Possible Salary Amnesty: Who are you dropping?
by ThePGPhenomenon on Sep 28, 2011 1:53 PM EDT
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I've been reading multiple articles about the proposal for teams being allowed to drop one contract off of their salary cap in an effort to get under what would be the new salary cap. There is a lot of debate about who should go and who contract we should keep, so I decide to give my take on the Wizards and few other teams of interest:
Wizards, Drop: Andray Blatche
I know, I know, you probably think I'm nuts because I didn't pick Rashard Lewis, but look at it like this, Rashard Lewis contract has only two years left on it, Blatche's contract has another four. Although I like some of the things that I've heard about Blatche lately, his contract is way too long for a player that has quite a few question marks on him and unless he has an unbelievable year, he is probably untradeable at this point. So would you want to be stuck with a possible malcontent for years to come to be on the roster with your young budding superstar? Besides Lewis is the team's best shooter, will be a huge trade asset next year (since it will be expiring), and is the only real veteran presence left on the team. Who knows, you probably could sign Blatche back for a much shorter and more reasonable contract.
Chicago, Drop: Carlos Boozer
Are they really going to pay this guy close to $15 million for the next 4 years? He did not show up in the playoffs and once again showed that he get abused by more athletic PFs in the league. Given that offensively he didn't really provide any consistency when it mattered, this team can clear the cap space, erase that mistake, and use the money to get a better second scoring option. If they are concerned about the PF position, Gibson is exceptional on defense and has potential offensively. He provides a lot more positives than a non-scoring Boozer who doesn't provide anything when he's not scoring.
Orlando, Drop: Gilbert Arenas
Is this really necessary to explain? Just was a bad decision altogether to trade for him (we aren't complaining). Although I have my doubt that this will actually happen because of Arenas' relationship with GM Otis Smith, I still think that this is the best decision. He has 3 more years of making about $20 million and he is more than likely going to spend most of that time coming off the bench. Stan Van Gundy is probably not a good coach for him so with that said, Arenas will probably has a hard time earning that money if he stays.
Miami, Drop: Mike Miller
Stayed injured for a majority of the season and had a very up and down playoffs, and probably is on his way to declining. If you can keep him for a cheaper price, great, but James Jones, who won the 3 point contest, is a much more effective 3 point threat. What's the point of keeping Miller, when he shot 36% from 3 while Jones shot 43%?
I know there are a lot more, who else do you all think should go from some of the other teams?
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well, I'd keep Rashard because we need someone at SF anyway and he is still going to be our best option there,
and he provides a good “veteran by example” presence. If he can rekindle a bit of his Sonics days, that would be great. I also would have to give Dray the amnesty clause myself.
New Orleans should drop Emeka Okafor because he is overpaid, though not grossly, and also because that team is looking to blow up ASAP because of its situation.
Who knows, you probably could sign Blatche back for a much shorter and more reasonable contract.
If the Owners put in an amnesty, there will be a no-resign provision. In other words, if you release a player to save cap room, you will NOT be able to resign that same player.
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Orlando is in a bad situation...
Even if they use the amnesty, and release Arenas – they will STILL have Turkoglu and Reddick, and $57 Million tied up in only 9 players. Their cap situation will be better, but not enough to add anyone that will make a significant difference.
Bye bye Dwight Howard…..
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As for releasing Blatche
It would make sense only if the Wizards believe they will have a high draft pick in the 2012 draft…
There are a couple of good Power Forward prospects in the 2012 draft: Jared Sullinger and Anthony Davis… If the Wizards could get one of those guys, it would be worth releasing Blatche…
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And if there IS an Amnesty program...
Which players should the Wizards target to sign, after they’ve been released from their teams.?
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We need depth at C
But we also want youth. I’d make a play for Oden or Thabeet. I’d also try for Biedrins. He was a very promising young player until his confidence got shattered. In a new environment, without the pressure of living up to a big contract, he could resurrect his career.
Is there any way to cross breed Biedrins with JaVale? They’re both physically gifted, but they’re at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of confidence and willingness to play within themselves.
Others
Detroit will almost certainly cut Rip Hamilton
Portland would probably part with Brandon Roy, and his 90-year old knees.
Now that Minnesota has Derrick Williams, do they still need Beasley? They could save money by releasing him.
