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Not really shocked about the Nick Young stuff

Wasn’t someone “close” to Nick Young telling Woj that Nick Young thought he’d be a perfect fit in Chicago?

Bullets Forever: Waiting for the Fat Lady to sing since 2006. | @jakewhitacre

by Jake Whitacre on Jan 12, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

Last night someone with Mae Jude’s writing skills implied that Nick is too good for this team. If Nick actually believes that, then he’s delusional. The “good Nick Young” would be very helpful to Wall, Singleton, and Booker right now, who need shooters who care about winning. IMO Nick doesn’t care, is not a leader, and is probably best suited coming off the bench at a mid-level salary somewhere else.

by Tbonebullets on Jan 12, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Mae Jude

Ah yes, the writing skills… Noteworthy indeed.

by gbkdc on Jan 12, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad we didn't get the win

then we’d be talking about how the wiz played great defense, until the starters ran out of gas at the end

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 12, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Story of the game...

Click View Image for larger picture.

But literally when Lewis and Crawford entered…the wheels came off….twice…

Now…this may be acceptable according to the “plan”, but it stands out like a sore thumb. Yes, a better shooting night by anyone, including Nick Young would have given us a much better chance. Yes, it is a team game. But one thing is clear, when Crawford goes into “me” mode, we are a much worse team, especially when “me” mode doesn’t include any defense to boot. It seems like he really thinks the way to get his starting job back is score on nights Nick doesn’t. I don’t even want to consider other rationales.

Can the be corrected? I bet it can. Is the goal to correct it? Only time will tell.

But this can’t keep up…..we can’t keep losing ground the moment the second team enters.

And for better or worse, the lack of Blatche, forcing Seraphin in the game actually hurt us.

But I loved the first team defense, top to bottom (Including Nick). Keep that up…and we will win some games.

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure Crawford has any other mode.

No other player makes me go “Oh no” when a shot goes in. I know that’ll just make him think he’s en fuego, and he’ll chuck even more, if that’s possible.

by YellaFella on Jan 12, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing last night when the rainbow 3 went it

Well that will only encourage him…

A Crawford made shot currently equals an auto-heat check.

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhat in Crawford's defense

He happened to come into the game whenever Korver did, and Korver couldn’t miss last night. Also, it’s all but impossible to defend a player like Korver without help from the screeners’ defenders. Our bigs didn’t help out at all.

Just be thankful that Rip was out.

But, yeah, Crawford’s shot selection stinks.

by yop32 on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He needed help...but he was his guy...

and his high usage without scoring impacted our ability to keep up…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

heh
An out-of-town reporter suggests that Nick Young didn’t want to return to the Wizards this season

In other news, sun rises in the east.

Pretty clear from the way things happened. (I use the prominence of Crawford in marketing and even the intro video as a huge tell, which by the way hasn’t changed). And I also don’t think the Wizards wanted him back. Seemed like a forced marriage to me in the end, and some of the tension may be showing through Nick’s play. He knows he is leaving, and is likely pressing (which in no way excuses his play).

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

nick young is one-dimensional

he’ll bounce back with a 30 point night soon and then everyone here will want to pay him $80 million.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

clearly he can't do it consistently on this team..

But yes, for us to win any games, he is going to have to get hot for a stretch because he isn’t a defensive liability, which limits the possibility of Crawford playing the role of carrying the team on a hot streak.

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

"culture of losing"

Nick believes the Wizards have held him back from being a better player…..i find that to be something the org has to take very, very seriously. It’s easy to say he;s a fool who doesnt do this that blah blah blah but the general outside perception of the Wizards is that we do NOT develop young players. That rep has to be shed and with a quickness.

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i refute that we don't develop players here and i will continue to post as such when that comes up

could we do better, maybe, but that’s not the problem. nick young did develop here. he is what he is.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 12, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what young players have we developed?

Javale has shown his greatest improvement after the summer he was not allowed any contact with the team.

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Heh... ZING!

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't have it both ways

You can’t acknowledge the improvement that Mcgee has made then turn around and randomly attribute to nameless figures. We either developed Javale or we didn’t. And if we didn’t then who?

If you look at his #’s since he came into the league he actually made a bigger jump his 2nd-3rd year than he did from his 3rd to fourth year. So did he spend that year far away as possible from the team as well?

Same goes for NY and Blatche for that matter who is far out performing where he was picked in the draft.

by ccrun1800 on Jan 12, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

disagree, I see a bigger improvement in Mcgee over the past summer

as evidence, no one seems to be calling for his head any longer, basically a daily occurrence up until this season. Whatever strides he made this past summer, Flip and the staff had nothing to do with it unless they broke league rules.

Agree Nick and Dray have developed while here…..but that’s not exactly a great list over the past decade when you compare it to other teams is it? Dray is the 6’11" super-talented big that no other team wants and Nick is the guy no other team tried to sign.

Can you really give the Wizards a better grade than C- on player development over the last 10yrs?

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We've obviously developed Nick Young.

I think we can all see the improvement his game has made in the last few years.

by MeToo on Jan 12, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I asked this question in the game thread
The Wizards currently have the worst offense in NBA history

I asked it in jest. But literally, with the lack of anyone that can shoot above 45% outside of 12-14 feet, we could break some records.

Thanks for pulling this Mike.

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

i'd rather hear Ted's actual thoughts on that than his assertions wiz tix are actually gold.

i understand he doesnt want to step on Flip’s toes, but if he’s going to be so loquacious it’d be nice for some of the content to be real talk basketball rather than just platitudes about patience followed up with dissertations about the wisdom of buying season tickets to a shit team. Note to self: stop reading ted’s take

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Ted's having a chalk talk next week!

i will be disappointed when it turns into a sales pitch for tix as it always does….but yes you are right, he probably shouldnt get to specific about the team, wouldnt accomplish anything and likely only cause problems

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I am thinking about going...but not sure.

Maybe we should create a post

“what would you like to ask Ted”…and if anyone goes they can ask…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

understanbly he doesnt appreciate tough questions that much

he blasted me last year for a query about the training staff!

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ted should be feeling very nervous right now

He and Ernie aimed low, and have landed lower, due to their miscalculations. Even bad teams, low lottery teams, should have a less-than-even chance to win on most nights. The only way this team has a chance to win is if the stars are in perfect alignment.

