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What are your takes on America's Top 10 favorite athletes? When do you think a local athlete can be on the list?

The Harris Poll recently released results of its poll regarding Americans' favorite athletes.  Two separate questions were given to adults 18 and up.  One question was for the respondent's favorite athlete (for all purposes here, I'll say men's athlete because the Top 10 was all men anyway) and one was for the respondent's favorite female athlete.    Let's get to the men first:

 

THE TOP 10 FAVORITE (MEN'S) ATHLETES IN THE US

1st - Derek Jeter

2nd - Peyton Manning

Tie for 3rd- Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan

5th - Tiger Woods

6th - Tom Brady

Tie for 7th - Albert Pujols and Hines Ward

9th - Derrick Rose

10th - Aaron Rodgers

Last year from 1st to 10th, they were Tiger Woods and Kobe Bryant (tied for 1st), Derek Jeter, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Dale Earnhardt, Jr.

I'm not surprised that I didn't see a single DC area athlete in the National Top 10, given that none of the teams in this area are doing well aside from the Washington Capitals, but seeing Alex Ovechkin in the Top 10 isn't realistically going to happen when the NHL still is the 4th most popular pro sports league among the "Big Four" sports leagues and there isn't much support for the league in the southern part of the country (look at Atlanta's reaction to the sale of the Thrashers). 

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Here are some of the trends I've noticed on the list, based on the overall play and situations around the athletes after reading the link:

1. Among age groups, I guess certain sports tend to resonate more with certain folks than others. 

Older people traditionally like golf more, and I'm not terribly surprised that Tiger Woods was the favorite athlete, even considering his troubles the last couple years.  Among the Echo Boomers, I'm not surprised that 18-34 year olds viewed Michael Jordan as their favorite athlete, as this generation enjoyed much of their childhood or youth during the Bulls' glory days. 

2. Quarterbacks who win Super Bowls are highly rated for the year the championship was won. 

Aaron Rodgers was in the Top 10 this year winning the Super Bowl with the Green Bay PackersDrew Brees was on the list last year after winning the Super Bowl with the New Orleans Saints and fell off this year.

3. America loves football and embraces the Quarterback as the leader and cornerstone of the team. 

Of the Top 10 athletes listed, four of them are NFL players.  Three of them are quarterbacks.  I know I'll get a "no crap" reference for the quarterback as leader point, but this is another way to show that.

4. It is possible that athletes playing on organized team sports get more love in these rankings. 

Tiger Woods is the only athlete who doesn't play an organized team sport.  Then again, Americans aren't doing particularly well on men's individual sports like tennis and gymnastics.

5. This ties in with point #4, but athletes in organized team sports tend to be the favorite athlete of their respective regions. 

Kobe Bryant was the favorite athlete in the west and he is a Laker; Peyton Manning was the favorite athlete in the South, and though the Colts aren't in the South, he did go to Tennessee; Derek Jeter is the favorite athlete in the East, and he's a Yankee; Derrick Rose is the favorite athlete in the Midwest, and he's a Bull.  This shows that athletes not only can be favorites among their respective fanbases, but they can be iconic figures for their regions.

6. Michael Jordan is still among our favorites, having been a Top 10 favorite male athlete since 1993. 

LeBron's defection to Miami may explain why he jumped up from 7th to 3rd.

7. "Rings mean Respect."

All of these athletes, except for Rose have won a league championship or an individual championship of some sort.  Even Rose has won an MVP this year.  Either way, it is clear that accolades have gotta be earned if an athlete is going to be a favorite one.  I know there is a perception that women may pick a favorite athlete because of how he looks, but even then, guys like Derek Jeter and Tom Brady still are franchise cornerstones because of what they do on the field first.

