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NBA Draft 2011: Draft Express Says Jan Vesely Is Likely The Guy For Wizards

If you're not a Jan Vesely fan, you won't like reading this from Jonathan Givony of Draft Express:

Vesely appears to have received assurances from the Wizards that he's indeed the pick, according to reports from NBA teams who have spoken with his camp.

So yeah, there's that.  Unless the Wizards trade up for Enes Kanter, the available options are pretty slim.  It's pretty much Vesely, wait a year on Jonas Valanciunas (if he isn't taken by Cleveland), go with Kawhi Leonard or do what I'd do and take the Bismack Biyombo plunge.

More links below the jump:

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-Michael Lee, in a blog post that is worth reading, says the Wizards have Jonas Valanciunas over Vesely on their board.  Hmm...

I've heard that the Wizards have Valanciunas rated slightly ahead of Vesely, since the Lithuanian big man is two years younger and has a little more upside and room for improvement. In my story for the paper, a person with knowlege of the Wizards' thinking told me that Valanciunas "might be worth the wait" if his buyout agreement forces him to stay in Lithuania for another year.

-Mike Wise argues for Jan Vesely, essentially saying he has the "it" factor.  I'm more open to Vesely than most, but this particular argument seemed kind of weak to me.

-My piece on SB Nation D.C. on Kanter.  Also, here's my piece on Derrick Williams for SBNation.com.

-Sam Amick says the Wizards are still trying to move up for Kanter:

The Wizards have been eager to add the 21-year-old Czech for quite some time now, and they get their shot here. Vesely's athleticism, speed and offensive versatility would fit in nicely with the group headed by point guard John Wall. That said, sources told me the Wizards are offering the No. 6 and No. 18 picks for a chance to get into the top three and grab Kanter.

-Bill Simmons says he would trade JaVale McGee and No. 6 for Derrick Williams and Anthony Randolph.

TRADE NO. 2: Washington trades Javale McGee (25 cents) and the no. 6 pick (30 cents) to Minnesota for its no. 2 pick (50 cents) and Anthony Randolph (dime). Final tally: Washington (60 cents); Minnesota (55 cents).

I guess this one depends on your feelings for McGee: Washington believes he's a 50-cent piece and reportedly turned down a variation of this deal; I think he's a quarter and would rather build around John Wall and Derrick Williams than John Wall, Javale McGee, and the Turkish Guy (or the Lithuanian Guy, or the Congolese Guy). Then again, I'm higher on Williams than most: he's a "modern" power forward, a scorer with an inside/outside game who only hurts you defensively on those rare nights when you're facing a low-post beast like Zach Randolph. We also know he doesn't shy away from big moments, as evidenced by his memorable March Madness run (that should count for something, right?). What am I getting with McGee other than someone who lands on SportsCenter's Top 10 Plays twice a week? Yeah, he can block shots, but so what? My buddy House (a huge Wizards fan) says of McGee, "He's the single most fundamentally unsound player I've ever had the displeasure of watching on a consistent basis. He's lost three out of every four plays on defense. His basketball IQ is the same as my son's basketball IQ, and my son doesn't turn one until next month." Sounds like the perfect fit with Michael Beasley! Too bad we'll never know because Washington overvalues McGee.

-Bismack Biyombo may have a bad back, which may be one reason the Wizards have no interest in him.

-Finally, here's the collaborative SB Nation mock draft, in which I picked Biyombo and Klay Thompson. I strongly doubt it actually turns out that way.

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What conceivable reason could there be to "give assurances" to a player before the draft?

I can see reasons to leak that to DraftExpress, I just don’t see why any team would actually do that. Why limit your options? Grunfeld himself has stated that the draft usually presents opportunities at the last minute. This news just seems like more smoke.

by satchmore on Jun 23, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Kind of like prematurely trading the 5th pick

or guaranteeing a draftee he wont go to the DLeague before you’ve seen him play.

by DCrez on Jun 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

One of my favorite days of the year

Interesting comment from Lee:
“I would be shocked to see either J.V. boy (my nickname for the European duo with the same initials) slide past the Wizards if one of them is on the board — and that’s even if Kanter is still available. That’s one the reasons why I don’t think the Wizards are willing to sacrifice any valuable assets in order to move up to take Kanter.”

