Who Ya Got?
by adamvolo on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 PM EST
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PrintI realize that it's early and the NBA season is in full swing. But with this Wizards team... it's never to early to start draft conversation! Assuming the Wizards don't go on an amazing run and get to the playoffs, I want to talk about the first round pick. It's more than likely that the Wizards will obtain a top three pick but let's assume the Wizards get their choice no matter where they're picking (first overall if you will).
Editor's note: I'm going to leave out small forwards because I have trouble seeing the Wizards using their first rounder when they picked up two last year. But SF is in the poll.
Anthony Davis, PF:
People view him as the number 1 pick no matter what. I'm a little more skeptical and think it depends on what team. I could really see teams falling in love with the next kid. Not sure he's going to be a superstar but at worst he'll be a defensive force and that's not to be overlooked. 
Pros:
-Freak Athlete
-Great shot blocker and good rebounder
-Effort and high motor
-Team player
Cons:
-Needs to hit the weight room
-A little bit raw, needs to work on his post game
Andre Drummond, PF/C:
Some people have called him "Amare 2.0," I'm not really ready to go there yet but I understand the comparison. He has a surprising amount of moves for a kid who was about to be in high school right now.
Pros:
-Great Athlete as well
-Again, good rebounder and shot blocker (but Davis is better at the moment)
-Surprisingly high "basketball IQ" for a young guy
-Developing post game that should be more than solid by draft day
Cons:
-Seems passive occasionally but that seems to be the system with the talent at UConn
-Can pick up fouls in a hurry
Thomas Robinson, PF:
Robinson is a boom or bench player. I could see him being a star because of his high competitiveness but if he isn't I see him being a solid energy player. So no bust here in my eyes.
Pros:
-Strong like bull
-Great rebounder and dunker
-Plays very hard on both ends
Cons:
-Needs to have more work in the post
-A tiny bit undersized
-Junior and has played a limited role the past couple years
Jeremy Lamb, SG:
I love Lamb and think he's going to be a star. Not a super star but finding a star SG is a rarity. The problem I'd have with drafting him is that he lines up to be a Nick Young 2.0.
Pros:
-Good shooter and athlete with long arms
-Smooth game
-Again a lot of range
Cons:
-Needs more strength, a lot more
-Can get caught looking for his own shot a little too much on a talented team
Jared Sullinger, PF:
If Sullinger was two inches taller, he'd be the surefire first overall pick. His post game is ridiculously good, not to mention he goes "hard in da paint" and is tough as nails.
via swishscout.com
Pros:
-Strong and plays with force
-Dominating on the boards despite being smaller
-The most refined post game in all of college basketball
Cons:
-Just a little undersized
-Not a great athlete to make up for it (unlike Thomas Robinson)
-Conditioning has been a concern, seems better this year although he's been getting injured but not tired
Small Forwards:
Perry Jones III - Too passive and doesn't make the most of his abilities. Too boom or bust.
Harrison Barnes - Smooth, good range, and height. Not a great athlete but not bad at the same time. He'll be an average starter.
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist - I love this kid. Highest motor I've seen in a while, a leader on star-studded team, and undervalued range. I think he's going to be a star, there's no need to convince anyone because as his season goes on, he's going to force teams to draft him. I'd draft him if he didn't have a logjam at the 3.
Anyways my choice is Andre Drummond. I think he fits well here.
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Davis is my first overall pick but I love Thomas Robinson
He fits well with Javale (bruiser, face up game that won’t crowd javales emerging post game)
and with Wall (good jump shooter for a 4 to space the floor, gets every defensive rebound to start the break)
plus he’s a DC native and it’s really hard not to root for him
I just don't see him as a top 5 selection, assuming we get one.
He doesn’t have supreme athleticism and he lacks the aggressiveness to make up for it. He can be a quality starter who can score down low, but I think we should aim higher. Davis, Drummond, Barnes and even Beal and Jones would be better options for this team. Davis has to be the selection if we win the lottery, but if we lose big time, Beal would be a logical pick.
