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Knicks Vs. Wizards Preview: Meet Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire And Gotham's Band Of Misfits

The New York Knicks come into Verizon Center as one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league. Let's meet them!

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Are they good in general?: Not really. They're off to a 2-4 start and they just lost to the Charlotte Bobcats at home. They actually have a losing record since acquiring Carmelo Anthony at the trade deadline last year.

Are they good against the Wizards? This version of the Knicks has not played the Wizards yet.

Are they fast or slow? This is a team coached by Mike D'Antoni, so they should be fast. Instead, they're somewhere in the middle of the pack. That's what happens when you have Anthony and no guards.

Are they especially good at anything? Well, they do have Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire, and those two like to go one-on-one. They're also both pretty good at it. Probably explains why the Knicks are tops in the league at free-throw rate.

Are they especially bad at anything? DE-FENSE (clap clap clap!). DE-FENSE (clap clap clap!).

Are there any people involved with the organization that Mike really likes? Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler. Oh.

Are there any people involved with the organization that Mike really doesn't like? I didn't realize the Knicks had to throw in Landry Fields' talent to complete the Anthony trade

Are there any players poised for a breakout? There's always Toney Douglas, but he's pretty miscast as a true point guard right now.

Are there any players the Wizards especially need to worry about? Anthony and Stoudemire is a good start, but also, don't sag off Tyson Chandler too much. If the Knicks ever look for him, he's a threat as the roll man. JaVale McGee needs to stay disciplined.

Is their mascot cool? Man, Spike Lee looks so realistic! It's almost as if he's a real person!

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AP Photo/Julio Cortez

Any other random quirks? Wonder if Ted invited Spike again.

Game thread at 6:30, recap right after the game. GO WIZARDS!

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At the spike lee/mascot comment

Duck Fallas!!

by believe_the_curse on Jan 6, 2012 4:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

the Mgee pick and roll thing is interesting

Chandler caugt a bunch of lobs against the Wizards with the Mavs but I have not understoo how its Mchee’s fault.

If he shows out and traps the pg then its the rotation of the defense thats at fault.

If he hedges out and recovers then its possible the pg gets to the basket if Wall recovers slowly.

Wizards could win this game the Knicks are disjoined they have awful ball movemet horrible on defense ,

If the Wizads can just string together a couple quarters of playing together tonight could be the night.

by jazzy1 on Jan 6, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

i really though the knicks would re-acquire Felton

he was awesome for D’antoni system and would make this Knicks team much much better.

At home vs a no-defense team….this is great opportunity for the Wiz to get a win. Do it guys!

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

would be glorious

if it happens im getting hammered for sure

by Wizards Khalifa on Jan 6, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Shumpert has been playing well. Not sure if he is healthy right now but he's a tough matchup for Wall.

He’s slightly bigger and just about as athletic. Plays great on the ball defense. Similar to Wall, if he ever learns to shoot, he will be a great player.

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 6, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

nice Spike Lee jab

he really is a cartoon, isn’t he?

by wizards24 on Jan 6, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Let's remember Spike Lee Twitter post today.

“Da Orange And Blue Play Winless Washington Wizards Tonight.If We Lose I’m Gonna Throw A Garbage Can Thru Sal’s Famous AGAIN.”

I hope the Wizards DO THE RIGHT THING tonight…

by SLay931 on Jan 6, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

It would be funnier if he had to give Ted intense fellatio after the game.

by Bread Lover on Jan 6, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

ouch... bad visual...

Mike’s line about Landry Fields’ talent being included in the Denver deal is line of the day as far as I am concerned.

If we have to lose this one, let it be clearly because we got outcoached.

by khrabb on Jan 6, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha

‘intense’ thats a adjective u dont hear to describe that very often

by KurisuDevil on Jan 6, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Wizards will win tonight

I’m not going to be able to watch. The team only wins when I’m not looking. Bank on it.

by sierradave on Jan 6, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

Ditto for me

Taking the wifey out for date night. Win or lose, I’m scoring tonight.

by Unselds on Jan 6, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

at the end of the day...

that’s all that matters.
I’m not sure about the next morning though.

Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.

by BM22 on Jan 6, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

C'mon, Mike

Don’t hate on the Eastern Conference multi-rookie of the month

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 6, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Ahahah funniest thing

Deveney asked Wizards General Manager Ernie Grunfeld if Coach Flip Saunders is the right man for the task of leading this inexperienced team, and Grunfeld said, "Flip is an outstanding coach. His record speaks for itself."

by KurisuDevil on Jan 6, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

I am all for replacing Flip. but with whom?

seriously, what good, defensive-minded coach out there will be willing to take this job?

by wizards24 on Jan 6, 2012 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

It pains me to say

they didn’t say much wrong… pretty much covered both sides of the argument about Wall

a) he can’t play with these poor teammates
b) he’s not as good as he believes he is

by gray16 on Jan 6, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

They didnt say he thinks he’s better than he is. They talked abt his bad shooting and TO’s and needing to slow down. And most disturbing, Wilbon co-signed him leaving ASAP

by KurisuDevil on Jan 6, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I took the slow down comment as

play within yourself, and I take not doing that as playing outside of yourself (believing you can blow past everybody and score aka believing you are better than you are).

