Nuggets Vs. Wizards Postgame Quotes: Flip Saunders On Booing Andray Blatche
by Mike Prada on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 PM EST
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PrintWASHINGTON, D.C. -- The quotes are brief today because the team shuttled out quickly. Andray Blatche was gone by the time we entered the locker room, and the players that did speak didn't speak for long. Here are your quotes, though, featuring Flip Saunders commenting on the fans booing Blatche.
Flip Saunders
On the second quarter: "The pace that they play at, that's how they always play. We don't always play at that pace, so I think some of our guys got a little bit winded and we got caught up into their game."
On the late-game execution: "At the beginning of the year, we did so much one-on-one. We're moving the ball better, a lot more assists tonight, but sometimes we have a tendency late for the ball to get stoned to us. We hold the ball and we wait for the defense to guard us instead of getting the ball right away, attacking them and keeping them on their heels. We didn't do as much of that late, and I'd like us to be more aggressive."
On booing Andray Blatche: "I can understand where fans get upset or whatever, but I've always said this ... booing is not going to help somebody play better. It's showing displeasure, but I don't think by booing, all of a sudden he's going to go out and get 20 points and 15 rebounds because you're booing him. If that was the case, everyone would do it."
Jordan Crawford
On if there was progress: "This one hurt, because we felt we were better than this team, and to give it up like that, we shot ourselves in the foot."
On the late-game possessions: "We just got to make better decisions. As time goes on, we're going to get better."
Nick Young
On what happened after the first quarter: "I don't know. I was sitting for a while, but I don't want to make no excuses. I should have gotten back in, and they should have run more plays for me, but there's no excuses."
John Wall
On the late-game execution: "I think we're a more mature team [than last year] and know what it takes to win close games. We just need to get stops, and make easy shots. I think tonight we forced ourselves into tougher shots than what we did the other night. That's how the game slipped away."
On the missed three with 40 seconds left: "We were trading two and two back and forth and the game was getting late, but knowing time management, knowing the game, I shouldn't have taken the shot. I should have tried to force it to the paint. It's a learning experience for me."
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"I should have gotten back in, and they should have run more plays for me, but there's no excuses."
If this was Javale, this would go nuclear
by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 20, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Nick is maddening. My favorite team does not deserve that kind of sh*tty attitude. And you know what, that kind of attitude can’t help his market value (if he wants to leave, either). And he doesn’t know that, which is the heart of his problems.
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hey calm down a little...
i doubt nick would be saying this if we won. hes frustrated that he lost and wishes he would’ve been given a chance to help his team win… especially after a great quarter. Its like not running the ball after your back gets 75 yds in the first Q, the back will be frustrated if he doesnt get touches in the second
by Wizkid4eva on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
dude, I’ve been watching Nick too many years to be passive about his shizz. The sooner he’s out the better for this team.
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Please sweet Lord tell me you feel the same about
Dray. He plays smaller and smaller each game. Nick is a gunner, and I suspect his beef is with Jordan Crawford more than the sets that were run. I appreciate Jordan’s confidence, but that man is a black hole.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's still disrespectful to the coach
But I don’t really know where to draw the line. On one hand, Nick is right. On the other hand, just like Blatche earlier in the year, just because you are thinking it, doesn’t mean you have to say it to the media. Even if you take it straight to Flip.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is disrespectfull to the coach and tell's you exactly what kind of respect he has from his players
He lost them and keeping Flip around isn’t going to do anything good anymore. Players that don’t listen, don’t develop.
I know there is no long term alternative right away but at this point, a interim like Sam is a better alternative than continuing this shanagans with Flip imho
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
I'l be sad to see Nick go, we've gotten to know him over the years (in a sense)
Gotta be one of the nicest players in the league, funny as hell, and really something great to watch when he has it going. Gil is exactly right, keep Nick involved and he’s an offensive machine that also plays lockdown man defense.
He made some comments about Flip? Eh…I really couldnt care less honestly, Flip has dogged him out publicly a million times…I doubt either one of them think it’s a big deal
The fact that they are TRUE comments makes me not really mind...
now if he said something about Flip or the offense that isn’t true (Blatche) I would have an issue…
I agree on this point
Even the announcers were confused why Nick was sitting on the bench so long after 1Q. It made no sense at all. Just another example of Flip’s poor rotation management. Nick was frustrated because in his mind he was “on” tonight – and his own coach was the one who shut him down, not the other team. It’s almost like Flip was trying to up the level of difficulty. It just made no sense and Nick was trying to reconcile the unreconcilable.
Still waiting to see what Flip has to say about this.
More so about why he did it than what he thinks about Nick’s post game comment.
to be honest I sympathise with him
He was on fire and the team was getting it done, it would have made more sense to ride his hot hand or at least not let him completely cool off
by BballBrit on Jan 21, 2012 6:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
SO
you talk to your coach. You don’t call out your coach and your teammates through the media
by mrmadrew on Jan 21, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Flip's whole MO is calling players out through the media
by DCrez on Jan 21, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
Golden Rule, Flip must know all about it.
Of course, grown folk would talk straight to someone else’s face, rather than go through the media. We don’t have much in the way of grown-folk actions though.
Ride his hot hand and then he can complain about not getting enough rest in the 1st half.
