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Knicks Vs. Wizards Recap: Wizards Fall To 0-7 With Frustrating Loss

WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 06: Carmelo Anthony #7 of the New York Knicks puts up a shot against the defense of Trevor Booker #35 of the Washington Wizards late in the second half at Verizon Center on January 6, 2012 in Washington, DC.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Rob Carr/Getty Images)

The Washington Wizards played probably the most entertaining game of the year, but in the end, they're still winless, falling to the New York Knicks, 99-96. The loss was exciting, but also incredibly infuriating in how it ended. Let's just dive into the notes.

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  • John Wall missed two baffling layups early on fast break, but kept attacking, and good things eventually happened. First, he fed Nick Young for a corner three. Then, he easily beat Toney Douglas coming left to right for a layup. Later, he did the same thing to Mike Bibby after a JaVale McGee block. Before the game, Saunders shared an anecdote on how he brought a Marine in to talk to the team last year. One thing the Marine talked about was "failing quickly." The theory being, if they dwelled on a failed operation or even a failed step within an operation, lives would be lost. If they can move on quickly, so can the Wizards. In the first quarter, Wall personified failing quickly.
  • For all the flack Flip Saunders has gotten, I liked what he did at the 4:37 mark. Andray Blatche lost his concentration on a post-up, allowing Mike Bibby to strip the ball. On the very next stoppage, Saunders immediately replaced Blatche with Trevor Booker. Saunders then immediately went over to Blatche, talked to him as Blatche looked frustrated and they hashed it out right there. That's exactly the kind of treatment so many fans have asked for with Blatche. If he makes a mistake, don't be afraid to go with a quick hook. Note: Blatche had picked up his second foul, but at least there was talking.
  • Of course, Saunders did the same thing with McGee after McGee made a bad offensive move on Chandler from the top of the key. That's OK, though. It's easier to accept a quick hook for McGee when Blatche gets one too.
  • It must be said: the Knicks really struggled early. Amar'e Stoudemire looked completely out of the game, and it didn't take long for Anthony to start forcing shots, which screwed up the Knicks' transition defense.
  • I'm going to say it again because it's worth noting: New York's transition defense was really bad early.
  • Chris Singleton simply needs more minutes. He knows where to be defensively off the ball, which explains how he's able to jump passing lanes. Offensively, he spaces the floor very well and won't step out of his role. He always has active hands too, making it tough for a player to even swing the ball to the opposite wing.
  • Like seeing Blatche play hard, but he also lost concentration a bit on both ends, allowing Stoudemire to cut behind him for an easy layup and committing his third foul on a charge. Always have to remember that playing hard isn't just trying, it's also concentrating.
  • Anthony and Stoudemire started putting their stamp on the game in the second quarter, going after Singleton and Booker and helping to get their team back into the game. That's why they're great players -- don't think the youngsters played poorly, though Anthony got Singleton off-balanced a couple times. The Wizards needed to send more help than they did -- McGee didn't provide nearly enough assistance to Singleton.
  • Wall started to get a bit sloppy towards the end of the second quarter. One thing I'd like to see Wall do more of is pitch it ahead on the break instead of always dribbling it down himself. He missed chances to hit Young and Singleton in stride, which I'd like to see him take. The point guards with truly great court vision are able to recognize when to pitch it ahead and give their teams easy buckets without getting on the stat sheet themselves.
  • For all of Singleton's defensive gifts, he could stand to gain a little lower-body strength. Anthony really backed him down too easily and forced him off-balanced. Just like in the Celtics game, Singleton was given an education in defending an elite offensive player. At least he was allowed to stay in and learn this time.
  • The Wizards missed Ronny Turiaf in this one. McGee simply wasn't stepping up enough on pick and rolls, and Seraphin was far too green to fight under the rim with Tyson Chandler. With Turiaf playing, the Wizards are able to withstand New York's push in the second quarter.
  • Honesty, the lack of help Singleton was provided at the end of the second quarter on Anthony was really bad. I know Anthony was making quick moves, but that double-team needs to come quickly. If a shooter beats you, so be it. Singleton did his best, but he's not ready for that challenge when Anthony is cooking like that.
  • Rashard Lewis' third quarter is one he'd like to forget. In perhaps the lowest moment of the game, Lewis cut too early, causing Wall to throw the ball away. He slowly retrieved the ball, lost balance, flipped a horrible crosscourt pass that Anthony intercepted, then stood there as Anthony raced in for a layup. Just unacceptable effort from a veteran that's supposed to be a leader of the team. I'd have benched him on the spot. He also shot a 22-foot three 21 feet and air-balled a runner until Saunders finally took him out of the game for Singleton.
  • Wall's pick and roll defense once again was an issue. He also lost Iman Shumpert off the ball several times, which forced both Wizards big men to sink off their man just enough to open up easy shots. It's always hard to assign blame for these kinds of things, but I'd lean more to Wall early in the third quarter. He also has to stop going for pump fakes -- staying down shouldn't be that hard for a guy like him.
  • It's really nuts how things snowball for these guys. Things as simple as fighting through a down screen that frees Stoudemire for a wide-open jumper become hard. Missed free-throws lead to offensive rebounds. Attention to detail is forgotten. But perhaps the worst play was after the Knicks battered the paint and got a tip-in. Saunders started talking to McGee, and McGee just trotted up the court for whatever reason. Wall had to start the play with McGee at halfcourt because he was moving so slowly. Fail quickly, folks.
  • The Wizards' rally began with -- you guessed it -- a hustle play from Singleton to retrieve the ball after Young fired an errant shot. He's obviously not polished, but he needs PT, and after Lewis' third-quarter act, there's an obvious guy he should get them from.
  • Jordan Crawford continues to make shots far more difficult than they need to be. It's not just shot selection, it's that he's not squared up on his jumpers and chooses to take floaters right by the rim instead of going up strong. It's hard enough to find efficient shots; now, Crawford's making decent shots difficult.
  • Crawford also helped off Mike Bibby in the strongside corner twice and got burned, once with a three and once with a long two. Both times, his help wasn't really needed. That's basic basketball right there.
  • Melo hit shots, but the Wizards didn't always swarm on him like they should have. It's a subtle thing, but the help defenders often left him a split-second too early, allowing Anthony just enough room to raise up without a hand in his face.
  • Wall tried to do too much at the end. He forced free throws, but he has to realize he needs to trust his teammate even if they can't be trusted. Honestly, my favorite play of the fourth was his pitch-ahead pass to Young, who managed to hit a three-pointer to cut the lead to three. Wall has to understand that he helps his team more if he does that every so often instead of just using his speed with little idea of an eventual outcome.
  • Trevor Booker really did a GREAT job on Anthony late in the game. I like the way Saunders trusted him late. He's better for the bulkier small forwards, whereas Singleton might be better for the quicker ones. Both players will be needed.
  • Two hands, JaVale. Always dunk with two hands. Then, you don't have to hit two pressure free throws.
  • The shot Wall took at 1:08 was an example of where he should have pulled it back. But the one where he got a transition layup for the go-ahead hoop? Good decision. Use the speed when you should use the speed. One-on one is good. One on three is not.
  • Refs missed an obvious offensive foul on Anthony on the go-ahead shot with 15.5 left, but Blatche has to provide more help than he did. You can't give Anthony a clean look at the rim with the way he has played in this game.
  • Wall for three is just not a good decision at all. Wall for three is just not a good decision at all. Wall for three is just not a good decision at all. Wall for three is just not a good decision at all. Wall for three is just not a good decision at all. Wall for three is just not a good decision at all. Wall for three is just not a good decision at all.
  • Speaking of bad decisions, Jordan Crawford was wide open on the other side of the court, as in nobody within several feet of him, and Wall ignores him to pass to Nick Young for a contested three. I know it's Crawford, but a wide-open shot by anyone is better than one with two defenders bearing down.

