NBA Trade Rumors: Why a quiet deadline is best for the Wizards
We're a week away from the February 24 trade deadline, and all seems quiet on the Wizards' front. The only rumors that are really out there with this team are the ones from December with Andray Blatche and a throwaway line about the Lakers wanting Kirk Hinrich. The former, I'm sure, is still there, and we shouldn't make anything out of the latter because a) the Lakers have been rumored to "want" Hinrich for the last several years now, and b) the Lakers rarely make significant midseason trades unless its a no-brainer (i.e. Pau Gasol).
In other words, at this point, it doesn't look like we'll have much to dissect next week. Now, obviously, that could change soon, since trade talk tends to pick up during All-Star Weekend, but as of right now, that's where we are at. That's fine by me. I'd like the team to stay quiet, if I'm being honest.
For what it's worth, it's probably going to be a quiet deadline regardless. Teams are sitting around waiting for Melodrama to end, and most are also worried about taking on long-term salary with a new CBA coming, especially with the owners still dead set on a hard cap. For perspective here, consider this: according to Ken Berger of CBS Sports, who is the go-to guy on labor issues, Carmelo Anthony would only be eligible for a four-year, $47 million deal under the owners' proposal. Given that, everyone's going to be nervous about taking on a deal signed under an old CBA that looks very different from the new one.
But from the Wizards' perspective, that's cool with me. The only trade I really want to see done, if possible, is one that moves either Blatche or Rashard Lewis for some value (i.e. an expiring contract or worthwhile players). But the chances of that happening don't appear to be likely now. Lewis probably makes too much money for any team to take him on, and we haven't heard anything about anyone wanting Blatche for a long time now. Frankly, the only pieces you'll probably get back for Blatche and Lewis are other long-term contracts.
Otherwise? I don't see a real point to doing something significant. Hinrich is expensive, but he's also helpful and has just one year left. Unless some team is silly enough to offer a first-round pick for him, I don't see how we get any value back. There's an argument to be made that selling high on Nick Young is wise, but that will only mean we'll get back worse pieces that we'll eventually have to pay anyway. As much as I'm down on overpaying Young, I want to keep him and I suspect it will not take very much to do so in this new CBA.
So what does that leave us? A trade of Al Thornton for spare parts. I mean, okay, sure. A trade of Yi for spare parts? I doubt anyone wants Yi. A trade of JaVale? Not now, not when he is still young, big and cheap. A trade of Josh Howard? He can veto a trade.
So I don't see much out there. And honestly, we need to ask ourselves what we want the Wizards to receive back in a trade for any of these players. Trimming salary shouldn't be a huge concern because the Wizards are projected to have a pretty low payroll already. Getting draft picks would be nice, but I'd rather see us buy them for $3 million on draft night (which is definitely an option that will be there - contenders don't want the guaranteed contracts coming into a new CBA) than ditch a player to get them. Acquiring better players is always nice, but it takes two to tango for that. Realistically, I don't see any way the Wizards can accomplish much by moving players next week.
Then again, I'm not a GM.
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With the new CBA coming, I like the thought of having Hinrich around next year because he will be expiring.
Might as well hang on to Dray, in case he improves and can raise his stock up a little if at all. It seems all of the pieces we have now are just as valuable after the season besides the expiring contracts like Howard or Yi.
I am interested to see if Boston goes after Howard, he seems like a good fit for their needs right now. I just wish his knee had stayed healthy all year, because it probably hurts his value that he has missed time.
I am curios to the position that the new CBA is putting teams like Miami or the Lakers in next year and further into the future. LA has a huge payroll, and they could be stuck because its not like they have a bunch of tradeable assets. And Miami, the entirety of their salary cap room could be consumed by three players. How bad is this really going to hurt them in the coming years?
by returnofswagger on Feb 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions
Hopefully a lot
At the very least
by returnofswagger on Feb 17, 2011 4:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
In the last twelve years, one team has won five titles, one won four, one superteam won one, one team that was in the conference finals for like five consecutive years won another, and the Heat won one with one of the most aesthetically unappealing and manufactured teams ever made. It’s time for some parity.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Feb 18, 2011 7:27 AM EST up reply actions
If the new CBA ruins the Lakers
I’m sure Stern will add an amendment that allows them to acquire Blake Griffin for Luke Walton.
The new CBA with a hard cap will screw up the Lakers
If contracts can’t be restructured/bought out without hitting the cap on a one time basis, then the Lakers are gonna have to give up Kobe or Pau by trading them to another team. They will be royally screwed as we know it. I don’t think Stern would favor teams in this restructuring, given that the NHL has been pretty damn successful after their lockout.
