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Realistic Wizard Rebuilding Ideas?



i have a number of ideas that could be realistic to the wizards in the next couple of years, its part OKC-Presti, part luck

the wiz need veterens that is a hardworker, overachiever, and brings in total effort every night to be a good role model for the young players.  we need a Nick Collison/Chris Andersen type player.  One that fits the category is Chuck Hayes.  He is one of the top backups bigs in the NBA.  The Wiz need a guy that can play both PF and Center.  The Wiz could give him a Nick Collison type deal, 5 y 23 million. 

2011-2012           10 m

2012-2013           3.25 m

2013-2014           3.25 m

2014-2015           3.25 m

2015-2016           3.25 m

The wiz have plenty of cap space this off season to pull this type of deal off.  The best thing about the deal is that his contact wouldn't tie up cap space for the years ahead. 

Now in 2012-13, with roughly 18-22 million dollars under the cap (assuming rashard will be bought out at 10 m, rookie contracts, no javale, no Nick Young (i'll get back to that later), etc

Why not go after George Hill and/or Nicolas Batum?

Hill and Batum are potential all-star calibur players at their positions.  Hill and Batum have played for Defensive minded coaches so they actually know how to play defense unlike half of the current wizard roster. Hill and Batum have been giving uneven minutes since they have been in the NBA, so you know they are ready to leave
their current teams.  I assume that Hill and Batum would jump at the chance to be starters in the NBA and play for a Capable Pass-First point guard such as John Wall.  Hill was a very good scorer in college and could play his natural position of SG in DC.  Batum has shown flashes of greatness and he is only 23. 

The Wiz could frontend the contracts on Hill and Batum in the first 2 years of their contracts, I'll roughly estimate their contracts

George Hill         5 year/30 million

2012-2013           8 m

2013-2014           8 m

2014-2015           4.6 m

2015-2016           4.6 m

2017-2018           4.6 m

Nicolas Batum       5 year/45 million

2012-2013           12 m

2013-2014           12 m

2014-2015           7  m

2015-2016           7  m

2017-2018           7  m


Couple of reason why the wiz should front end the first two years of their contracts.  Since Hill and Batum are restricted players, the Wizards need to front end these contracts because most teams wouldn't either be capable or scared to death to commit such large salaries to their teams at the current time due to the New CBA.  The other reason is that it would free up more money down the road for extensions for Wall, Seraphin, and Booker. 

I know their is a lot of love for Nick Young, but the wiz should pass on Young.  NicK Young is way too one-dimensional to commit a big contract to.  The perfect example of this is Ben Gordon.  Hill could potential be a 17 pts/5 reb/5 assist a game.

A potential Wall/Hill/Batum/Booker/Seraphin starting lineup would be very entertaining and potential great.  And I am not including the potential draft picks the Wiz will get the next couple of years.  The NBA is filled with mid-level contracts that help kill cap space in the long run for many NBA teams.  Look at how much the contracts of Etan Thomas and Darius Songalia hurt the Wiz for many years.  So why not just front end players that could have the potential to be great players.  The Wiz should use the San Antonio mold of signing Euro League Vets, D-Leaguers, Draft picks, and NBA vet minimums to fill out their roster with their core players. 

I think that Hill is a realistic option for the Wiz but Batum might be a difficult signing.  If the wiz could package a no. 1 pick with Blatche for an expiring contract, this scenerio could be realistic (good luck with that, lol) for more cap space down the road.


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All the Wizards need is...

Harrison Barnes at the 3 and Jared Sullinger at the 4. They should be able to get Barnes with their lottery pick. They will have to send the Atlanta pick and a lot of cash to be able to a lucky lottery winner to get Sullinger.

Then you have a near-perfect balance of talent with Wall, Young, Barnes, Sullinger and McGee.

The last pieces would be a young man’s coach and a big man coach.

by Izman on Mar 4, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

Only problem is....

McGee is still on the team and starting. We will never be a good team until he is gone. He’s an athletic freak with loads of potential…..but what does potential mean if you don’t know how to play basketball. He’s been playing for 20 years and he still doesn’t get it. There is no hope for him.

by Old Buck Wilder on Mar 4, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

NO HOPE???

Wow. Somebody better tell him. Poor guy.

by Stanicek on Mar 4, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

wow!!!

if somebody had told me there was no hope for me when I was 20, I would just have quit school, quit working and smoked a lotta drugs……oops.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Mar 6, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That is one thing that has always irked me about McGee

Both his parents were professional bball players (his mom being one of the best all-time), but yet, he has such a low bball IQ. With all the tools that he has, you still have to wonder if he hasn’t yet grasped an understanding of the game within the game by now, is he ever?? I can understand if he was a streetballer and just learning how to pay the game, but i’m sure this guy has been in camp after camp since a young age and still does not have an understanding of his role as a big man.

by TheRealBigMike on Mar 4, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiz should be able to get one of those players.

But I hardly doubt, they’ll get both. Unless they traded JW, wizards don’t have enough piece to trade up.

by Revan1000 on Mar 6, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yawn...