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TRob is a pretty good athlete though and honestly
this year he’s seemed really agressive and has shined in being the go to guy
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I couldn't pass on Davis but
I’m not sure how he would fit into the front court with Javale. There would be no shortage of Alley-oops,blocks and goal-tending violations.
Agree that they probably wouldn't fit that well together
because of overlapping skill-sets and skinniness, but I’ve watched several UK games and have never seen Davis called for goaltending or even had a close call that I can remember.
Yeah - great.... more "potential"
Both Drummond and Anthony Davis will be projects… They will take 3 or 4 years to develop. Both have exceptional athleticism…but few actual basketball skills (sound familiar?)….
And then there’s “undersized” Jared Sullinger…
A beast in the post (exactly what the Wizards need)
A beast on the boards (exactly what the Wizards need)
He’s putting up tremendous numbers in College (again)
His per40 numbers are off the charts (25 points, 60% shooting, 13.3 rebounds)
He’s got lots of skills: Tremendous footwork. Baby hook with either hand. Drop steps, spins, and other advanced moves. A pretty good shooter out to about 14-16 feet. NOT someone that needs a ton of development before he can see the NBA court.
Two SOLID years proving he can do it at the highest levels in the NCAA….
Then there’s the whole “undersized” thing…. Same as last year with Kanter… people are saying that he’s really only 6’8" – that his game won’t translate because he’s not as athletic… Yet, he measured 6’10" with a 7’1" wingspan at the 2011 Amare Skills Academy. (Anthony Davis also measured 6’10" at the Amare Skills Academy. Drummond was not there.)
Meanwhile there are questions about whether Drummond really WANTS to play basketball. His effort lags… and he sometimes becomes lethargic for long stretches…. And Anthony Davis has shown no basketball skills beyond jumping and running and blocking shots…. (Haven’t we seen this movie before?)….
Tremendous athleticism and potential (Davis and Drummond) vs. production and skill (Sullinger)… Maybe it’s time the Wizards stop drafting for “potential”, and start drafting guys that can play basketball.
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Sulli doesnt sound like a Ernie pick at all.
He is exactly what we need.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
i hate to say it my man but Kanter has been very disappointing
Kevin Harland commented last night “Looks like he is playing on slow-motion.”
He is big and strong, but he is slow and he cant jump…nba athletes are swallowing him up when he has the ball in the post, kid cannot get his shots off for lack of explosiveness….so that concern was very, very legit. I’m shocked to say that Vesely looks like he is far more suited to the nba game, Kanter looks like a classic euro big (that stays in europe).
on a sidenote- the combine is a sham! anybody who works out with Grover for 6 weeks before the combine will look good/great there…but that’s not who they’ll be as a player
well, rubio has been better than i expected
so i’ll give rook credit there.
i’m not high on kanter myself, i always saw zaza in him, but it’s too early to draw final conclusions.
markieff has slowed down a bit out in phoenix
by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
yeah rough stretch for Morris
rookies often have some advantage at first because no one knows what they can do…once they start being effective and other teams start paying real attention to them it gets a helluva a lot harder. Seems like things have gotten harder for CSing since he moved into a starters role. Currently Jan is almost an invisible man out there, other team kind of ignores him and he just fills in the cracks…that will change probably after tonight (i think he will play well vs Denver height-challenged lineup.
I thought Kanter wouldnt be very good but then saw him at the combine and believed maybe the hype was legit…now he looks like he did when they claimed he was hampered by a back injury, kid is slow and pure molasses laterally…could be a tough hoe for him.
the only surprising thing about Rubio is he can shoot…but that of course changes the entire complexion of his game and allows for him to be so good, definitely was wrong about him.
