Flip Saunders, Competing Cultures, Yard Sales And The Psychology Of Institutionalized Losing
I had several ideas for today's column, started and stopped a dozen times. Ty Lawson's comments touched off another major media rant about our favorite team that Dan Steinberg was kind enough to transcribe. I was immediately in a funk and I wasn't sure why.
The Wizards over the last several games (before last night) have been playing pro ball like a pro team. My fandom has been inspired by the relentless effort from the team. I could catalogue my reasons for feeling this way, but I won't.
There are those who scoff at the taint of institutionalized losing. Whether it can be proven or disproven is irrelevant. It is real because it exists in the minds of the players that make up the institution and thus institutionalized losing is absolutely real. As they say:
Cosmo: While in prison, I learned everything in this world, including money, operates not on reality...
Marty: ...but on the perception of reality.
This is part of the war Flip Saunders is fighting. Any institutionalized culture flourishes by tacit consent. Money, treaties, family ties ... these are valueless abstracts unless we say otherwise. Affecting change requires buy-in across the board sustained by massive, concerted effort. I believed we'd seen the beginnings of that effort prior to Monday night's effort against the 76ers.
While I tune out most of the streamlined-for-your-consumption major media, I know the team listens to them, remember that PTI incident? The last thing I want a team showing some guts and commitment pre All-Star break, listening to is a front-running personality going cherry picking with all the credibility his network can afford him. That brand of voice, especially come playoff-time, loves parroting the cliche, "You're only as good as you're last game." I'm sure that will hold true after the latest blowout.
Until the team buys into an identity that assigns zero importance to the latest line on the 'tube, every nasty missive on television will spawn one more hydra's head for Flip and Co. to deal with. And they do have to deal with it. Because every doubt in each player's head is one more obstacle that must be overcome. And it isn't just a matter of getting them to buy into the new culture once.
You've seen home gym advertisements, heard motivational speakers, read a how-to book, something that got you fired up to pursue a goal but a few weeks, days, hours later you were right back at McDonald's, doing the same things the same way on the job, watching the brain box, or whatever it was you were doing before. You stopped buying in and you were right back to playing hero ball in the fourth quarter. It's what's easy. I was guilty of it when I jumped on Xbox live when I should have been studying kyudo. A buddy called me out as we hopped on Halo: Reach and I replied, 'Yeah, but this is what I know.'
This seems to be the primary cause behind every call to sever the past completely and jettison Andray Blatche, Javale McGee and Nick Young. All have shown varying degrees of unwillingness to embrace what I'll coin as 'ending up at the yard sale.' Remember when we talked about the perception of reality as a controlling factor in the world and related that to the value of money?
Let's say Nick Young is holding a yard sale. Flip Saunders shows up with playing time to spend. It might go something like this:
Coach S: How much for the distance shooting?
Young For The Money: 30 minutes a game.
CS: [chuckles]: 25.
YFTM: Well...
CS: If you're shooting those off screens. And give me solid man defense.
YFTM: That's not for sale.
CS: Then I'll spend my playing time somewhere else. [turns to leave]
YFTM: Wait! ...if I give you all of that...35.
CS: 25. I know we just traded Kirk Hinrich, but that Jordan Crawford kid has something I like...moxie?
YFTM: 30...and I'll start cutting every once in a while.
CS: All that, practice passing out of double teams, and I'll consider guaranteeing 25.
YFTM: But you just offered 25!
CS: It's my playing time, I can spend it how I want. Do what I ask how I need to see it and you can earn those 25 minutes.
The funny thing about narratives like these is that while it's the coach who's cajoling, it's the players who end up winning. It takes time, but as they buy into the on-court philosophy, the natural gifts they considered to be all they needed to show become truly evident in the context of the most complete basketball player they can be in a team setting, with all the committment to team ideology that implies. But when you seem to end up at the yard sale every weekend, something is seriously wrong.
What seems to be disturbing almost everyone, and I mean everyone, is the evidence of competing cultures. The Wizards, when they seem to follow the plan, are a team built to clog passing lanes with a swarming defense fueled by athleticism designed to get out in transition and finish hard. The dearth of shooters demands the extra pass in the half-court to open cutting lanes for easy buckets. The fundamentals and bottomless effort from every position are so key to the team's success that players drawing undue attention make themselves into a symbol of me-first basketball no rebuilding team needs.