And looking at the Dallas roster, you’d have to think that Mark Cuban is really regretting the foolish contract he gave to Brendan Haywood (six- year, $55 million) that will pay him $10 Million a year at age 36…. Haywood is a likely amnesty candidate. AND – a player the Wizards should look at signing if he’s released.
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No way I'm signing Haywood if I'm the Wizards
He’s going to still demand too much money because he is a big and he is guaranteed to be on the decline at some point of that contract if you sign him to a multi year deal. On top of that, if you look at this roster, this team is ready to run, Haywood is much more effective as a half court player.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Sep 28, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Haywood's too old
I’d rather take a flyer on a young but disappointing player. I don’t like headcases like Beasley, but I might be convinced to give Oden or Thabeet a try.
Another option would be to trade Rashard (who would be waived after the trade) for multiple players. Let the other team clear more cap space, but they have to pay for it with a young prospect or draft pick.
Yeah - that's an idea
trade Rashard (who would be waived after the trade) for multiple players. Let the other team clear more cap space, but they have to pay for it with a young prospect or draft pick.
Especially if they could get a young PF in return – then the Wizards could use their amnesty on Blatche….
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BOYD lives!
Patrick Patterson?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Sep 28, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Houston is too smart to let Patterson go...
They don’t really have a cap problem either, especially if they “amnesty” Hasheem Thabeet….
If there IS a real hard cap – the Wizards have to find a team with a really high payroll (Lakers, Spurs, Mavericks, Magic, etc…) desperate to get under the cap (or desperate to avoid paying 5x Luxury Tax)…. and look to steal a player away from them…
Rashard Lewis ($21 Million) to the Lakers for Bynum ($15 Mil) + Luke Walton ($5.7 Mil)
The Lakers keep their “core” (Kobe, Pau and Lamar Odom) – but shave their HUGE $93 Million payroll down to $75.6 Million (perhaps even enough to be under the cap, or avoid paying a huge tax bill)…
The Magic could extend Dwight Howard’s existing contract 5 years, starting at his 2012-13 salary of $19.5 Million and send him (with filler) in a sign and trade to Washington for Rashard Lewis, JaVale McGee, Chris Singleton, 2012 first round pick.
That deal gives Orlando tons of cap space, two up and coming young players, and a high draft pick in a deep draft – Perfect deal for them to be able to rebuild.
Those are the kind of deals I think the Wizards could do with Rashard Lewis’ contract in the Summer of 2012.
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I weouldn't trade for a 15 mil Bynum.
Let him be the Lakers mistake I would prefer to free up 22 mil right now and see who is out there.
The Wiz are not going to let go of Blatche. For a starting 4, he has a very reasonable contract he isn’t happy about..
by hambonejackson on Sep 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Except he isnt a starting 4
Other than that Flip starts him.
Playing like he did last yr, he wouldn have cracked the starting lineup on almost any other team. Dudes like Humphries or even Amir Johnson would have beat him out, let alone the Dirks’, ZBo’s or Aldridges’ of the league.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 28, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Blatche plays like an All-Star
in March….
The rest of the time, he’s Mediocre / Average at best.
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Yep, thats the point. He is capable of being worth his contract
But in reality he just isn’t.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 29, 2011 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, pre-empted me!
Writing an off-the-cuff trade scenario tomorrow for Rashard’s contract back to Orlando for DH12 (since we have nothing better to do)
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Sep 29, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's what I came up with....
Wizards trade:
Rashard Lewis, Andray Blatche, JaVale McGee, Jordan Crawford + 1st round pick in 2013
Orlando trades:
Dwight Howard + Gilbert Arenas
Wizards use amnesty on Arenas. They are stuck without a viable PF (unless you think Vesely, Singleton and Booker can hold down the fort until the 2012 Draft (with Sullinger and Anthony Davis available).. With that trade (assuming they release Arenas) the Wizards would STILL be pretty good on the Salary Cap front (roughly $38-40 Million in salaries for 12 players, including 2012 First round pick).
Starting unit: John Wall, Nick Young, Jan Vesely, Chris Singleton (or Booker), Dwight Howard.
Bench: Seraphin, Jeffers, Owens, Mack
That is a TREMENDOUS defensive team…. and a great running team… But it lacks shooting.
