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Wizards need Jeremy Lamb


We were mostly in consensus in thinking big man last year and there has been some grumbling about it this year as well but I feel with the combination of McGee-Booker-Singleton gaining some sort of defensive identity and the alarming lack of players able to shoot, let alone score, all draft signs point to one player.

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-The lack of scoring punch is evident as I think we are on the pace for being the worst offensive team in NBA history if I remember correctly. Lamb will immediately fix that. this team has nobody on the roster that will hit shots on a consistent basis and Lamb does that and more importantly he does that at a spot which we currently has no long term answer, SG. This draft is deep with forwards but we selected 2 last year (Vesely and Singleton) and 2 the year before (Seraphin and Booker)

-And it isn't only shooting. Unlike Nick Young, Lamb uses his length and athleticism to get to the rim and draw contact. He boasts: 51%FG, 39%3PT, 85%FT and is the meaning of consistency. He also rebounds at a good rate 4reb/game and is close to 1 block and 2 assists and steals per game.

-Now we also know it isn't all about scoring either. Its WHEN you score. We've lacked a true go-to scorer since Gilbert's knees. Honestly, a bunch of games during this rebuilding period has come down to just that. We've been so close but couldn't sustain down the stretch because we had no one to consistently put points on the board. We've tried Nick Young but he is too 1-dimensional at this point and hasn't proved he's even willing to drive to the basket. We've also tried Dray but he's just as erratic offensively. In steps Lamb. I don't have any advanced stats but I watch just about every UConn game and the kid comes through in the clutch (look to last year's championship run where I argue he was the team's most important player).

As an extension of that go-to guy, all apologies to John Wall but he is not that at this point. He is better suited to be a facilitator anyway with all his weaknesses offensively. Lamb I believe is that guy. Since Kemba Walker left Storrs, Lamb had made a seamless transition into THE guy. Along with the the near 10 minute increase of playing time Lamb has upped:

-Scoring from 11.1 to 18.6

-Steals from 0.9 to 1.7

His rebounds, assists and blocks pretty much stayed steady without a major increase in turnovers (1.3 to 2.4)

And also with the increase in volume he's managed to be more efficent!:

-FG % from .487% to .514%

-3PT % from .368% to .392%

-FT% from .797 to .846

-Lamb's presence on the floor will give Wall someone to reply upon from Day 1 and help his development by leaps and bounds because Lamb's shooting ability and all around scoring will open things up for Wall when the defense isn't able to collapse against him. Lamb also has good ball-handling skills and will go into to lane to finish or utilize either the floater or glass. He also moves well without the ball. Calhoun runs him off curls and screens which Lamb is able to come off firing without hesitation. And might I add Lamb is very athletic at 6'5 with a wicked 7'1 wingspan and runs the floor very well so ally oops can extend to the back-court now.

-The only knock you'll hear from him is his defense, which will be warranted in the NBA and he will need to bulk up, but as of now he is able to guard all 3 wing positions because of his length and quickness. Drummond, Sullinger and maybe Kidd-Gilcrest (who I haven't watched play but has been compared to Pippen and I know his defense is for real) are the only 3 players who would make me barely flinch but I think the decision is pretty clear at this point.

This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.

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I like Lamb no doubt

But my question is he what we need most?

Right now, it looks like PF is going to be our worst position, with Dray not playing well, and getting injured.

I also believe a PG is best served having a big man compliment, instead of a SG compliment, because it is easier for them to work off of each other.

So I’m more in favor of Sullinger right now. I’d have to take harder looks at Drummond and Davis as well.

by gray16 on Jan 14, 2012 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

I will say this though

The thought of a Chris Singleton, Anthony Davis, Javale McGee back court makes me… well let’s just say I would love to see that!

Might as well go to the Verizon and set up an electrified steel fence with barbed wire and rabid pitbulls around the rim, because no one would penetrate the lane with that offense. That would also give us an incredibly pf/c combo, much like the Lakers. McGee and Davis would also be the most athletic combo in the league (other than Wade/Lebron).