Knuckleheads always have excuses. As is was he looked completely gassed talking to Chris Miller at halftime.
by djnnnou on Jan 21, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He used "no excuses" like it was "no offense"
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by WorldWiEdWard on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I posted in the game thread or after
That my only gripe was flip cooling off Nick. It was bullshit and transparent.
Nick Young not pulling any punches
that’s about all that needs to be said, but, I think his statements are basically something many of us can agree with.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
uh…no, no I don’t. You think it’s smart to play him every minute? It’s not. Unless you believe he’s just a streaky shooter, which means he’s not really that good.
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
17 points in the first quarter...
ZERO shots in the second quarter….
Wizards were moving the basketball… scoring at will in the first quarter…. had 37 points and a 10 point lead…
Then Nick Young sits… Understandable… he needs rest just like every other player… but he sat almost the entire second quarter…and didn’t come back in until the Wizards had squandered that lead….
With 4:26 left in the second quarter, Young came back in and didn’t touch the ball for the rest of the half.
How do you cool off a hot shooter? Sit him on the bench for almost the entire 2nd quarter – that’s how….
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by Rook6980 on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly... Nick has every right to be frustrated
and Rook was Flip asked why nick didnt play? and if so what answer did he give???
by Wizkid4eva on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The shame of it was that...
Nick was hurt just before half and nobody anywhere saw fit to call TO. Nick ended up setting a week screen while clutching his wrist because no one was paying attention.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Look, it doesn’t matter…we led at times in the second half, when Nick played, too. The main thing to be concerned about is his shitty attitude, mouthing off to the press after the game and criticizing the coach. Who gives a shit if he didn’t play enough in the second effing quarter. Dude is lacking upstairs.
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
His mouthing off is a symptom of a much bigger problem
and that problem is one that pops up regularly on this blog: the Wizards organization as a whole, and the dysfunction manifest in it.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
How does the organization cause insubordination?
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
In what way was he insubordinate?
He voiced his own opinion; he didn’t refuse to follow any kind of orders.
I think there is a rub between some of the players and Flip, his game plan and the way he goes about executing it. I think that Nick, were this a well run team, would not feel the need to voice his opinions as he so openly did. But it seems obvious that there are a lot of issues here. The interview with Javale’s mom is, I think, an indication of that as well as much of the discussion though goes on within this blog—I mean how long have we been hollering about Flip’s rotations and substitutions? It seems like forever.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
mom's complaints
I think if you interviewed any close friend or family member of any player in the NBA they would say their guy isn’t being used properly and should be playing more minutes. It’s a new world communication wise now. Everything a player says or types now is parsed 8 different ways and if it is the least bit interesting, it becomes the lead topic on a dozen different sports shouting programs. Sadly, players need to be either totally mute or spout nothing but cliches.
But it's not anyone's parents
Javale’s mom actually knows a thing or two about basketball. I think that’s why her comments carry more weight (or maybe they don’t, depending on who you talk to). However, they still must be taken with a grain of salt because, as you stated, she is a family member, so therefore is certainly biased.
The communication thing is really interesting, and it sucks in many ways, because as you stated, players either need to be quiet or just spit out the same tired regimen game after game. If there is one thing I’ve loved about this team in the few years I’ve been following them It has been there outspokenness. The parsing of the sports analysts, on the other hand, is far beyond tiresome.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
if JaVale's mom REALLY knew anything
you wouldn’t be reading her opinions in the paper about her kid. That’s gotta be a multi-million dollar mistake on her part.
by dmor20 on Jan 21, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I said she knew basketball
not that she should go into PR.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 21, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
You new here?
Let’s see: Gilbert. Extending Blatche. Putting up with Caron v the world. Letting their coach add fuel to the fire on Haywood v Thomas. Trading for and actually playing Rashard minutes he has (until tonight) not earned.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You seem to think that these guys are performing volunteer work with no obligation to play as professionals while earning millions.
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
They only have obligations...
If management holds them accountable. Even going back to the days of the Fab 3, this has been lacking. A dearth of institutional controls.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, i really wish they had drawn a harder line over the years
it’s funny that while i’ve always advocated suspensions and the like at the time of these incidents, and was mad when they weren’t imposed, i still find myself mostly defending ernie’s moves over the years. in retrospect, i think the lax enforcement policy he set here backfired and did major damage to the organization. i think that’s probably the best argument for firing ernie.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a lack of consistent policies...
That make it difficult for players to know what to expect. Honestly the org fucked over Dray more than he’s fucked them over. They let Gil be Gil, no matter what stupid shit he pulled (literally) and it clearly seeps into the subconscious of the team. Players should keep themselves in shape, yes. But with a lockout everyone sad coming, why weren’t arrangements made to keep these multimillion dollar investments functioning?
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 21, 2012 12:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you might be right
about the organization doing a disservice to blatche.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 21, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
They did remember
Flip met with all the players and gave everybody a list of things to do over the course of the lock-out so they would improve. Remember Flip gave Blatche a book about LEADERSHIP and dude only read half of it.
Part of effective leadership...
Is knowing your audience. Giving Dray a book to read was to absolve Flip of his responsibilities and add to the mythos of Bkatche the Lesser.