He has no right to be rude to anyone — not if he wants his clients to buy his product. Though if there were more .30 ticket nights, I’d attend all the time!! (hint, Ted)

by Tbonebullets on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ted should be feeling very nervous right now. He and Ernie aimed low, and have landed lower, due to their miscalculations.

Well put

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I remember that question...

oh..and someone asked about Javale’s Big Man coach … Ha…

That being said, he should appreciate being asked tough questions. I don’t think he is going to revoke people season tickets.

Reporters, for better or worse, could have access issues if the push to hard (that is another discussion). Fans really shouldn’t feel any obligation to ask feel good questions.

But that is just me….

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There are not enough minutes for every prospect.

That’s going to be painfully apparent next season when the team adds at least 2 more rookies.

by djnnnou on Jan 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

They're all getting minutes...

Right now we’re playing an 11 man rotation. And even if we do need to send 2-3 players down, there’s an apparatus in place to do so. Its an unjustifiable expense right now.

On the subject of next year’s draft, we’ve reached a tipping point with respect to the number of prospects this roster can hold. Its hard to see us bringing in two more rookies and not sending off any of our prospects in a trade of some sort.

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well then it makes business sense. For them.

I actually anticipated this perspective and started to respond before it was stated. If you look at the list of clubs that either own or finance their own d-league club, you’re looking at a list of clubs with either the revenue to support it, or an enthusiastic new onwer with money to burn.
Two of the teams with a 1-to-1 relationship (Warriors, Nets) are teams with new owners and big aspirations of winning in the very near future. (And maybe that’s what people are getting at here… And that’s certainly understandable…)

The others (Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, Rockets, Knicks, Thunder) are clearly in win now mode and can’t afford giving court time to not-yet-ready prospects. In addition, they all have the revenue to support their ownership/affiliation

Now note, if you will, how many well-run teams are not on either list. The Heat, Celtics, Pacers, Jazz, Hawks, and Trail Blazers are examples.

The stats clearly don’t support your conclusion.

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OKC bought their team 3 years ago

and the Cavs just bought a team at the beginning of a rebuild. It’s a trend and I’d like to know why Ted is not participating.

by djnnnou on Jan 12, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

For the same reason that not everyone follws every trend.

Your question is a fair one. I just personally think the answers are obvious.

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyhow, Ted has had a major ownership stake in the team for over a decade.

He doesn’t necessarily fit into your theory as a new owner, given he’s been in the decision tree for 13 years.

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I beginning to agree with you

Rebuilding through the draft, but they don’t replace the 2 assistant coaches they lost over the summer. Has there been a hiring freeze?

by djnnnou on Jan 12, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wish I lived in DC

I am loud and obnoxious as hell at ball games…and for basically free? Gah…

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

gotta laugh at the fact the wizards have the worst offense in nba history

yet to a man we all (rightly) believe the team has improved drastically over the past 2 games. Gotta love being a Wizards fan!

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Worst thing about that is

people will look at the box score last night and think the Wizards played their worst game of the season just because they only scored 64 against a very good Bulls D. We know the truth though, Wizards are on the upswing to mediocrity!

by crowquill77 on Jan 12, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The Wall article is food for thought.

I am not ready to give up yet on building around Wall. But I also have always thought that meant building around Wall as the PG…not the primary scorer.

It is why I thought it was important to bring Nick Young back, because in the interim with this team he could serve the purpose of alleviating scoring pressure from John during the rebuild, not because Nick is ever going to be more than a 3rd or 4th option once all the pieces come together.

- John needing a primary scorer by him, a la Rondo. – Check.

- Nick Young being a viable short term option for that role this year and next as additional pieces are added and groomed – Outlook not so good. Oops.

So here we are. Wall still needs to be a PG first. But a PG needs someone to pass to. That is at least a year away. So I can’t give up on Wall yet. The fear is that he builds habits that can’t be corrected and his confidence is shattered. I hope all of the feedback on how good of a head he has on his shoulders is accurate. We need him.

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Two things that have been upsetting me about John Wall

his overall demeanor/body language is not indicative of a leader…someone needs to let him know its alright to smile and be supportive of his teammates…too often I see visible displays of annoyance from him that I just don’t believe are becoming of someone in his position…and when they get shots of him on the bench he seems to be zoned out, not even paying attention to the game when he’s not directly involved….its making me question his love for the game to be honest, but at the same time I can understand his frustration, I just hope that he matures in this department

and, as the article pointed out, he needs to control himself when he is sprinting towards the basket…way too many offensive fouls on his part…he needs to be more aware of where not only he is on the court, but where the defender is located

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*

by atark001 on Jan 12, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I've always felt the body language thing wasn't fair

How big a difference is there between Wall’s on-court demeanor and Chris Paul’s?

The difference is in their play, not in their body language.

by Mike Prada on Jan 12, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i respectfully disagree

perhaps I’m a bit out-dated in my thinking on this, but I just don’t believe someone in a leadership position should be telegraphing those around him how annoyed he is with them, whether that be chris paul or john wall, either way I just personally don’t find that an attribute a leader should have

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*

by atark001 on Jan 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

But Paul is also vocal.

I don’t see Wall talking much.

by djnnnou on Jan 12, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

but I bet Wall gets more vocal

once he gets better and more confident….

Durant is a good example of someone growing into the role…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

you make a very good point here

it really all does come down to performance/winning…the way many view a person can be shaded on their success or lack thereof…and many are more forgiving of things so long as success comes

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*

by atark001 on Jan 12, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...to be fair...someone needs to let his teammates know

that they should be running towards him to pick him up off the ground at a stoppage of play.

(See photo above as teammates stare at the guy on the ground while the opponent looks more concerned)

Sometimes I wonder if the Wizards literally need a corporate team building outing…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

haha a corporate team building outing

there’s truth in that…I don’t get that sense of real team unity and mutual care out of this squad, perhaps some (or much) of that can be traced to coaching as well?

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*

by atark001 on Jan 12, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

wow ww arent good

All these could be fixed by Ernie in one day… Seraphin has to go to the d league. Promote h. And Crawford needs time on the bench to learn more and get a SHIT TON of veteran shooters to put around wall just to get us in a groove and to take pressure off john.

These things need to be done because 64 points is embarrassing especially with Crawford jacking every shot he can and seraphin bringing nothing off the bench for us

by no more kwame's in dc on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You think benching Keveen and JC and playing H will make us better?????