I try to stay out of these things ... I expect young guys full of juice to be exuberant. I would be deep into my NBA prime and I'm still full of juice. But these guys are supposed to be professionals and potential pieces in a D.C. contender. Whether it's insisting to fans you're a finesse player, trolling Kevin Durant over your fourth quarter defense (I'm sure he won't remember that), or ooping yourself in a tightly contested game while your mom tells the Internet 'you've got next', chances are that you're still buying into a culture the coaches aren't selling.
I do my best to appreciate the challenge Flip has faced with resolve, effort and creativity. I am incredibly grateful when I remember Eddie Jordan (who certainly bears part of the blame for not developing the youngsters). Yet at the same time, how near will Ted Leonsis allow this team to get to two full seasons with continuing evidence of competing cultures from the guys the team is supposed to be built around? Maybe Flip can turn this thing around, but consensus is nearing, at or far, far past the point that if he could have, he would have by now. Here's a riddle: What is an NBA coach who can't affect a player's perception of team reality? Answer: Fired.
In the end, maybe that's how we'll remember Flip's tenure. A guy, hat in hand, trolling yard sales on Sunday who might have been able to do more with more but nevertheless couldn't get the populace to come to Jesus, as they say. A head coach in the locker room should be like the captain on the deck of his ship at sea; the only voice. Once again, evidence of competing cultures seems to be tearing the Wizards apart, and stop number one on the blame train is Flip Saunders. On a personal level, this feels like history in the making we've seen too many times before. A DC team failing to live up to its promise is an old story, which is poignant, because as of this writing, I feel pretty damn old.
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Great thought
But why would you put a starting lineup out there that had not won a single game and think it’s supposed to be better? Why would you give the most minutes to a guy that has a hurt shoulder? Why would you play a guy with a hurt shoulder if you are trying to trade him (let him rest and get healthy, so he can be traded and gone, no setbacks that would make you have to keep him)? Why wouldn’t you give more minutes to guys that will play the role (s) that are needed if you are truly trying to win? Do we have to endure this all season, or do we have to wait for the end of the season? Is paying Flip and another coach at the same time too expensive (is changing the culture now worth it to Ted)? There are too many perplexing questions to take this organization serious.
But we do know that they are counting on the lottery, so that may answer all the questions.
by dmv4life on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i think its more important to fix the guys we have
I know draft picks help, but its a lottery. Improve what you have and if the draft doesn’t go our way, you haven’t waisted a year. This year is looking lost so far.
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I agree, but it's time to set a precedent (spelling)
After last night, i think i may just pull out that list of things to do when you’re bored, than waste time looking at another game this season. This is beyond pitiful.
in regards to the lottery
i was saying maybe they aren’t trying to win, so they can get a high pick…..that’s the ONLY thing that makes sense with the starting lineup displayed last night. Is playing for display purposes (trade) really necessary for Lewis and Blatche at this stage of their careers?
Another fine posting....
But this is not a team that is failing to live up to its promise. It is a team that is simply, totally, utterly lost at sea. If this team has promise we will never find out by playing Blatche and Lewis big minutes, while leaving some of the potential keys to progress languishing on the bench.
Flip, the captain of this ship, is about as useful (though not as criminally negligent) as the captain of that Italian cruise ship that ran aground last week. The Wizards are one of thirty franchises in the best basketball league on Earth. They deserve better.
the promise bit is more
of an ironic nod to Ted’s boundless enthusiasm, my bile rises a little as I think of it…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 25, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
I wasn't there
But I am after last night. This team needs a hard nosed coach. Like Avery Johnson. Flip would be better on a team of veterans. The wi need a coach that will kick their tails.
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it's almost funny how that lineup change blew up in Flip's face.
the team was just starting to look regularly competitive and he outsmarts himself, sets them back another few games. What’s he going to do now, start CSing and Ves just because? Bench Dray and Rashard again?
Nick at SF is the best lineup option Flip has imo but it’s not conducive to development for players that will be here so is it a good idea? On the other hand, if CSing and VES cant play SF as well as Nick…is that a lesson unto itself?
