happen otherwise, gotta get someone else in here who doesnt care one way or another about any of these players so will therefore make moves without regards to his own ego

John, compared with nearly any roster in the leaugue, just doesnt have the guys around him to hit shots. Also, saw it today, but plain and simple, the offense Flip is running (I think he’s running an offense), doesn’t put John in a position to make plays at all. There were a few plays where John literally made something out of absolutely nothing all on his own; the problem isn’t a lack of court vision by him. The problem is that Flip insists on iso-ing Dray on the block, or iso-ing Nick…somewhere….and today it was pretty evident that it raises a lot of questions on whether, to be blunt, Flip Saunders knows what in the heck he’s doing in regard to John Wall. The major question being:

Why do Players like Dray hold the ball for much longer periods of time on possessions, instead of John Wall?

Until it can all be fixed? Go all in with youth, start singleton and booker, give Jan serious minutes), and focus on keeping the ball in John’s hands more often.

It’s funny how people so quickly forget Wall’s rookie year, where he had some superstar games, Ricky Rubio’s best games don’t even compare to John Wall’s best games as a rookie. John Wall’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t have shooters, he made some great passes but we are one of the worst three point shooting teams in the league. Also he isn’t confident with his shot, but that doesn’t mean that his shot will never improve. Many point guards improve more from their 2nd-3rd years than from their 1st-2nd. All the people bashing John Wall need to fall back a llittle bit, yes his game is very far from perfect, but I’d rather have him than Rubio. If we are having these same issues next year than we can legitimately complain.

this team plays like a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players thrown together.

I went to the game.

Rubio was incredibly impressive live and in person

13 points, 12 dimes and 6 boards… Off the bench

He is better than Wall in almost al facets of the game.. Court vision, passing, shooting. I’d give the nod to Wall on penetrating to the basket, IF HE COULD FINISH CONSISTENTLY.

On defense, Rubio was a better on the ball defender than I thought, and overall as good as Wall. He is certainly not the defensive liability that experts say he is.

I wish we took Rubio at number 5 two years ago. I wish we took Gasol at number 1 in 2001.

He hasn’t asked me what he should do. And I have better ways to spend my time than watching this. Definitely cooling off my interest and will check in again when they rise in the standings.

Hopefully they get a top 5 player with their next lottery pick

The other thing I noticed:

Rubio knows how to get assists off of a pick and roll.

Wall does not.

He gets all of his assists in transition, or while penatrating, and hardly ever in a half court set.

Yes, it’s clear the Wizards have quit on Flip and that he needs to go. But if we want to do this right, the next coach should be chosen by the GM so that both are on the same page about how the team should be run. Ernie, the author of our talent-suspect roster, is clearly not the man for the job. Ted should be, and hopefully already is, searching for a new GM to replace Grunfeld – and, hopefully too, a GM who understands the importance of rebounding and interior defense and is allergic to multi-year athletic “projects” who can do neither.

If Jozef Stalin owned this team (oh wait he owns the Nyets)… the next train to the Gulag would be boarding shortly.

Well, Ted, You’ve Got Mail… Your new toy is broken and there ain’t no warranty.

Get rid of that coach. And sit down with your players, yourself, sans Ernie and sans the next Flip. Tell them you expect them to work their asses off to become an NBA team. Tell them that Sam Cassell is your man and then bring him in, walk out and let him take over.

Then go see Ernie. Tell them that it is Sam’s team to coach but and that he, Ernie, has four months to prove he still merits his position. Tell him to start by shipping his deadwood in trades or to the D-League and bringing in some people who want to play.

A little ownership shoe pounding is overdue.

when the Heat played the TWolves

They had LBJ check Rubio in the 4th quarter during crunch time

That’s the ultimate sign of respect for his abilities.

LBJ is not going to ever guard Wall

isn’t that interesting. Any one looking for a coaching change?

We were desperate to break up the big three, and did so getting nothing in return. Jamison and Butler were not bad players, and we dumped them to free up money (to not make any moves with anyway). But we didn’t want to be held down by that money, so we set ourselves up with a sorry team. Okay.

From there, we were fortunate enough to get the first pick in the draft, and got a good player with it. But we drafted a pg with a team full of no one around him. Instead of making moves to put people around him, we are trying to put young pieces who can’t shoot around him, making his effectiveness null and void, and making him want out of here. In hindsight, our moves since breaking up the big three are looking worse and worse.

And what coach have we chosen for this job. A coach who has an offense that is claimed to demand jumpshooters. Who have we drafted? Players who can’t shoot. Okay….

So at this point, it looks like we have made a lot of mistakes (and I haven’t even mentioned the Blatche extension). We may have set ourselves up for years of failure ahead. Our rebuild may soon be about someone other than John.

So we are going to have to be patient I guess, because we might currently be one of those teams that is stuck in losing limbo like the Bobcats or Bucks have been. We may have to sit through multiple rebuilds before anything comes out. For a franchise who has went through so many rebuilds with nothing coming out of it, this is tough… Kind of depressing to be honest.

Let’s just hope that I’m wrong though…

Young would not be a starter on any other NBA team……So dont pay him like a starter. I like booker, Wall, and Javale(sometimes). Everyone else should be in the mix for some type of move.

I still don’t understand why everyone thinks that drafting a skinny young PG with one year of college to add to the well respected Blatche-Young-Wall triumvirate would result in wins.

We need a lottery pick this year and a lottery pick next year before we have anything resembling “assets”. OKC picked Durant and Westbrook and Harden – he was the 2nd overall pick!

Everyone seems to worship at the altar of OKC. Now you gotta walk the walk.

Personally, I feel adhering to a “strategy” can be counter productive when the strategy is treated as the ends. It’s not about how you do it, it’s just about doing it period.

is we went through a rebuilding season and should have been rewarded with another potential star in the lottery. I agree with Rook’s point. Grunfeld should have done what he could to get Williams. I have to assume he did.

Especially when the OKC strategy was just dumb luck. Here is the strategy, hit on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and fifth pick. Assemble enough talent during Durant’s rookie contract that he sees that he can win and get paid.

We have already blown this model.

Sorry, I’m normally quite upbeat and positive, even about the Wiz, but for God’s sake that was awful!! How did we just get done over by the Timberwolves!!!! I can take the Knicks, I can take the Nets, I can even take the Bucks, but not the cellar-dwelling Timberwolves please no.

This roster is flawed at heart, something serious has to be done right now to get some talent and IQ in here, starting with the man in the coaching chair. Every play turned into isos and we are not built for isos, Blatche from 18 feet is NOT what you look for as a first option!! If nothing happens we are going to be the new team that goes to the draft for the next 10 years cos the last team to have that dubious honour just handed us a blow-out!! I feel violated.

Rant over.

Sorry guys, but that match was the last one on my leaguepass, and I rarely get to watch the Wiz play unless its in the middle of the night. I just wanted some reassurance that we hadn’t slipped THAT far. I feel mentally and emotionally crushed.

And I will no longer defend Flip. I’ve been defending him for ages, but no more. Fire him now, give Cassell the job, anything is an improvement over this…..