That’s like saying spilling a beer on my leg instead of my crotch makes the game experience better.

by Unselds on Jan 12, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

no

But Im really not liking what Im seeing from them. Especially jc

by no more kwame's in dc on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Posted this in another thread but I wanted to hear some chatter about it... I still think we should go hard after Cousins if hes close to available

I would offer anyone on the roster not named Wall or McGee. Vesely, Young, Booker, 2013 1st round pick for Cousins and Francisco Garcia. I would try to make the pick protected but if they insisted on it being unprotected I would still pull the trigger. This team just lacks talent. Young is gone after this year anyway. With the 2013 first rounder I dont care as much because we already will have too many young guys as it is.

We need one more guy on this roster heading into the offseason that can be labeled as a core guy. Wall and McGee are both core guys in my opion. Singleton is a keeper. Cousins would be another one. Everyone else on the roster can go. You go into the offseason with 3 legitimate starters in Wall, Cousins, McGee plus one legitmate contributor in Singleton. Bring in a new coach (I would love Calipari) and maybe a new GM. You have A TON of cap space after you amnesty Blatche and hopefully trade Shard’s expiring or he agrees to a buyout + a top 3 pick. You can find your other two starters + bench guys with those resources. Draft Barnes and overpay for Gordon so the Hornets dont match and you are looking at Wall, Gordon, Barnes, Cousins, McGee with singleton + whoever else we sign off the bench. But it all starts with trading for Cousins.

by jeffco01 on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

He's not available, or even 'close to available'

They just fired the coach which pretty much equated to them picking cousins over him. Not only that, but he has been beasting lately (had 21 and 19 yesterday) which justified their decision. We missed our chance, if there ever was one…you can give up on this idea

by Wizards Khalifa on Jan 12, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a shooting, shooting guard so badly...

Anyone have some ideas? Wait for the draft i guess. Could there be some trade possibilities? Or free agency next summer? Just throwing these ideas out there, because in my mind there is no doubt that this position is our biggest weakness.

by Wizards Khalifa on Jan 12, 2012 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

I would love Eric Gordon on this roster next year.

He is restricted but the Hornets are a mess. We would have to overpay a little most likely but I am fine with that given that we will have a ton of cap space. In the draft I like Jeremy Lamb a lot. Anyone think Barnes can play the 2 in the league? I would love to sign Gordon and draft Barnes to have a 1,2,3 of wall, gordon, barnes but then where do singleton and vesely get their minutes. Singleton I think could still get his PT because he could come in for anyone in that 1, 2, 3. Singleton for Gordon, put Barnes at the 2. You could even have singleton in for Wall and let Gordon run point. But where does Vesely fit into all this?? This is why I did not like the Vesely pick but I guess our options were limited at #6

by jeffco01 on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Then why not trade for Gordon right now? If we had Gordon, Okafor starting, and Kaman coming off the bench behind JaVale, we’d be 250% better immediately.

by Tbonebullets on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think the Hornets would be willing to give up the only solid player on their team.

unless their plan is to totally tank it this year. If we can get him that would be great but again I wouldn’t give up Wall, McGee, or the 2012 first rounder. Anything besides that I’d be open to discuss. But anything besides those 3 assets are essentially worthless.
In the draft I whole heartly believe we should have a 2 or 3 who can shoot and score. Barnes or Lamb would be great, epecially since it seems like Nick is out after this year. Booker, Singleton and Ves are tweener forwards that can get minutes based on match ups. I really like the idea of putting Ves on stretch 4s where he can use his height and athleticism to take advantage of slower players. Mack is a solid back up to JW.
Seraphin, Blatche, probably Crawford are most likely not going to be here for much longer. and they shouldn’t.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 12, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing about Free agency

The Hornets dont entirely have a say. Even if it is restricted, anything can happen.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 13, 2012 12:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

If we drafted a 3 or a 4, and landed Eric Gordon

We’d be on the fast track.

Assuming Ernie doesn’t fall in love with some uber athletic PF from Jupiter, who started playing basketball 3 months ago, around draft time.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

keith bogans

im not even kidding, hes a good defender, hard worker, and only shoots 3s when hes wide open, and makes them at a decent clip

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Jan 12, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yes!

And he is still hot about how he was dumped so unceremoniously by the Bulls

by spotless on Jan 12, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

if keith bogans started on your team

you would dump him unceremoniously as well…actually i thought keith was a great bench guy….most bulls fans did….but he was starting…..and it hurt so much

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Jan 12, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

we lost some floor spacing last season

Yi, Cartier Martin, a primed and in shape Young, a much better Crawford. a beter Lewis.

The Pick and Pop game was there teams got spaced open to allow Wall lanes to drive. This year teams are just laying all over the paint and saying yeah right. let someone make a shot 1st.

I really noticed something else last night Nick Young has lost some ahleticism compared to last season he’s not moving well at all. He must still be in really poor shape.

by jazzy1 on Jan 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

The blog posts on 30 cent tickets

I feel their pain. The best way to do it is split your tickets so you don’t have to go to all the games.

by thewiz06 on Jan 12, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

I want Wall to change his job description a lil

"Sometimes it’s going to be those nights we’re not going to make those shots," Wall said. "I missed a couple of easy layups and some mid-range shots. I try to be as aggressive as I can be. That’s my job, to make sure everybody else is good."

Take care of you first, make sure YOU are good, then get the rest involved, lets try that for a while, be greedy. Its the same thing Coach Cal had to tell DRose at Memphis b/c he was too passive

by KurisuDevil on Jan 12, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

I couldn't dissagree with you more

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i go w kurisudevil on this.