And yet
His per 40 minute numbers are excellent, and not just for a Rookie
13.4 points per per 40 minutes, 15 Rebounds per 40 minutes , and a 16.23 PER (above League Average)
Sure – he’s got his shot blocked a few times.. and he’s been hesitant around the basket (probably understandable Rookie nerves).sometimes pump faking several times…. The Jazz very rarely run any plays for him in the post… so most of his points (59%) come from cuts, offensive rebounds and IN TRANSITION. (ie: garbage points)… and although he’s only playing about 14 minutes a game, he’s having an impact when he is in the games (
Although his help defense has been suspect, He’s played pretty solid post defense, showing excellent strength down low and according to Synergy, giving up only .88 points per post possession on defense….
You must have seen the Laker game, where Pau Gasol absolutely schooled the Rookie in the post all game long; making him look slow footed and, well… like a Rookie. If not for that Laker game, where Gasol scored almost at will in the paint, Kanter’s per possession points on defense in post up situations would have been .25 with opponents shooting under 30% IN THE POST…!!
When matched up with a “true” Center, Bynum, he was stellar on defense…. Against the Lakers, he caused Bynum to go 0-4, with a blocked shot and a turn over.
So – he’s been a beast on the boards (15.0 rebounds per 40 minutes)… and a decent defender in the post…. and while his offense has not been great (51.7% TSP), he’s not using a bunch of possessions, getting his points with hustle, smarts and by running the floor….
So – yeah… if you saw the Laker game… I could understand your comments…. but taken as a whole, I’d take a Rookie with a 16.23 PER…. and a rebounding rate of 21.5% (4TH IN THE LEAGUE) in a heartbeat.
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by Rook6980 on Jan 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And by the way.....
Had he been drafted by almost anyone except Utah…. We might be grouping Kanter, Rubio and Irving in the same Rookie of the Year conversations…..
But unfortunately, with Al Jefferson (34 mpg), Paul Millsap (31 mpg) and second year star Derrick Favors (22 mpg) gobbling up a ton of minutes…. Kanter takes the scraps….
But DCrez, mark my words, the Utah Jazz will trade Jefferson or Millsap either this trade deadline, or this Summer to make room for Kanter…. He’s THAT good…
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by Rook6980 on Jan 20, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Utah shoulda taken a point guard
could’ve traded down for Brandon Knight. Haven’t seen Kanter play yet but those stats look legit.
Kanter hasn't really looked that good
In my honest opinion. He is working with a major timeshare but nothing has really stood out about his game and has been outclassed against bigger ‘bigs’ and athletic ‘bigs’. He’s still young but you can see where his ceiling is very limited.
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by qthaballa on Jan 21, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He hasn't but I'm with Rook on this (surprisingly haha)
I know what I saw when he played in Europe, I know that his most important assets (rebounding, lowpost game, motor and being a big pressence in the paint) are very transferable to the NBA game and I know he is doing well without making wow plays in his limited minutes for the Jazz.
He was never going to be the athletic highlight reel that DWilliams can be, Kanter is more the unspectacular – winning plays – kinda guy.
Still in my mind a perfect fit next to a pogo-stick-living highlight reel like McGee and spectacular playmaking pg in Wall. Put a 3 and D guy like Singleton and a shooter/scorer like Nick Young around that some vets and you got a rebuild looking very solid.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
I agree about Davis being too much of a project
but honestly with Drummond and the games I’ve watched, he’s so much more complete than Davis. Let’s not forget UConn has a lot of good college big men plus Jim Calhoun doesn’t give him a whole lot of touches with a relatively stacked team this year. He has a nice and improving jumper for a big man and more moves than he is given credit for. Also I think he’d be a nice complement to McGee, he lines up fine at PF. The commitment concerns me as well but I think you make him out to be a little more raw than he actually is. I like Sullinger a lot but is he going to stay in shape?
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Really?
And Anthony Davis has shown no basketball skills beyond jumping and running and blocking shots….
This couldn’t be further from the truth. This is the exact thing I thought before reading up on him and watching him play. He has a surprising offensive repertoire and an overall great feel for the game. Think you are misinformed on this one…
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I think with Nick walking, we could use a wing too
We need rebounding, interior defense and shooting.
