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Thoughts from Ted's Chalk Talk Before the Oklahoma City Thunder Game

Editor's Note: Bumped to front. Major thanks to thewiz06 for taking the time to do this. -Mike

As DavidDunn posted a week ago, Ted Leonsis hosted a Chalk Talk at Verizon Center a couple hours before our game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, which we won of course. I was there, DCrez was also there though I am not sure if he asked a question.

Here were the three questions that a general consensus of us wanted answered:

  1. In the second year of the rebuilding process, what are the three most significant benchmarks for this year that you are tracking to see whether the Wizards are on the right track to be a contender down the road?
  2. When assistant coaches Wes Unseld, Jr and Mike Wells left the team no new hires were added to the coaching staff. What was the rationale?
  3. Do you see any benefits to having a dedicated farm team? What criteria will the Wizards organization have to meet before purchasing a D-League affiliate?
    Fortunately, Ted gave a definitive answer on at least question 3, but he hit issues that can answer question 2, and possibly also on question 1, now that I have had some time to reflect on this.

Star-divide

    At the beginning, Dave Johnson, our play by play radio announcer had the honors of introducing Ted. Ted then gave a summary of thoughts on the team so far. In short, he is not happy with the performance of the team, but told us that there were three previous games that we should have won, which were the home opener vs. New Jersey, the January 6 game vs. the Knicks, and the January 8 game vs. the Wolves. If we won all these games the fanbase may feel considerably different than we do right now.
    As you might expect, Ted parallels the Wizards rebuild with the Capitals rebuild, noting that the Caps experienced some turbulent starts. In the 2nd year of the all out rebuild, they started out even worse than in the first (I forget the exact record, but the start was bad). Ted also noted NBA teams in this, most notably the Chicago Bulls (which DCrez noted), where their rebuild took 12 years to complete. I am assuming that he meant that the rebuild took 12 years from the blow up after MJ retired through the first year they returned to the Eastern Conference Finals.
    If there are three things that Ted promised us for a rebuild, here they are. The draft, trades, and free agency. From his famous 10 step plan, I would assume that these are in order since he was also quick to note that the Bulls drafted most of their foundation with Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, and Derrick Rose, and the Seattle SuperSonics drafted Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook before moving to Oklahoma after the Key Arena lease issues were resolved.
    Question by Question Details
    Q3. Do you see any benefits to having a dedicated farm team? What criteria will the Wizards organization have to meet before purchasing a D-League affiliate?
    I asked a very similar question to Ted, and I thank him that he called me out because it was looking like I wasn't going to get my 15 seconds of fame. I did note in my question that the Caps had the Hershey Bears AHL team to bring in a cycle of more players ready to play in call ups, and that Bruce Boudreau was their head coach before leading the Caps to their current level of play.
    He said that we have a D League team affiliated with us already, but also understood that my question was in regards to Monumental Sports acquiring a team to join the other three he owns already. In short, he was considering a D League team and recognized the merits of the farm system, or at least this was the impression I got. However he did say that the Wizards are a rebuilding team, and most of the players we draft need to show what they can do right now in the NBA.
    If and when we have a playoff contending team in the near future, it is possible we could have more of our draft picks playing in the D League on assignment, especially if it is apparent that they aren't going to play many minutes on the Wizards. I know Hamady is on assignment, but I would think he's back here in DC eventually.
    And to compare the Hershey Bears to the Iowa Energy, the AHL is a separate league from the NHL whereas the D League is part of the NBA, and Ted doesn't own the Bears, though he would have to agree that the AHL works for the NHL by developing young and/or raw talent.
Q2. When assistant coaches Wes Unseld, Jr and Mike Wells left the team no new hires were added to the coaching staff. What was the rationale?


This question was never asked specifically, but this question underlies a bigger issue, which is if Ted is instructing Ernie to make moves in order to save money, and if he is making decisions on the front office/coaches based on financial/business reasons. One of the Junkies at WJFK (106.7 The Fan), Eric Bickel wrote a blog a couple days ago which accused him of that.