FOR ORLANDO,
The trade gives them a lot of good young players and a high draft pick. Plus if they amnesty Turkoglu ($11 Million), and release Rashard Lewis (saving another $12 Million), their cap situation would be MUCH improved (roughly $37-38 Million in salaries for 9 players)…. Their rebuild could begin immediately, with a core of Ryan Anderson, McGee, Crawford, and Blatche.
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A lot like what I'm thinking
I’ll throw your scenario in there, too, if that’s okay?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Sep 29, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok by me....
Obviously, Vesely or Singleton could be substituted for either Crawford or the 1st round pick…. but I didn’t want to give up either of those two guys….
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advantage: Heatles
As I understand it amnesty doesnt mean the player isnt going to get paid, he just doesnt count against the cap. So a guy like Rashard could sign 1yr vet minimum deals wherever he wanted to play while Ted’s still has to write him a $22mill check (minus the vet minimum). Legit, vet talent will be available to contending teams on the cheap.
Expect the Heat to load up on vet minimum guys....
Even guys like Gilbert Arenas and Rashard Lewis would be a steal at the Vet Minimum… (roughly $1 Million per year)…
The Heat could add needed pieces: Center (Haywood), and a PG (Arenas)
and then add some nice bench pieces (Rashard Lewis, Brandon Roy, Richard Jefferson, Jermaine O’Neal?, Jose Calderon?, Baron Davis?, etc…)
If they were released under the amnesty program, all those players would already be paid by their old teams – and would probably LOVE to win a title, playing for the League minimum in Miami.
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Depressing thought...
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 28, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now I'm thinking about Clipper fan reaction
to amnesty becoming a reality when they traded away their pick to shed Baron Davis’ deal…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Sep 28, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL....
Really – Cleveland could come out HUGE on that deal….
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Laughing all the way to the bank...
Just when the future looked brighter for the Clippers, they shat a possible dynasty
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Sep 29, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Rashard would actually get a raise
in that he’d avoid DC income tax by moving to Florida.
Would we want Gilbert back?
If we could get him for just a little over the vet minimum? I would think about it, mostly to keep him away from Miami.
We could sell him on the fact that DC is the only place where he has any chance to have his jersey retired.
I could actually see Gil having a fringe-All Star season
if he comes back healthy and in shape. From what I’ve heard out of him this offseason, he sounds motivated and said that he’s lost a lot of weight.
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$45,000,000 reasons to get rid of Rashard Lewis
Not to mention taking time from Chris Singleton, Vesely and Booker.
It's actually only $31,136,631 reasons....
His final year is only guaranteed for $10 Million….. so if the Wizards cut him, they only pay him $10 Million (and only $10 Million is counted against the salary cap)…
Does ANYONE here think Rashard won’t be cut in the Summer of 2012?
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Oh and by the way...
Because Lewis’ contract is only guaranteed for $10 Million – he becomes a valuable trade asset for the Wizards in the Summer of 2012. Which ever team trades for him, can immediately cut him and save over $12 Million on their Cap.
(FYI: Dwight Howard can opt out of his contract in the Summer of 2012; so Orlando may be looking for a sign-and-trade partner)
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Not that valuable due to more supply and less demand
If there is amnesty, everyone who has a terrible contract to dump will dump it, which means there will be a lot less cap pressure and a lot more teams out there with space. I don’t see that being a big asset in 2012 if there’s amnesty. Bad timing.
Los Angeles has $90 MILLION in salary for this year....
To get down to a $65 Million hard cap – they must shed $25 Million dollars…
Orlando has a similar problem – and no, simply cutting Arenas doesn’t solve all of Orlando’s cap problems.
Dallas, San Antonio, Portland – all have similar problems – they can’t shed enough salary, AND field a 12 man roster….
There WILL be a market for Lewis – and his non-guaranteed contract. As far as I know, he has the largest potential cap savings of any other trade-able player.
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They still have to pay him
Since the Wizards are going to be under the cap this year, there’s little reason to cut Lewis. They still have to pay him so there is no savings to the team and he’s only due $10 million next year, so there is no real incentive to pay him to go away. Indeed, it’s more expensive to use the amnesty as you pay both the guy you cut and his replacement. The only real candidate would be Blatche since he has the longest contract and many would use the addition by subtraction argument.
Gaining amnesty from the Luxury Tax
is COMPLETELY different from gaining CAP RELIEF…
The Owners want to be able to release one player to gain cap relief (not just Luxury Tax relief)… big difference there.