Shooting is the most easy to adress need in free agency so a big definetally has my preference but if we are unlucky in the lottery again I would be extreemely happy with a Kid GilChrist
What we really need to do is trade up for 2 lottery picks.’I’m have been saying
That in 2010 and 2011 too and since we didn’t do it then, we need to now. We are to thin on talent!
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if Kidd GilChrist is the best player it would be a shame to pass on him because we already have SFs
unless Jan or CSing actually breakout this year…
I think he can play SG
It’s all about defense and heart with MKG, as he would fit in perfectly with Sing and Jan. MKG and Sing could really do some damage guarding the perimeter.
by SpecialSauce on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
He’s a little undersized for the NBA SF at 6’6’’ anyway and he’s still got that skinny kid build. I love his heart and hustle and leadership abilities. The wizards have a severe lack of heart and hustle and leadership abilties. Sing is ok but I really don’t think he’ll ever be our answer on the wing. Ves is still SUPER RAW offensively and while I love how he plays defense and does a lot of the “little things”, we need a wing guy who can eventually be a very good/star player to go with Wall.
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
His jumper is his only weakness
which is why I don’t like him for us, though I think he’ll have a great career with someone else
His jumper has been better than everyone had anticipated
so it really hasn’t been that big of a weakness plus he’s been clearly the best player on the most talented team in the country. But we don’t need him. I just don’t see him as a 2 but I could be wrong. I think he’s gonna be a star though.
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We need a shooter or an aggressive bigman.
He is neither. He would be a great pick if we were starting from scratch, but he is not what we need.
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Davis looks like he might be 215 pounds....oh man, not another one!
not for or against him, have watched very little ncaa this season….but wow how long a wait before a kid that skinny can really hold his own? What if he has trouble gaining weight? stuff to think about…
I'm not a shoulder scientist
But I’ve read in multiple places that he has wide shoulders, which means it shouldn’t be that difficult for him to fill out. But that leaves me to wonder why we haven’t seen any difference yet….
McGee
if it starts looking like he’s not going to come around, he might need to be swapped for that second lottery pick.
That being said I REALLY hope he does and this BS with his mom and the dunk go away. I like JVM and the organization has sunk way too much time and effort in him to see him walk away and become a solid player elsewhere.
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 20, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Tough Decisions, Good Options
1. Drummond- The reality is that he’s a tremendously coordinated and athletic player with a naturally strong frame. At 18 years old, the sky is the limit for him as prospects like this can change the future of a franchise. The Wizards need to find another “star” player in the draft and Drummond’s ceiling is wonderful, as he could become an elite NBA big man in the mold of Blake Griffin or Amar’e Stoudemire.
2. Davis- A lot of people see Marcus Carmby as a good comparison and he too was picked #2 overall, but I think Davis has a lot more potential offensively. I’m amazed at how well Davis plays the role of “big man” since that’s relatively new to him. His instincts make me confident that he’ll develop into a mistmatch nightmare, with speed to get buy slower bigs and size to shoot over most.
3. MKG- I’m a little higher on him currently then some people are right now, but I believe come draft time, MKG will be drafted in the top 5, if not 3. MKG has all of the physical skills that one could package in a 6’7" frame and the intangibles of great players. He’s a winner in every sense of the word and would have a great impact on this franchise. If you truly want to emulate the “OKC Model”, then MKG is the guy to change the culture.
4. Barnes- Looks like a player that will excel at the next level and the increased open space given to perimeter players. He’s an advanced shooter and can get to the rim. I question his internal drive, because he came in with so much hype, and I never really see him go into “takeover” mode.
Just Say NO to Sullinger!
Andray Drummond 27.7 minutes per game. 10.2 points. 7.6 rebounds. Pretty underwhelming.
Anthony Davis. 29.8 minutes per game. 13.0 points. 10.2 rebounds. A little better…
Kidd-Gilchrist. 31 minutes per game. 13 points. 7.7 rebounds… Pretty good for a SF.
Harrison Barnes. 26 minutes per game. 16.8 points. 4.8 rebounds.. GREAT SHOOTER.
Jared Sullinger. 28 minutes. 17.7 points. 9.3 rebounds.