Ted denied that any move he made or did not make was because of the need to save money. He noted that the Capitals are a Top 3 team in player/related costs, which is his way of telling us that if the team has a legit chance to contend and the Caps do, then he will do what it takes to keep high performing Wizards players here, even if it means paying the tax. So hopefully this allays some fears in the BF community that Ted is cheap.

Q1. In the second year of the rebuilding process, what are the three most significant benchmarks for this year that you are tracking to see whether the Wizards are on the right track to be a contender down the road?


Ted didn't answer this question but I can piece together these things from other things he said in different questions and his introductory remarks. Ted wanted to see some continuity with the players John Wall has around him and wants them to have sufficient time. He did imply that our bad start may be partly due to the lockout and the lack of formal coaching in the long offseason. That is probably his biggest benchmark. How well are these guys playing with Wall? Another benchmark is how good are the draft picks? One STH who asked a question was pretty critical of Jan Vesely getting drafted in the first place, and Ted essentially said we gotta give him sufficient time.


We know what Ted wants to see in order for the Wizards to be on the right track which include good chemistry among the players around Wall, and how good the post-rebuild draft picks are developing, and also the impact draft pick we will get in 2012. Of course, coaching and how well the players respond to that is a factor. Ted hit those points in various questions in some form.


Other notes

1. One question that was asked is about the lack or perceived lack of notable free agents wanting to wear Monumental Red on the NBA team. Ted noted that our area is a great place to live which we all know. He also used another Caps parallel, where Alex Ovechkin played for some bad teams, and many NHL fans thought that he would try to bolt DC after his rookie deal for a traditional NHL power such as Montreal, Boston, and NY among others. Instead he has embraced the rebuild, loves this city, and signed a large deal. Ted stated that Wall has embraced the rebuild, and also loves this city. He also noted that the Wizards have to examine free agency each year based on who was available. For 2011, you can't blame the Wizards for not going after anyone in a perceived weak year. This summer, well, that's a different story.


2. Ted noted differences between the STH base and the casual Wizards fan/non-STH base. He said that the vast majority of STH's are all in for the rebuild, and that they are patient to see how things could be though hopefully we don't have to wait 12 years from Gungate's aftermath until the Eastern Conference Finals. Non-STH's were more likely to be impatient and email him a message saying "Let's rebuild the rebuild."


3. We had a giveaway where one person would win a pair of baseline courtside seats, and another person would win four VIP box seats (behind the basket but inside the hockey rink). The winner of the baseline courtside seats asked a very pointed question to Ted questioning Flip as the coach as well as the general nature of the team as of late. He was one of the $50 Carmine's Gift Card winners in the Post Game show with Glenn Consor (he has that therapeutically mellow voice that calms us down after games). I hope he feels much better after tonight's game since he got a free dinner and Bud Light at the Courtside Club with the VIP seats, not to mention a collective win. DCrez noted this in a previous comment.

Conclusion

That's what I got out of from Ted's talk. I hope I didn't misconstrue his comments totally, but I thought it was good that he was there to speak to the season ticket holders.

This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.

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by disgrunted on Jan 19, 2012 5:47 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Thank you for your summary

It seems that Ted’s focus for judging this season is:

1) team chemistry, particularly with Wall as the center
2) player development of the post-rebuild draftees
3) coaching and the player’s buy-in

These are important parameters, and if you think about it, an outsider would have graded each one as a D or F at the time of Ted’s chalk talk. (The F’s probably would have disappeared after the OK game).

Not surprisingly, his message was to be patient. One can assume that he can live with a bad w-l record this year to get a high pick in the next draft, which he mentioned as an objective of “this” year’s objectives.

Let’s see where we stand on the three points listed above at the all-star break. If we’re still getting D’s at that time, the season will have been a lost cause.

by Izman on Jan 19, 2012 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for doing this!

Just out of curiosity, how many people were there? What was the atmosphere..as in was it a casual chat with Ted or was he up on a podium looking down on his serfs?

by HIBACHI GOLD on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks...