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Wall for three is just not a good decision at all.

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 6, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Dammit, you beat me haha

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by mr. 91 on Jan 6, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the penultimate point bears repeating.

Wall for three is just not a good decision at all.

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by mr. 91 on Jan 6, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Gonna watch the first 3 quarters of the game...

However, the best 2 plays that stood out to me where both by McGee.

- Carmelo juked Booker out of his socks and JaVale came flying in for the block.
- Out-jumping Tyson Chandler for the rebound from behind.

Man, can’t wait to watch the first quarter.

by Craig_ on Jan 6, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Just watched the whole game, missed it in real time as I was out...

(It is a lot quicker to watch on DVR ;).

Here are my real time notes…

This offense appears to be predicated on creating isolation for players to use one on one skills. We don’t have those players, so why do we keep running those plays. Especially to start games. I just saw 4 straight iso called specifically to start the game. We should be running plays reinforcing the value of ball movement, not intentionally stopping it.

John Wall really needs to take protecting the ball seriously. He has the ball taken away from him way too much. Stoudamire stripped him tonight in a one on one face at the three point line. That is unacceptable. He also has to learn how to make shots with falling on the ground. It creates a defensive liability and makes him more prone to injury. Oh…and make some free throws dude…

Nick Young is a very good catch and shoot player, especially when he is hot. But his hands are just too weak to be a successful driver consistently. The ball is stripped way too much. It doesn’t help that he couldn’t get a call if he worked at the Amazon Customer Service Line. That being said, he was really hustling on defense. In the first half, I counted two charges and a steal and a block. Good showing.

On a side note, Melo is amazingly strong and quick. His post moves are quick, decisive, and powerful. What an amazing player. And his J is water…wow.

Javale has seemed to cure himself from the pogo stick syndrome. That is great news. He also is going after rebounds with authority.

Crawford continues to struggle. It appear that he feels like he has to make shots to get himself going, and it shows. But when he isn’t looking to shoot, he looked reasonable. He really needs some coaching. I am not ready to give up on him yet. He has to improve his shot. But, there are many mental errors as well.

Singleton’s defense is for real. He is going to have Lewis’ spot by the end of the year. He brings too much to the table defensively. Hopefully he pushes Shard, who had some real lapses tonight that were unacceptable. (I wrote this at halftime. Chris made memy thoughts look pretty good with his third quarter).

Flip really does just pick players for isos. Some of the lack of ball movement clearly falls on him. He can talk about “the system” all he wants. But when 3 of 4 play calls are isos for players without 1 on 1 talent, that is a coaching failure.

We need a PF that can rebound. That lost rebound with about 30 secs left really hurt. You have to come down with that. If McGee had some rebounding help this team would be materially better.

The key issue that I see with this team is one word…Trust.

John Wall doesn’t trust his shot.
Multiple players don’t trust their teammate, choosing to go one on one instead of passing to wide open player.
Multiple players don’t trust the coaches game plan.
The coach doesn’t trust key players.

Until these guys build up their trut in themselves and their team, this team isn’t going anywhere fast. Good game…but the weaknesses are still there and have to be corrected.

by DavidDunn on Jan 6, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Continued notes....

JaVale continues to make his presence felt in a good way in the paint. Last year it would be goal tends, terrible attempts at blocking everything and while he still sometimes has a couple lapses, he is making some great decisions.

While trust is a key factor, we can only hope that games like these will increase that. It takes time to build trust when it is low. Guys have to show that they’re willing to fight together and have each other’s backs. There were times a little bit where the lack of trust showed, but it wasn’t as prevalent as earlier games.

Can we make any assumptions about the player’s only meeting regarding player’s roles from the way the game was played tonight?

Seeing Crawford only get 11 minutes tonight was a breath of fresh air. There’s been a lot of talk regarding Crawford shot jacking and playing hero ball and I wonder how long it’s going to take for him to understand that’s not going to work in the NBA. It’s good to see Flip make a minor adjustment to the minutes people are getting (even if it isn’t consistently consistent haha).