Personally, I would be happy with Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Tristan Thompson at 6, so nothing will ruin my night (unless Ernie gets a case of the stupids).

by disgrunted on Jun 23, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

There's been rumors that Kanter is second on the Wizards draft board...

Perhaps the Wizards board looks something like this:

Williams
Kanter
Vesely
Valanciunas

That’s how MY draft board would look…. if I were them.

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jun 23, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on if you like current production in a high European League

Or
potential

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jun 23, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

beat me to it

Valanciunas is the guy I’d pick at 6 if both are there. Still a a chance Toronto takes Vesely.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 23, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea....

but I just don’t like drafting guys based solely on upside…. Vesely is the more athletic player. Is the more productive player in a higher League in Europe.

Neither one has much basketball skill… But since Valanciunas is an inch taller and 2 years younger, he has more upside….

and like I said, I don’t like drafting on upside. (Except in the case of Enes Kanter)…

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jun 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey........there's ALWAYS an exception.

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jun 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

PLUS

Valanciunas may have moved down on the Wizards draft board because of his buy-out situation….

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jun 23, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw somewhere last night

that Valanciunas’ agent is still working on his buyout, and there’s a chance he can play in the NBA next season.

by iNFaMOUS SwaGG on Jun 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know Inever understood that.

You draft on talent, potential, body, height, etc. You don’t not draft a player rated higher than another player because he won’t come over and suck balls with you next year…

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah its like

we’d rather take 60 cents this season and for 4 after that instead of waiting a year to get our hands on 85 cents for 5 years. So you’re up 60 cents in year one but wind up down double that long term.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 23, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drafting Kanter is not drafting upside IMO

Its drafting immediate toughness, defense, and rebounding, coupled with future offensive potential.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t it the opposite? I thought the scouts were saying he could be weak on D and doesn’t rebound but his jumper and post moves are there…

by addc on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not what I've read

And not what I saw in the little bit of film he has out. He’s regarded as a high motor bruiser of a defender/rebounder (with a potentially great post game and three point range to go with that playing style) who will have trouble guarding the quicker PFs.

To me, that’s not the same as saying he’s a weak defender, and on the flip side, the quicker PFs can’t guard him either.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vesely is also the older player who isn't all that more refined

He has NBA height, hops and good speed, but not many other NBA skills. Word is we will project him into the 4 spot. Maybe because he can’t spread the floor, but that would be a serious rebounding issue.

David Blatt was on NBATV last night and sealed it for me. He loves Valanciunas because he plays with an edge, likes to rebound, defend, has a good motor, smart kid and his clincher was Valanciunas’ hands. He said people don’t pay enough attention to that but it jumps out watching Jonas.

I’ll take a legit big with those qualities, who just turned 19 in early May. I don’t think a one-year buy out changes anything, not with the possibility of a shortened season. But it has to be done by draft night because a 2+ year wait is too much.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it's true that EG values Vesely higher than Kanter

It means his plan is to bring in a skinny, unskilled, tall guy to try and push Dray rather than a 260pound rebounding bruiser. That’s horrendous IMO, Vesely is exactly the type of player that can’t push Dray at all.

by DCrez on Jun 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Booker is sufficient to push dray.

If true, it sounds like the EG of circa 2003 who would squirt in his pants for athletic beanpoles, and wouldn’t hesitate to fill his roster with them, hoping one or more of them panned out. But that was also the era in which he was perpetually picking in the 15-20 region. You can’t do that with this team. And you can’t do that in this draft from the #6 slot.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

And Vesely is a 15-20 kind of pick.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 23, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love Book but he cant push Dray either imho

in practice Booker looks like he’s supposed to be with the guards rather than the Bigs….Dray towers over him and would have to truly shit himself to end behind Book on the chart.

But picking Vesely to play PF……Dray is a made man, that’s for sure

by DCrez on Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't play bball from your head to your toes.

He’s got the tools to guard the position. To fight for rebounds, etc. He’s an athletic specimen. The only area where he can’t push Dray is offensively.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

And that's a legit concern.

But we all saw Booker put up 20 garbage points without breaking a sweat. So its not like he’s a complete zero. He just can’t create shots as well as Dray.