And Wilbon saying that doesn’t surprise me, that’s the persona he takes on TV. Me personally, I don’t care, if John wants to leave, let him leave, we need a person who wants to be here. But, I don’t really believe John wants to leave, I think he just wants better teammates. And he does need better teammates, but Ernie and Ted need to make him realize, this is not his team, this is Washington D.C.‘s team, and the moves are made to make the team better, not to please him. My biggest worry is that Ted and Ernie are babying Wall, and going to worry about him more than the team, just like the Cavs did, and Magic are doing. Hopefully they wake up and see where that has gotten those teams, and don’t fall into the same mistakes.

by gray16 on Jan 6, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Knicks need Gilbert

Toney Douglas, but he’s pretty miscast as a true point guard right now.

Surprised Gilbert hasn’t been mentioned by them.
He’d be perfect in the Big Apple.

by VBfan on Jan 6, 2012 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

They signed the amnestied Baron Davis

who brings much more leadership and maturity to the squad, and who in recent years is playing better than Gil. I don’t think they are looking at Gil at all tbh.

by gray16 on Jan 6, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to change the front office and coach

But Leonsis doesn’t realize this and that we need to rid ourselves of Blatche and JC. So like the Redskins we need to reach a new low. I’m talking Jim Zorn bad. In order for this franchise to have a good future we have to fire EVERYONE. In order for that to happen we need to lose. It’s sad, but true.

Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.

by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 6, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

via Craig Stouffer

Flip on #Wizards playing Jan Vesely vs #Knicks: “If the circumstances feel right, I wouldn’t object to getting his feet wet a little bit.”

Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.

by BM22 on Jan 6, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It really means nothing...

Flip will just take it back anyway. Same old, same old.

Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.

by BM22 on Jan 6, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha on the take it back

but I disagree…what coach would not be excited to get his #6 lottery pick into the lineup on a winless team

His hedge means he shouldnt play or he cant play

by les boulez bomber on Jan 6, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Flip really is excited to put Jan in.

but there is this doubt that comes knowing his 8 -9 player rotation system.

In any case, I want Dunks!

Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.

by BM22 on Jan 6, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that definitely means he sucks right now.

he’s either healthy and can play or not. Flip isnt liking what he sees in practice…I hope he gets in, he’ll get some dunks tonight

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Being healthy and game ready is not the same

He didn’t practice for over a week and they haven’t had much time to get him back on the practice floor.

I can understand why Flip is a bit cautious to through him out there. Not because he ain’t healthy or sucks, just because he is coming back from injury while not having a normal TC already. Besides, there is no need to rush the kid.

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 6, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

True but

If it were a matter or conditioning, he would say something to the fact he is planning to try to get him in there for a couple minutes to get his feet wet.

You dont lose shape in two weeks if you were in shape to begin with. It takes six weeks to lose six months of shape. So if that is the case, he entered the season out of shape- wonderful

by les boulez bomber on Jan 6, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nonsense. Good condition and good health both arent the same as being game ready.

I know nothing about Vesely’s conditioning but I do know (from personal experience) that being healthy and conditioned is a whole other animal than being able to perform in a game.

The only thing that helps that is playing in games so yes, he should get out there but matching him up with Melo or Amare in a close game after having a crisis players-only meeting is not ideal.

In light of the above and the fact that there is no other reason to push him out there at all cost, I agree with Flip not playing him yesterday.

The next two games he should get some burn, but bring him slowely. 5 minutes to start the second quarter and 5 minutes early in the third or something like that. If he gets his legs under him and his play warrents it, you can give him a bit more burn. In a week or two he should be able to be as good as it’s gonna get his rookie year and then we can start crusifying him verbally if he sucks.

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 7, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh Flip

Your ability to create evasive answers never fails to amaze me…

by gray16 on Jan 6, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Booker is half his size lol

Singleton has more length, Booker can play Melo and switch positions with Singleton on offense if they are on the floor.

btw, last year when we played our 1st game against the Knicks (in NY), I remember Blatche had a field day against Amare offensively.

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 6, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

We really shouldn't act like NY is a beatable team. We are 0-6

We can’t win from the Nets. We ARE the most dysfunctional team in the league. I think think we are in no place to be pretentious about this game.

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 6, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

Just saying that we could very easily suffer a blow out loss again tonight

They have better talent than we do. Sure, they have chemistry problems, have a big need at PG currently and lack defense in general.

They did hire a defensive coordinator and added Chandler. It didn’t click yet but they are adjusting on the fly. A game against the worst offensive team is the perfect game to get some stuff working on that end and on the other end they have freaking Melo and STAT!

They are a much better team than we are in terms of talent and it’s just a matter of time they get their act together. A game against the ‘Winless Wizards’ is the ultimate occasion for that, I guess is what I’m saying.

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 6, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

not being pretentious but we cant be quite as bad as we've been....can we?

here’s a team that plays no defense and we played ok last season at home, all our guys should be on the same page for at least this one night (they did have a 15min meeting afterall)….this just feels like a situation where we should be able to put it together and get a win

by DCrez on Jan 6, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a funny one via Craig Stouffer again

More Flip on #Wizards, #Knicks being similar: “You’re into the 7th game for both teams and it’s a must-win. For us, it’s a must-play-well.”

Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.

by BM22 on Jan 6, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

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