I a little surprised Howard isn't gone yet
I doubt he will veto a trade to a playoff contender. he is a free agent after this season and so the Wiz could get something for him, like a future 2nd rounder and then sign him again. He is an ideal playoff type because he can step right in and contribute and considering his contract is 3 mil this season, they pay about a mil for him. I mean if Howard is going to walk, he is going to walk.
He sacrifices any free agent rights he might get if he agrees to a trade
Click through the link in the post – it explains why.
Mike can you clarify this point
You say that he loses “any free agent rights,” but the link specifies that he would lose Larry Bird rights that allow the team he’s with to go over the cap to pay him. I’m not sure how much Howard expects to be paid next season, considering he’s had little court time to show off his skills this year, but it doesn’t seem like it would be that much. If he’s not expecting to make more than, say, the MLE next year, perhaps a trade to a contender like Boston be attractive to him because (1) it’s a playoff contender rather then a team struggling to get to 20 wins and (2) it improves his marketability if he performs well for a playoff team.
"Now, obviously individual production does not unilaterally equal better team production, but there's a high level of causation."
by Vanilla Gorilla on Feb 17, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I meant pretty much that he loses his Bird Rights
Which means that the only way he can make more than the MLE (though the MLE is probably gone with a new CBA) is by signing with an under-the-cap team. He can’t get it from whichever team trades for him.
Whereas if he stayed with the Wizards, the Wizards can go over the cap to re-sign him.
Regardless
I’m not sure Howard has a future with the Wizards… Giving up his “Bird” rights on a team that probably won’t resign him anyway doesn’t sound like the end of the world.
Obviously a lot depends on the draft, and which player(s) are available when the Wizards pick – but we know for an ALMOST fact that Rashard Lewis will be here… and Lewis has been playing a lot at SF.
We also know that Nick Young can play some SF (although not as well as SG) – and there’s always the possibility/probability of resigning Cartier Martin or Thornton. Flip has even been experimenting with Booker at SF.
Given that the Wizards may not re-sign Howard – he might be open to a trade to a team with a hole at SF (Boston, Dallas) – a Playoff bound team.
He's "delightfully cranky"
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
So- given that
It’s possible that a Boston trade for Howard could work:
Boston sends Avery Bradley + Marquis Daniels to Washington for Howard
Or a Dallas trade
Dallas sends their 2011 first round pick to Washington for Howard (Dallas using their Trade Exception from the Najera transaction).
He's "delightfully cranky"
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
I'd rather take Daniels and their 1st rounder
I view Bradley as a tweener guard with a suspect jumpshot. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Shakur and legitimately think he could be a long term backup point guard for us if we can move Hinrich next year. A 1st rounder instead of Bradley would give us some more flexibility to help our needs, SF, PF, C.
by PhenomenalSwag on Feb 17, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Shakur looks like one of those guys on the fringes of the league
for no reason that you can ascertain when he plays. I think he’s good enough to allow for trading Hinrich IF the right deal arises.
eh - you're right....
I was just thinking off the top of my head for teams with a hole at SF….. Dallas ain’t happening…
He's "delightfully cranky"
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Josh Howard is probably hoping for a sign and trade this off season
Go play for a contender on a contract that takes advantage of his Bird rights. Why should he give anything up now when there’s a chance to get it all in a few months?
Good assessment Prada.
I agree with you on everything but this:
I’m not a GM
because I think you secretly might be.
"I am not a GM..."
It has a kind of Nixonian lilt to it :-)
Obviously I am not the WIzards GM either, but if I were I would certainly listen to any offers that might come my way. No one on this team should be considered untradeable except Wall. I want the team to hold onto Young, but others believe his stock will never be any higher than it is now. Etc Etc
The point is that even though, as Mike says, we will likely see no roster movement, we should expect the real GM to be keeping an open mind at this point.
I would say Wall (of course), Nick, and Javale are untouchable
Javale has been severly disappoiting recently, but he’s a 7’2" freak athlete who may just add another 10-15 pounds in the next 12 months- it’s just not possible to trade him for the same upside. Part of rebuilding is seeing what these guys have, he gets through next season to prove himself. That’s a no-brainer.
There is a reason Nick’s stock cant be higher and it’s because he’s BALLIN OUT. What could we get for him? 14th pick in a crappy draft? No thanks. By the end of the year he will look like a 5-7 pick and we’re the one’s who developed him. Gotta try and keep him. From a purely probability standpoint, chances are he’s better right now than Kanter or Valuncianus are ever going to be. Bird in hand sitting atop a gift horse my friends.
To me I'm still in the camp that Wall is our only untradeable player
but I’d ask for a good pick and a prospect for Young or McGee, and I don’t think many teams will give us that much in order to get them.