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Puzzling
The Owners want to be able to release one player to gain cap relief (not just Luxury Tax relief)
This puzzles me. The old amnesty program allowed owners to SAVE real money on the luxury tax. This amnesty is designed for owners to circumvent the new salary cap by SPENDING MORE. They pay both the cut player and his replacement.
So an amnesty program is completely inconsistent with the owners’ desire to cut payroll.
It is assumed that there will be a hard cap...
and that teams like the Lakers, Mavericks, Magic (etc…) will need an amnesty clause to get under the hard cap. Without an amnesty clause, those teams would find it impossible to comply with the League cap rules under a new CBA.
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I am wondering if the Lakers
will release Gasol. he is a real cap killer for the Lakers.
Got to be Rashard
Purely for business reasons. The guy makes more than double anyone else makes. Is he a veteran presence? Perhaps, but the leader on this team is Jimmy Wall andveryone knows this. Freeing up that space would allow us to go after any number of free agents who could help (like a veteran big to push Dray and JaVale). ray can also be considered a trade chip considering his “potential” and his relatively reasonable salary.
On a basketball note, getting rid of Rashard would allow the young guns to play at the 3 and the 4. He’s not a long term solution by any means, getting rid of him would just speed up the process. At this point we have Vesely, Booker, Singleton, Seraphin who all need PT to develop. Remember it took OKC 3 (THREE!) Top 5 picks to return to contention and despite Jimmy’s lofty expectations, we’re going to be a lottery team this year anyways. Might as well let the boys play and figure it out themselves.
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Sep 28, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
If we got rid of Lewis
the most senior person on this team would be Andray Blatche. Regardless of John Wall’s ability don’t you think it would benefit this team to have someone who has some type of experience playing a role on a winning team? I mean even the Thunder had veteran players like Nenad Kristic, Thabo Sefolosha, and Nick Collison with some playoff experience.
Also why would you get a free agent at this point? What big name free agent is there out there worth getting that is going to make this team a contender? It would seem to make more sense to wait another year for better free agent options and keep money free to sign someone big like Dwight Howard for example. This team right now is not a playoff team, even if you add the best free agent available, we wouldn’t be a contender. Why settle for mediocre free agent players at this point?
by ThePGPhenomenon on Sep 29, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Ted is willing to cancel the season so he can spend less money on players in the future.
There is no way he would sign a pricey FA unless Rashard’s deal was voided, not just taken off the CAP
Amnesty is a fun topic, but Simmons seems way too certain it'll be a part of a new deal
Seems like the owners would prefer salary rollbacks instead.
Even with salary roll-backs...
Teams like the Lakers ($93 Million), Dallas and Orlando will need some kind of amnesty if there is a hard cap…
Otherwise, they’ll need at least some kind of mechanism to grandfather in their existing contracts – or a gradual easing in of the hard cap restrictions.
Look for the Owners to take the “easy” way out = amnesty clause.
The poorer teams (New Orleans, Minnesota, etc…) may not even need to use the amnesty, whereas the big spenders from the past (Lakers, Dallas, etc…) will NEED to use it – and those are the teams that can most afford to pay a player and release them, and still take on another player (at a lower salary)…. After all, Dallas paid $10 Million to Keith Van Horn after he had retired, just to use him in a trade….
I’d think that the “rich” teams (ie: those teams making money hand over fist) would be ALL FOR an amnesty clause….
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Trade Lewis, release Blatche
That’s what I would do.
Trade Lewis for young guns/picks and let the other team cut him.
Cut Blatche and either resign him for 2 yrs/5 million (or something like that) or let him walk all together.
I wouldn’t even be mad if Rashard signs with the Heat for the vet minimum and/or AB gets it together in an other envirement.
For our starting PF we can either use/platoon our current players (Booker, Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin) or one that we receive in the trade for Lewis. We would probably be a worse team in the short term but it sets us up for a high pick in the draft and we’ll be better for it in the long run.
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1- Lewis
2 – EG
3- Blatche
The team would be better over the next couple of years without them (unless in Blatche’s case, his attitude totally changes with age).
Again....
why use the amnesty on Lewis? It’s a complete waste… If you release him, the Wizards still have to pay him… Sure it provides about $20Million in cap relief this year – but who are the Wizards going to use that cap room for in this year’s Free Agent market? The answer is = NO ONE.