Seeing Blatche (8), Young (7), Booker (+1) and McGee (0) as positives tonight really refuels a little of the optimism I had coming into the season. It doesn’t get rid of the beginning of the season by a long shot, but it does make the game much more watchable.

If we play like this against Minny and Toronto, we’ll have our first 2 wins of the season.

by Craig_ on Jan 7, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh
It doesn’t help that he couldn’t get a call if he worked at the Amazon Customer Service Line

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Vesely also didn

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by mr. 91 on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Oops.

Vesely also didn’t get any minutes- is he looking good to play Sunday?

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by mr. 91 on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully.

This team needs him. He isn’t going to make this a good team, but they need a big body(albeit slim) who can run the floor and provide a spark. Above all, they need another player with a 42 minute motor, and that’s something Vesely will provide even if his shooting is initially a liability.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

or...he was there...and they called out the big contracts

i.e. sense of entitlement….

Blatche accepted criticism…maybe Lewis thought…I am too old for this sh**…

He looked totally out of it tonight…and if Flip has any sense of how to run a team, he has to be benched for the two plays where he literally just stopped playing after making horrible plays…

by DavidDunn on Jan 7, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Although I feel bad for the guy, it’s time to pull Lewis from the starting lineup. Plus, I don’t like Singleton and Booker together as the forwards (dead weight offensively), so pairing Blatche/Singleton and Booker/Lewis makes sense.

by disgrunted on Jan 6, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

don't feel bad for him

He’s getting paid millions of dollars to play this game, and he barely puts in any effort. If/when he gets benched, he’ll deserve it.

by DCSportsAllDay on Jan 6, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can anyone ask Flip why he's in love with Lewis...

When the guy quite simply can’t play? I mean, at ALL?

While you’re at it, ask him why he prefers Crawford over Mack as Wall’s backup. How much more painfully obvious can it be that Crawford cannot — repeat cannot — play the point.

by YellaFella on Jan 6, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Not meaning to beat a dead horse:

But in 23 minutes, going 1-4 with 4 rebounds and FIVE turnovers is just a waste of PT. Especially when your backup is clearly hungry for more and continues to get better.

by Righte on Jan 6, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

These where the kind of losses i expected for the team!

hopefully we’ll finally pull one out on Sunday…

by daca on Jan 6, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

We would've won the game if Flip wasn't our coach

He made terrible subs. The Knicks are beatable and a terrible team.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 6, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

ummmm...

We can’t say any team is bad right now, though I get the point. the Knicks aren’t that good either.

by thewiz06 on Jan 7, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Far and away our most improved player

He’s a top-10 center at this point, lightyears beyond how he was playing last year. So much smarter all around. … I keep waiting for him to come down, to show that this has all been a mirage somehow

And he’s still yet to scratch his ceiling

by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 6, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

and he even added some post moves

STRAIGHT CASH HOMIE

by everybodylookin on Jan 6, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that hook shot can’t be defended… a few years from now, could be ridiculously deadly

by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 6, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He always had the talent.

Luckily for him, we have been a team that could afford to give a player that much time to develop.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Jan 6, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

After the Orlando game

“He’s a top 10 Center” may be an overstatement, but he played really well. I think he still has that potential. He needs some bulk still.

by GJennings on Jan 6, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If the early 7-game sample is any indication, I think we've got 4 long-term pieces

Wall, McGee, Singleton, Booker.

Vesely is obviously a wildcard. Our top-5 pick should hopefully garner us a star starter.

This isn’t a bad foundation from which to build

by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 6, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

Those 4 + Nick should start.

by DCPerspective on Jan 6, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree!

Would also like to see Mack. Could be a legit Bkup point.

by fatpoppafunk on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

its the little things that lost us the game

Which is improvement
I LOVE singelton and I think he might turn out to be the starter by Sunday. But common man when we’re playing our hearts out and hitting shots you have to, HAVE TO, make the dunk. There was no excuse for missing that. He was nowhere near the reason we lost (because he played like a monster) but you have to make the dunk man. But the effort was 10000x better this game than last 6

by no more kwame's in dc on Jan 6, 2012 9:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

So right

Not getting rebounds after the other team’s missed free throws; throwing sloppy/lazy outlet passes; not switching correctly on double teams …. A whole litany of stupid little things. This is why Flip has to go. We need a teacher coach that concentrates on the fundamentals. On who awards effort and punishes apathetic play.

by DCWizFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree

But there wasn’t really flip did extremely wrong tonight IMO. Besides playing reshard Lewis more than 10 min. But the rotations other wise were OK. And I guess we can’t really blame him for playing Crawford since he is a young Guy that might have some skills

by no more kwame's in dc on Jan 6, 2012 10:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

On a lighter note:

Wall is back to his rookie year form with a familiar stat-line: 20pts, 5rebs, 9ast, 1stl and 5 turnovers. He looks like he might be showing more control around the basket too.

by Righte on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

It really blows my mind how Flip is still the coach

He needs to be fired to change the culture.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Unrelated, but I'm watching some Magic-Bulls right now.

Jason Williams (former Magic PG) is sitting court side, he said he’s been playing in a 4 on 4 league at the YMCA with Gilbert Arenas. Williams says that Arenas is in really good shape. For what it’s worth.

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 6, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

CHRIS SINGLETON FOR ROYYY

lol just kidding. But seriously at least give him the minutes PLEASE. Rashard isn’t interested in basketball anymore he FREAKEN QUIT! I don’t want to see a professional basketball player quit… on my team… it’s just too sad…

by Young Wook Lee on Jan 6, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Singleton and Booker should be starting

They can’t shoot, but their hustle outweighs it, especially comparing their effort to Lewis and Dray.

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by DMVLeGenD on Jan 6, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Wall, Young, Singleton, Booker, McGee

will all give good effort. Hopefully Vesely starts getting minutes

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 6, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm worried that Vesely will have Seraphin-level incompetence

but almost anything will be better than what Rashard has been giving us

by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 6, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Vesely looked good in that first preseason game

He looked smart and hustled. He could be better than we believe.

by gray16 on Jan 6, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

We so very badly need someone to make some smart cuts to the basket

When Wall has the ball in his hands. It would be such a huge bonus of Vesely could be that guy

by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Flip started Lewis over Singleton and Booker

Don’t judge how good players are by his rotations. Especially in tight games like this.

by gray16 on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Jan is the 6th pick in the draft and he cant see the floor on a winless team.