I was just wondering because it is easy to say how you like to have organization more open to the public but balking when it actually comes to it.

I know he apparently responds to every email, but it is a totally different thing imho actually having an open, casual conversation with the fans…makes me like Ted even more!

by HIBACHI GOLD on Jan 19, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

probably about 100 folks at section 116 and 117

Ted was at the bottom at like row a. He was looking up at the audience. It was pretty casual given the crowd.

by thewiz06 on Jan 19, 2012 9:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

that "mellow voice" guy deserves a Cassel big balls dance

Dave Johnson’s attempts to run flak for Ted there were kind of yes-man lame, and it was cool to see Ted take the comments direct and actually appreciate them.

by DCrez on Jan 19, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I was never called on to ask a question

and actually based on Ted’s talking-points I was going to ask something not covered here which speaks to a disconnect between what Ted says and what the team does. He mentioned several times that we should be a “young legs” team that is not focused on Flip’s huge playbook and instead tries to defend, run, get out and win games outside of halfcourt. IMO, that’s not really the style we play on most nights and it’s clear we didnt draft to the strength’s of Flip’s offense (shooters).

I feel like Ted has to see this and it makes me wonder how he feels about Flip?

However overall my impression from Ted is that as long as we are young and drafting high-ish picks he believes we’re on the right path because that’s the “process.” I found it disturbing how casually he talked about the Bulls taking 12yrs and how much luck is involved (very true) and that drafts don’t pan out so you just have to keep on drafting. Nowhere in there did he suggest in the SLIGHTEST that there were any benchmarks for Coach or more importantly the GM.

I was impressed with his take on the Javale dunk “issue” and how it’s an example of how truly complex the team’s situation is on several levels. On one hand everyone is being asked to be a “team” player but on the other everyone is competing with each other to be the 1st, 2nd, 3rd option etc. Very hard thing to balance and tough for Flip. It disturbed me a bit when he said we may not have a pecking order “for years.”

Some of the questions were not even questions, just fans gushing over how truly wonderful Ted is blah blah. But some other were very harsh and Ted definitely took some heat. He appreciated people blasting the team, which was good to see.

My impression overall was of having been reassured, but at the same time worried Ted is so focused on the precious “process” that he lacks a sense of urgency about the whole rebuild and feels eventually it will just happen because he feels its being done the right way so that’s that.

by DCrez on Jan 19, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

oh and something else is that Ted's answer to virtually 100% of team issues is

“This worked with the Caps”

So if you think nba and nhl are the same, that’s great. If you think they’re different maybe it’s worrisome.

by DCrez on Jan 19, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can I ask the group a question?

What did you think of Ted literally standing next to Flip in the coaches box during the last minute of the game? Not behind the bench…but in front between Flip and Randy. The refs even had to ask him to stand back. It seemed very Jerry Jonesish.

Not sure whether I actually care or not, but it seemed out of character and I was wondering others thoughts. I don’t ever remember seeing that before?

by DavidDunn on Jan 19, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

surely he was just pumped up

but it’s funny because the description of the team he wants is not the same as the philosophy Flip puts on the floor….Ted steering the ship a little!

by DCrez on Jan 19, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not a fan of the owner in the floor seats

Sit in a box. Let the Coach coach without your big shadow (literally) hovering over him. Also think that Ted should do less commenting about individual players. It kind of undermines the coach and GM. A GM has to extremely cold and calculating when evaluating players and it doesn’t help when the owner says “we’re going to build around x” or “y is a huge part of our future”.

by hotplate on Jan 19, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i am perfectly fine with him in courtside seats

Maybe he should sit in row aaa on the other end so he doesn’t at least appear to be a shadow on the team. But when Ted sits courtside instead of the suite, he appears more fan friendly. I know he is in the suite for caps games but there are fewer VIP seats.

by thewiz06 on Jan 19, 2012 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

to be fair

just by standing up he would be in front of them, and in the coaching box. I didn’t see him interacting with players though. Thats what I’d call Jerryish. Ted is courtside, he’s visible regardless, just happened to be up on his feet with the rest of us.

by Jheiser3 on Jan 19, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you.

this write up took some time. also, that was a thoughtful way to relate your D-League question to the Caps.

by mogoman on Jan 19, 2012 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

Everything Ted said sounds great in the post-victory glow.