8. Good Boys get Props

There is something to be said for great athletes who conduct themselves the right way either on the field/court or off of it. Guys like Derek Jeter and Hines Ward certainly have become favorite athletes because they are the undisputed cornerstones of their teams, but they also keep a low profile and stay out of trouble.  I know Ward got a DUI recently, but generally speaking he still has conducted himself the right way, given his biracial background as a Korean American and also the football circumstances with Ben Roethlisberger's off the field conduct issues.  Jeter has been a consistent player for over 15 years, yet hasn't been involved in this PED mess with Major League Baseball.  

Athletes who either conduct themselves in the wrong way on or off the field/court lose respect.  LeBron James fell off the list this year, and it is likely because of "The Decision."  Tiger was the most favorite American athlete after Michael's reign from 1993-2005, but he dropped to 5th now.  Sure, his not so stellar play since the 2008 US Open is partly to blame.   However, the divorce with Elin and the tabloid stories about the women he picked up had to play into that as well.  Kobe also dropped out of the Top 10 list from 2004 to 2005, because it was perceived that he was the force that blew up the Lakers team, and he also went through the Eagle, Colorado incident. 

9. People tend to identify people of their race as their favorite athlete. 

White people as a group said Peyton Manning, a White man, as their favorite athlete, while Black people viewed Kobe Bryant, a Black man, as their favorite athlete.  I get that there are plenty of Black people whose favorite athlete is Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, and plenty of White people whose favorite athlete is Kobe or Mike.  But this was something that was worth pointing out.

10. What do the kids think?

One demographic was left out and that was kids.  As you all probably know, the movie preview for Bad Teacher showed a MJ-LeBron debate between a teenage boy who thought LeBron was a better player, and the young teacher who thought MJ was better.  Do the kids identify with Tiger or Derek Jeter like adults did in this poll?  Do they think more highly of LeBron than adults do?  It would be interesting to see how an age 13-17 demographic would have thought about it.

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THE TOP 10 FAVORITE WOMEN'S ATHLETES IN THE US

Here is the Top 10 list for women's athletes and a brief summary of what they have done (if you don't know their sports accomplishments already):

1st - Serena Williams, WTA Tennis Player, 13x Grand Slam wins as a singles player, 12x Grand Slam wins as a doubles player.

2nd - Venus Williams, WTA Tennis Player, 7x Grand Slam wins as a singles player; 12x Grand Slam wins as a doubles player.

3rd - Danica Patrick, Race Car Driver; 6 Top 10 Indy 500 finishes; Top 5 finish in the 2009 IndyCar Series Season

4th - Maria Sharapova, WTA Tennis Player, 4x Grand Slam wins as a singles player

5th - Mia Hamm, Retired soccer player, won 1999 World Cup, scored most goals in international competition out of any American player

6th - Anna Kournikova, WTA Tennis Player, 2x Grand Slam wins as a doubles player

Tie for 7th - Sue Bird, Guard for the Seattle Storm, 2x Olympic Gold Medalist, 2x WNBA Champion, and plenty of All Star Appearances to boot.

Tie for 7th - Martina Navratilova, WTA Tennis Player, 18x Grand Slam wins as a singles player; 31x Grand Slam wins as a doubles player; 10x Grand Slam wins as a mixed doubles player (basically retired)

Tie for 9th - Kerri Walsh, Pro Beach Volleyball Player, 2x Olympic Gold Medalist

Tie for 9th - Michelle Wie, LPGA Tour Golf Player, 2 wins on the Tour

Last year from 1st to 10th, the list was Serena Williams, Venus Williams, Mia Hamm, Danica Patrick, Maria Sharapova, Anna Kournikova, Misty May and Shawn Johnson (tied for 7th), Lisa Leslie, and Billie Jean King.

There are some things I see with women's athletes' rankings.  A lot of this is compared against the men:

1.  Women who are playing individual sports (or at least sports not associated with organized teams) tend to be ranked higher. 

Eight of the ten athletes play individual sports, or in the case of tennis, it's not a sport that's associated with teams.  I wouldn't call World Team Tennis a franchise for an organized team sport.  Speaking about tennis, five of the ten athletes here are tennis players by trade, including three of the top five, and four of the top six.  Perhaps this list shows that the mainstream public and men truly respect the game of women's tennis, maybe up to the point where it is equal to men's tennis which I believe it is.