Make of it what you will….hopefully it’s a sign he cant shoot (which we knew) but plays hard defense and exhibist energy, qualities that Flip isnt too impressed with

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's called injury

Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.

by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Do you really want Vesely to start out against this frontcourt?

Would not be pretty for a guy’s debut. He’ll definitely play against Minny.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jan 6, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he was the 6th pick in the draft and Singleton played tons vs Melo

vesley doesnt need to be coddled if he’s healthy, and honestly i bet he would have played well early on….the knicks came out flat

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

I think it’s smart not to play him. I think Flip played Wall too much when he was injured.

We’ve got him under contract for the next 4 years. Let’s build him the right the way.

by GJennings on Jan 6, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Being healthy is not the same as being fully game-time ready

He fysically could have played his first minutes today, but that doesn’t mean he is ready if you know what I mean.

I have big reservations too about Jan, DCrez, but what Jan needs a little more time after being out for two weeks. He will play a bit against the Wolves and Toronto I recon, but he shouldn’t log big minutes yet. Let’s give him 2 recovery games to get his feet wet before we both kill him ok? ;-)

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 6:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No he won't be that bad.

He’s going to at least look like a real basketball player, how good is debatable…

But he has years of pro experience, and I expect that to show a little bit.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 7, 2012 12:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Singleton + Booker

They can’t both start … they are too short. I love what they bring, but they are both 3/4 tweeners. Too slow to guard the 3, too short to guard the 4. That being said, of course I would start Singleton over Lewis right now. He’s just not a long term starter in this league. I like him, but he’s not.

"One thing you can't control is you never know"
- Lebron James

Wow, words to live by.

by GodWuzAWiz on Jan 6, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Their Phyiscal Gifts

make it possible. Booker has the strength to play PF.

by GJennings on Jan 6, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

IMHO, this game shows conclusively we'd be a better team with Singleton-Booker starting

Rashard is just so done and when Dray plays within what he’s capable of, he’s limited like tonight. Both those guys would be great on a 2nd unit. Book and Singleton bring energy and real defense, seems like every hole we climb out of and every run we make happens with them on the floor. Do it Flip, just do it.

As always, Javale needs more touches in the post. Period.

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

B-b-b-but Those guys can't shoot (sarcasm)

Flip is an idiot and doesn’t see what positively effects the team.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 6, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I might be willing to add Booker and Sinleton to the longterm pieces need to see more

Overall just disappointe the Knicks team is a mess and is poorly coached and has talents playing together that don;t fit a missed 3 instead of the bucket by Melo 2 made free throws by Mcgee isead of misses and we win.

by jazzy1 on Jan 6, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

and Ted needs to take a hard look at what's happening

the crowd tonight must have been 60% knicks if not more. Massive cheers when Mcgee missed those free throws and huge, huge BOOS when he was taking the 2nd one. “LETS GO KNICKS” all night long. It’s truly, truly disgusting and you can damn well bet our players are like “fuck this, it’s an away game”

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

No

It was about 60-65 % wiz fans. You could tell that when good things happened in the end. But the Knicks fans were loud (many of them are probably from NY and you know how they are!). The DC attitude is too “cool” for that.

by DCWizFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

But you are right

Verizon Ctr rarely feels like a TRUE home court. Too many fans of other teams in this town and not enough of any kind of hometown pride vibe. Only winning will create that.

by DCWizFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

When you were a terrible team the last two years

It’s not that surprising that you get fans of other teams.

I remember when the Wizards marketing plan used to focus on the other team: “Come see the Wizards take on Kobe Bryant and the Lakers”

by GJennings on Jan 6, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

There was one side that completely seemed to be Knicks fans.

But I agree it seemed to be about 65% Wiz fans. First game of the season for me and it was a good one. That to me was a Booker party because he looked fantastic. Melo had a good night but he seemed to be very frustrated all night and this combo of Booker and Singleton really shined tonight. Wall took some bad shots, but there were also better decisions. Lastly I was surprised that Mason wasn’t on the floor late to take a big shot.

by Kuruption on Jan 7, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Booker is awesome

Big props to EG for that pick, the only thing holding him back now is Flip

by DCrez on Jan 7, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

You're absolutely right about that missed dunk

And the reffing was HORRIBLE! Did u see the free throw disparity? We played more aggressively than the Knicks but they got every touch call ….

by DCWizFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This was a very winnable game

And as a season ticket holder who’s been wondering if I made a terrible mistake in buying tix, it was a big step forward to have a fun game to watch. Much better ….

Flip is a coach who seems to have very little “feel” for the game as it is unfolding. And Lewis is so done – there was a lot of vitriol directed his way (much of it by me). He needs to sit.

by DCWizFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

I'm clairvoyant

Singleton !!
1. Best defender in the draft – including perimeter defense….
2. His 3-point shooting improved, as did his Free Throw percentage and his TS%

If you watched Florida State this year, you know that they relied on Singleton on Offense to create shots. They had really no one on the team that could create… and that is NOT Singleton’s strength. He is much better playing off the ball – shooting from the perimeter. He’s a decent OPEN catch-and-shoot guy with excellent mechanics on his shot…

His problem this year is that they asked him to be a high usage, shot creator – and because of his limited ball handling capabilities, he struggled at times… Shooting contested shots, and generally trying to create with the ball in his hands, when he’s better as an off-ball cutter and shooter..

I’ll bet that his catch-and-shoot numbers from Synergy are good… He’s great in transition…. and although he may be a "tweener" on Offense.. he’s a pure wing on defense.