The only downside would be Javale getting to see Davis handle the ball while we yell at him for doing it lol.

So take back what I said about Sullinger, I’d probably pick Davis, and pick up a good shooter like Doran Lamb in the second.

We could also consider trying to get Eric Gordon in free agency as well (hey, nothing beats a failure but a try).

by gray16 on Jan 14, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what I'm thinking too

But if we can’t get Davis I’m also really high on Thomas Robinson. Maybe we can try to combine our 2nd, the mavs 2nd, cap space and some assets and try to get a 2nd lottery pick and grab Davis/Robinson and Lamb/Beal

by Llamaman on Jan 14, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Im coming around to Anthony Davis

Its just I still see us get dominated on the glass and inside by bigger teams, which is the biggest issue outside of the offense. Also doubt Doron Lamb is still around in the 2nd round. If we slip for some unforeseen reason I’d be happy with Sullinger

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that if the big man were available, we should take him.

But I don’t think the big guy is in this draft. Sullinger is too much of a reach for me from where we will presumably be picking. I think the two best players, that would have an immediate impact, would be Lamb or Kidd-Gilchrist. And luckily they’re at a position of need.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 14, 2012 11:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Im torn

They both have superstar potential and Lamb seems like he will be the star of an NBA team but MKG seems like he has a LeBron-type impact on the game. Just don’t see how we can take a SF even if he’s the best with such a glaring hole at SG and a great one in Lamb likely coming out.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Who says McGee can't be that compliment in time?

And I’d go so far as to argue that ALL of the great PG’s in the league have a great wing compliment (some without a great big man counterpart):

-Derrick Rose has had Loul Deng
-Russell Westbrook had Kevin Durant (and also James Harden which is unfair)
-Rondo has 3 HOFers but Pierce and Ray Allen help him tremendously

Most other guys are exceptions. Wiz at least have some big men to play with, we have nothing in the backcourt (apologies to Nick Young who has struggled this year and probably won’t be back next year)

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed. with someone like McGee down low and with Young most likely leaving

and our new SF prospects lack of scoring ability, we are going to need some one to carry some of the load offensively on the wing. This all depends on what happens with JaVale tho. I’m REALLY hoping this dunk thing blows over. Soon.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

have to take best player available in 2012

I think Anthony Davis may be the best player. One player will not fix our offense, but I think Jeremy Lamb would be similar to the Thunder drafting of James Harden. He would be a quick scoring punch. This roster will need to be revamped once we figure out what young players are worth keeping.

by DaGribb on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

By your theory I would take Lamb

OKC didn’t necessarily take the best player available when they took Harden (even though I think he may be 2nd best player in that entire draft). They had a need at the position and instead of taking a gamble, they locked down the SG spot on their roster for years to come.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Finally, draft FanPosts

Nothing better at solving the depression of a 30 pt loss like fantasizing how well each of the top upcoming NBA draft prospects will fit on this team, and solve all of our terrible problems.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 14, 2012 11:18 AM EST via Android app reply actions   1 recs

11 games in

and we’re passionately fantasizing about draft order…fml

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 14, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

P.S.

The draft fanpost really is helping my mood…

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 14, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured it was too soon

But then again, is it really? smh

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not too soon

Like Nation said, it really does help the mood.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 17, 2012 10:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Ted needs to spend some god damn money and get a few proven players in here.

Pardon my French.

No matter how good Lamb or any other draftee may be, they’ll still be rookies next season.

by DCrez on Jan 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

qthaballa

I’d rather have Drummond from your Huskies (who I picked to win last year and I won my bracket) but if some how we fall to like the 5th or 6th pick then I’d be ecstatic with Lamb. I think Lamb’s gonna be a superstar… Some of my friends think I’m crazy for saying that but he’s gonna be a top 5 shooting guard for years to come. But if we’re top 3 then I want Anthony Davis or Andre Drummond.