2. Women on organized team sports (soccer, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, etc.) may not be given as much credit for what they do to earn "favorite status".   

I think is due in part to most Americans' negative perceptions of the WNBA and also because we don't really see much coverage of women's organized team sports as it is.  Sue Bird is the only active player on an organized team sport to make the Top 10, but oddly enough I don't think she is exactly the current face of the league either though this may say otherwise.  Note that Mia Hamm also still resonates very positively with most Americans, well after her retirement, not to mention that Mia Hamm is best known as a player for the US Soccer team, not the Washington Freedom, and while I think America likes women's soccer, for now, we like it best as a national team sport moreso than as a pro league when the national team inevitably gets broken up (I know WPS exists). 

Unlike the case with Hamm, Bird is best known for playing on the Seattle Storm, a city based pro basketball team, rather the US Basketball Team (and yes, Sue is the starting lead guard on Team USA as well).  Unlike women's soccer, in women's basketball, we do follow the teams in certain cities moreso than the national team.  Unlike men's basketball however, note that a lot of WNBA fans follow the stars based on which college they went to, and to a bigger degree than NBA fans.  This is in particular with players from the University of Connecticut which has easily had the best college basketball program over the past decade.

3. I'm a little surprised that more soccer players weren't in this Top 10 list, like Abby Wambach and Hope Solo. 

If we did this poll again today, Alex Morgan would also get a lot more love.. 

[Note: Alex is off the market fyi.  Seattle Sounders rookie midfielder Servando Carrasco is the lucky man!  Shucks]

4. I wonder how different the men's top ten list on women's athletes would look as opposed to the women's list (this wasn't specified). 

Some of the athletes may be ranked higher than otherwise because of their sex appeal rather than their athletic accomplishments.  Kournikova is the poster child of a favorite women's athlete because of looks rather than skills as her accomplishments just aren't up to par with most of the other women on this list and I find it laughable.  You can make smaller cases for Danica, Sharapova, Walsh, and Bird.   So in essence, the "Rings mean Respect" point doesn't apply as well with women, though I think it's mostly because we're not as aware of what goes on in women's sports generally, as women's organized team sports tend to have niche fanbases rather than widespread ones like men's organized team sports.

5. A number of retired athletes or athletes who haven't been actively in the spotlight in a particular year still tend to be viewed very positively.  And no woman has had an athletic impact like Mike.

Examples here are like Hamm and Navratilova (how did she get back in the Top 10?).  Last year, Billie Jean King and Lisa Leslie were on the list.   Leslie is still arguably the face of the WNBA after her retirement in 2008 and no other player has hit the top 10 until Bird got in this year.  And Kournikova.... Really?  Are you kidding me? 

Last year among active athletes, Shawn Johnson, the Olympic gold medal winning gymnast was a Top 10 favorite, and she didn't have any notable athletic accomplishments that I'm aware of at least.

6. Like the men's athletes, people tended to identify with women of their race as their favorite athlete. 

White people viewed Danica Patrick as their #1 favorite; Black people viewed Serena Williams as theirs.  Hispanics threw a curveball here, with Danica Patrick and Sue Bird tied as the #1 favorite athlete.  I thought Diana Taurasi could be a better fit, and she's Hispanic, but oh well.

7. Again, because only adults were surveyed, it's possible that boys and girls may think a bit differently about their favorite female athlete. 

For example,  if the top ten female athletes for boys 13-17 and girls 13-17 had considerably more WNBA players, it would show that the kids likely have a more positive perception of women's organized team sports than adults do.  Also if this were true, I have to note that the WNBA has been in their lives for pretty much their entire lives, while for adults, we overall see the WNBA as a league that's been thrown on our plate against our will.  This is like the LeBron analogy I put out with the men's athletes where children may not agree with adults on these kind of issues.