He guarded everyone from Point Guards to Power Forwards… I especially loved watching the BYU games – where they asked Singleton to guard Jimmer Fredette… and he did a very good job. He has the physical tools, and skills, along with the defensive mind set to become a true lock down defender – with the ability to defend anyone from Joe Johnson to Dwyane Wade to LeBron James to Kevin Garnett.

On a team that includes some good offensive players like John Wall (shot creator), Jordan Crawford (shot creator), Nick Young, and Andray Blatche (shot creator); the Wizards should be looking for a low usage wing that can defend, rebound, get out in transition and hit the occasional open shot created by Wall or Crawford.

Draftexpress says:

This is a big reason why he projects as more of an off-the-ball role player than someone expected to carry a heavy offensive load in the NBA. Clearly he would be best suited playing on an up-tempo team that likes to get out in transition, alongside a point guard who can get him the ball in a position to score.
Does that sound like John Wall and the Wizards, or what?

And the best thing? They can probably get Singleton with pick #18…..

He’s “delightfully cranky”
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by Rook6980 on May 24, 2011 5:39 PM EDT actions 2 recs

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure Singleton qualifies as a good nba defender yet he got used and abused by Melo and Pierce

I think he needs to get alitle stronger but I agree he should be playing alot and possibly starting. He’ a high activity player who has a better than advertzied jumper. Good off the ball instincts as a defender. As mentioned a low usage player not that I buy that inside the number inside the numbers stuff lol

I’m sold on him.

he and Mcgee would be good off the ball type energy guys. very high activity would improve the chemistry in the starting line up quite a bit if he were starting.

by jazzy1 on Jan 6, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

As a rookie defender

he looked really good. As an overall defender, he’s probably above average. Also, defense is a team effort, when McGee doesn’t rotate, Singleton looks worse.

by GJennings on Jan 6, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

But it’s Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce…so energizing to watch CSing and Vale go at it last night…

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 7, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember

great call. And I’m loving Singleton now.

by edubz on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Still clairvoyant

on the Wiz getting 30+ wins?

by schmeee on Jan 7, 2012 3:24 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yep

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jan 7, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

The Wizards will be one of fastest teams in the league and will be near the top in fast break points, but their half court offense will struggle at times. Especially early in the season, we may see the half court offense often break down into Andray Blatche going one-on-one, Rashard Lewis from the corner and Jordan Crawford jacking as many shots as he can get his hands on. They will struggle to break 90 points………………….

But like last year, I believe they will start to put it together in the last 25 games or so.

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by Rook6980 on Jan 7, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That's spot on so far

except we don’t really focus on the fastbreak. It only seems to happen if Wall is getting a rebound himself.

Otherwise the break and secondary break are not really there. We settle into a agonizingly slow half court set like you discribe and we do it by design it seems. An uptempo offensive coach like Adelman would have been great for this young athletic team.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't catch this game

But it seems like this is the kind of game I thought we’d play in for the majority of the season. Games were we play hard, but end up losing. And too be honest I don’t mind games like this. I don’t expect young teams with 8 rookies or sophomores to be great at finishing strong and closing out games. Its good too hear that Wall is getting his groove back, Young finished with 20+ and Sing and Book played well. I can see sing and book being long term role players here in DC.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 6, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

plus I live in New York and I LOVE IT when DC teams beat NY teams.

you know about #NewYorkSuperiority? That’s an actually thing. Pisses me off to NO END.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 6, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i lived in nyc for years

nothing was better than sporting wiz or skins (rarely) gear on the work commute after a DC win

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Shared hate for NY Teams

One of my favorite TV moments is from “Amazing Race” where some girl from NY rants about how she is from NY and its the toughest city in the world so she can do anything. Then it cuts to her doing some challenge and sitting on the side of the road crying about how she can’t do it, as an 80 yr old woman passes her by doing the exact same thing.

Anyways love when NY loses, hopefully next time we get a win.

by Kuruption on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Was thinking this all game
he needs to trust his teammate even if they can’t be trusted

agree so hard

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 6, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Trevor Booker. Kicks. Ass.

So does Singleton. But not as much as Booker.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jan 6, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

They are both good players . . . but I'm tentative to see them on the floor together

because this creates a joint offensive liability at the 3/4 spots. Remember the Wizards are dead last in offensive efficiency. As sub-par as 7-Day Dray and Rashard have looked much of the year, replacing them full-time with a rookie known for defense and a limited energy-player is not the answer. That being said, I am open to starting Singleton and giving Booker some more minutes. The key is to leave Blatche, Rashard or Vessley in with Singeton or Booker to balance the offensive and defensive output.

by Uknowit2309 on Jan 7, 2012 4:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

liability?

Rashard is shooting less than 40% FG and less than 25% from 3pt.
Singleton is having over 50% FG and 3pt and Booker is at 50% FG.

by vmr on Jan 7, 2012 4:59 AM EST up reply actions  

We lost to a better team

frustrating but at least we got the lead with Wall’s layup. I was more than fine with the way we played.

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by adamvolo on Jan 6, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

We would've won if Flip didn't suck so much as a coach

That’s why it’s so painful.

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by DMVLeGenD on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

vesely

looking forward to seeing him. but he shouldn’t play when they have a chance to win, at least not much. gonna make a ton of mistakes. not much experience.

by stevie on Jan 6, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

He was touted as the most nba ready guy

and everyone said since he’s been a euro-pro for years, he was levels above american ncaa players. Singleton kicks ass….why cant Ves?

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He was injured and flip probably didn’t want him to get his nba debut defending carmelo anthony or amare stoudemire in a close game only a couple days after being able to start practicing again. He’ll get playing time Sunday

by Llamaman on Jan 6, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he could have played before it was close

6th pick in the draft who won a championship in an insanely intense euroleague….i guarantee you minutes at Verizon Center are not too big for him. At any rate, lets hope he plays Sunday!