Now ask yourself. What do the Wizards need….
A. More run and jump players?
Or
B. Rebounding, defense, post offense, shooting, and high basketball IQ?
Do the Wizards need another “run and jumper”…. or do they need SKILLS? Scoring. Rebounding. Shooting.
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You keep leaving out Thomas Robinson
He’s a better rebounder than Sullinger, he’s much more athletic so he won’t have to be hidden on defense, he has the workings of a nice faceup game, and is also a good a shooter.
He isn’t as good in the post, but his better rebounding, defense, athleticism and faceup game more than make up for it.
Never seen him play...
although I understand he dominated Perry Jones in a recent game….
I’m specifically looking for a PF that can play next to McGee, because I think the Wizards will either extend him, or match any offer he gets this Summer.
Sullinger, with his tremendous rebounding and low post skills compliments McGee. Andre Drummond plays McGee’s position, and Anthony Davis is a McGee clone that plays PF (athletic, runs, jumps, blocks shots, raw offensively, etc…)….
So – IF Thomas Robinson plays tough interior defense… is a great defensive rebounder… can score in the paint… and is still athletic and can shoot… then he might fit.
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Best defensive rebounder in NCAA by far, already plays tough D and has the tools to be a great defender against both perimeter and back to the basket 4’s (I think sullinger will really struggle against perimeter 4’s), doesn’t have sullingers post game, but has a better face up game and a good spin move, good shooter. I think currently they’re about equal, but Robinson has a lot more room to improve.
Yea I watched Robinson vs. Baylor the other day.
He had a really good game. Good motor, plays hard, great rebounder, puts up effort on D. I actually thought he had some pretty good post moves. More refined post moves than McGee who is in his 4th year in the NBA, but that’s another topic altogether…… I’d be happy with Sullinger though too. I think whatever height or athletic deficiencies he has, he knows how to combat them.
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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 21, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
is Sully getting his shot blocked a lot this season?
that stats from last year scared me about his abaility to get his shot off at the nba level. ExhibitA: Enes Kanter (sorry Rook)….he apparently has all these post moves and he’s 6’11" but is so far completely stymied around basket..
I Love My Buckeyes, BUT...
I’m a Buckeye alum and I love my team and my school, so when I say that I don’t want Jared Sullinger on the Wizards, this is coming from a person that cheers the loudest for Sully on a two to three time a week basis and doesn’t miss a game.
Sullinger just isn’t big enough, athletic enough, or possesses a high enough ceiling for the Wizards to consider drafting him over a half dozen of the other prospects mentioned. The “idea” of Sully makes a lot of sense in DC and perhaps if the franchise already was set at SG, SF, and C, the Wizards could use a good 12 and 8 PF, but this is not the case.
I’d take Drummond right now as he can be that back to basket type PF that will rebound, block shots, and score on the block….albeit maybe not consistently until 2014.
As for Robinson, I love watching him play and he’s had a great junior season, as the Jayhawks “feature” player. He’s a local kid, tough life, but a character player. He’s never going to be drafted ahead of the “bigger” names, but he’ll make a team very happy selecting in the middle of the lottery.
I think the Wiz MUST find a way to get a “fringe” lottery pick and hopefully a few more night’s like we’ve seen recently from Nick Young can be enough for a bubble playoff team to ante up the pick for Young.
by SpecialSauce on Jan 21, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
IF he's as unhappy as people make him out to be
He’ll consent to a trade from DC to a fringe playoff team
Thomas Robinson is better than Sullinger, period. I've seen them both play.
And Sullinger gets more shots that MKG or AD.
Actually...
Sullinger has a higher FG% everyone mentioned here except for Davis and his PPG are (slightly) lower than Robinson, Barnes and Lamb. I agree T-Rob is better than Sully, but that just isn’t true.
In the OKC model
MKG would be the James Harden pick. I think we would need to acquire another lottery pick though to get him. I think we’ll draft a big man with our pick
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But aren't we going to the playoffs? How do we get these guys?