Wall has scoring potential and we need that now. Team offense needs to open lanes for him to drive and wall needs on the job training on the shot

by thewiz06 on Jan 12, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Our starting lineup, everyone shoots horribly (assuming Nick is off)

Why essentially ‘kill’ yourself to get others involved who cant score it. If they are wide open so be it, but no need to work your ass off to get them open looks first and foremost. John is the prize on this team, this is his chance to do w/e he wants on offense and nobody can blame him, use this valuable opportunity to fine tune up in the air moves and using the rim for protection etc..

by KurisuDevil on Jan 12, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

are you sure John even wants to take all those Js

i think he cringes every time the defense leaves him an uncontested shot but he takes them anyway because he needs to. John cant shoot right now, I’m not sure how he can get right…

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I def wish he'd be 80/20 (80 being drives, 20 J's) But my main point is that this team goes only as far as John Wall goes

Not Javale, not Nick, not Book, not Sing. As constructed right now, we only go as far as John goes, and he wants to defer to everyone else first. But they arent the engine. Thats why i say he should put a premium on himself

by KurisuDevil on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely disagree

I don’t want Wall turning into a a shoot-first shot jacking PG ala Marbury. Letting him do that would ruin his development.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 12, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Its more 'score first' not exactly shoot

John just wants to steer the car, and thats not the team we have. Our players are crappy and he wont find success in treating this team like Kentucky. He could afford to just guide the Wildcat car thro the race, letting his 1st rd teammates turn the wheels. He should be full on attack mode this year, and that in no way is gonna kill his ability to dish out the rock in the future. Would u rather have Blatche ISO’s all day long or Nick Young jumpers (who wont even be here next yr) or your franchise player attacking first. And like i said, im not saying neglect his teammates, if they’re open, hit em. But this team as is, calls for John to be a lot more Westbrook than Rondo

by KurisuDevil on Jan 12, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But it's going to completely change his mentality

If we eventually do get a competent supporting cast around him, would you want Wall driving down the court and completely forgetting about his teammates ala Westbrook? That’s been the biggest knock on Wetsbrook lately. He thinks about scoring too much instead of dishing the rock out to the best scorer in the league. I don’t want Wall’s mentality to get like that.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 12, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

wait wait

So a truncated season of being more aggressive is enough to morph John Wall into Steph Marbury? I just cant get there. And this season is a free pass, Wall is w/o an all-world scorer. Why would u rather have Wall to continue to do his really really well (dish) with what we all know will continue to be sub-par results, or work on what he absolutely sucks at right now which is gettin to the rim in the halfcourt/ drawing fouls.

There is so little to be learned from the way he’s playing offense right now. He finds Shard on the 3pt line with a sweet pass – Shard misses. Lesson learned: Damn Lewis cant shoot worth a damn. Or He hits Nick in stride off a curl – Wall just sits back and watches if it goes in or not. Nothing learned. If he drives and misses on layup. Hmm maybe i need to put it off the glass a lil higher next time. If he drives and doesnt get a foul, hmm the refs wont call that. These are the lessons he needs.

by KurisuDevil on Jan 12, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs a shooting coach

Good form and lots of practice will give him the confidence to make those J’s
He needs lower body strength training.

by spotless on Jan 12, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I'll be the first one to say it

Others have hinted at it, but it’s pretty apparent: JaVale McGee is our best player on the court consistently this season, and I could actually see him being our best player – period – when everything is said and done.

I’ll start out by saying both players have good work ethics. However, JaVale is seeing results from his off season work (much better foot work, a great looking hook shot, a baseline spin move). John isn’t. Whether John learns to shoot well, we’ll find out in time, but he does have the work ethic to make it work.

Then there’s the pure ability to be a “difference maker”…to just have a player in the game that makes a huge impact on both sides of the floor. I would argue that in this sense, JaVale makes much more of an impact on each and every game (this season) than John Wall has. This season, JaVale has been unbelievable on defense (and again, has improved here), and on offense, he’s shown great moves and played within himself, something he had tons of trouble doing in the past. Last night, players on the bulls were legitimately afraid to come into the paint when JaVale was in, because they knew he would be there to challenge every shot. It’s truly a shame that JaVale couldn’t play the entire game, because Seraphin really hurt us….but that’s a completely different topic….

Then, of course, there’s the confidence to keep pushing, and just KNOW that you’re the best player on the court. I feel like John shows flashes of this, but then minutes later, he’s pouting, he’s frowning, he’s shooting a jumper KNOWING he won’t make it. I’m serious, he shoots sometimes and just looks like he thinks there’s no chance it’ll go in. There are obvious moments where he lacks confidence and competitiveness….

Meanwhile, JaVale hasn’t ever met a shot he doesn’t KNOW he’s going to make. I feel like JaVale thinks he can make anything he shoots…even if he were to shoot a 3 pointer, I think his first initial thought would be “BUCKETSSSS!”…in the past, we saw that this would lead to a lot of poor shot selection by him, but this season, he’s let the game come to him and played more patiently, so when he does get a chance in the paint?

He knows he’s going to make it. He has supreme confidence in his ability, and I truly don’t think JaVale McGee ever doubts himself….EVER.

Lastly…I’d like to mention “upside”. I feel like a lot of us, myself included, feel like John Wall has absolutely absurd amounts of “upside”, or potential. He’s extremely gifted. It seems like some people forget though, that JaVale McGee might have more upside than any single player in the entire NBA. Including John Wall. John Wall isn’t done developing, but neither is McGee.

I don’t mean for this to sound like I’m bashing John Wall – I think the kid will be a perennial SUPER star once he gets some shooters around him…but I also think that JaVale McGee, when all of these young guys are done developing, could very well be our beset player, and main superstar.

Last year, I wrote JaVale McGee off completely, because I didn’t think he could ever become consistent. The scary part about this season is I find myself asking, “How good can this kid be eventually…” after almost every game. He’s playing at a (in my opinion) top 5 center level right now, but it doesn’t look like his skillset is fully fleshed out yet.

What happens when he gets even better? And who’s to say that McGee won’t end up being a better, more impactful player that Wall?

Just food for thought…sorry for the wall of text…

by DCeee on Jan 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Mcgee is getting better and if he gets coached up and the natural experience factor kicks in he could become a helluva player.

His shot blocking prowess is starting to become Hakeem like. He’s really starting tio intimidate people Boozer and deng were just scared to challeneg him in the paint ad he had Noah just completely frustrated.

Mcgee needs to try and get the asthma thing more under control because he loses energy quite quickly at times.

Offensively he just need to concentrate on the finish more than the move too many nice move oh the shot rolled off type plays. He needs to recognize how a particular player might challenge a shot and use the counter every time against that guy.

But he’s making progress.

Wall is getting better defensively he swich onto Korver and did a good job he’s becoming quite the shot blocker not all of the Lucas plays were on him our bigs are pretty crappy playing the pick and roll and showing out. so thats on them some as well.