I personally feel for Andray because the organization let him be Gilbert’s punk for multiple years, hands him a big extension after he puts up big numbers as a post player playing with his back to the basket, only to have his role in the offense changed again. They then single him out as some kind of leader, despite the fact that this is a young man that has lacked any training in such a role. He didn’t go to college, where he at least would’ve been forced to adjust to the structure of a uni setting.
I think he’s embarrassed as fuck all that he even opened his mouth at the home opener. I think he feels betrayed by the org, the coaches, and even his fellow teammates, who openly mock him despite none of them (Wall included) being willing to nut up and take the role of captain themselves. Wall is a tremendous player but he has thus far shown nothing as a leader off of the court.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 21, 2012 12:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Wall is taking on being a leader.
It’s been plenty of nights John Wall has taking the blame for a loss. Blatche had his chances in the end he decided it was more important to look important than put in the work. He does not know how to be a leader but knows how to ask for more money. Sorry I am not buying it.
Bye, Bye First round draft pick
I said this on the other thread if we are going to make a move which we need to now, then the first round pick is going to have to come into play. We are litterally the old Jail Blazers. Not Young I understand his frustration but somewhere from Blatche blowing up in the first game of the season to dunkgate then coach McGee and now this. Dude you talking bout 2nd quarter not 4th quarter where you earn the big bucks but you in here talking bout the 2nd quarter.
the jail blazers had more talent than this team
and a better chance of winning any game.
by thewiz06 on Jan 21, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Flip was the sole fire hydrant
That put out Nick when he was scorching. It just doesn’t make sense to me from a basketball stand point. Flip knows this team has struggled scoring points, had trouble hitting jumpshots, and had trouble running a legit offense outside of iso’s. So here you have a guy solving all of those problems and you just sit him? The team did keep scoring, but Flip should know how fragile the offense is on this team. No excuse for taking your biggest weapon out of the game before the defense even has to.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
True
But dude got his touches, so now this results back to the me first enviornment that the coaches were trying to kill. Should he have done it HELL NO, but this is not a championship contending team everybody needs PT. So are we trying to develop the youngster’s who are actually going to be playing for us next year or worry about Nick getting buckets to biggin up his payday.
by p.robb87 on Jan 21, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tell it like it is, Rook.
Another winnable game blown by bad substitution patterns.
You have to think that there is politics involved here
Calling out specific players in the media, blatantly not-calling out others, sitting Nick while it makes no basketball sence at all, overall strainge substitution patterns…
I don’t know, but Flip isn’t dumb. There has to be multiple agenda’s invloved.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
yea nick's comment caught me a little off guard....
but hes completly right. if it aint broke dont fix it, Nick was obviously feeling it and was unstoppable, you might as well keep doing what you did in the first Q until he starts to get cold
by Wizkid4eva on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I side with nick
Went to the game with my wife who does not follow he wiz. Her comment, “Why dont they put they guy in who scores all those points?”.
by kigaro on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
It's amazing
how sometimes it really is that simple.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
My answer...
If he scores too much it will drive up his 2013 contract.
Her response: “that’s why college bball is better”
by kigaro on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hard to argue
She thinks battier, Paul, and hansborough should have been #1 picks in their drafts. And when everyone cheered when wall came out…she was cheering because Mack was entering. Different world.
Mack was great. I really like him as a backup PG
4-6 9pts 5 asts 2rbs 1stl 1 to… and only got 10 min of pt…..I know atleast one of the shots he missed he had to take b/c of shot clock…
I'm convinced that...
The core of a playoff team is here in Wall and McGee. Young should also be considered, but we all know the QO is usually followed by a departure. Sing, Mack, Booker, and Craw can all be contributors. Whatever Jan gives us is great. The problem is that we’re still giving minutes to two guys who are not capable of delivering. Shard for more than a spurt or two and Blatche in totality.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The last thing you have to worry about is ping pong balls when you're 1-12 dude.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
2-13....excuse me
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Common Sense
For all of Flips head coaching experience and resume, he can’t figure out how to coach.
The announcers, fans, Kigaro’s wife and Nick young himself all know to ride the hot hand, and rest him t half time. At the very least don’t let him completely cool off. Flip you fool
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Or
Either:
A) Bench him for a couple mins to start the second quarter
B) Play him until he starts to miss off the front of the rim, signaling that he is fatigued.
It really is that simple.
by ChewinStraws on Jan 21, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Now i dont wanna make any excuses or say its anyones fault
but Flip shoulda put me in the damn game i was so hot. What im not gonna do tho is make some excuses, cuz there are none. Seriously tho, what the hell was Flip thinking? Was i not cooking?
and they thought bringing Nick back wa worth it on a 1 year tender LOL shoulda paid the man or let him walk
I wouldn’t pull punches either or stop shooting if I were Nick.
Mike Miller 2.0
just wait til he gets his 3pt to 43% and stops taking them
That's never been NY...
Say what you will about his…distaste for professional conduct. The man is our only consistent threat (he even makes FTs!). They fucked up by giving Blatche his dough and not paying Nick. Now we’re going to need to hope JCraw develops or waste a high pick on a 2 guard.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Boo on the booing
I’ve got to say that merciless booing of a hometown player really dampens the fan experience for me. I mean attending a game is supposed to be fun . But to start the game angry at and booing a home team guy is too much. And how can you actually be rooting for your team when you angrily boo whenever one of your guys is passed the ball. Yeah Blatche is not playing well but why all the anger? He’s getting booed more than anyone at Verizon Center since Lebron and the emotion of it is very offputting. And people start seeing what they want to see and applying double standards so that even regular basketball plays get folks riled up.