But on the flip side, he’s the better defender and the better rebounder. Just by virtue of his athleticism, motor and tenacity.

He’s pushing dray right now.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

He'll hold SF down

Until the Wiz draft a real SF next year and relegate Vesely to the Yi role

by Rooper on Jun 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and that's exactly right

Ernie is picking a 15-20 guy like he was always stuck with but at 6th!

by DCrez on Jun 23, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

And that's exactly why the first thing that popped into my mind was smokescreen.

Otoh, because of all the players that dropped out of this draft, a 6 is essentially a 15

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I really don't want the Wiz to pick Jonas

I don’t want to spend a year waiting for an unathletic center

by DaGribb on Jun 23, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

If no Kanter....

…then Leonsis needs to revisit his strategy of drafting the Wiz into contention. As an alternative, I would recommend going with trades and free agents. For example, Millsap might make sense for the Wiz at the 4. After pinning down the 4 with a big body, they could focus on getting a young stud who can shoot at the 3.

by Izman on Jun 23, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Although I disagree with that being the only positive alternative, it is actually a great scenario for both teams.

I think the Jazz would love to trade for our pick. Draft Knight and Kanter, both teammates and friends, and start the rebuilding process with them and Favors. I think that would be perfect for then Jazz. Millsap for us would also be a good pick-up and he would contribute right away. Our immediate progress would entice free agents to want to sign with us and further help us compete in the playoffs. Doubt it will happen since I’ve never heard anything about this, but not dull to think about.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Jun 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching Vesely and Biz videos

One guy runs around the perimeter waiting for an opening to try and finish/dunk and the other stands in the middle of the paint trying to grab every rebound and block every shot. Neither player has an nba skillset and both are projects.

The one chosen tells you everything you need to know about your GM!

by DCrez on Jun 23, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Would be true

if Biz wasn’t intent on NOT coming here.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

At this point if we can't move up, I just want to take someone who will be solid

I don’t mind reaching for someone like one of the Morris twins, Singleton, Tristan Thompson. I just want a guy who I know will be a contributor. Vesely just doesn’t do it for me.

by jeffco01 on Jun 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Kahn take note

This is the definition of a smokescreen.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 9:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Think about it.

What this screams is ‘we are going to keep our picks, and to prove it, we’ll tell the world who we are picking’.

That’s so not EGs style that Kahn may be the only GM/PBO that would fall for it. EG didn’t even tell Wall he was gonna pick him. Somebody is gonna fleece Kahn this offseason. It might very well be us…

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

what it also screams is Ernie would have drafted Perry Jones if he could have

but he went back to school, so he’s taking the next best thing. Which is unfortunately a 6’11" SF with none of Jones’ advanced skills

by DCrez on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a possibility that I can't dismiss, I'll give you that.

But the fact remains that EG has NEVER, NOT ONCE tipped his hand before the draft. And this is the most important draft he’s ever conducted, so why would he do that now?

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jones...

was less impressive, in a weaker league. None of his skills can be considered advanced past ballhandling for his size..,

by Jeremiah Hewitt on Jun 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoke screens

A ploy to get one of Vesely’s desperate suitors to step up, like the, uh …, the …, uh ……………… the ….

by ryasch on Jun 23, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Not quite.

It’s a ployto get Minny, Utah, and/or Cleveland to lower their price.

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ah... the old Vesely ploy.... Very good.

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Jun 23, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Quite simply, its:

we are comfortable where we are, Minny/Utah/Cleveland. Are you?

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so

This kind of talk makes me nervous.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would and so would the whole WORLD!!!

I’m sorry, this news is pissing me off

"My logic fails all the time...especially when talking to females" Rook6980

"I'll be lounging on the couch, just chillin in my snuggie, klick to MTV so they can teach my how to dougie" (Buno Mars, The lazy song)

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jun 23, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wishful thinking guys

Ernie is who was think he is.

by Unselds on Jun 23, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Final Chad Ford Mock has the Wizards taking...

Kawhi Leonard.

Is it just me or would you rather have Bismack at that spot?

by addc on Jun 23, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

?

I’m looking at it now and it has Vesely at 6 and Alex Burks at 18 over Marshon and Jordan Williams at 34 over Honeycutt.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leonard please!!!