Wall will get there he has the raw ability its just alitle more raw than we’d like at this point he’s young give it time.

by jazzy1 on Jan 12, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He's smart, which is thing he never got credit for.

The guy is a late bloomer who didnt play Center til later in his life, much of what we’re seeing now is the experience factor. He watches film and has logged the nba minutes, now he knows what he’s seeing and is no longer always trying to use pure athleticism to recover from being late. Add to that his cement-shoe buddy having been replaced with Book, and Mcgee can really let loose out there and dominate the paint.

Javale looks like he spent the summer analyzing last season’s film of himself. Pay the man, Ted. (and hope he keeps doing it after the cash rolls in)

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I wouldn't go as far to say he's smart

He still takes some ridiculously crazy/wild shots. Opposing announcers are still laughing at him with some of his “offensive moves”. He’s improving no doubt, but he doesn’t quite get it yet. Still tries to swat everything into the stands, tries way too much to block jump shots thus taking him out of position to rebound underneath.

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jan 12, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i meant a smart person capable of learning and developing

rather that the “run and jump” athlete who would play the same way for his whole career, as many wiz fans believed was the case.

no doubt he doesnt get it all yet, not by a long shot, but the tangible improvement has been consistently there….so at 23yrs old and 7’1" i’ll take it

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I definitely feel like Wall is a lot more raw than we all thought he was last year.

Crazy what good scouting reports and a lot more tape on him (as opposed to when he was a rookie) does for the opposition.

by DCeee on Jan 12, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree completely -- he's the (positive) story of the season for us

And his development alone makes each game worth watching.

He utterly dominated Joakim Noah last night, and it was almost a bit surreal. In such a center-weak league, getting Javale locked up long-term will be an enormous advantage for this franchise. He’s a legitimate difference maker on both ends of the court.

And for the “eye test” vs “stat guys” argument, there’s unfortunately no stat that can properly convey how many shots he either alters into a miss or intimidates into a pass/turnover

by Max Zamphirescu on Jan 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also, I think it's worth noting

…that if we could just fill in a bunch of great shooters around John Wall and JaVale McGee, as John develops a jumper, and JaVale continues to improve on his post game, demand more touches, and demand a double team almost every time he gets the ball in the block…

Our team could be really, really good. John hitting a shooter for a wide open 3 after he draws 2 or 3 defenders onto him, or JaVale consistently drawing double teams to kick it out to an open Singleton.

The future could be really bright if we draft well and get some shooters on this team.

by DCeee on Jan 12, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

I am also confused by one thing with te Wizards

why the hell don’t they give Mcgee the ball more on the block. The only time he really misses shots is when he gets the ball too far from the basket and is forced to try some sorta evasive manuver and sometimes get himself into trouble. With so many terrible shooters why not pound it to him and let him work the hook and up and under.

Wizards team from the coaches and some players really don’t get it. he could get guys better looks if we tried establishing him we did it more last season this season its just been fire away.

by jazzy1 on Jan 12, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

why doesnt John look for him more down there?

how come JCraw has fed Javale more oops than John? who knows whats going on

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

something got funny between those 2 Wall and Mcgee last season

Wall doesn’t appear to be really plugged in mentally right now the pressure and turmoil is getting to him. He should be looking for a high percentage guy like Mcgee all the time instead he goes outta his way to throw a pass to Nick Young who everyone knows is playing for himself and killing the team.

He should be ordering Mcgee post ups he should be trying to create opportunities to get assist by looking for Mcgee who is the best finisher on the team.

by jazzy1 on Jan 12, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

According to statistics

Nick Young isn’t killing the team…

http://www.nba.com/statscube/team-vs-player.html#Wizards-vs-Nick-Young|1610612764,201156;year=201112;season=

Now, as basically the only scorer he clearly isn’t leading, carrying, or meeting expectations.

But that is a far cry from killing the team….

I am very disappointed in his play, but when let’s try to be as fair as possible.

Crawford on the other hand…

http://www.nba.com/statscube/team-vs-player.html#Wizards-vs-Jordan-Crawford|1610612764,202348;year=201112;season=r

Btw-McGee numbers are interesting, and the lineup comparison is worth checking out…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Javale's simple rating is horrible, but Singleton's is even worse

meanwhile Nick’s is basically tops on the team (mack hasnt played enough imo)….stats, who knows

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes...those jumped out

which why I pointed it out…

it looked very odd…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

although....it might have a lot to do with opponents

impact…

McGee had Howard et al on the resume…Singleton has Melo’s game and Pierce against him…that might play into the defensive rating…

I will probably go check when I have time because those jumped out at me as well..

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick escaped last night with a -1 +/-

apparently getting it done in ways not detectable to the naked eye

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

yep...even with the -1

His lack of hustle and lack of energy were readily apparent…I was amazed when I saw that….

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what I am seeing

Nick getting almost 14 a game shooting 37 as the go to guy is just dreadful 2 boards and a dime a game is even worse.

Crawford is awful a blind man could see that . But to have Young get the ball as much as he does and absolutely not be productive is killing this team and thats truly being as fair as I can be.

by jazzy1 on Jan 12, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We all can agree that young is playing badly

But if the team is doing better with him on the floor than without him…it is tough to argue he is killing us.

I agree…he is currently our top scoring option and is not scoring. I call that not living up to expectations.

if killing us is “not being as productive as expected”, then Wall, Blatche, Lewis, Crawford, Young are all killing us.

Now to be fair…I suspect you and possibly others would call that true as well. But it seemed as though you were saying that without Nick playing, we would be doing better. Statistically, that isn’t true. That is my only point.

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm no nick fan

but killing the team? that’s a stretch.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

how many of those FGAs were attempted tip ins last night?

