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The Emergence Of Chris Singleton May Mean Less Minutes For Andray Blatche

Last season we could count on three things pretty much all season. Javale McGee would get the hook faster than Yankees and Cowboys fans can throw on their Heat jerseys, there would be a chorus of "YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!" at some point, while John Wall and Andray Blatche would log 35+ minutes. It looks like Flip isn't about to stop giving John all the minutes he can handle, but his confidence in Chris Singleton has interesting ramifications.

"I think that because of him [Singleton], we will have the ability now to play Rashard [Lewis] at some 4, too," Saunders said. "It will give a different look in how we play, and it will stretch the floor. That will help John [Wall] in pick-and-roll situations."

Flip Saunders via CSN Washington

Those minutes at the 4 will come at the expense of someone. With Trevor Booker getting barely any burn, the player who stands to lose the most play time is our erstwhile captain. But that might not be the worst thing in the world for 7-Day.

Star-divide

I introduced the pruning metaphor with respect to the lineup and Flip agrees Chris' play demands court time. Where is it going to come from? Not out of John Wall's pocket. Flip is invested in Jordan Crawford's success and he'd be crazy to sit Nick Young. He can cut some of those minutes from Rashard Lewis and keep his legs fresher. If his production in Atlanta is any indication of what we can expect in limited minutes from him, then sign me up.

The first thing I thought when I envisioned Andray Blatche's role on a contending team several years ago was, 'He could be our Lamar Odom.' The kind of guy who could go from having a reputation as a one-in-fiver to the kind of guy Amar'e Stoudemire could bitterly comment had 'a lucky game' after a playoff defeat. And who knows, maybe he could be the starting PF on a Washington contender.

Of course, it's difficult to justify any of our players getting more than 30 minutes with the way the season has gone thus far. It's easy to remember the stretch Andray was injured last year, and the team struggled to put points on the board. It's even easier to remember Andray complaining about needing touches in the paint when the team runs isos for him resulting in the same soft jumpers from 18 feet. Not hard to conclude neither side is satisfied with things as they are.

Personally, Andray seems like he would be best in an established offence where his good (but not elite) yet broad skill set could flourish in the human swiss army knife role Odom perfected with the Lakers. After six years in the league, we can assume Andray knows what he does well. When Flip takes away some of his minutes (and the pressure that comes with being heavily featured), we can hope Dray will start to play within himself and become the kind of player a contender needs.

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we can hope Dray will start to play within himself and become the kind of player a contender needs.

Do you mean building up his trade value or do you mean for us?

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 3, 2012 7:25 AM EST reply actions  

Critical reading, excellent

Either situation is viable for pretty much any non-franchise player. I’d love to keep him if he can make that leap

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 3, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I know you wrote this before last night, but a couple points

Crawford sat long stints with Wittman coaching. Wonder if Flip will do the same.

Blatche injured his foot. He could see less minutes.

Booker is likely to see an increase in minutes due to the Turiaf injury.

But none of that changes your key point that we could be seeing Singleton more, but remember Vessely will get minutes as well.

The optimistic view is he will play Friday.

by DavidDunn on Jan 3, 2012 7:34 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Booker or Seraphin?

I think Seraphin will get most of Turiaf’s minutes if not all. Booker doesn’t really play the 5.

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by Dalp on Jan 3, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Move Blatche to bench

Singleton to 3, Lewis to 4. Bring Blatche in at 7 or 8 minute mark for Lewis at PF, then bring Book in when Javale tires and slide Blatche to the 5 spot. Continue rotating in this manner until the 4th when Javale and AB can both finish games along with whichever hot hand at the SF spot.

by Mr. E on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

He’s not good at a lot of things but he can clearly play the 3 or 4.

by Mr. E on Jan 3, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He can play the 4

Next to Howard. If McGee’s rebounding improves, maybe, but right now, we’d lose a lot on the board. Singleton might help a bit, since he has good size.

by GJennings on Jan 4, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

Even though Crawford did sit for long stretches, it seems like I was facepalming every second he was on the court.

by Marine4Life51 on Jan 3, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm
  • No idea…we all know Randy Wittman is no fan of “moxie”
  • Flip was playing Rashard heavy minutes even with that bum knee last year. The foot (especially on a 7 footer) should keep him off the floor more…but it probably won’t.
  • Agreed re: Booker if Flip slides Andray to the 5
  • With Flip on the record with Singleton earning court time…should Vesely earn it as well, the drop off in Dray’s PT could border on precipitous

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 3, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Some stats

Here are some stats to consider. http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/wsh/washington-wizards

Singleton is scoring more per shot than any other Wiz. I’d like to see him get more minutes. I’d also like to see if Vesely brings anything to the party.