Anyway, if we are keeping McGee, I’d say Sullinger, if we’re not, just get either big.
But as both are more on the project side, and if can’t get a good FA this/next off-season, we might be in risk of losing Wall
It ALL depends on what happens with McGee
I was really hoping this season would be McGee’s breakout year. And its been up and down to say the least. He’s shown he can put up 20 and 10 shooting well from the field. And even if his hook shot is awkward at least he’s using it now. But then DunkGate happened and now this Pam McGee article comes out and all those questions about JaVale’s maturity/relationship with the coaching staff/etc. are weighing him down and causing problems. If he and the Wizards work these things out and he ends up staying around, the choice is easy: take MKG or Barnes or Lamb to help on the wing with Nick mostly likely out of town. If this nonsense continues for the whole season, he might have to leave (trade for a pick hopefully) and if he walks next summer we’ll need a big like Drummond or Davis.
Problem is as a lot of y’all noted, getting Drummond/Davis is going to set the rebuild back years. No matter now raw or “cooked” their games are, they are going to take a yaer or two to adjust to the NBA. And in a year or two Wall will be a free agent and if we keep setting records for suckiness he way be out the door.
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions
day dreaming
Wall Vesely vet
Crawford (might be in a trade) Booker vet
Singleton Seraphin
Anthony Davis vet
Andre Drummond vet
it would take a couple of trades at the deadline McGee, Young, Blatche, our two second round picks with other teams NOT one big trade with just one. or during the Draft trade 2013 first round pick and some money maybe Crawford with a team that picks Davis. I thin the team needs a new PF and Center, I also think the team goes after a new coach.
well anything is possible right?
I think you could day dream a lot better than that.
Crawford starting at the 2? I don’t think that’ll work. Drafting both Davis and Drummond, while the potential is there, would set us back another 4 years in the rebuilding process.
My take on the day dream is to either:
Sign Kevin Love (PF) to the max and draft Barnes/Lamb (SG)
or
Sign Eric Gordon (SG) to a good contract and draft Sullinger/Davis/Robinson (PF)
Wall
Barnes
Singleton
Love
McGee
or
Wall
Gordon
Singleton
Sullinger
McGee
Crawford, Vesely, Booker off the bench.
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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 20, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in love with option #1
It’s the best fit with Wall because they spread the floor for him. Love and Wall can play the pick and pop, McGee and Wall the pick and roll. Singleton is the low usage 3 and D while Barnes can flat out score. Plus it’s an athletic 5 that can run with Wall.
Option #1 + Hinrich, Evans, AK47, Booker and Pryzbilla and roster fillers…..aahhhh a real NBA team. How refreshing!
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Thomas Robinson is a man!!! Plain and simple, if you put him along side Javale no one would be able to key on him.
Nice touch, soft hands, explosiveness, and competitive. Only thing I’m worry about is his dedication to the game. He left Kansas due to a personal issue but came back the next year it wasnt clear why.
Last year he played the day after his mother died
He loves basketball and he used it as an escape when he lost his mother and her parents all in a month. He spent countless hours in the gym. I don’t think his dedication is an issue at all.
he's a beast
if Drummond is off the board when we draft, I think I’d want him. He’s shown so much skill this year to go along with his defense. He lines up to be a more athletic Carlos Boozer (when he was in Utah) which is not too shabby. For some reason I just don’t trust Sullinger.
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question:
why wasn’t Javale seen as a top pick in ’08 and Davis is seen as the number 1 when they seem like the exact same player except Davis is a 4 and Vale is a 5?
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Davis has a high BB IQ, Javale has a low one
Davis can put the ball on the floor, Javale only thinks he can
Javale and Davis have similar physical profiles and both block a lot of shots, but that really where the comparisons end.
valid, didn't think about some of those, thanks
but also I think the fact that Davis is at Kentucky helps
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Davis has some refined skills already
JaVale literally had nothing except running, jumping, and dunking. He did not have a single post move. You could not ask him to catch the ball in the post and do a drop-step. He was very very raw. Still is a little. Davis has skills but will take time to put on weight and adjust to the size of the NBA.