It just makes for an unpleasant vibe in the arena and really doesn’t serve any purpose.
by hotplate on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Especially after a win in which he contributed...
The energy should’ve been positive starting out the night. It got bad late, Andray’s been Kwame’d and there is likely no turning back.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is it ok to boo lewis
Just on general principal?
No
Don’t boo our team. Booing your own team makes them lose. You don’t think Blatche was affected? If he plays a little better the Wiz probably win this one. Lewis would be affected by boos too.
by steadyhand on Jan 21, 2012 3:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was there
To be honest, I’m fed up with his bull. It’s also worth mentioning that in the 1st half, it was relatively quiet when he got the ball, and he didn’t pass. But in the 2nd half, when most of the arena was booing him, he passed immediately.
by ChewinStraws on Jan 21, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
its best for both sides if they just move him
its not going to work here for him anymore…….too much lazy uninspired play…………we’ve all seen it……its not right but I don’t blame fans for the anger…..i was at the okc game and most around me said they booed because they wanted management to get the message to get the guy off the team…
look….lack of talent is one thing….being inexperienced is one thing….but being paid 6+million a year and not having enough class to get a bally’s membership then, moaning and groaning that the fans arent happy with you……..i dont have sympathy for that
btw
blatche is very talented…..thats whats makes this worse….he never took take to improve himself physically…..weight went up, vertical went down……first step got slower….
It seems almost like he's in a depression
I can’t imagine what his personal life must be like. I mean, I know he hosts parties and such during the offseason, haha, but still…. who goes to those?
I’ve been thinking a lot tonight about his personal life. And also how that’s tied into his professional life. Why can’t he get himself in shape? Why can’t he get his shoulder rehab’ed properly? Why is he so lethargic? Does he care about basketball, really, and if so, how much? How much support does he get from his teammates? Does he have anyone outside of the organization who he can talk to?
I mean, maybe it is sheer laziness, or apathy, but that seems incredibly hard for me to believe. I think there’s a deeper, much more personal issue below the surface, but whether he’s able, or will ever be able, to admit that to himself or anyone else is a question that I certainly can’t answer.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
definitely a possibility
and worth mentioning
by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
See but then you'd have to care...
About him as a person, not just as a whipping boy. It’s obvious he needs an intervention.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Great point
Personal problem can affect all aspects of a persons life including their work/job
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Hilarious
I know he hosts parties and such during the offseason, haha, but still…. who goes to those?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah that's the way I take it...
its really not directed at Blatche as much as it is Ernie… in that case I’m not going to oppose the booing too strongly although I still don’t like it before he has even done anything… but I get it.
Booing in the middle of a close game...
Is just stupid, especially when players are clearly reacting to being shat on at every conceivable opportunity.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when you're our starting PF
and you go 0-7 from the field w/ 3 turnovers and 5 fouls your’re gonna get booed… especially when you have the track record of Andray Blatche. Most people I’ve heard that are booing are pissed at management, like samoka said, and yelling “Take him out Flip” which is hard to argue with.
Except that they are booing him during introductions,
booing every time he is passed the ball, booing him every time he is taken out, booing him every time he enters the game, booing him when he passes, and booing when he shoots. You would think he bullied these guys back on the elementary school playground. At this point, it’s just nasty. I attend a lot of games, and it really detracts from the experience.
by hotplate on Jan 20, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Yeah I don't like it but I get it...
and have come to just expect it… imagine if he was playing in philly or new york… well hard to imagine any other organization would of gave him an extension.
Its definitely gotten out of hand
They are treating him like an away player. Or LeBron in the playoffs against our big 3. I never condone booing but can understand in certain spots but they are booing him ALL the time. Its ridiculous and embarrassing for the franchise
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by qthaballa on Jan 21, 2012 5:27 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Maybe Blatche has an excuse
Like a shoulder injury. He’s not as bad as he’s looked for the last fifty games.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seeing what they want to see...
I feel like Buck is part of the problem on this. Does anyone notice that his choice of words and attribution of credit/blame is horrendously biased? If Wall throws a ball 15 feet over Blatche’s head and it goes out of bounds, Buck says “and Blatche misses the pass” — while if Blatche throws a pass to Booker that hits him in the hands and bounces out of bounds Buck says “Blatche fails to connect on the pass and it’s a turnover”. It works both ways — he’s too generous with the players he likes and too negative about the ones he doesn’t. He’s like the homers that announce for a lot of other teams, except for specific players (true for opponents as well — I"m pretty sure he’s never seen Harden do anything wrong). Sometimes Phil will chime in when it’s really egregious, but it’s so pervasive that Phil has to pick his moments.
The problem is that this can create more animosity in fans towards certain players. Buck clearly has guys he likes and doesn’t like and he either intentionally or unintentionally colors his play calling to taint people’s perceptions of these players. It didn’t bother me much at first, but now it’s gotten to the point that I can’t un-notice it and it really annoys me. If it weren’t for Phil I’d mute the games. I now find my self re-phrasing half of the things he says under my breath because he’s spinning so many calls. I’m starting to wonder if he’s intentionally manipulating people’s perceptions.