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Coming out of this, I have some questions I leave you with, on how America's Top 10 favorite athletes, at least for the future, affects our city.  Who are your favorite athletes for men and women separately right now?  Who do you think would be our area's favorite athletes?  Yes, you can include retired players.  Though it seems bleak right now, are there any athletes that play on our local teams and could be in a National Top 10 favorite athlete in the near future, like the Caps' Alex Ovechkin, Washington Nationals pitcher Stephen Strasburg and prospect Bryce Harper?  Could Brian Orakpo's sack numbers get a defensive beast in there?  And of course is it too early to say that John Wall may find himself as a Top 10 favorite athlete too?  Right now, our overall sports landscape looks bleak as a city, but the future certainly looks bright!

Poll
When will John Wall be a Top 10 Favorite Athlete in the United States?
This upcoming season (2011-2012)
0 votes
Within three years
13 votes
Within five years
9 votes
Maybe in ten years
2 votes
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
7 votes

31 votes | Poll has closed

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Interesting stuff

A few random thoughts:
1-I find it odd Jordan ranks, seeing as how he hasn’t been an athlete in how long? Same for Hamm/Navratilova, though I suppose there are fewer “name” female athletes and folks were voting for whoever they could think of.
2-A dollar says Hines Ward made it only because of his TV dancing gig. Not that he isn’t skilled etc., but weekly national exposure to folks unfamiliar with his football thing didn’t hurt.
3-Surprised Eldrick made the list at all.

Roadhouse!

by GoForthAndDie on Jul 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree that Hines likely got in because of Dancing with the Stars, but it doesn't hurt that he is a respected player off the fiel as well.

Jordan never goes away given the media attention he has nearly 10 years after his retirement. As with women athletes, generally speaking, the biggest names are all in tennis, golf has good names too but somehow no one got in besides Wie, and the gymnasts and figure skaters come maybe once every four years or so when the Olympics go around. Still wondering how Shawn Johnson still got in last year though.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find it hard to see

because one of the Williams sisters was the favorite female athlete in EVERY age group.

by thewiz06 on Jul 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you think it's mostly men voting?

and don’t you think most men vote, in part, on which woman they want to bang? White guys prefer Danica…this doesn’t shock me.

by Jim America on Jul 19, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

People tend to be attracted to folks of their race. I agree.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was mostly men voting, but this is a respected organization doing a survey, so I would think that half of the respondents should be female.

That said, there wasn’t much deviation between the men and women in terms of favorite female athlete.

Didn’t write it this in the piece, but all of the athletes, except maybe Navratilova because she’s before my time, are among the prettiest, if not the prettiest ladies in their leagues.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Danica is a joke compared to Serena in terms of accomplishment.

Serena is one of the best ever, male or female. She’s displayed more true Champion qualities than the vast majority of male athletes, it’s no stretch to compare her to MJ. I would have liked to think men see past look preferences in that scenario.

Also given that there are multitudes of white female tennis players more attractive than Danica….I’d think if it was purely looks you’d see more tennis players in general on the list.

by DCrez on Jul 19, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well

Kournikova made the list. I rest my case.

by Jim America on Jul 19, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The men and women could have had deviating lists.

Men could have said:

1. Serena
2. Kournikova
3. Danica
4. Venus
5. Sue Bird
6. Navratilova
7. Sharapova
8. Hamm
9. Walsh
10. Misty May-Treanor (the bikinis are a turn on for men… never cared much for her )

And the ladies could have said
1. Serena
2. Venus
3. Hamm
4. Sharapova
5. Danica
6. Diana Taurasi (not in the top 10)
7. Michelle Wie
8. Navratilova
9. Abby Wambach (not in the top 10)
10. Sue Bird

This wasn’t the actual top 10 among men and women, but depending on numbers of each of the respondents, it could be something like this.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Thinking about the female sports stars you like, which ones are your favorites?"