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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Davis is absurdly skinny right now, maybe moreso than even rookie Javale
could be a long wait, makes a guy like Drummond much more enticing I think if he’s right between the ears
Yea I'd rather not take a chance on a raw, underdeveloped player like Davis.
I’d like Sullinger, Robinson, Barnes, or MKG, depending on where we pick. If we have #1, it’ll be really interesting because none of the four is probably worth the #1 pick. Drummond is a guy I need to see play more. I really haven’t seen him at all.
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by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 21, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
This is a very tough call
I want Lamb and think he fits in the best with this team and fills a huge need (perimeter shooting and scoring, especially with Young potentially gone). I have no doubt in my mind that he becomes a star SG in the NBA, thing is if we get the #1 pick, I’m not so confident in the pick. Not because he isn’t a great talent but because no one is going to pick him that high. If maybe we can trade down I’d be happy with that option given that other teams have a bigger need for big men. Anthony Davis has Marcus camby 2.0 written all over him, and that’s at the LEAST! But with JaVale, I’d rather lock down a position in SG.
I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB
I'm happy to talk about him
and I could be wrong because he is someone I haven’t seen too much of in college. But from the limited action I’ve seen (and things I’ve read) he hasn’t dominated as his talent and actual skill for that matter would suggest. He has the body type and overall game of KD just with his shooting being worse (KD is obviously a worldclass shooter but Jones’ shot isn’t bad for a 3/4). I also think that he defers to the two Quincy’s a little too much but that maybe a product of the system. Like I said he could be a big boom but he hasn’t shown it that often, that’s why I’m afraid to take him.
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The problem with PJones as 3/4 that hasn't got the shooting of KD is that
He is to weak to play the 4 in the NBA and doesn’t have the shooting to be elite at the 3. Not my first choice
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 22, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
that's what I said......................
again in my opinion his shot really isn’t the problem actually, if you’ve watched you’ll see that the kid can shoot pretty well and it’ll develop. He’s gonna be 3 if he’s gonna be a starter or he’ll be a combo bench player. He has all the moves but the problem I’ve seen is that he is ridiculously passive.
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A few more notes
UCONN:
Drummond- The Huskes NEVER give him the ball in the post. He takes less then 8 shots a game and most of those come from put backs. You can see the flashes, he made a brilliant spin move on the block for an amazing dunk the other night and in another play forced a turnover with his long arms, made the outlet pass to the guard, and ran the floor to get the ball back for an uncontested jam. He’s got outstanding talents, UCONN needs to get him the ball.
Lamd- What’s good for Drummond is good for Lamb, because getting the ball to the big would only free up open shots for a sniper like Lamb. However here’s my take on Lamb: He’s a very good jump shooter, but not a guy that can create his own shot when the shot clock is winding down. At this level there’s a huge difference from those that can and those that can’t.
UK:
Davis- He always looks like the best NBA prospect on the court and that’s even with the 5 to 6 1st round draft picks on his own team. Davis controls the paint defensively and shows great hands on offense, capable of handling any pass, with the athleticism to finish.
MKG- He does all of the little things on this team to fill in the gaps. On another team MKG could be averaging 20 ppg and 10 rpg, but on UK he is the emotional leader and Mr. Everything.
Others:
Perry Jones- Doesn’t demand the ball enough for me and when he does he hardly uses his physical mismatch to his advantage.
Barnes- Still impresses with his scoring potential. UNC tries to get the ball inside to Zeller and Henson often, but when Barnes gets going, he’s tough to stop.
Sullinger- I see a regression from last year to this year. OSU had excellent veteran shooters on the team last year (Diebler, Lighty, and Buford) and this year there’s far fewer options for Sully to keep the defense honest and not collapse on him in the paint. He’s in much better shape in year two, but his numbers are down.
Robinson-If only the Wizards didn’t have as many needs and if the rebuild were father along, Robinson would be a idea. He reminds me of Thaddeus Young and Michael Beasley (the player, not the person).
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