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by adamvolo on Jan 14, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Can't argue with you there

Though I don’t want Davis because it seems he brings a lot of the things McGee does and we need a bigger body next to him and more fundamentally sound. Drummond isn’t that but he is a freakish athlete with size to boot.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Andre Drummond (period)

We need a dominant big (period). We can acquire a scorer in the free agency pool. But we need to draft the best available talent. Andre Drummond should be a Senior in high school right now but he skipped his Senior year to join UCONN’s program. He doesn’t get any touches for UCONN at all. He’s still a bit raw but he has the most potential in the draft. Anthony Davis is a shorter JaVale McGee. Jared Sullinger is the most NBA ready big on the draft board. I just want to know his real height. Is he 6’8 or 6’10? We need a defensive minded big man with offensive skills which Andre Drummond posses.

by Mac The Fan on Jan 14, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Sullinger and Harrison Barnes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOB6Kg6vsFY&feature=related

Looks close, I’d say Sullinger is maybe 6’8

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

that was from high school though

Both players could have grown (or not have grown) since then. What worries me about Sullinger is his weight/altheticism and his ceiling. I agree with returnofswagger below, but Sullinger maybe a little too far on his development path to really become the kind of player we need.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 17, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

If Ernie decides Drummond can be the guy then yeah take him

But if you’re taking a project big going into Wall’s third season, I think you’re going about the rebuild the wrong way.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I agree that is dangerous territory

I still think if we keep McGee that we should focus on the wing because while Drummond may solidify the inside, our lack of scoring will persist. Wall will have no consistent wing running mate to develop with (i.e Westbrook/Durant or Rose/Deng)

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeremy Lamb...

Jeremy Lamb can shoot very well. He’s a good catch and shoot but what some of you don’t realize is he can’t dribble. He can’t create his own shot. We don’t set good enough screens for a player to just catch and shoot. SMH

by Mac The Fan on Jan 14, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

I think you are selling him short by saying he "can't dribble"

He does need to work on his handle and gain weight/strength to be able to get separation at the next level but his work ethic is great with NBA bloodlines (Rolondo Lamb). This is still not a huge issue because I believe him not being able to dribble isn’t true at all.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Off the ball

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnktoIjtiU

The best thing that Lamb provides is that he is great off the ball, and you can easily teach players how to set better screens. Lamb is the perfect complement to Wall. Not to mention his elite length will make him a great defender. Lamb has also greatly improved on the ball scoring also.

I like Drummond, but his terrible free throw percentage worries me. When your that bad of a free throw shooter, I highly doubt that you will ever be able to develop a mid range/ face up game.

While there are some similarities between Anthony Davis and Mcgee there are also some very large differences. Davis is a way better shooter than Mcgee. Davis is light years ahead of Mcgee when it comes to basketball awareness. Just watching Davis play you can tell he has a natural feel for the game. Also Davis has no attitude problems. There’s a reason why many people have Davis going first overall.

by bigmikeemike09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Definitely the perfect compliment

Wall will create for him and he will open lanes for Wall. Also will take pressure off Wall knowing he won’t have to do everything in the back court.

In terms of Davis I had him totally misread. I just figured JaVale 2.0 and was way off. His Bball IQ is so much better than expected and he plays with such fluidity. Knows how to set the screen and never forces the action. Also makes the right pass most plays and know when to give the ball up when nothing is there. Still worried about how frail the paint would be against bigger teams but Davis is definitely worth a look:

http://basketballbystander.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/scouting-professional-amateurs-includes-video/

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He also has a 7 foot wingspan

by gregjohnson1229 on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah that was in there....

