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ESPN980's Wizards beat reporter, Jay Glassie, with an interesting blog post with proposed role models for various Wizards players.

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I strongly disagree with Young, Blatche, and Crawford ideas

Screw rational basketball analysis. I <3 Jordan Crawford.

Stress fractures are inevitable when you kick as much ass as Trevor Booker does.

by returnofswagger on Apr 2, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s someone the “talent” at ESPN980 should occasionally emulate:

a journalist

by disgrunted on Apr 2, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Sticks and Stones disgrunted

Sticks and Stones. :)

Nick Young = Manu Ginobili
Ehhh……Nick god love him, but he is not as good on the defensive end nor will he ever be as good as Manu Ginobili, at least in my opinion.

John Wall = Walt "Clyde" Frazier
I wish he used a current player for John Wall to emulate, like say Derrick Rose, only because I am not old enough to have seen Walt Frazier play.

by bassguy4 on Apr 2, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind comparisons to former players

since they could have had unique parts to their games which could be useful as a reference for something today’s players (not necessarily Wall or anyone else) to follow.

by thewiz06 on Apr 2, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I pretty much disagree with all of them

Wall should look directly at Derrick Rose, they had similar strengths and weaknesses upon entering the league.

by FearTheDeer on Apr 2, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree with Blatche, Booker, and Wall.

Trevor Booker needs to be like…. Trevor Booker. Just get a good outside shot and he’ll be sick!

Blatche needs to look at KG (big surprise) so he can continue to develop his mid range shot but also be able to go down low when he needs to, and KG has good court vision for his position.

John Wall shouldn’t be looking at just one player per se. Defensively, Wall should look up to Gary Payton. He was a great thief which a good defensive guard should have but he was one of the best on the ball defenders in the 1990’s who doesn’t back down to anyone. Chauncey Billups is another guy to look at defensively.

Offensively, especially as our team improves to a perennial contender, we will ideally have other scorers/shooters around John to dish the ball to, but he still must become an effective shooter himself so defenses must pick their poison. While we all want Wall to be a good jump shooter, the pull up jumper has gotta get into his arsenal of moves so he can stop in the middle of a drive and then shoot the ball. I can’t think of an NBA PG right now while watching the Final Four at the same time as typing this, but probably WNBA point guard Sue Bird is a good example for John Wall to follow on offense, since Bird has a pull up J along with her court awareness (when to pass, when to shoot) and she is one of the better shooters in the league, all things that Wall has the potential of getting if he doesn’t have it already. I’m not comparing WNBA v. NBA play but there are things Bird can do in WNBA games that Wall can’t do or doesn’t have the confidence of doing right now in the NBA, and WHEN he gets them (offense and defense), he’d be the scariest point guard in the NBA hands down, for a very long time.

Example of Bird’s shots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo9LwlkWnrA

by thewiz06 on Apr 2, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking about John Wall and imitations

Yahoo Sports’ front page for college hoops shows Kemba flexing like he’s doing the John Wall dance.

Did he really flex to the left and throw some money out his hands?

by thewiz06 on Apr 2, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad, but...

I think he sells Jordan Crawford short. After watching Crawford man the point last game,
I feel he’s a very effective player at the point. Almost as effective as Wall in that game. While I feel Wall is very much superior at the point, the fact that I feel I can compare the two speaks volumes about Crawford’s ability. Thing is, I’ve also seen Crawford play games that make me feel he’s better than Nick Young at the off guard! And I really, really
like Nick Young’s game. And Nick has that prototypical size. After a minute, I wonder if Crawford could wind up being like a really souped-up version of Antonio Daniels….a player who got a lot of minutes in Washington, without really starting. A potent 3 guard
rotatation. Crawford’s got more upside than Lou Williams.

by Herb Harris on Apr 3, 2011 3:10 AM EDT reply actions  

The Antonio Daniels point is an interesting one...

AD was (and still probably is at 35 and down in the D-League) a fierce defender who gave 100% at all times. Crawford has far greater offensive gifts than AD already.

Most of the other stuff we have heard before (Blatche-Odom, McGee-Chandler).

I like the Wall – Frazier and Wall – Payton discussions. Not a bad pair of targets for JW to aim at…

by khrabb on Apr 3, 2011 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

AD is still in the D League

I thought he’d get at least one 10 day by now but it looks like NBA teams are more concerned with getting youth rather than savvy vet experience with D League call ups…

by thewiz06 on Apr 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

disagree with the entire thing

Javale is already more skilled offensively than Chandler and blocks more shots right now he should strive to be way better than he is. Javale shouldn’t limit himself to being just a defensive stopper he has offensive tools.

Crawford to me is almost in a less athletic Dwade mode a quasi combo guard who can penetrate pass and score.

Wall doesn’t remind me of anyone really. Def not Walt Frazier who I saw play he’s way faster and athletic doesn;t really have Clyde defensive prowess and plays more in the fast break plus more of a penetrator. I think if Wall puts the work in and thats a very very huge if but if he does physically and with his jumper he could be a future MVP of the league a better D Rose.

I sorta wish Blatche emulated Lamar odom an unselfish versatile player but instead he thinks he’s a low budget bad shooting KG.

Nick Young has no idea how to follow a Manu mold of play. That would require passing some rebounding defense and clutchness.

by jazzy1 on Apr 3, 2011 4:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Blatche = Danny Manning

I’ve always thought Blatche’s body and game reminded me most of Danny Manning.

by edubz on Apr 3, 2011 7:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I can see that

And I’m surprised nobody’s thought of it before. Good call.

by imperialme on Apr 3, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Indeed...