Keep Lewis this year… pay him his $20 Million. Might as well play him as well…
NEXT year, when his salary is only guaranteed for $10 Million, the Wizards can either
1. release him and save $12 Million off their Cap number. That will give them PLENTY of cap room to sign a max Free Agent and another veteran at approx mid-level without exceeding a $60Million cap.
2. Use Lewis’ expiring/non-guaranteed contract in a trade to bring a major piece to the Wizards team.
On the other hand, if you release Blatche – you free up almost as much money on the Cap as Lewis – but you free it up in the out years (2012-2015) when the Wizards will need room to re-sign guys like JaVale McGee and John Wall.
So if the Wizards actually use the amnesty – and there’s no guarantee they will – the smart play would be to release Blatche, not Lewis…
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by Rook6980 on Sep 29, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Drop Wall
We don’t deserve him :(
Ok, realistically, I know there’s some anti-Blatche sentiment out there, but he’s actually giving more than he’s taking away on the court, even when he’s playing like he did last year, and he’s a reasonable investment. It’s not just that he can score, rebound, and when motivated defend at a reasonable level, it’s that he’s one of the few big men out there who’s able to create for others and set guys up with their passing game, which is a valuable commodity and where his real value comes from. Dray’s someone who could realistically average 5 assists per game even playing with a ball-dominant point guard like Wall so long as you surround them with guys who can shoot and cut, and that’s what really separates him in my eyes from someone like Villanueva who’s on a similar contract.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Sep 29, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It’s not just that he can score, rebound, and when motivated defend at a reasonable level, it’s that he’s one of the few big men out there who’s able to create for others and set guys up with their passing game, which is a valuable commodity and where his real value comes from.
I fully agree with you on this. He just doesn’t do it (unless its april). At 25 yrs of age and after 6 yrs in the league I think the chance that he will change is significantly smaller than the chance he won’t. Sadly, I think a change of scenery would help his chances.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think releasing Blatche
is not going to happen. Even after the next season, Blatche will have more trade value than Lewis. The thing about Blatche is that he is a very good player and he is cap friendly. He will be fairly easy to move. To me, he is an asset. Blatche is hitting his prime years and Lewis is looking back at the sunset.
I also think this could be a good season to start looking at acquiring an FA. Lets see who gets released and what they can get him for. Why wait? Cap space is only growing over the next 3 seasons. Maybe they get a quality player for those 3 seasons, before Wall, Booker, Crawford, Seraphin are FAs.
by hambonejackson on Sep 29, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait....
Lewis has a non-guaranteed contract for the 2012-13 season (only $10 Million is guaranteed)…. and can be traded to a team in dire need of salary cap relief (think about teams that might be in Hard Cap hell) – and that team can immediately cut him and save over $12 Million off their cap number – and you STILL think Blatche has more trade value than Lewis?
Wow – did I miss Andray making last year’s All-Star team or something?
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Blatches is cheap for a starting 4
and the better he plays the more he is worth it. With Lewis you are looking for some BOYD and with Blatche he can be used for a player you really want, a draft pick, or keep him. I certainly not about to let him walk away. And another way you can look at it is that I would rather have Blatche on the team next season than Lewis. Blatches foot isn’t broken now. If he plays well this season, he will be worth a lot more to the Wiz than Lewis.
by hambonejackson on Sep 29, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I could understand your logic
if Andray Blatche was scoring 17 points, grabbing 8.3 rebounds and 2.4 assists and sporting a 59% True Shooting Percentage (rather than his anemic 49% TSP)….
THEN Andray Blatche would be an above average Power Forward – capable and deserving of an above average NBA contract.
Andray Blatche is an average player – except that he takes more shots than the average Power Forward, shoots a below average percentage for a Power Forward; and is rarely engaged on the defensive end.
The reason Andray Blatche shoots a below average percentage is because he relies too much on his mid-range jump shot. His “finesse” game doesn’t allow him to draw fouls and takes him away from the basket where he can’t get easy put backs. And he’s NOT that good a jump shooter. 45% of his shots came from 10 feet out last year – and he only made 34% of those shots.
There were 30 forwards in the League last year that took 12 or more shots per game, played 20 minutes or more and had a true shooting percentage better than Andray Blatche (49.7% TSP). The only one worse was Demarcus Cousins at 48.4%
Even Michael Beasley was a more efficient scorer than Blatche last year….