I was wondering how often those get counted as FGAs…i’m assuming they do cause you do get a board and a shot when you make them right?

anyway 5-13 was still better than John, Nick, Crawford, or Lewis shot

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If McGee does go elsewhere

I will sure miss those 0.2 assists he gets every game.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They are both on their contract year

and they play like it. I think it builds a case to let both of them go. Get with the program or beat it.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what program is that?

have the worst offense in nba history? do you really think the problem with the team stems from something mcgee is doing or isnt doing this season? i’m sorry but that’s kind of absurd and seems like simple hating more than anything else

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Those numbers say that Singleton helps us in some areas, hurts us in others. Overall, those numbers say we’re better with Singleton. Makes sense to me.

by yop32 on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

seeing what you want to see in the numbers

until the past two games, singleton (who i love btw) has mainly been involved in wiz runs vs 2nd teams after our first team is down 20 or whatever. i’m not trying discount statcube which i think is awesome, but at this point in the season i do think “eyeball” test is muhc more valid. I mean the stats say that right now Nick is the best player on the team, 8 games into the season perhaps a grain of salt is in order

by DCrez on Jan 13, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The numbers don't show what you say

According to the stats, Singleton’s on/off +/- is actually neutral. The main thing I looked for though was his effect on our OffRtg, DefRtg, NetRtg, and STLs. The numbers look like you’d expect them to look there.

by yop32 on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

at 82games his simple rating is 2nd worst only to JCraw

but even at neutral….so that means it makes no difference whether the guy plays or not? Obviously that’s not valid (imo).

by DCrez on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't like 82games early in the season

They tend to be slow to update their numbers. Add that to the already small sample size, and I don’t find them so useful early in the season. Love their stuff once the sample size gets bigger, though.

by yop32 on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

uh oh, looks like Vesely is the team's biggest problem of all

http://www.nba.com/statscube/team-vs-player.html#Wizards-vs-Jan-Vesely|1610612764,202686;year=201112;season=r

seriously though i dont know…stats are weird, maybe the sample size is still too small? at any rate i’m not sure how many valid conclusions we can draw from those charts…or maybe i am reading them incorrectly

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully, as you suggested, that’s a sample size issue. Since he has so few minutes, his awful first showing weighs heavily. Hopefully, the much stronger play we’ve seen since then is more characteristic.

by yop32 on Jan 12, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

people see what they want to see

Vesely was at best irrelevant or worse vs the Bulls but people like him as a new rookie so it gets overlooked and the 5 steals from the previous game is what people think about. Javale is a polarizing player, not as good as the way I post about his play but not problem others feel he is imo

by DCrez on Jan 13, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The program is simple

Look to use your team mates to set you up a better shot. Pass, get the defense to move and try again. I don’t see that with some players-Jordans kids. Does McGees ability to score ever help anyone but himself? Very, very, very rare. What good is he?

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jabbar is the greatest scorer in NBA history

and he knew had to pass the ball. He knew how to block shots and be a team player. McGee is garbage next to Jabbar. So who the eff is Mcgee to be this garbagey, second rate player and think he is some focal point of a team. He is no one. Cut his ass.

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I am sure

because the team is now at a 50 year nadir, garbage like McGee figures in to some value to the team, but only because the team sucks balls right now.

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, I know

This team has some chumps. Guys who care about looking good and getting accolades, not winning for winnings sake
I just think one selfish player can be manageable for now. Plus, he is our most tradeable asset.

by spotless on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The biggest problem is the fan base

the team throws out all this junk, we forget what real basketball looks like. Its time to start demanding a real team. Don’t feed me all these junk food teams. Give a real team with talent. Lets see if that fat Greek can come up with one.

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Im not sure what your motive is

But most of your posts I have been reading are coming across as angry rants..

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 13, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose crap teams should make me content

and we can all sit around the VC celebrating a win. Leonsis owns this team and he has to give people like me a reason to care. I am not going to accept what he puts out there. Don’t tell me the players that are on the team will amount to anything. Give me something that does.

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

For the last 2 seasons

the Wizards have been the joke of the NBA. And there is Leonjsis telling me that all will be well. Yet, I do not see anything to back up anything he says. I should expect next season all will be improved because the team will have all these yet to be named players on the team. I don’t believe him. I think Leonsis is masterfully yanking everyones umbilical cord. I don’t believe for 2 seconds his sales job. Put up or shut up.

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

This team could have signed 5 vets

to play together and help Wall. They didn’t. Sort of tells you where the mindset is of this organization.

by hambonejackson on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

good stuff hambone

don’t agree with all of it, but i think you do speak some truth.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Javale is young

And he’s still learning to play his position. Because that’s what people do. He’s not at the point where he passes out of the post like Shaq or Duncan yet, you’re right. But very, very, very few players do. Imagine how much less experience he has doing those things than Kareem….

When you start calling for is to cut the most improved 7 footer outside of Bynum (hey look, another young 7 footer who took time to learn and develop, but is now blossoming but the Lakers should have probably cut him years ago because he doesn’t play like Kareem) this year, then you might as well stop cheering for this team.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   2 recs

The Ziller article is a must read

Really helped lower my Wizards blood pressure.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Jan 12, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

I am sick of Teds Take

I wrote a scathing commentary on his BS Blog. I am not going to read him or believe any thing he says until he starts to put some money out on this team. Turning the team in to the worst team in basketball must be the plan. I look at the FA signings this season and it has cheap and con written all over it. How the eff is he going to get these big time FAs? Where are they? Who are they? He doesn’t know. They will just be there when Ted is ready. He keeps touting the Capitals as a big success. How are they a success? They aren’t except as ticket sales.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

thing is caps are winning consistently and they are clearly THE ticket in town.

We can go spend if we want, but he’ll be damned for a 60 million deal on Nick Young and another 70 on JaVale for next year. I don’t know which top or 2nd tier FA’s want to come here right now..

But when your team is expected to be bad, why spend more on it?

The toughest tickets to get at a good deal are the VIP’s, but even 100’s are well below STH on the secondary market for most games…

by thewiz06 on Jan 12, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

well below isn't being generous

from what I can tell, people are luck to get 80% back for a non-premium game…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

For a VIP ticket though behind the basket, most guys are getting money back on that.

$137 ticket price vs. $200 gate price minimum, and these STH’s can sell their tickets for at least $150 just because of the food

by thewiz06 on Jan 12, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

that is good to know...but the 100s are not getting anywhere close to that

return…

Are you selling or looking up the numbers on StubHub?

Also, are those number the same for the non-premium games?