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It was pretty close all game. The only time it wasn’t was when we were going on a run in the first quarter and it wouldn’t have made sense to put ves in and interrupt that

by Llamaman on Jan 6, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

we'll see

he’s only 21. and from the little i’ve seen, which is not much, he didn’t really look ready to come out with both guns blazin’. i think he’s a couple years away. hope not thou……

by stevie on Jan 6, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

plenty of experience in professional leagues, he's not as inexperienced as most people think.

In the one game I’ve seen of him, he looks poised with a pretty high basketball IQ. He’ll have his moments, both good and bad, but I think he’ll seamlessly make his way onto the floor. I’d like to see Vesely, Singleton, and Booker getting consistent minutes.

Yank that leash on Blatche and Lewis. Much less of them please. Blatche should not be in our future. He is not an NBA caliber starting PF.

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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 6, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

the thing is, we win this game if Rashard gets a DNP.

Booker shows YET AGAIN that he is better than Dray. At what point does Flip make the changes? Or does Ted prefer we lose these games?

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Can we talk about Seraphin for a second?

I know it’s too early to call him a bust and he’s raw and all that, but the guy just has no idea what he’s doing on either side of the floor. He has zero offensive game, is constantly getting lost on defense, frequently is in poor position for rebounds or just gets outworked on the boards… I just don’t see how this guy has the potential to end up being worth the mid 1st round pick. If he just needs more time to learn how to use his body and develop his game, why not send him to the D-League where he can rack up minutes? His 10 minutes of clueless basketball a game isn’t doing him or us any good.

by dcsportsfanatic on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

It comes down to coaching and what people we have involved in player development.

It’s taken JaVale 4 YEARS to develop a simple jump hook over the shoulder? It takes Nick Young 3 years to learn how to curl off a screen to catch and shoot? Our players don’t develop as fast as they should. It doesn’t help that we usually draft guys with such low basketball IQs (up until this year, Vesely, Singleton, and Mack have that going for them).

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 6, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Javale was much better than Seraphin as a rookie and soph

Mcgee had games his rookie year where his raw talent was undeniable and so did Nick, Seraphin has had no such games

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Mcgee didn't get alot of time his 1st 2 years so I wouldn't say it took him 4 years

Seraphin is a pf playing center he’s too small he has to play leverage and leverage only but he doesn’t have the IQ to do that consistently.

He’s terrible.

by jazzy1 on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the trading Rubio for Foye and Miller and drafting Seraphin 17th moves aren't looking so hot right now..

along with the Gilbert contract, Blatche contract, many other things I’m forgetting.. at what point do we stop blaming Flip and calling for Grunfeld to be replaced? not to be a debbie downer after a win that showed progress, but I feel like it should be addressed

by dcsportsfanatic on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i think we have to cut him some slace on the Foye Miller trade

as bad as they turned out to be. they had a reasonable chance to go deep in the playoffs that year, so picking up a couple good bench guys could have been a good move. didn’t work out, but hey, that’s life.

seraphin was a lousy pick. blatche was a bad signing, no doubt.

he did put together arenas, jamison, and butler. that was pretty good.

by stevie on Jan 6, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They didn't trade Rubio

They traded the rights to the 5th round pick. Most draftboards had Rubio gone before then.

It wasn’t a great trade. Since most of the players have been better than anticipated and Miller’s skill-set declined faster than expected, it was a bit of anomalously result.

by GJennings on Jan 6, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Mobile rec

Such good points.

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by returnofswagger on Jan 7, 2012 10:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

what do you want to bet Ernie never some him play in person, not once?

Ernie was not in Treviso for the international combine where Seraphin came in at 6’10" (yeah right) , but didnt do any drills due to knee injury. You know, the injury Wiz claimed was 3 weeks but kept him sidelined for 4 months.

No due diligence, Ernie just drafts these euro guys as if it’s part of his job description…draft one international player so your boss knows you are actively engaged overseas. pathetic

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I have seen nothing

to make me think Seraphin deserves a solidified spot in Flip’s rotation. He’s still young, but just seems to make to many stupid decisions (that aren’t mitigated by production). He also doesn’t have much “presence” on the floor nor does he look comfortable in the post. That said with Turiaf down if Javale gets hurt he’s all we got so maybe the minutes he’s getting now are good for him.

by Uknowit2309 on Jan 7, 2012 4:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Give N'daye a shot!

He couldn’t be any worse than Seraphin.

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by Krusty2 on Jan 7, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, he is

Much worse, from what I’ve seen. Seraphin has actually improved a bit, from atrocious to just bad. Give him some more time and he’ll become a useful 10th man.

by steadyhand on Jan 7, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Missed the game thread

but caught a lot of the game. I’m pleased. Bit of a crusher at the end but you what can you do. I see a lot to like. I feel so much better about Walls came. And I’m just a huge Singleton fan. I love the guy. Great form on the three point. Smart player. Long and LIGHT on his feet for a 6’8 guy.

by edubz on Jan 6, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Seraphin looked like crap in the first half

But in the second half, he impressed me. He really manned up, and made some plays.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

+1

I actually kind of hope the Wiz go 0-15 or something like that. Although painful, it would most likely demand change. Despite what Ted is saying, something would have to give if that happened. If Flip Saunders is 0-15, he needs to fired, even though it should’ve happened a long time ago.

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by DMVLeGenD on Jan 6, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ted's strategy

but he picked Flip to execute in the particulars, he can’t go in and start micromanaging the team. Any whiff of telling Flip who to play IS micromanaging.

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 7, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

That was one of the most exciting games I've seen this team play since the Arenas era

And from seeing it on tv, the verizon center was rocking at the end. If this team played every game like that and lost, I would still relish every moment. I remember when Singleton was drafted, thinking how great it would be to see him and Booker playing at once. Tonight we saw how good a combination they can be. Anthony was just unconscious. Say what you will, you can’t fault the effort. Let’s see it again.

by satchmore on Jan 6, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

Just saw Rook say in the game thread

the charges tonight were the first he has seen from Nick.