Am I alone on this? Anyone else notice it?
by steadyhand on Jan 21, 2012 3:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I hadn't noticed
But now I’m probably not going to be able to un-notice…
I have to disagree a little. I usually think Buck calls it like it is.
Sure he has guys he likes and doesn’t like, but compared to other team’s announcers, Buck seems pretty unbiased to me. He’s been a Bullets fan his entire life so there is some built up feelings toward some of the players, he can’t help it. But when I listen to color guys around the league, some of them are ridiculous. Buck seems like one of the most level-headed guys I’ve listened to. I love that we have Buck and Phil on our side. I would never mute Buck.
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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 21, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
really i wish Buck as just slightly more homerish
i suppose he used to be and will be once again if we’re ever any good
I have a hard time blaming an announcer for seeing the same thing
that a number of fans see every game… if anything he could probably be harder on Andray, Buck and Phil to me still try to give him the benefit of the doubt on air.
We are booing for this year, last year, the year before that, and before that, and before that
Some of those jeers are also for flip starting him, ernie for extending him, and Ted for leting it continue. I know skins fans complain that Snyder is a meddler, but I’d give ted a pass on getting rid of blatche or at least forcing him to sit. He is too slow to play basketball.
nope
Maybe somewhere else in some other situation you dont boo. But when you have a coach who gives his players no accountability, an owner who wont make a change after breaking every conceivable franchise record of futility, and a player who devours minutes in key situations only to shoot fadeways and NOT run up the court. YOU BOO. Keep him on the bench, or trade him. The booing is atleast minimizing his ridiculous soft turnaround fadeaways and the team is playing WAY better since the BOOing start. If no one is holding them accountable the fans who have paid their hard earned money on jacked up tickets and concessions SHOULD boo.
by baltimorebullets80 on Jan 21, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Funny thing is..
Even with JaVale’s mom, as ridiculous as the context of the comments are, there have been indefensible points made..all of us were asking why Nick was sitting so long in the 2nd qtr, but we get angry that he publicly mentioned it..it’s funny to me that he says “no excuses” and then proceeds to let it rip
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by WorldWiEdWard on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pretty damming quote from Lawson
“He’s maturing. Things are, you can just tell, in disarray, not with the organization, but the players on the court,” Lawson said. “He’s fighting through it. Eventually he’s going to get some players around him and show exactly how good he is.”
He must see somthing really clearly that we arent
cuz at least from TV it looked like everyone was pretty together and unselfish tonight for the most part
by KurisuDevil on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well, you can pretty easily see that Dray is a cheeseburger and Vale’s court awareness is on and off at different times. That’s part of it. Though I bet the organization would be more than willing to try to help Vale along if he were enthusiastic about it.
by Tbonebullets on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that
or he follows the Wiz more closely than anyone might expect.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he is on the court so he can here what's going on
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
Blatche....it was clear as day that
he was passing up easy shots…making it easier to defend…and Crawford going Chuckford mode…
those don’t really take any insight…but add booing every time someone touches the ball and it becomes pretty darn conspicuous…
or maybe he was talking about Booker and Ves
it’s not like they did anything tonight (except maybe they looked energetic).
by hotplate on Jan 20, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe Blatche but theres no way Craws play tonight was seen as so terribly offense
to Wall’s development to say that. lol we all know ur not a fan of his but come on son
by KurisuDevil on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
as a pg...do you really think that his bad shots were tough to see tonight?
remember…this is a PG talking about a PG ….
and I am not sure what you mean by not a fan of his…I am not a fan of when he goes into me mode…I think the guy has potential as a 6th man in the nba if he can control his urge to take over a game….
feel free to look back at the archives if you don’t think so…you can even look in the last thread…
I call them like I see them…
Crawford hit big shots
when Wall and Young missed them at the end of the game. At least one player did.
by hambonejackson on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
if anyone maybe he's talking abt Nick
he played the most mins of anyone on either team and not a single rebound. Craw hustles his ass off, Nick doesnt. How many plays did Nick take off, plenty. You can live with a guy taking a couple bad shots when he works in all other phases. And i have seen other threads, u play favorites for Nick and bash Craw whenever possible
by KurisuDevil on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are entitled to your opinon...
But I think the box score for the evening speaks for itself…and the hustle between Nick Young and Jordan Crawford were not very different tonight or on most nights…Nick Young has issues, but one of them isn’t hustle…
and by the way...discussing bad play is not bashing
if that is the case, I have bashed everyone on this team at some point this year…
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by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
so the verdict is flip lost the game because he didn't run more plays for nick young in the first half
got it.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions
That's part of it yes
Other factors are selfish descissions by Crawford and Wall late in the game and Swish Cheese, óle defense all game long.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Sad thing is that this discussion doesn't happen...
If Jefferson wasn’t left alone to shoot threes all night. They played KD tighter than that.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
who was supposed to be guarding him?
I was only able to watch the first quarter of the game and some of the last, but the stream died on me and I didn’t have access to a television.
by young, loud and Scotty on Jan 20, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
It varied...