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Ted left McPhee in place just as he's left Ern running the show here.

difference being that Mcphee had taken the team to the Finals a few years prior, where as Ernie’s highpoint here has been a 45 win team

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The Caps are a marginal playoff team

they lose in the 1st round. How is that success? All he cares about are ticket sales. Thats success to Ted; peddle my wares and hope someone buys them. As a sports fan I consider success winning something. Look how much the Wiz put out on FAs this season. There is a big difference between talking about something and doing it. All I have seen him do is slash payroll as far as he can and then claim that its so they can sign FAs. Really. He can’t even get his own players signed except Blatche. He keeps trying to hawk “the plan” like “the plan” is all that matters. Now there is “plan B”. i think he needs to stop talking about “the plan” and start getting some players for Wall. Plans don’t win games, good players do. Does he have a plan about the lottery? Or who the FAs are they can sign? Its peddling hope and that things are in control when they aren’t. His plan is to be as cheap as possible. Thats what he has accomplished so far.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

First of all

None of the big-time stars want to come here. Second, If we shedded out the cash on FAs this year, it would have most likely been on a lower tier star like Nene or David West, and that would’ve been the worst kind of move for us to make. Those guys would’ve probably raised our record a little, but probably not enough for us to make the playoffs, and it would lower our chances of getting a high draft pick. I don’t want the team to be stuck in mediocrity. I would rather suck than be a perennial playoff team that’s guaranteed to get knocked out the 1st round. It’s important that we maintain our cap flexibility until we’re ready to make that big move for an actual star that wants to come here.

Ted needs to stay the course and not rush the rebuild.

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 12, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

when will the big time FAs want to come here?

dont we have to get to the playoffs and have some success to attract them?

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

They have to develop Wall

and giving him a bunch of rookies to play with is not developing him. He needs some good vets and they are not giving him any.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair point.

But on balance its a lot easier to identify most needs than it is to fill them. Both in life and in pro basketball.

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

In direct response to you DMV

they had better think about Wall. They have him and they have to develop him and he needs players to play with. If they think Wall isn’t worth investing in, then Grunfeld should be fired. In reading Idiots Take, he is clueless except about how to afford his wifes lust for art. I don’t care about what Teds Take is any more. He owns the team and he is free to destroy it and so far, he is. They had better start doing something or no one is going to believe anything he writes.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I am so sick of reading his "plans"

Why doesn’t he make it a plan on getting some good players for the team. I don’t care how he does it. I don’t care about the “Oklahoma model” because Oklahoma just went out and drafted some players. Its not even a model. Its what they did. Lets have the go out and try the “lets get some good players” model so that the player you invested so much in can improve.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was raised by a Greek man who I dearly love

so I have no hesitation to write as a final phrase “you dumb Greek”.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

And if its any consolation to Leonsis

I have not only been to Greece, but many relatives I did not know.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

yikes....struck a nerve

:)

It is frustrating. But we don’t have to call him names.

But we can voice our opinion.

I say let’s give him some more time to see it works out. But in the interim…it would be nice if he didn’t keep telling us about “the plan”. A little more direct empathy would likely go a long way…talking about the net present value of current VIP seats, in this economy, probably isn’t the best way to garner favor.

Who knows…

by DavidDunn on Jan 12, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that he has to do something

First, he needs to fire Flip, and then maybe EG after the season (even though I’m not sure he’s too deserving).

Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG

by DMVLeGenD on Jan 12, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

no amount of putrid play and performance by the team gets anything more than a passing response

from Ted, almost just an obligatory “we have young players, patience, process blah blah.” You can tell he doesnt actually care, he wants to lose as part of the “plan.” And he certainly doesnt care that the Wizards play is the butt of so many jokes.

but the moment somebody sells a ticket for $.30, holy lord look out Ted is incensed! The media are liars and out to get us and the truth is those tickets are the best investment you can make in your life here let me prove it you. have you seen the Caps!! Look at this study I did and on and on.

just so irate about all of it, makes it painfully clear what he actually cares about at this stage and it is most certainly not how the teams plays.

by DCrez on Jan 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Mason and Mo and Nick

All shooting guards, all signed over the offseason, all suck. 2 of them can’t get on the court. Did Ernie do any scouting or did he lood only in the “used to play for the Wizards so we already know what they can do” bin. Well at least it wasn’t Mike James.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 5:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Kris Humphries

Would have filled the gaping hole at PF nicely.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I thought we were talking about SGs.

But okay. If we had put our bid in, do you think that the Nets would have let him walk?

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You do realize

the Wiz might not win 10 games? They are vying for title of worst team ever? That most nights they have no legit shot of winning?

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You need to realize though

That this team is committed molding their young talent and building through the draft, supposedly. The team is also playing better defense and team basketball lately, i see them passing 10 wins but as fans that’s what we need to quit focusing on.

If we aren’t going to the playoffs anyway, the number of wins is irrelevant. Its about improvement.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 12, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I do.

You realize that neither Kris Humphries, who we couldn’t afford, nor any FA that we could afford would have made a real dent in that right?

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The team couldn't afford Humphries?

I am not specifically referring to him, but yea the team can afford Humphries. There biggest challenge this last off season was to get payroll up to meet league requirements.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Jersey gave him 1yr, $8m.

Do you think they would have let him walk for 1yr $8.001m?
1yr $9m? $9.25m?
2yrs $19m?

Do you like those prices for a guy who isn’t gonna move the bottom line for us?

Do you think Deron Williams would have liked that?

We had a problem meeting the salary floor?

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not quite

Just not as good as people think.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The real story in LA

Is that Odom and Gasol are putting up big numbers.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Please dont try to discredit Kobe Bryant, that will get you nowhere. And for the record, they are talented players but I’m sure playing alongside a player like Kobe has something to do with how defenses play you

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 13, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably don't all fit in one fist full

But somehow people can argue that Lebron’s PER is more substantial to a best player argument than Kobe’s six rings.

Okay…

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Hey what happened to the rest of my message???

Anyway, at what point do you think Jersey would not have matched?
1yr $9m? $9.25m?
2yrs $18m? $20m?

Is that worth it for a guy who isn’t gonna move the bottom line more than an inch for us?

You’re Prokhorov. Would Deron Williams have been more inclined to stay or leave next year?

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

But the fact he signed a one-year deal says they weren’t real keen on signing him.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it says that.

But it says “there was no interest around the league for him at anything more than bargain basement prices” much more loudly. It says that NOBODY offered him more than 1yr $8m.

It also says they and a lot of other teams want to keep their options open for next offseason’s much better FA market. As do we.