I feel like I have seen him take many charges? All last season as a matter of fact. Did you mean this year Rook? I even feel like I saw a few this year? Hmm…

by DavidDunn on Jan 6, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Better -

acceptable. have come to the conclusion that crawford and lewis are worse for this team than blatche. you can’t start booker, but you can give him more of ‘drays minutes and tell andray he has to get in shape to play more because he really hurts the team when he gets tired.
and you most definitely CAN sit lewis’s ass on the bench and start singleton.
and i don’t know why you can’t at least give mack a few of crawfords minutes?

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by little stevie colter on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

AB is not as big a problem as Lewis and Crawford

AB is an effort problem, not so much skill. Sit him when he is not playing hard bec Booker brings it everytime he is in the game.

Lewis plays like he doesn’t care, and his shot is gone.

Crawford shoots too much first and foremost.

Basically, if Flip rewarded effort on the court, then this team would be fine and would come together. But he plays inexplicable favorites too often.

by les boulez bomber on Jan 7, 2012 6:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

John Wall had some nice finishes on the break

and made maybe one pass. When the circus layups aren’t falling, you need to find your shooters.

John Wall is the second worst shooter in the NBA by EFG (from Boswell in the Post today). He should not be taking our end of quarter shots. He should not be taking our end of game shots.

by rgc19 on Jan 7, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Time for less Lewis, more Vesely

I’d rather see a rookie making mistakes and playing with effort than a vet making mistakes and playing horribly, horribly.. Lewis is a liability on defense, and has been all season. If he can’t hit a shot, what’s the point?

by satchmore on Jan 7, 2012 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

I assume they decided to give Vesely 2 more days to recover

Or maybe they want to ease him in with some garbage time?

by steadyhand on Jan 7, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Singleton earned a starting role...

but I’m sure Flip will continue to start Lewis. Rashard Lewis is a disaster! Every time he touched the ball he either turned it over, or threw up an air ball. Singleton made good decisions on both ends of the court (except for the missed dunk). He clearly outplayed Lewis. It was nice to see the Bullets play competitively. They need to learn how to finish. When do we get to see Vesely?

by ABOVETHELAW on Jan 7, 2012 4:20 AM EST reply actions  

Yes, he is a ghost of what he was in Seattle...

As far last night’s game goes, it was the Knicks after all. Their starting guards are pretty horrible, which gave Wall and Young a chance to shine a bit.

McGee may have made a mistake or two but he played a good game against a tough opp in Chandler. Obviously, we needed much less (as in none) of Lewis against the Knick forwards. If Flip had simply kept rotating Singleton, Booker, Blatche and Seraphin against Amare and Melo, he might have warn them down just one extra bit more… and that is all that would have been needed to win this one.

by khrabb on Jan 7, 2012 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You are right, their starting backcourt is soft.

But Shumpert is a defensive stud! He totally changed the complexion of the game and he played 37 min. Anything Wall accomplished with Shumpert guarding him was earned the hard way.

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by Krusty2 on Jan 7, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

In defense of Flip

he kept Rashard on the bench the entire 4th quarter, using Booker and Singleton instead. I kind of liked seeing Blatche and Booker playing together.

by hotplate on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think our biggest mistake this offseason

was not finding a veteran backup PG. Wall can’t keep playing 43 minutes a game. Mack isn’t ready and JCraw just isn’t good enough.

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by adamvolo on Jan 7, 2012 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

I don't see why we don't play Mack

Mack’s shot hasn’t been falling, but he’s run the offense very nice. I see no reason why he shouldn’t be getting 15 min a game behind Wall…

That’s on Flip though, he’s the one who would rather place Jordan Crawford at the position of holding the very ball he loves shooting oh so very much. Even Gilbert Arenas had more control than Crawford, no way you can place JC at the point in a half court set.

by gray16 on Jan 7, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

There was a poll on this a month or so ago

When free agency started he said finding a vet PG was something they were looking for. There was a poll on the site and most of the respondents favored other positions of need.

I guess he saw the results of the poll here on Bullets Forever and decided to get Mo Evans and Roger Mason instead.

by kigaro on Jan 7, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think it was the biggest priority to this day

We know now that Crawford is turrible at the point but we wouldn’t have known if we didn’t play him there, would we?

I’ll go a step further and say we should continue to play him there, albeit giving Mack the first stint off the bench to spell Wall (who btw shouldn’t play more that 33 minutes a night or so). Crawford should get the minutes behind Young and a few behind John, playing 20+ minutes a game imho. I know losing is hard and I know it’s hard to watch him play right now, but we absolutely have to see what he is made of and if he can turn it around to see if he can be part of our future or not.

However, we shouldn’t just give him the minutes. That’s what Mason is here for. If Crawford puts up stupendous shots, continues to help D while it’s not needed leaving a Bibby wide open, or just flat out can’t seem to be able to walk the ball up court without taking 18 seconds of the shot clock, he should sit. The coaches should immediately be in his face about it and force him to watch film and make him earn the minutes.

Let the kids play! Let them make mistakes but force them to learn from it. Show themwhat they are doing wrong, explain to them how they should be doing it and use PT to reinforce good behavior. Thát’s developing young players

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lewis & Crawford

They need to be moved to the end of the bench.
Where is Mack?
Crawford can’t run the point. His shot is MIA. He needs to rest for a couple of games.
Lewis -— Veteran stabilizing piece? Someone the young guys can learn from?? He needs to sit next to Crawford.
Kevin a work in progress but he is getting work. He won’t get better sitting next to Lewis. And who else is gonna spell Javale?
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by VBfan on Jan 7, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Spelling Javale

I’ve never thought much of Seraphin’s game and don’t feel that he can do the job as backup center. I’m hoping the Dray of the Knicks and the Celtics games is the one that we will continue to see. So I advocate using a 3 man power forward/center rotation similar to how Flip is handling the guard rotation. Have Booker be the first off the bench, spelling Javale at the 4 minute mark (his usual break time), moving Andray over to center. When McGee comes back, he replaces Andray. This rotation will lead to more minutes for Booker and well as Singleton and Vesely since Booker won’t be getting as many minutes at small forward. On the other hand, I might reconsider the guard rotation and give Mack more time at PG instead of Crawford. Although, you gotta admit, it’s cool that Crawford is always looking for the alley oop with his big men.

by hotplate on Jan 7, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Totally Agree

Rotate them all down low tight and fast.
Have to say though Seraphin plays a smart, hard physical style and has made good strides from last year. He banged in there for 10 Min’s and didn’t foul out and 2 of the 3 he picked up were good smart fouls.