But they left him completely open way too often.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate players
Mouthing off, but Young is right. I (and many of us) said this during the game. When Kobe scores 17 in a quarter, do they bench him for the next quarter? (No, I’m not likening Nick to Kobe). I understand giving a guy a rest but, in this case, it should be nothing more than a quick breather. This team has ONE GUY who can be considered a legit scorer. And when he’s hot, I mean HOT, you ride him. That’s basic basketball.
Personally, I never took the talk of Flip TRYING to get fired seriously. But now I’m not so sure. He either has no clue on how to manage a game, or he’s got his own agenda.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
by CJHutch on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i was going to say that flip wanted nick to get more assists and rebounds.
nick had four dimes, likely a season high, but no boards. After at least seeing his assist totals I do not know…
by thewiz06 on Jan 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was at the game
Me and my buddy are having a blast cheering for Nick in the first quarter. It’s not everyday you get to see a guy putting on a show in a Wiz uniform these days. So after the 1st, me and my buddy say “awesome, Nick might go for 40 tonight.” Then I think about it and say “Nahh, Flip will sit him for the whole second quarter or something dumb.”
Why is this a predictable thing? I don’t know. But I really don’t trust Flip with this team anymore. We need a young guy to come in and inject some energy and not allow his own damn philosophy to get in the way of the team’s success and development. Brad Stevens is my vote.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 12:28 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Do you think.
Flip sometimes forget about players lol I often wonder does he realize such and such has been sitting for x mount of time.
Well if he does
Then that’s kind of like a player forgetting it’s his job to dribble the ball up the court because he’s thinking about his jumpshot.
And that’s what I am talking about. If he is so caught up in making his offense work, that he isn’t even thinking about what’s been going on in the context of one game, then he’s not the coach for this team.
And the case could be that he is also thinking about all of the young players getting their development time. But occasionally, you let a player play. And when a player is on pace to get 60 after one quarter, that is one occasion you just let him play.
It also seems like Flip could be against one player putting up enormous numbers. Like it would be against the team concept. I don’t know. That’s mostly a baseless theory.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't go to this game.
Worked til late into the night and I was rewarded with a slippery trip home..
Not sure if I read it on BF
But I liked Flip’s response to the Pam McGee stuff.
This was not the tone he said it in, and I’m paraphrasing, but basically the response was, the kid was getting 13 minutes of playing time at Nevada. Since then we’ve turned him into a starting C on an NBA team. I think we are developing him just fine. I read it as, if anything, he’s better because of us. And he wasn’t anything special before us.
And I tend to agree.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 12:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Stay positive, Flip
Part of me wonders if Flip was trying a boot camp approach to this season. Tear them down and then build them up. They were apparently run ragged in preseason and early practices. They played like crap and went on a historic losing streak, where Flip ripped every bonehead thing they did. Then they won a game, and he said, “See, you can win if you play the right way.” Now plenty of crazy PR things have happened in the last week but the team is playing better, and all of the sudden JaVale gets some praise. I hope the positive comments about our players will continue.
Ernie make it happen
But I would like to see us go after Amar’e call me whatever you would like but New York does not have enough to contend and they are showing that, and they need to rid themselves of one of those contracts and it would not get in the way of the wizards re-build for which I think we know who will do x,y,and z for us. Kevin, andray, 1st round draft pick, for Amar’e he does not do well in Mike’s offense without a distributor, plus they need all the cap space they can Hurry up EG do it while they are in a funk.
he is better than what we have.
As a fan of the worst NBA team I don’t think I can say that I don’t want any other team’s star or starter or washed up free agent on my team, except lebron and Gilbert because of principle.
by thewiz06 on Jan 21, 2012 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no..
But amare is in his prime. And we are so bad that we have to consider a guy with past knee issues if the deal presented itself.
by thewiz06 on Jan 21, 2012 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In fairness we can't shit can every player in the league
We tend to do that on this board. Nobody likes any players!
Sick game winner. Think about how good they would be if they didn't mess up.
so many drafts.
2006- Foye (traded Roy for him too)
2007- Brewer
2008- Love (the one they got right)
2009 – Flynn (we handed them Rubio)
2010- Wesley Johnson
2011- Derrick Williams
Obviously it’s way too early to pass judgment on Dwill but they messed up 3/5 drafts.
Amazing
Life must be tough as a fan and seeing Kahn keeping his job…..
Yes, they are doing much better right now but it almost seems like that is dispite of Kahn and to me, if Love leaves, I don’t see a guaranteed continued succes as long as Kahn is there.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
So Kahn should be fired because the nba system for small market teams is broken?? You want to blame someone blame stern who over expanded the league and created this glut of poor teams that consistently circle the bottom of the toilet bowl. You can say they messed up 3 of 5 drafts all you want, the number of all stars they passed up in those three drafts… Zero.
06 – The one year you guys have a point… Roy over Foye was a collossal miss BUT Roy would have been good enough to push them above selecting Kevin Love in 08 and would be more or less out of the league in 10
07 – Yi jianlian goes 6, brewer goes 7… Noah and Hawes are the only real productive players chosen later at 9 + 10, respectively
08 – more than makes up for the Roy loss with the Love trade, dumping Antoine Walker and his 9 mil salary in the process.