This is NOT an aberration. With 6-years in the League – He has NEVER been an efficient scorer with his highest TSP in the 2009-10 season (51.9%) when he was obviously playing for a contract extension.
Average players in the League make $5.5 Million dollars per year – Andray will make $6.4 Million this year and $7.1 Next year… So how is that “cheap” ?
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Nor is it an indictment
I have seen exactly one full season of Blatche and he spent most of that season injured. As he is only 25, I wouldn’t mind to see what a 6’11" power forward who can shoot, block shots, pass, drive to the basket, grab boards can do when healthy for a full season. Blatche is invaluable. It was only towards the end of last season he learned how to shoot. Now you want to get rid of him. He finally became a 2 way player. He is about as versatile 4 as you can get. He has a lot to learn, but I will not use his versatility nor his injuries against him. He can be a point 4. He can be a post up 4. It takes time for this kind of player. How long did it take for him to be a physical player? He came in to the league skinny and now he isn’t. It would not behoove me, after all these seasons, to see what kind of player he is.
by hambonejackson on Sep 30, 2011 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It was only towards the end of last season he learned how to shoot. Now you want to get rid of him. He finally became a 2 way player. is about as versatile 4 as you can get.
He showed in it march/april 2010 as well and to be fair, he always showed he has what it takes. The problem is that never takes it to the next level, he doesn’t have te mentality to do it consistantly.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 30, 2011 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
In 2010
he had a weird looking shot he hit. In 2011 he started missing that shot and changed his stroke. Towards the end of last season he had a nice stroke that allowed him to increase his range. This is why I wrote that he finally learned how to shoot.
by hambonejackson on Sep 30, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see that 29/16 game against Cleveland?
He looked great didn’t he? Not really. Although people will point to his offensive display, including getting 13 offensive boards, few people pointed out how horrible he was on defense. He gave 0 effort on D which is supported by the fact that he only had 3 defensive rebounds! I don’t know if anyone would question his ability, I think it’s the effort and his mindset that should be questioned. If we want to pay him based off of talent alone then yes he deserves that contract, but the reality is, he didn’t play very well this year. Even though you can argue that he was hurt, you can also argue that he made bad decisions on offense, gave little effort on defense, and did not distinguish himself as a cornerstone of this franchise. I don’t see how you can justify paying this guy about $10 mil in a few years. He has a lot to prove.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Certainly.....
I can overlook a player’s poor performances if he has an injury….
Nick Young was playing GREAT all year, until he started having knee issues…
Andray broke his foot and had surgery to repair it on June 26, 2010… He was expected to miss three months…
Then in September the Wizards gave him a three-year contract extension worth more than $28 million… His performance in the final 32 games the 2009 season, when he averaged 22.1 points, 8.3 rebounds and 3.6 assists, led the Wizards to give him that extension.
On September 26th, Blatche was quoted as saying: ""I don’t think this affected me at all. It was a curse and a blessing at the same time," he said. “I never in my life worked so hard in the offseason and I’ve been in the gym every day, doing cardio work, strength work. Don’t get me wrong, I was very frustrated, but now, I see how I run and I jump, and I’m thankful.”
So according to Blatche, he was completely healed…. Ready for the season…… So, from his own words, we have to assume that his CRAPPY play was due not to injury, or lack of conditioning – but due rather to Blatche simply playing CRAPPY.
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by Rook6980 on Sep 30, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Do people never hold players responsible any more?
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by Rook6980 on Sep 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This off season
he was struggling to shoot the ball last season because of his foot. He said he had to use the regular season to get back in to shape. He had other injuries as well. He mentioned those during his call in radio whine regarding all his injuries. He mentioned his knee and that he was having it drained before games. Of course his shoulder. The thing about him is he rarely sits out injuries for more than a game. in 2010 he did not sit out a game because of his foot and his production plummeted. The he sat out a game and his production went right back up. It was the same thing last season when he sat out 12 games and came back a new player. I base him on those last 20 some games because that was when he was the healthiest he had been all season.
He even started to mesh with Wall which helped.
As far as players playing crappy, so did Nadal when he came back from injury. That didn’t make him a crappy tennis player. He’s back at no. 2 right now.
by hambonejackson on Sep 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Was his brain injured?
Because that could be the only injury that would describe the horrible shot selection that he took throughout the season.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Sep 30, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
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