Sell High Buy Low Babe !!!
Three Team Trade
-——————————————————-
Sacramento IN
Nick Young – Solid to above avg SG starter (SuperAthletic)
Andray Blatche – Solid Bigman Starter with Potential (Great Contract)
Shannon Brown – Good potential starting guard (SuperDuperAthletic)
Yi Jianlian – Althletic Bigman with still sum Potential
Hilton Armstrong – Good shot blocking Bigman
2011 Lakers 1st – Pick could slip to mid 20s
Sacramento OUT
DeMarcus Cousins
Samuel Dalembert
Luther Head
-——————————————————-
L.A. Lakers IN
Kirk Hinrich – Lakers get there man
L.A. Lakers OUT
Luke Walton
Shannon Brown
Devin Ebanks
2011 Lakers 1st
-——————————————————-
Washington IN
DeMarcus Cousins – Potential Low-post SuperStar (Next Kevin Love)
Devin Ebanks – Good potential super althletic wing
Samuel Dalembert – Big Expiring Big Man Vet
Luther Head – PG Expiring Vet
Luke Walton – 2 years left Really Smart and Experienced Vet
Washington OUT
Kirk Hinrich
Andray Blatche
Yi Jianlian
Nick Young
Hilton Armstrong
Is Sacramento Stupid???
Any trade that brings us Demarcus Cousins, I’m for…if Sacramento is that stupid!! That dude is
a stud! Other than that, keep Nick Young, Javale….Blatche too(I know it’s an unpopular opinion,
but I don’t think we’ve seen his best…I think he’s a starting 4). Wall is going to be unstoppable…
as soon as he develops an excellent jump shot. I like Booker, Yi, Seraphin. maybe Howard gets caught in a numbers game, I dunno, but he can still play! Kirk Hinrich is super effective. I
just don’t know if he has a future in DC. And now, with the 7th pick in the NBA draft, the Washington Wizards select ???
by Herb Harris on Feb 17, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Sacramento is already through with him because of the attitude problems.
For all we know, they would be happy to get rid of him.
by returnofswagger on Feb 17, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
If the Kings hate Cousins, they'll hate Blatche too for his attitude and his play.
Wall and Cousins get reunited sure, but will he be Blatche version 2 attitude wise as a Wizard? Is he also gonna try to question who the star of the Wizards is?
John Wall could keep him in check
they were almost unstoppable in Kentucky
he is Walls Enforcer His main BigMan they play off each others game NICELY
I just feel like once you start throwing millions of dollars at a guy
it gives him more entitlement and arrogance. So as a college kid he was bearable if not coachable.
Now he’s a “rich, grown, man” who doesn’t want to hear it. I don’t know this for a fact but I would imagine some process like this goes on in a twisted mind once you turn pro. He is not the exception, nor is John Wall some magical cure.
by returnofswagger on Feb 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
And the thought of Ted trading for him is HILARIOUS
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 18, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
No risk...
….no reward.
The Wiz don’t have much to lose. They ought to be aggressive in getting a second lottery pick, rather than waiting for an uncertain outcome.
"Untouchable"?
No such thing.
Thank you Prada for talking realistically about realistic possibilities.
again, a really top notch (and yet basic) assessment of the situation.
Wrong about Cousins!
Have you seen Cousins play? You have to be insane not to want the next dominant big
man in DC! Don’t forget this is his first season. He’s already dominant. A fluid, skilled,
explosive down-right nasty big man. Sign me up for the headache!!
I'm not insane.
I do not want the next Derrick Coleman. You don’t win championships with those guys.
by MR on Feb 18, 2011 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
Kevin Garnett is about as divisive as a player can be and still be successful...
Simmons recently said Celtics fans love KG because he’s ‘their’ monster, more or less. I doubt there are many, if any, Sacramento players or fans who feel like Boogie is ‘their’ monster…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Feb 18, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Kings aren't insane either
Their not trading the second best talent in the this draft
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Feb 18, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Trade for a grizzled veteran center
Remember how Kurt Thomas punked JaVale a couple of months ago? We were all excited about our chances to beat the Bulls because Noah went out with the thumb injury a couple of days before. Instead, Crazy Eyes took JaVale completely out of the game with an assortment of dirty tricks. Really got into his head, and JaVale and Flip each got technicals for complaining about it.
I’d love for EG to trade for a grizzled vet who can pull all those nasty, illegal-only-if-the-refs-catch-it tricks on our soft bigs every day in practice. An old guy on his last legs who gets by on guile instead of athleticism. A guy who has accomplished things in the league and who can immediately step into a leadership role.

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