As an aside, McGee has the highest PER of any center in the league who has played 3 or more games. Dwight Howard and Spencer Hawes are not far behind. Anyway, it would be hard to argue that McGee isn’t a top 10 center this year, and he is still improving at 23 years of age.

by Izman on Jan 3, 2012 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

I saw the same PER stats. Pretty shocking.

As always with Javale, let’s hope he keeps it going.

by YellaFella on Jan 3, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

If JVM becomes a legitimate double double guy, with a couple of blocks and smarter defense for the whole year, We’ll have to build to boat for his load of money.

by imperialme on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

we've got the cap room and an owner who says he'll spend when it's time

so really shouldnt be an issue, if Mcgee plays that well. The tougher thing will be if he has an up-and-down season and it’s not clear cut the type of player he’s on his way to being

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Sample Size is way too small

I want more minutes for Singleton, but the number is highly inflated by the fact that he’s shooting 50% from 3pt land. While I’d like to think that stay the same… something tells me it won’t.

by GJennings on Jan 3, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Way too early to draw conclusions. But they are some encouraging numbers.

by YellaFella on Jan 3, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: Singleton

it may last, probably won’t, and it’s still important to keep the volume scorer dynamic Rook mentioned with respect to Nick Young in mind, CSing is playing within himself…and yes, it is awesome

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 3, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn't it nice..

..to have word “intangibles” apply to a Wizard’s player without having to qualify it. Singleton plays smart on offense so far.

by GJennings on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah usually praising Wiz players with "intangibles" translates to

“sucks at most everything but tries hard”

really hope Singleton continues to get burn after Ves joins the lineup

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

as some folks noted last season, Javale is the best player on the team.

this entire season’s success or failure boils down to how much development Flip can coax out of Wall and Mcgee, they’re our guys, they’re our shot at actually being a contender eventually. I’m happy to lose games for the sake of using this season to fully explore both their offensive games. If Javale and John are our 2 leading scorers this year, that’s a success in my book. This season has to be about helping our two core pieces find their way in the league.

And of course Ted ensuring that Vale wants to stay so developing him isnt all for naught…

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Wish there was some evidence of Wall and McGee playing well together.

In theory, they’re made for each other. In practice, they don’t seem to be in sync.

Compare Wall/JaVale vs Wall/Turiaf.

by yop32 on Jan 3, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd say it's noticeable that Wall does not look for Mcgee the way Crawford does.

and you’ve pointed out Mcgee being in Wall’s way….some folks have noted a strain in their relationship since last season, who knows if that’s true or not, but if they are both professional about everything, they’ll get there

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Enough of Lewis at the 4

He’s a three, we have an advantage with him posting other three’s down low….it didn’t work in Orlando, why try it here…stop the nonsense. And FREE MACK….he may have been the difference between a win/loss last night. Crawford cracked the door and boston kicked it in. Mack has 4 years of college experience and two championship experiences. are we afraid he may manage the game better than wall? play the kid.

by dmv4life on Jan 3, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

FREE MACK

He shudda spelled Crawford after 2 series with JC running the point. Game turned then.
Lewis just doesn’t look right.
Let’s hope Javales game doesn’t revert to dribblemania and Blatche type fadeaway jumpers.
Last night was the best loss of the season.
If we can lose like this the rest of the season I’ll be happy.

by VBfan on Jan 3, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

crawford and lewis

crawford should be the third option at point and Lewis should be posting other threes on the block, bad player mgmt.

I really believe that if Mack played more, there would be a controversy (sp) at the point.

by dmv4life on Jan 3, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Really dude?

I like Mack, but come on now.

by Unselds on Jan 3, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Crawford has looked bad

But, let’s hope it’s a funk. He had a pretty fantastic game against Miami last year and looked like a player we could build on. Granted his FG% declined, but his decision making was acceptable.

Now, he’s just playing like a reckless ball-hog half the time. Let’s hope Sam can bring him around.

by GJennings on Jan 3, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

He had a pretty fantastic game against Miami last year and looked like a player we could build on.

Let’s dissect that statement right there…. and let’s go back in time to look at the circumstances behind that game, and the next one where Crawford had his triple-double.