09 – When the wiz made that trade they weren’t handing over Rubio… They were handing over he 5th pick when all popular opinion had Rubio going 2nd/3rd. Kahn gets credit for not only making the trade but forcing it to be completed days before the draft, before anyone knew Rubio would be available (and inevitably raising he asking price)
Missed on Flynn but who did he miss on?? Stephon “I can’t feel my ankle” Curry?? Demar Derozan??
10 – Missed on Wes but again… What option did he have?? Bring in a malcontent like Cousins who plays the best position as your existing best player (Love) and between the climate and state of franchise would have been a ticking time bomb??
11 – Dwill had some rough moments vs the wiz but everyone knew he was a project.
VOID!!!
Booker Ves and Singleton Got a combined 29 minutes
And produced 14 pts (6-10) 6 rebs 4 assists a block and 1 TO. Fabulous production in 29 minutes.
Nick Young, supposedly on fire, shot 10-22 with 0 rebounds. Another black hole night.
Playing Nick and Crawford for 65 minutes is insane. They are both black holes, neither belongs in the NBA, and even on a night when both were shooting much better than usual, they still went a combined 16-36. Granted they did complete 7 threes, but giving the Terrible 2s the green light to shoot 14 threes is equivalent to surrendering. The only shooting guard in the league who’s worse than Nick Crawford is Roger Mason, so at least he didn’t get any time, which is nice.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 1:57 AM EST reply actions
Nick and Crawford went 7-16 on threes
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
And winning the lottery isn't bad either
It’s just not a strategy. Do it every night and Wiz will be . . . 2-13.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
And 8 steals for the year
Lightning has to strike somewhere.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
okay nick had a good game
but still no boards. Maybe flip cares about that aspect.
Think about people who do their jobs seemingly well overall but get fired or are on notice because of one part of their jobs that they don’t do well. I don’t care how you do the other things right. It is the one thing that you do wrong that makes you weak. Nick is bad at rebounding and perhaps a lack of effort there earned him that. I will watch the game on dvr to see…. But nick typically rarely even tries to rebound anything.
by thewiz06 on Jan 21, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when you watch...make sure you loom to see
Where wall is on offense, and where the opposing sg is on defense.
I don’t think it is as bad as people assume. I think the real issue is when he is in position he is outrebounded or loses the ball due to weak hands. I don’t think it is laziness. If it were, he wouldn’t be the first back many times.
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by DavidDunn on Jan 21, 2012 5:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
My point was
If you play Nick Crawford instead of the SBV triumvirate, get used to losing, because Nick and Crawford are guaranteed, certifiable losers.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Nick and JCraw often give us our best chance to win imo
I like Wall, Craw, and Nick on the floor….that’s our best scoring lineup and when Nick can handle the opposing SF it works defensively too. John and Crawford are good rebounders too, hids Nick on that a bit.
Booker is looking less and less like a big minute player and Vesely was getting manhandled in his limited mins…..I’m sure Flip will get him plenty of minutes during the season, it’s just tricky if he isnt comfortable shooting yet
Maybe Booker isn't a starter
Maybe he does better when his opponents are shorter and/or winded. But he is averaging close to a double/double per 36 with > 50% shooting. That puts Blatche and any other forward on the team to shame.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
the problem is if you actually play him 36mins it's appearing like he wont get that double-double
We have one of the worst offense in the league at 88pts/game, tough for Flip to find minutes for players like Book and Ves no matter how many “little things” they apparently do. I did think CSing would have played more last night given he was 5-8
I'm not talking about little things
Rebounds aren’t little things. I agree Booker is not a starter, but Crawford and Young aren’t scorers. Shooters are not scorers. If you can’t crack 40% in shooting percentage, you’re not a scorer. They’re scoring 88 pts/game with the shooters in the lineup, it’s not working.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nick is a career 43% shooter and has shot 44% over past 5 games
it’s looking like he’s shaken off the rust from the lockout no?
Nick is a stat padder
He does nothing but shoot. This has been obvious for years. You can’t win with players who are out to do nothing but shoot and aren’t interested in rebounding, assists, or steals. He’s more bothered by breaking his FT streak than losing.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
4assts last night and 4 steals
he also played great man defense at critical junctures, the difference between him and Shard on Gallinari was night and day
4 (FOUR) assist
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Never mind I didn't include Ves's 3 mins and 1 rbd
But he deserves 15 minutes a night or else he’ll become another first round pick who can’t get any minutes.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 2:01 AM EST reply actions
Blatche played really bad in the second half if I remember right
Especially in the fourth. I was dying for Flip to put Ves in for him.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Yes this one sticks out in the box score...
Ves getting just 3 minutes and Nick benched the whole second quarter after going off for 17 in the first is worth probably 7 or 8 points in a 4 point loss IMO.
Singleton only got 16mins despite being 5-8 and playing his usual tough defense
that one is really head scratcher…
I wonder if Flip is not sure what to do with Vesely yet? He got mauled in 3mins at Center, that clearly wasnt going to work….but if he isnt ready to take Js yet, I suspect Flip will shade towards Dray
Blatche is bad
But he contributes when he’s not scoring. The team doesn’t play that bad when’s he’s in there, if you go by the plus minus figures. Wiz lost tonight even when Nick and Crawford play about as well as they can.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 21, 2012 2:19 AM EST reply actions
Javale
Javale just tweeted this.