Bismack might be good, or he could play 237 minutes in his career.
Hasheem Thabeet had a higher floor. I’d roll the dice on him at 18, but I wouldn’t be super excited about it.

by steadyhand on Jun 23, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ain't nothing been decided...yet

The brinkmanship now. The horse-swapping at 7:00.

by BobbyD1978 on Jun 23, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

"You Play.

To Win. The Game. You don’t just play to just play."

by jones-y on Jun 23, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know what, screw it, i just did a 180

VESELY NATION!! Alley Oop possibilities with Wall, McGee, and Vesely on the break are endless. Haha, I’m just going to trust Ernie. I must say, I do like the fire it looks like Vesely plays with, and I would really take pleasure in watching Vesely dunk on Blatche in preseason scrimmages.

by jeffco01 on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Well if we actually pick him

I’ll spend some time trying to sell myself on him.
Right now I hate him for the Wizards. Do we really need two McGees?

by steadyhand on Jun 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The question is, do we really need a homeless man's McGee?

"My logic fails all the time...especially when talking to females" Rook6980

"I'll be lounging on the couch, just chillin in my snuggie, klick to MTV so they can teach my how to dougie" (Buno Mars, The lazy song)

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ugh

I highly doubt Vesely will be a good NBA player. He shouldn’t even sniff the top 10. Hopefully this is just misinformation….

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

C'mon. Tristan Thompson actually has a few NBA ready skills ...

But Vesely doesn’t have one elite level skill that I can see. Unfortunately, athletic prospects with no real idea how to play the game are Ernie’s go to move. Again, ugh.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 23, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does RFD

have Budvar or or Pilsner Urquell on tap yet? They’ll need to if Vesely comes to town.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 23, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Someone talk me off the ledge

This is all gamesmanship – right?

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 23, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

If you mean: is he predictable?

Then yes. Plus, this news does not seem to have originated from EG. I would bet dollars to donuts EG likes Vesely’s hops and will refuse to consider anyone else at 6 other than Kanter and Valaciunus.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The issue is

we really don’t know how good Vesley would be at the 4.

He sure would have very good length and athleticism/motor at that position.

That is motor would be a positive over Dray right now!

by Wyler98 on Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

If this is the case I prefer to trade down.

The Bobcats are openly shopping their #9 and #19 picks to try and get Kawhi Leonard. We could then get Singleton/ either Thompson at #9 and Nikola Vucevic or Marshon Brooks at #19.

TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol

by Krobify on Jun 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Well if Vesley compares

to Kirilenko I am all for the pick.

 Wasn’t Kirilenko rail thin with any standout offensive skills when he cam into the league? But he had a good motor with length and athleticism. Isn’t Vesley considered longer with more athleticism?

I really don’t see why people are so down on him and are all over Kanter’s nuts? Kanter hasn’t done anything but run his mouth!!

by Wyler98 on Jun 23, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I mean

“without any standout offensive skills when he came into the league”.

by Wyler98 on Jun 23, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s assume Vesely pans out to his full potential. What does he play like and how does that fit on our team?

by 8vechkin on Jun 23, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Almost the same way Jamison played for us.

Although, if he reaches his full potential, he will be much better on defense and will able to guard 4/5 positions on the floor.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Jun 23, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Vesely help the team culture or complement another Wizards starter? That’s one of the big differences to me between Kanter and the JVs

by Emmet O'Neal on Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec’d for writing complement instead of compliment.

by steadyhand on Jun 23, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be on the record saying that I think Vesely will be a good player.

Well worth the #6 pick, especially in this draft. After Williams, he is my top choice, Kanter not far behind though.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Jun 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get all the negativity here about Jan Vesely

Since we have a few hours to go until the draft, if you have time to kill then I suggest you read the full DX profile on Vesely and start from the very bottom of the page and read it up in chronological order:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jan-Vesely-1402/

There is a lot to like here with him. He has skills but none of them are very refined. You can work with that and get better around the board. He plays in a very competitive league with and against grown men…much more competitive setting and atmosphere than in the NCAA. The experiences that he’s gained in the past few years would serve him very well.

by formula0 on Jun 23, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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