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So does Nick Young…

by Mac The Fan on Jan 16, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched him play, but on paper he looks a lot like Nick

Same bad assist to turnover ratio, and he doesn’t get to the line very often. Nick actually had more FTAs in college.

by djnnnou on Jan 14, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

I agree lamb would help but the Wizards have problems all over the place

PG is set. I hope Wall/Mack are here together for a while.
Young is probably gone after this year. Crawford is an unapolagetic chucker. I like Lamb and I like his scoring touch and lord knows this team needs shooters, and I think Lamb would come in to DC in a much better position from a developmental standpoint than Nick did.
We have like 5 guys who get minutes at the 3 or 4. The thing is, not one of them really is a solid all around player, at least not yet. Ves, Book, Singleton, are all offensively challenged hustle and D guys.
I’m also a little more hesitant to draft a guy like Davis or Drummond since they both seem to be a tad raw and in need of some developing. Our entire team is raw. At some point in the rebuild we need to stop drafting project players and start drafting a player who can contribute right away.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Which is why I am at the stance I am

I feel we have player to develop, as raw as they are or as limited their ceiling is, we have 3’s and 4’s. Assuming we match whatever for JaVale, then we have a starting piece at center as well. With Young likely gone and Crawford so inconsistent that would leave us with Wall and Mack as the only 2 players in the back court. In this situation Lamb fits a NEED and we wouldn’t be reaching since he is definitely a high lottery pick

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Offseason- Sign Eric Gordon, draft Andre Drummond, more...

Gordon- one of my favorite young players in the NBA. Great shooter with a picture perfect jumpshot, explosive athlete, and not afraid to play some defense. Although he was a big part of the CP3 trade, I still feel like he flies under the radar a bit. He would be a great fit next to Wall in the backcourt. I would be willing to throw a lot of money at him this summer in order to obtain him. If we have the ability to get him, he should be our number one priority. To do this, we may have to amnesty Lewis, but I think Leonsis would be willing to do this if he could get a great young player like Gordon.

Drummond (via NBAdraft.net)- Midway through the season, Drummond has the pole position to be the top overall pick. At 6-foot-10 270 lbs, Drummond is said to be the fastest player on the UConn team. Remarkable when you consider that most players lose their mobility when they bulk up to his size. This from an NBA scout, “I see guys like (Anthony) Davis all the time, guys like Drummond are rare. It’s been 5 years since the last one (physically dominant, elite level bigman) which was Oden.” He is in the same category athletically with Amar’e and Dwight Howard and while he’s still raw offensively, he shows excellent finishing touch around the basket. The biggest chink in his armor is his free throw shooting, where he hits at a miserable sub-40% rate.

I like Anthony Davis more than this scout, and wouldn’t mind him on the Wiz, but I really think Drummond could be something special. I’ve seen most of Uconn’s games and I really like what I see from him. That write-up says he is raw offensively, but he has definitely shown glimpses of what he could be. He can actually handle the ball pretty well for his size, and I have seen him make several turnaround jumpers. His skillset is definitely similar to Amare’s when he first came out. And as corny as it sounds, you truly cannot teach size. He is huge and athletic. Anthony Davis does not have the body type to be able to put on the weight and muscle like Drummond has.

If we were able to draft Drummond and sign Eric Gordon, I would make one more move by trading Andre Blatche for whatever we could possibly get. Drummond would make Blatche expendable from Day 1. Blatche obviously has talent, but I truly think he is a cancer to this team and needs to go. Would love to get a shooter/swingman to replace him. Also, there is no way we resign Nick Young.

2012-13 lineup:
PG- Wall, Mack
SG- Gordon, Crawford, What we get for Blatche
SF- Singleton, Booker, What we get for Blatche
PF- Drummond, Vesely
C- Mcgee, Seraphin

Not bad if you ask me…what do you guys think?

by RealtorTerp on Jan 19, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

I'm at the belief that

Wiz can’t really afford to draft another project and Drummond is still very much raw. He also has concerns about his passion, which is a question mark but not enough to pass on a guy. If we go Big it probably should be Sullinger or Davis if we are in position and have made a decision on McGee not being here for the long-term.

Doubt we’d get anything for Blatche so the team would likely amnesty him and if Sullinger is indeed the pick I’d be thrilled if the Wiz were someone able to snag Eric Gordon as well.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Feb 4, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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