For those unfamiliar, a fan mentioned his dunk getting a 10 on SportsCenter. His reply “irrelevant when we lose”
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 2:22 AM EST reply actions
Say what you want about Flip's treatment of him.
The kid responds. This is exactly what you want to hear out of his mouth(or off his keyboard).
That’s why you criticize negative actions. So the young guys learn.
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by returnofswagger on Jan 21, 2012 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Saunders convinced McGee to try out team basketball
to see if he likes playing it. McGee is in the making up his mind stage.
by hambonejackson on Jan 21, 2012 3:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Still waiting for that email man
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
has he ever had a different attitude than that?
it’s funny fans get on him for tweeting about the all-star voting…but the team runs promos every game of John Wall telling everyone to go online and vote for Wizards
I'll admit I have enjoyed ragging on Blatche BUT...
I’m really uncomfortable with the fact that fans just mercilessly boo his every action, it seems like. Not only is it clearly killing his confidence, it just makes us look like d*cks. That’s the kind of thing that will make players think twice about coming to Washington. C’mon guys, we’re better than that!
by marc.nicholls1 on Jan 21, 2012 2:58 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
While I can agree to some extent
I also don’t like how Blatche mercilessly destroys his own (and thus the teams) field goal percentage. Seriously, how did he get so bad at scoring buckets? He has become more of a liability on the court than anything else.
by Marine4Life51 on Jan 21, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
There comes a point when his trade value is just completely gone.
But when will that be… so we don’t have him taking up anymore minutes from our developing young forwards….
I honestly think its already gone
The only way he gets trades is if its for someone with less talent and/or a worse contract. In other words, I can’t foresee a scenario where Blatche gets traded and the Wizards get better in the short or long term.
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by Jake Whitacre on Jan 21, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i like the suggestion from above
fans should start chanting “fire eg” or “fire flip” instead
by Todd L on Jan 21, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Booing him doesnt look good.....but we have lost 13 of 15
i bet if you watch a detroit, charlotte, new jersey or new orleans home game the fans are going to be nice either
like i said earlier people i met at the game viewed booing as they way to express displeasure with management
why did blatche lose weight this offseason like kevin love did?
would it be better if people just stopped coming to games?
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What if it turns out that the dude is an alcoholic battling depression? Bet you would feel pretty stupid about booing, huh?
by ZonkerBL on Jan 21, 2012 11:15 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
That's a hilarious idea
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
Ugly Bob
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
They deserve to be Booed!!
Every last one of them!!!
While I truly enjoyed booing Laettner every time he stepped anywhere near the court..
..regardless of the jersey he was wearing, I’m quite sure it never bothered him. Not even a tiddly bit. You can’t boo a guy like Dray at home. He just doesn’t have the “Boo me, huh? Alright then, MFers” mindset necessary to deal with it properly.
by imperialme on Jan 21, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
You cant compare booing one of the greatest college players ever with booing Andray Blatche
Dukes home fans never booed Christian Laettner.
by jmpalomo on Jan 21, 2012 12:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
in college, i don't think you should ever boo your team.
Because the players are your brethren. But pro players have to perform at an acceptable level at their jobs. If they consistently don’t, we have to voice displeasure. And in the NBA we can’t fire them easily, though we now have amnesty and stretch, but they still get paid……
by thewiz06 on Jan 21, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe not
But I booed the hell out of him when he was on the Bullets. It was the most fun I had with that team.
STOP BOOING (PERIOD).
As fans we don’t appear to be knowledgeable about the game by booing our own players. I understand that we had high hopes for Blatche and to see him squander his talent frustrates us but booing is not what we should do as fans of the Washington Wizards. I still feel like Blatche is one of the most talented players on our team. If he was in shape this year, if he really took the NBA serious we would be a better team and he could be an All-Star. I’m one of Blatche’s biggest fans and it pisses me off to see him out of shape like this. He can’t even do his moves because he’s too slow and too fat. It only takes 2-3 hours to workout. He could party and drink all he wants. Showing up this year in bad shape after accepting the captain role was just a smack in the organization’s face and our face as fans. With all of this said, don’t Boo him. He’s still a Washington Wizard. We don’t gain nothing from it as fans. We’re going to scare players away. We can’t turn our back on our team when they need us the most. Newsflash We stink, we won’t be good this year so stop wasting your breath by booing and write a letter or email to the Ted.
by Mac The Fan on Jan 21, 2012 1:16 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Kwame II is making about $10k per boo . . .
he DIDN’T come in shape, he DIDN’T manage his weight, he made a major league fool out of himself. While it’s true that the booing isn’t helping him – nothing else helps him either (if it does, he’ll undermine/stop doing it/decide not to need it), you’ve gotta feel like a major league sucker to be a STH paying to watch fat boy take home $$ for nothing night after night.
I mean, what’s his biggest success of the year – managing not to ACTUALLY shoot himself?
Arenas warned Blatche he has to get used to being booed
and the fans speak for themselves in DC. Its a brutal crowd. How many people boo because they have their personal miseries to let out and look for someone to demonize? Maybe some of these people should go to Capital Hill and boo Congress for the economic mess the country is in.
by hambonejackson on Jan 21, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Flip is coaching for a draft pick
a win, we talking about a win? (in allen iverson voice)
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