But it’s nice to have a record to review throughout the season. Thanks again for doing this.

by djnnnou on Jan 19, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks guys

here are some other quick things I forgot to write in the post but don’t really add to the Chalk Talk

1. Mo Evans made a cameo appearance, but mainly for an interview with the OKC broadcasting crew, and they were a section away from us.
2. It was shootaround, so KD was practicing and stretching while Ted was preaching rebuilding our team to get to the level of a team like the Thunder.

by thewiz06 on Jan 19, 2012 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

and Seraphin was running windsprints alone while other Wiz shot around

He was running hard enough imo that he knew he wouldnt play at all

by DCrez on Jan 19, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Nobody asked why

Ernie promised a kid who obviously would benefit from time in the D-League that he wouldn’t be sent there, I assume?

More than anything, Seraphin needs playing time to improve. He’s not going to get that here on any kind of regular basis.

by jakenbake on Jan 19, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Kevin needs D League time.

heard something last year that his agent didn’t want him in the D League at all, but the only way he improves is with playing time, and it doesn’t look like he’s going to get much here right now.

by thewiz06 on Jan 19, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree.
the only way he improves is with playing time

by jones-y on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Question

How long did it take from when ohvechkin was drafted and the caps getting good? might give a hit on how long ted reckons this rebuild is gonna take?

Still slightly sceptical that he seems to be basing a lot of what he does on the caps when the NBA is a whole different game and system.

by BballBrit on Jan 19, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

yeah their different systems and games

But they have similar steps to greatness.
Get number one pick (done) jw ovi
Surround the star with player who make them better (not done yet for us)
Find second star (done) javelle
backstrom
Lose lose and lose somemore – (in the midst of doing this)
Compete- (some games)
Play the free agent card -(next off season)
Then we win games

Caps went through it and so did okc. We’ll get there soon enough

by no more kwame's in dc on Jan 19, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's a quirk of the commenting system

It automatically puts a strikethrough whenever you have two hyphens in a comment.

Bullets Forever: Waiting for the Fat Lady to sing since 2006. | @jakewhitacre

by Jake Whitacre on Jan 19, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's when there are two hyphens attached to words

So when you hyphen like this: " – hyphens not attached to the word – " there is no strikethrough, whereas if you hyphen like this: " hyphens attached to the word " the middle words are struck-through

by jakenbake on Jan 19, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the "rebuild"

Is more about asset valuation than it is about basketball strategy. I try not to pay attention to anything “Ted” says anymore. All he does is market. His blog is nothing more than advertising anything and everything he has to sell. Then there is the Winston Churchill quote he threw on there," If you are going through hell, keep going". He is not going to change anything. Join me in our march through basketball hell. It may be for 2 seasons or six or ten, but we will march on together, so buck up fans because Teds accountants are guiding the Wiz rebuild.

by hambonejackson on Jan 19, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i dont know about the accountants part

but this may take 2yrs, or 5yrs, or 12yrs and it will suck was definitely his message yesterday imo. I suspect Ted believes the stability of leaving EG in place outweighs the period of upheaval any new GM would cause. Ernie will be the GM for a long time.

by DCrez on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly that's true

I’ve really come to hate the job that Ernie has done for the past 7 years. During the playoff years, all his moves were designed to stay in place, not get better. There’s nothing inherently evil about free agency and every year there are a couple of dozen quality “mid level” free agents that can improve the team without breaking the bank. But we don’t even try for them. Instead of shopping for free agents at Target, we frequent yard sales and end up with Obertos, Masons, and Hilton Armstrongs.

by hotplate on Jan 19, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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