You’re right about the love for Nick Young. A home grown talent with the ability to hit shots at will. I don’t know if it’s worth commiting a lot of money to him, but the team should try to retain him. As far as George Hill and Nicholas Batum-whom I like, I’m just not high enough on either…like their not exactly elite…to be Young’s replacement. I’m going to be honest. We shouldn’t be thinking at all of getting rid of Nick Young…not the way he can shoot!

by Herb Harris on Mar 5, 2011 4:44 AM EST reply actions  

Nick Young 1 dimensional

I happen to think that Nick Young is less one-dimensional than, say, Michael Redd.

by Herb Harris on Mar 5, 2011 4:53 AM EST reply actions  

The beauty of Nick

is he can play D. His team D should also improve as he continues to gain experience. This makes him an improvement on the Ben Gordons and Kevin Martins of the world into the future.

by Mr. E on Mar 5, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

The list of guys who can score like Nick AND man-defend at the SG position like him is not as long as people seem to think IMHO

by DCrez on Mar 7, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Its going to be a couple years till we can actually pick up a FA worth being in our rotation

No players like George Hill or Nicholas Batum are going to come here unless we do what people are suggesting we should not do to NY… overpay them.

It will take atleast two years for us to start winning more games and then we can be a more attractive team for these FA’s so they feel like they can come here and compete.

by koop1122 on Mar 5, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

this post was very hard to read

in more ways than one

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Mar 6, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

The Spurs won't let go of Hill

Batum, I dunno if he deserves that type of money…

by thewiz06 on Mar 6, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

I kinda like the Chuck Hayes idea...

… but I don’t condone dumping Nick Young. And since we can’t do both for cap reasons, I’d rather just stick with Young. Now is not the time to be adding a veteran role player – not one with a long term contract anyway.

I’d try and work out a Presti-style contract with Nick Young. We have about $12M in cap room (counting the picks but ignoring Young) assuming the cap level remains relatively unchanged. We should spend all $12M on Nick Young’s first season so that he’ll cost less against the cap going forward.

Let’s assume someone will offer Young a 4-year $24M deal (new CBA will probably limit contracts to 4 years). We can instead offer to pay Young $12M next year plus $4M per year each year thereafter. Actually, we can probably negotiate a little less money since he’s making so much money up front and the time-value of money makes it worth more. Make it: $12M, $3M, $3.3M $3.6M in the next four years respectively. That keeps our cap hit in 2012 at a mininum so we can keep hope alive for a big time free agent.

by nate33 on Mar 7, 2011 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

SHOULD WE TRADE...

Mcgee or blatch and Atlanta pick for top 5 pick? (we could have 2 in the top 5).

This is a weak draft mind u, and im not ready to give up on blatche.

by playnpg22 on Mar 7, 2011 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

McGee and/or Blatch and Atlanta pick still may not be enough.

for teams to give up top 5 pick. I would love the trade if that happens.
We’ll probably have to give up more, such as next years No 1 or trade for huge contract like Baron Davis. Unless EG can find another 2009 EG. 8 )

by Revan1000 on Mar 8, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact LA sent an unprotected pick to Cleveland

speaks volumes on how GMs view this draft class.

by DCrez on Mar 8, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Sign Young

He plays D, scores and enjoys playing the game. Wall & Young can grow into a great back-court. Buy 2 or 3 late 1st round picks and get some solid young players. Not projects with great upside, but guys like Booker. Give the team a couple of years to grow up together before going after free agents. Get a big man coach before we give up McGee and Blatche.

by Steve Werntz on Mar 7, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

I like young but dont pay him too much $$

Fact is he’s good but not that good. There’s a lot of 6’5 players out there that can flat out score but can’t do much else. Jordan Crawford’s a good example. NY is a baller, but he’ll never be a Dwayde. Too Loosy goosy.

by playnpg22 on Mar 7, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

I agree with alot of you, here’s what I’m thinking.
Free Agents
1) Marc Gasol- restricted so Memphis can match so something like 35-40million 5 years
2) Greg Oden- here me out 2 years 4million back up center Portland can match. low risk
3) Sebastian Telfair- back up point and again 3-4 years 2million/ year
4) Tracy McGrady- a Vet, back up and could help teach youngsters
5) Nick young- the only guy I think we need to sign on our free agents, but for the right price
Trade away Trade for options
1) Rashard Lewis 1) OJ Mayo (scoring bench)
2) Andray Blatche
3) Javale McGee
4) J. Crawford
 
Draft
1) Harrison Barnes, Wizards need a SF I think this guy is a must in this years draft. (Besides his 4 game winning three pointers) Sullinger is great too and it would be great to get both, but I think we are stuck with one. Unless someone like the Cavs ask for Blatche Crawford and the Hawks pick for their Clipper pick which is a top ten at the moment.
2) Jeremy Tyler second round 6’11" big man needs work, but could pay off in a couple years. maybe before McGee does.

well there you go First time post comment thing just throwing it out there

by Poojie on Mar 8, 2011 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

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