Nicely written, and good point
One of the things I’ve always been curious about with the institutionalized losing stuff is the type of player that falls victim to it. There really are certain personalities that can weather the storm, and that resilience is a valuable thing moving forward. As an OKC fan since they came into town, I’ve seen some pretty bad seasons (props on the recent win though, we were outplayed), including a 3-29 start that got past losing. At a certain point there was a question of “why am I watching these games?” because it seemed the same result every time. But at the end of it, the players fed off it. When you read quotes from guys like Durant about rebuilding, you’ll frequently hear about how they used that awful, awful stretch as a reason to grow and as a source for growth. If the Wizards are strong enough to get through this and stay composed, they’ll need to build off of this, and look up. And some of that responsibility does have to go on player leadership, whether from the veterans, Mr. Wall or any others who feel they can step up. It’s a long road, but you have to have faith that it IS the right one.
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
by JoCro on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
That pretty much sums it up.
How many guys in our lineup really seem to have fight most of the time?
Exactly. About half of it goes on the coaching staff
But the other half rests solely with the players. At the end of the day someone will be strong enough to lead them through it, or others will start to lose the way. And if that happens, it needs to be handled with a large dose of subtlety, to prevent the complacency and dejected nature from reaching the more passive players.
I think the interviews need to be a big portion of drafting this year. Talent is one thing, but this team can’t afford to draft players who don’t fit with a winning attitude, and who can’t handle a little bit of losing.
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
what were your thoughts on PJs firing?
As you say, 50/50 players and coach….much easier to change coaches than revamp an entire roster
At the time, I wanted any change
But that was almost for the sake of change. Getting rid of him was the smart move, though not for the reasons I thought at the time. That being said, Scott Brooks is essentially everything PJ wasn’t. He has his deficiencies (basically anything pertaining to playcalling, I would take Flip’s playbook in a heartbeat) but he gets players to play hard every single night, and he did that with a team that had just as many holes as this Wizards team today.
That being said, I think Flip should go, but I never thought he was the right guy for a rebuild. I’m just fairly confident that when this team gets back to the level of a title contender:
1. It will not be because of Flip
2. He will not be present in the Wizards organization
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
I agree with everything in your post.
I’ll add that I’m also fairly confident that Brooks won’t be the Thunder coach when your team wins the championship.
However, you have had players who seem (at least from a distance) to be more self-motivated than the Wizards.
Unless we win it this year
That’s the unfortunate truth.
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
How do you feel about the Westbrook deal??
I love watching Westbrook… he reminds me of a young D Wade… but w/ Durant already I think they need a passing PG and a low post threat… could get a couple good pieces in exchange for Westbrook. But they’re also so young I could see wanting to give them atleast 2 more years to see what they can do together…
That combo has been widely talked about
Trying to move Westbrook for Rondo and picks and then picking up a player who can work the block. I don’t speak for the entire OKC, but I see it more as a lateral move. Any passing PG, and Rondo in particular, would be a downgrade scoring at that position. People counter that usually with two points: that Durant would score more with a passing PG and an offensive-minded big would fulfill the rest of our scoring needs. However, this comes with a couple of problems. First, there is simply no talented low-block player available with the defensive ability and the ridiculous upside that Serge Ibaka carries, short of LaMarcus Aldridge and Dwight Howard. Unfortunately, acquiring either of those players would hamstring any efforts to also acquire a passing PG, the linchpin of this plan. We only have so much talent to trade and so much money to spend.
But say you manage to assemble this combo, despite it being the slimmest of chances. Assuming that Durant’s supposed uptick in performance and your new post man’s polished offensive game can replicate the scoring that you lose going from Westbrook to the passing PG, you now also have to make up for the fact that your lineup got a lot worse defensively in the post. So these new players would have to step their game up ANOTHER level.
And there enters the problem. Kevin Durant, despite being a top performer in points-per-possession in isolation situations, gets the majority of his baskets off of assists. In fact, as Tom Ziller masterfully pointed out during the lockout, his scoring profile depends on the fact that Westbrook gets the ball to Durant A LOT. In fact, the Westbrook to Durant for a FG was (I believe, I may be off by one or two spots) the most prolific pass-to-finish combination of any two players in the league last year. This whole situation is dependent on getting Durant more looks, but the fact is he IS getting those looks. Westbrook taking more shots isn’t taking away shots from Durant (for the most part, there are isolated games where he tries to do too much) it’s taking away shots from inferior offensive players like Thabo Sefolosha, Serge Ibaka, and Kendrick Perkins.