In the Miami game, John Wall was ejected 15 minutes into the game for throwing a punch at Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Leading scorer Nick Young was not playing because of an injured knee. For reasons that I don’t remember, second leading scorer Andray Blatche did not start – and only played 27 minutes…. Instead, Yi Jinlian started (0 points in 20 minutes)

So in that Miami game, Crawford was it… He played in the back court mostly with Othyus Jeffers and Cartier Martin all night and Crawford was the entire offense most of the night.. He was asked to bring the ball up…. set up the offense… score a lot… and set up teammates; and he did a very good job of it…

The next game is when Crawford scored his triple-double. Of course, that is the same game that John Wall served his suspension for the Ilgauskas incident. Another night when the Wizards needed Crawford to do everything…..

Crawford has been great when he is the focus of the offense. When he has the ball in his hands all the time… He can create shots for himself and his teammates. He can, and DOES, shoot a lot. And in those two games, he shot a lot, and made a lot of shots (20-42 for 48%)

The entire rest of the year he shot 38% from the field….

My concern is that Crawford may never be comfortable being 2nd or 3rd option on the team. He may never get used to playing off the ball. He may never curb his natural instincts to shoot first, and worry about whether it’s a good shot later.

I HOPE that Flip can work some of the same magic he worked on Nick Young…. I HOPE that Flip can teach Crawford to be a better catch-and-shoot guy… to learn how to curl off screens…. to cut down (or eliminate) the wildly inefficient bad shots – I HOPE that Flip can turn Crawford into a solid core piece for the team to build around….

I hope……………….

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by Rook6980 on Jan 3, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope, too. But I'm not sure yet how coachable Crawford is.

Will he listen and learn? Hard to tell from the so-far-small sample.

by YellaFella on Jan 3, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well hopefully

If his game doesn’t change…

There will be a sixth man role where he can step in and jack shots and maybe create too, with a green light. In limited minutes. I mean, that’s how Jason Terry is. That’s really the best comparison I have for Crawford and optimistically what his role will become. I don’t know why Crawford can’t be exactly that though.

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by returnofswagger on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not a big fan of Shard at the 4, either...

Flip’s probably planning on Dray spelling McGee at the 5, Shard at the 4, and Sing at the 3

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 3, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see more of Dray at the 5, just to see how it goes.

Body fat can actually be an asset in a C. Extra weight is extra “normal force” which allows you to push harder to carve out space before your footing starts to give. Fat can help a center take and hold position. One piece of evidence: slimmed down Kendrick Perkins’ rebounding is down by a third.

by yop32 on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll be interested to see how Vesely plays, too.

He’s played professionally for awhile, and Singleton played three years in college, which is abnormal for a first-round pick these days. Both of these rookies have significant experience, which could translate into a quicker learning curve at this level.

by YellaFella on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Also a lower ceiling, wich is why the freshmen and sophomores get picked earlier

I agree though with the call to let Singleton play more, even if Vesely starts playing. Those minutes should come at the cost of Lewis and Blatche imho.

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 3, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

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by DMVLeGenD on Jan 3, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we cut him a little slack

After he put up 28 points on 50% shooting. I’m not saying he didn’t have his usual defensive lapses and subpar rebounding, but “anybody” taking minutes….

Dray has bad conditioning and would do better with reduced minutes. But, he’s not completely clueless despite what his tweeter account would suggest.

by GJennings on Jan 3, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course we have to play the youngsters... but which ones?

Almost certainly, Mack would have been of more help last night than Crawford as the back-up point.

Clearly, Blatche and Lewis have played too many minutes. We need more Singleton, Booker and Seraphin.

But who will convert Wall’s passes into assists? And what about the Arenas hypothesis regarding putting some experienced hands around Wall, lest he crash and burn. When is Evans coming back?

by khrabb on Jan 3, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

the arenas hypothesis

that was very evident in the closing minutes of last night’s game…truly unraveled……But flip stated the “Chemistry goes through JWall”…..poor kid.

by dmv4life on Jan 3, 2012 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

why didnt they get Javale some FGAs?

Why did all of our perimeter guys, including Wall, resort to crappy, contested Js that dommed us? I really hope Flip addresses that with the team. They are all young so you can only expect so much poise, but they COMPLETELY abandon the offense down the stretch and go hero ball

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Vesely....We Need You Buddy!!!!

Just want to see what you’ve got.

Signed: Washington Wizards Fan

Redskins @RGIII - 2012

by Copious 1 on Jan 3, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I think Singleton's minutes will come at the expense of Booker.