Would anybody ever drive the drive the paint more than once with McGee, Booker, and Seraphin lurking in there? In Fact- that should be JW’s drill. Drive on those 3, 15 times in three sets. Would be good for all four of them:-)

by DCPerspective on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see the big progression in Seraphin's game you see but I agree he should get some minutes.

My rotation would look something like this:

PG Wall (32) Mack (12) Crawford (4)
SG Young (32) Crawford (16)
SF Singleton (32) Vesely (16)
PF Blatche (16) Booker (24) Seraphin (8)
C McGee (32) Blatche (16)

If Young or Crawford is not following the game plan or just flat out suck, plug in Mason
If Singleton or Vesely are messing up, plug in Evans
If Blatche is mailing it in, plug in Lewis at the 4 and play small ball with Booker/Seraphin taking minutes at the 5.

Using the minutes distribution as a teaching tool and using the vets to plug in if a young gun wonders of the right track.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We can definitley beat the TWolves!

Must win for Flipper, lose Sunday and it’s possible we’ll pile up 6 more losses before you know it. The TWolves really arent that good despite the Rubio highlights. Got handled by the Cavs at home last night and Beasley got hurt. Grown Ass Man would like nothing more than battling Love all night and we can definitely put Singleton on Derrick Williams.

Get the rotations right and we’ll win it Flip!

by DCrez on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Coulda, woulda, shouda...

…I’m less interested in the score versus the Wolves, than seeing Singleton on Derrick Williams every minute Williams is in the game. The Wizards might have a real stud in Singleton. They ought to put together a comprehensive development plan for him if he can stay with Williams, starting with a personal coach. A good coach will pay for himself ten times over if he can develop Singleton into a star. Williams will be a star so he’s a good benchmark for Singleton, both being rookies in the NBA.

On the other hand, I would not invest time and effort in some of the other players such as Seraphin. He’s got too much of chasm to cross to be NBA-ready. I’d say Booker is borderline, but worth a strong look at over the next 10 or 20 games to see if he’s worth a more intense development plan.

Finally, it’s hard to figure if they have anything with Vesely. Hopefully, he’ll be on the floor soon.

Given that Ted keeps saying that we’re rebuilding, it’s surprising that there is not more talk of development plans for a short list of key personnel.

by Izman on Jan 7, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

tiny sample size, but Singleton is 5-10 from 3pt land

3D guy already? Flip has some interesting choices to make, with Ves out Singleton has absolutely established he deserves PT and needs to be on the floor. But now Ves is back….only solution is to say ’Shard is hurt and sit him down.

by DCrez on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Forget that...

“Rashard isn’t hustling. We are changing the line-up. We are starting Singleton who has earned the spot based on his performance”

(message-you can be benched no matter how much you are paid, with very little long term impact)

Flip has to know when to send a message.

by DavidDunn on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

oh and we absolutely need a win

it’s fine we suck, but 0-12 etc screws with everyone in the organization as desperation grows for W. Gotta get a dub somewhere soon

by DCrez on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Wall is fine just had bad couple of games he is our star don’t worry just give it time and he needs shooters boint blank to space the floor

by Wall is a Player on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

i liked how he played last night

right now what he does best is push the ball and it works when he isnt missing layups

by DCrez on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It definitely looks like Dray needs to close out there

but if we were playing not to switch on screens, Dray expected Booker to fight through the pick and stick with Melo. So by the book, Dray did the right thing, if he would have pressed up on Melo, it would have been an easy give and go to Amare. It’s unfortunate that Booker got hit in the eye because he was right on Melo and would have made it a very tough contested shot.

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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 7, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

That's a reply to DCrez

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 7, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

they killed dray on the replay

Dray clearly sees Book get hit and lose Melo, watches Melo set up for a take an uncontested 3. Javale is in good position to impede Amare if Melo made that pass as Dray closes on him

by DCrez on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wall took a great shot just rushed it and also Wall got fouled on all of his drives to the basket just no calls. As far as jumpshot he just has to stop fading he fades which messes with his release point need repitition with it and he will be fine. Wall is our star but remember they dont play to his strengths need to play uptempo like lastnight so he can get on the break and also play mason with young more floor space put him and javale in pick and roll and now he can drive or lob to Vale or hit the two shooters make sense

by Wall is a Player on Jan 7, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

How come nobody is talking about Singleton's missed putback at the end?

3.7 seconds left, he snags the rebound three feet from the hoop with nobody on him and does a weird little step-back air ball. I guess he thought time was expiring, no?

Bullets fan stuck in CO.

by Krusty2 on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

He does seem to be getting the yips a little bit now and then inside 15 feet, but he’s 7 games into his NBA career. Nothing to worry about yet.

by steadyhand on Jan 7, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

they dont play to his strengths need to play uptempo like lastnight so he can get on the break and also play mason with young more floor space put him and javale in pick and roll and now he can drive or lob to Vale or hit the two shooters make sense

I completely agree with this, except for playing Mason to much (in theory that’s what Lewis is for, Mason can do it and Singleton is doing a good job at it too).

Pure fast breaks don’t seem to be a point of emphasis and secondary breaks seem completely non existent because Flip is barking out a set play which always seems to be a post iso (Blatche, Lewis, McGee) or a down screen for Nick. There is almost no ball movement after that initial play. Pure fast breaks almost only happen if Wall gets a rebound himself or is accidently standing next to the rebounder.

The Wall, McGee high pick and roll, with shooters in the corner and blatche in the high post on the weak side is seldomly used. This should be our most effective halfcourt play imho

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

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