People tend to forget Danny because of the injury and the Clippers…

by khrabb on Apr 3, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jordan Crawford and a "Don't Emulate" (Bullets History)

I’m gonna reach back in Bullets history for a midseason trade guy with a similar game/story as Crawford. The Bullets were on their way to a mediocre 39-43 record and had made the fatal mistake of drafting Kenny Green over Karl Malone. Guess they figured it out quick because around New Year’s, they traded him to Philadelphia for the Sixers disappointing first round pick from the previous year. This guy had a pretty big name, played on the great 1984 Olympic team, but had not blossomed. Like Crawford, he was a tweener combo guard with speed and an erratic shot. Shortly after arriving, he went on a tear in which he posted career scoring highs in 3 straight games culminating with a 30 point effort against a good New Jersey Nets team. He was fast and exciting. Seemed to be easy for him to get to the hoop. Very exciting. We thought we had a steal.
Unfortunately, the weak parts of his game caught up to him. He ended the season as a bench player with a 9 point average. The next year he started slowly and the Bullets gave up on him, trading him to New Jersey for Eddie Jordan’s top assistant, Mike O’Koren (who hardly played for us).
The player was Leon Wood. You still hear Steve Buckhantz call his name occasionally as he’s been working for a long time as an NBA referee.
Every time he refs a Wizards game, I remember the great 2 weeks he had for us way back then. Hoping that Crawford has a better Washington career.

by hotplate on Apr 3, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Not Bad

Wall emulating Walt ‘Clyde’ Frazier is a very good relationship. Walt was Derrick Rose 40 years ago. Could get to anywhere on the court he wanted, score when he wanted, and had a better jumper and an absolute elite defender. Played within a great team concept and could get takeover whenever his team needed him too. I always thought Mcgee = Chandler, at least defensively, was the perfect analogy. The interesting thing for me is Crawford. I see another great Bullets great with the herky, jerky style, the spin moves, scorers mentality, and some of the passsing ability, Earl ‘The Pearl’ Monroe. By no means am I saying that he will be as great as The Pearl, but it is what his style of play reminds me of. And yes I am an OLD dude, with an affinity for older plaers.

by fatpoppafunk on Apr 3, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Oldies and newbies

Frazier had quick hands for steals, but wasn’t particularly fast. Wall is insanely fast. More like Dean Meminger of the Frazier days. I guess the point the writer was trying to make was that Wall should get stronger (like Frazier) and get more defensive minded (like Frazier).

On McGee, I wouldn’t put him in a box. For example, he should be much, much better than Chandler ever was. McGee has unique capabilities. The Wizards need somebody who can figure out how to best develop and utilize them (i.e., an open-minded and creative minded coach).

by Izman on Apr 3, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dean the Dream lacked an NBA body though...

He was way small, a wonderful college player who barely made a dent in the NBA.

by khrabb on Apr 3, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ralph Sampson would be a good mentor for him

Jmac always reminded me a little bit of him

by pantslessyoda1 on Apr 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Worst Article Ever

all of the comparison were terrible. no need to comment any further

by junn99 on Apr 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Quite frankly, JC has a better chance

Of emulating Ginobli than NY. The same kind of offbeat moves, ball handling; and the ability to spell either guard while coming off the bench but getting as many or more minutes. They aren’t the same, but Crawford has a more similar game than NYs on the offensive side.

Nick just needs to put Reggie Miller and Rip Hamilton tape on a loop this summer and figure out how they moved and set their man up off screens with a great point guard at the helm. He could also figure out what Miller did to draw fouls on contact (man Reggie was good at that and refs just seem to ignore contact on NY half the time).

by DavidDunn on Apr 3, 2011 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Good call

He's "delightfully cranky"

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Apr 3, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very reassuring how many people think this is bunk

I logged on in order to rail on this, and you all beat me to it. Crawford’s ceiling is 10x Lou Williams (and I like Williams and saw him play in HS in Atlanta). But come on. Talk about selling short. Same with Chandler-McGee. If McGee ends up equal to Chandler, it would be a failure (remember it took Chandler about 6 years to get decent himself). The rest are just inappropriate; he’s simply naming people who play the same position.

But also, what’s this about Blatche staring down Cleveland? The guy says that Blatche’s “staring down the bench of a 15 win team that was one of the most embarrassing displays of acting like a professional that I’ve ever seen.” 1. That’s really poorly written; 2. I watched half the game online, read up on the game on 4-5 different websites and read most of the comments here about the game — and never heard a word about any “stare down.” And somehow it’s one of the most embarassing things he’s ever seen (Also, embarassing for whom? Blatche or the author?).

I’m sure Dray did talk some smack: the best game of his life and he got his stats in a win and it came when many were doubting him a lot. Let him have fun where he can. It’s not like he tried to bully a bunch of 4th grade girls. Cleveland is slightly worse than DC this year; it’s not exactly David and Golliath. The author’s comment was Cowherd-esque: starting s*** just for the sake of starting s*** even when the s*** makes no sense, is unnecessary, and leaves the author looking like a piece of s***.

by Kenny Sky Walker on Apr 3, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And truthfully

as much crap as the Wizards had to take from the Cleveland players over the past 4 or 5 years… I don’t have one shred of sympathy now….

Like my wife always says: “What goes around, comes around”……

He's "delightfully cranky"

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Apr 3, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

All right...something from left field

7DayDray needs to watch film/emulate, Akeem ‘The Dream’ Olajuwon

by Meraj Chowdhury on Apr 3, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish. We could have the twin towers

with Dray emulating Olajuwon and McGee emulating Ralph Sampson. Those were the original twin towers.

by PhenomenalSwag on Apr 3, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason I say Hakeem

is because Dray already tries to do similar types of moves in the post. Hakeem was obviously quicker and more effective but watching some old The Dream tapes might help Dray polish them.

by Meraj Chowdhury on Apr 3, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a game today?

He's "delightfully cranky"

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Apr 3, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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