The starters will get heavy, playoff-type minutes as Flip tries to get some wins, and the bench will divide up the rest.

by djnnnou on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

what are tehse reports i'm hearing about Wall's poor attitude

inside sources suggesting that flip and wall have clashed some, and that mcgee, blatche and wall have been identified as selfish players…i havent seen any of this on this site…

by jasonj on Jan 3, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

You can listen

to a podcast of the show here

It’s the third segment down:
1/3 Seg. 10- Dew Year countdown, Wizards are winless

If you want to get past all the silliness…. and go right to the Wizards stuff, skip to 8:20

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by Rook6980 on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

anybody read that Daily News article? I havent seen it

but they quoted an anonymous team official stating that Wall only cares about his numbers….i would hope they are full of shit

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Andray

He got 28 & 9 boards.
You have to play him.
But you also have to yank him when he just reverts to Bad Blatche.
These loses don’t bother me as much as the ones where there isn’t any intensity or hustle.
Looking forward to seeing what Vesely has.

by VBfan on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

if you pull him when he "reverts"

his games will look like:

11pts/5rebs/20min

by DCrez on Jan 3, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

nice to see the Wiz put in a good 44 minutes of effort

maybe someday they’ll get to 48. they won’t win . . . but a full game would be nice!

by dmor20 on Jan 3, 2012 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

I've always hated

…. the time management Flip uses on his players- especially Drey.
Drey probably will be more productive with less minutes if handled right.
His productivity and value plummets when he gets tired but Flip pushes him towards 40 minutes all the time. Drop it to 30, with clean limits like 6-8min per q first half, 8-10m per q second half and Drey will be more productive. Especially at the end of the games.

by DCPerspective on Jan 3, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with this

people are fooling themselves if they think somehow Blatche is best suited on this team in a go to role it only helps Blatche try and gun for number it kills the team. He doen’t have those attiributes in the way we are using him. He’s not a good scorer he doesn’t have the motor fitness or physical edge to force his will on opponents night in and out and should have been adapted his game around an Odom type model.

I think Mcgee is better suited to carry a heavier scoring burden then Blatche can simply because he has a physical advantage most every night and its starting to show up on the regular now that he has a hook shot to turn to. He’s cat quick in the post and jumps out the gym. He’s taking his time now using good footwork and should be give way more touches.

Blatche can get buckets occasionally but should never be featured. He should and would be on a good team be part of an ensemble as a chip in guy.

Blatche needs his minutes cut beause he’s one of the worst players in the league once fatigue kicks in. Hiss minutes should always be monitored closely

But per as usual Mcgee will get snatched randomly at the drop of the hat Nick and Blatche will force shots and Wall our actual best player will be forced to try and figure out a way to help his inefficient scoring duo get better shots they can mess up.

by jazzy1 on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

If a team is like gardening

A garden needs tending and care. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.Spring is the time for planting.In a garden, growth has its season as long as the roots are not severed, all is well, and all will be well in the garden.. But all is well and all will be well in the garden. In the spring, everything will be better in the garden. IMHO.

by hambonejackson on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Points to a bigger point

I agree completely that Singleton deserves more minutes. So too do Booker and Seraphin. And Vesely will, almost certainly merit some heavy minutes when he starts playing. But the bigger point I think is, in this compressed season with so many back-to-back games, no player, including Wall, should regularly be logging more than 30-35 minutes a game. The physical toll on the players will be hard enough even if everyone’s minutes are kept within reasonable limits. Last night, for example, it was foolish to play Blatche, Wall and Lewis (!) 38-plus minutes. You would think that with this team’s injury record over the past several seasons, the coaching staff, more than anyone, would understand this.

Moreover, the primary goal this season is player development, even more than wins and losses. We need to know which of our young players has the capacity to become long-term fixtures and which look less likely to be contributors in the seasons ahead. It’s a lot harder to make these projections and for players to develop their skills if they’re only playing a handful of minutes a game. Booker and Singleton should be playing as many, if not more, minutes as Lewis who is clearly not a part of the Wizards’ long-term future. I understand that Ernie & Co. may be trying to showcase Rashard to potential trading partners but they can do that just as well if Rashard were playing 15-20 minutes a game (and they’d serve Rashard and his knees a whole lot better in the bargain).

by Koperro on Jan 3, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

Rashard playing the 4 is all on Singleton

At least the team being competitive. We all know he’s undersized and aging and his body type does nothing in relief of McGee at the center position. This is why if Singleton can add some rebounding/toughness and heady help defense down low, it can work (especially with JaVale continued improvement).

This will also be huge because it will open up the entire offense. Wall with have options everywhere with Young/Mason, Lewis and Singleton able to hit the 3 and McGee for the lob if the defense doesn’t collapse on the pick and roll. Let’s see it through Flip.

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by qthaballa on Jan 4, 2012 2:46 AM EST reply actions  

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