This was a very long way of saying I approve heartily of the Westbrook deal. I don’t think that Westbrook-Durant-Ibaka is necessarily a better combination than passing PG-Durant-post player, it certainly isn’t worse. It is change for the sake of change, and upsets a long-developed chemistry.
Of course, if LAC wanted to offer Chris Paul and Blake Griffin for Westbrook and Ibaka, I wouldn’t blink before jumping on it.
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
getting players to play hard every night is a coach's most important job.
i would take that over Flip’s vaunted playbook all day
Flip is not the right guy for a rebuild
but to be fair to EG… he brought Flip in to coach a contender. When we believed it was “our time”. Arenas, Jamison, Butler healthy… brought in Mike Miller and Randy Foye and had a talented young bench in McGee, Blatche, and Young. I’ll give Ernie a pass on the Flip hiring if he corrects it by letting him go soon… completely different team than we were two years ago.
Good call.
Get this man a reporting job.
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time." John Wooden
Firing a coach is the easier option, of course.
That’s why it’s the route most traveled.
That is not to say that revamping the roster to replace those players who seem to embody the hang-my-head-and-sulk-if-something-goes-wrong culture shouldn’t also be attempted—regardless of their “potential” and “talent”.
Regardless of how ugly the process, I’ve seen signs in the last two years that that is exactly what the franchise seems to be trying to do.
He does.
every team needs a “rah rah” guy… Wall’s that when the game is going good but I never see him try to pick everyone up when it’s a struggle out there.
Your first point was the most important one...
“The Wizards over the last several games have been playing pro ball like a pro team. My fandom has been inspired by the relentless effort…”
I’ll happily accept one clunker for every 3 or 4 good games. I find it highly amusing when guys on this forum say “no excuses for tired legs— these guys are young.” Seriously?? Man, it’s easy to throw stones.
I am as perplexed and frustrated as anybody by Flip’s lineups (esp. not playing Booker) but otherwise, I view basketball as ENTERTAINMENT, not life or death. Not a knock on you Derek— I think you keep things in better perspective than most. Good job on the article!
Bullets fan stuck in CO.
This year's performance is a reflection on....
Ted, EG, Flip and the players. You can only squeeze so much juice out of lemon so any meaningful change for the better would need to be first instituted by Ted. Given that change is not likely to be forthcoming, the fingers therefore should be pointing at Ted in the first instance. Until he acts, we can rightly say that he is complacent with the current performance.
There are just too many problems for a few little tweaks to make much of a difference.
by Izman on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
last indeed illustrated that everyone is lacking
Philly has been beating us down for months now yet our guys didnt show up to play, and on top of that Flip does his lineup voodoo to ill effect.
This sums up so much of the feelings I couldn't put into words about the team
The culture clash that we witness nightly is in all likelihood the root of our problems. Honestly, it may go as far as Abe vs. Ted and the visions each owner had for the team. Ernie, for all of his many deficiencies – especially the ability to evaluate players – has done what we have heard as the owner’s bidding. When Abe’s vision was “win now”, Ernie made moves to emphasize the present (leave aside how poor those moves were). When Ted says “build through the draft”, Ernie stockpiles (crappy) picks and takes guys with promise and upside (and not much else). So now we have two sets of players on the team as well, and it seems like those guys are at odds as well.
To me, it’s clear Flip has to go and Ernie has to go. Bring in new management that will be the “only voice on deck” and enable that management to move whomever doesn’t fit (Dre, Nick, and maybe JaVale, depending on the day of the week, seem to be the obvious targets). Right now, there is too much shouting among the deckhands both between themselves and the captain for anything serious to be accomplished. You can’t press the reset button and keep the same pieces in place. Honestly, I’m reminded of the Thomas Jefferson quote:
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants
If we want “liberty” – in this case, a real culture change – that tree is going to have to be refreshed with the blood of both patriots and tyrants (for analogy’s sake, let’s say those are the players and front office, respectively). In order to really start over, some of the guys we like are probably going to be going out as well. I’m ok with this as long as we have a REAL change in the culture of the team.
by jakenbake on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don't have to worry about Flip anymore
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After a 2-15 start to the season, the Washington Wizards have fired Flip Saunders as coach, a league source tells Y! Sports.
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After a 2-15 start to the season, the Washington Wizards have fired Flip Saunders as coach, a league source tells Y! Sports.

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