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

any number

that prevents them to sign D.Howard next season.

by vmr on Jan 13, 2012 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely agree

I was surprised that Humphries didn’t get looks from more teams. I wanted him here because he’s a hard worker, good rebounder and effective in the paint. I can understand with all the young talent that needs evaluating in the front court why we didn’t go after him though.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 12, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

YOUNG TALENT?!!/!??!?!?!?!??!?/

You’re kidding, right? Seraphin? Blatche? Ndiaye? There is no young talent there’s plenty of warm bodies who don’t belong in the NBA.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Your opinion

They need to be evaluated nonetheless. And thats what they turn out to be, so be it.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 12, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

All known quantities

Blatche is what he is. Ndiaye and Seraphin are not NBA calibre and belong in ND, and Ndiaye had trouble getting playing time last time he was there. Booker is nice but he can play SF, same with JV. Except for last, all known quantities, mostly warm bodies.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean iowa

booker needs a more consistent perimeter shot to be a good 3, though he’s got the footspeed obviously

by thewiz06 on Jan 12, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

But they call ND the Wiz, which is confusing.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Booker is a hybrid

do you really want Booker on the perimeter? He is a good O-boarder. I kind of like him near the basket. He is decent around the basket. He is a pretty good interior passer. I don’t consider him a starter, but I wouldn’t mind him on my team.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a good guy

To get 25 minutes a game. I don’t think he’s a starter for a winning team.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Booker is strong and amazingly quick

and best of all, he is a pretty good basketball player.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

WoWins had him as the best player on the Wiz. Except for Othyus Jeffers, of course.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually Javale is better

But not as good at Othyus “The Great.”

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Had it right the first time

Booker is slightly better than McGee per 48, one of the elite 4s in the league, in the second rank right below Humphries, Odom, Garnett. (And for those who aren’t believers, why did the Wiz immediately play better when he replaced Blatche?)

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I watch McGee

and I can see how he can make a difference on the court, except that he plays as if he is the only player on the court.

by hambonejackson on Jan 12, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

He was dumb enough to say I do. He may have even been dumb enough to ask for the privilege to do so…

by jones-y on Jan 12, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I haven't seen Mason played much

How is he doing? Can he be that much worse than Nick and Crawford to see no playing time at all?

by isum on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think he's played the last couple games

Not sure why, he’s probably the only player on the roster that will hit the open 3. 3rd on our team which is horrible because he’s only at .300.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 12, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

To those complaining about the rebuilding

I agree more could have been done this offseason. But remember that Pollin aimed for mediocrity (exemplified by nobody more than Juwan Howard) and he achieved it. At least Ted is aiming high.

by ReturnofBillyJOe on Jan 12, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

The lowest scoring team in NBA history

Only confirms my belief we need a consistent back court partner to pair with Wall to pace the team in scoring and take pressure off him as well. Looking like Jeremy Lamb this year and I’m not mad about it.

Also, the writeup about John Wall not being the savoir is 100% on the money. Not on the front of his being the savior or not, but all the points made for the argument were deadly accurate and echos most our common concerns. And as I read on who does he recommend we draft…..since last year all signs pointed to this.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 12, 2012 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Uh, no

john walls first professional offseason was spent flying solo
For a very young and raw player, that’s tough
When a moribund franchise filled with after thoughts makes you it’s savior from day one, it’s even tougher

The kid needs a shooting coach, and work on his lower body strength
And professional teammates
Everything else will fall in place.

by spotless on Jan 13, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No to what??

Im not understanding what you would have to disagree with from what i wrote. Maybe go back and read or maybe I’m not understanding your point

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 13, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

No

1. Wall can’t shoot.
Shooting coach.

2. Who does he make better.
This team f’n sucks

3. Out of control layups cause injuries
Improved Lower body strength will fix that

4. Poor decision making
Totally disagree. No help on offense. None

by spotless on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

A good shooting coach will fix his shooting form. His confidence will come back

He needs better leg strength to stop on a dime and to explode at the rim

This can be done
He had the heart and work ethic
He will go off on this league

by spotless on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

No one said it wouldn't

The issue is not whether his shot or form is fixable, it was, can he shoot? The answer is no. I don’t see how you can even argue this??

No one is doubting Wall or even wishing he fails, I’m just looking at the facts supported by the evidence. We all obviously wishes he becomes everything he’s supposed to.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't doubt your fandom

Let’s of posts on here bout how bad Wall is and will be.
Feel people are being short sighted about all of this
And if it doesn’t apply don’t sweat it

by spotless on Jan 13, 2012 7:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont understand what you're talking about

1. Shooting coach? So….what does this mean? He CAN shoot?

2. The team being bad is the entire reason he was drafted as the face of it, he’s supposed to make everyone better…..

3. Improving your lower body strength doesn’t take away from the fact that out of control layups cause injury. The strongest person in the world can injure themselves if they aren’t in control of their body

4. More excuses, his decision making isn’t very good and that is the reason he struggles in the half-court. His shot is a huge part of it but he doesn’t yet know how to play the angles and change speeds.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Tje point is I think he can make half ass decent players better, our guys blow chunks on offense

I also think his decision making is no worsre than what any other young raw star prospect

What standard are we holding john to?
thekid is young, missed his first ever nba offseason and plays for a historicly bad team, with a bunch of unprofessional goofs and some very young defensive hustle role players
Let the man grow

by spotless on Jan 13, 2012 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Well to keep things in perspective

would we rather be talking about how bad the Wizards are, or would we rather be talking about how the 3012 draft lottery will be worked out because of the cancellation of the season?

All things considered, I’d rather see us play, but I can understand why if some folks here would have rather seen this season cancelled because of the lockout.

by thewiz06 on Jan 12, 2012 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

I actually agree with this quote by ReturnofBillyJoe
Replace Crawford and Young with an avg NBA SGtg

And you’ll see another leap forward.

Hopefully Young gets his act together as the season rolls along.

Even still, we say average and maybe they can’t shoot as well as when Young is ‘on’ or score as well when Crawford is ‘on’, but they’ll be much more consistent and have more rebounds and assists.

This could also be the final step* because we’ve seen McGee-Book-Singleton hold it down and obviously we are committed to Wall at the point. That leaves only the SG spot up in the air

PG-Wall
SG-You already know, we’’l have to wait until next year though
SF-Singleton/Jan
PF-Booker/Jan
C-BigaVale

*I dont mean final step as about to compete for the title, I mean the final step in gaining an identity.

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

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