Anna will be on that list forever as will Serena….name recognition is the key factor in such an open ended question. There arent THAT many well-known female athletes to begin with, those who do gain notoriety likely stay in the top10 for years and years i would guess

by DCrez on Jul 19, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're guilty of picking an athlete just because of her looks!

okay, if I had to answer the question, and had to pick just one, it’s Serena Williams because of her speed, power, and dominance on the court. I like Venus too, but Serena just edges her out because she has the better resume

If I was told favorite soccer player, it is Mia, and that’s because she’s the MJ of women’s soccer
for basketball, it’s Sue Bird. Can’t really put Danica in there because I don’t really see car racing as an athletic event.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point is it's tough for most people to name 10 female athletes

without naming any past players….Kournikova was one of the world’s most famous athletes for a minute there, her name will probably remain in the mix for awhile especially since I think she’s going to be the trainer on Biggest Losers now

by DCrez on Jul 19, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

but the survey likely wanted just one person. I don’t know how they would have formulated my answer.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I think Danica’s hot myself, but she isn’t hot just because of her looks. It’s also the fact that she is in a male dominated sport and doing well in it. There’s something to be gained there, and I think a lot of guys are turned on by women who can do male dominated things well. Also if there aren’t many hot women in a certain profession or field, the better than average looking women start to look even better.

The WNBA has had plenty of problems with having an attractive star (to the male eye) and they were salivating over Sue Bird back in 2002 when she got drafted #1, and she has the “girl next door look.” Unlike Danica however, she chose not to put herself on Maxim or FHM, and her profile has dropped somewhat from it, though she is easily one of the Top 5 players in the WNBA which is still looking for “that one star” who can capture men like magnets.

And to the women who were surveyed, I just can’t see enough of them to put Kournikova as a favorite athlete! WTF?

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

DCrez, I completely agree with you that Serena is a champion

and one of the best tennis players of the past decade, and I think she has plenty left in the tank.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

her level of grit and clutchness never ceases to amaze me

i’m not sure how much she has left though, 29 is bordering on ancient in the tennis world

by DCrez on Jul 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If she can keep herself in great condition (she has)

Serena could continue to hold her own as a singles player at least and perhaps win three or four more grand slam titles.

Same can be said for Venus, though I don’t think she will win more than maybe two grand slams, and that’s only because Serena has proven to be the better player.

Navratilova has been able to continue to play into her 40’s and bordering on 50, though this is as a mixed doubles player. The Williams sisters could still be a deadly team together as well as with men’s tennis players on mixed doubles teams. Both sisters have won 2 grand slams each.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Strasburg or Harper would make it before John Wall.

Or the two are more likely to make the list. Those two just seem more in the national spotlight, especially since baseball has fewer great American years now than years before.

"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely

by PhenomenalSwag on Jul 18, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

As for a local guy making the list

Wall and Strasburg probably have the best chances, unless the Caps win the Cup, then maybe Ovechkin gets some love. Then again, he plays hockey. so…

Roadhouse!

by GoForthAndDie on Jul 19, 2011 3:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to see Ovie get real close or sneak in,

but the only way hockey gets into the spotlight more is if we have no NBA season, or if a team can win consecutive Stanley Cups in the post lockout era.

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you say John makes the list in 3 or 5 years,

that is the same to me as saying John is MVP in 3 or 5 years. The only basketball players on that list are Kobe, MJ, the Queen, and this years MVP, Rose. John Wall will never pass Kobe, MJ, or the Queen in terms of popularity. Clearly it is more than just being a great bball player (Durant), and more than just being entertaining to watch (Griffin).

by HIBACHI GOLD on Jul 19, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

The Queen?

To me he’s a serf.

I doubt Wall will be the #1 guy in the NBA, but that’s considering the climate today, right now. With hard work and some luck, you never know! Rose has exceeded some expectations too!

Forgive me, but the Monumental drink tastes really sweet! I need another cup please Ted!

by thewiz06 on Jul 19, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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