Washington Wizards Close To Signing Roger Mason Jr., According To Report
by Mike Prada on Dec 7, 2011 7:28 PM EST
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PrintVia Craig Stouffer of the Washington Examiner:
The Wizards are close to agreeing to a contract with free agent guard Roger Mason Jr. that would bring the D.C. native back for his second NBA stint in his hometown, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
Stouffer doesn't give a dollar figure, but the veteran's minimum is probably what makes the most sense. Any more and the Wizards are probably overpaying. Mason's really fallen off as a player since the very beginning of his San Antonio tenure. He's essentially had one decent year with the Wizards in 2007-08 and half of a good season for the Spurs in 2008-09 before Tony Parker's injury caused him to play too much point guard. His PER has cratered to 9.7 and 7.2 over the past two years, and he hit only 33 percent of his threes last season, which is supposed to be his strength.
The Wizards seemingly are hoping his veteran presence helps in the locker room. I can see where they're coming from there. If it were me, though, I'd rather the Wizards spend a little more money and find a bench player who can provide more on-court contributions.
In any event, if the report is true, welcome back, Roger.
UPDATE: Michael Lee reports the deal is for the veteran's minimum.
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who's the guy standing behind roger in the photo?
welcome back mr. mason. i’m a fan. i hope your shooting touch comes back to you this year.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 7, 2011 7:35 PM EST reply actions
i made the brilliant move of clicking on the photo
it’s “recent draft pick Charles Jenkins” (whoever that is)
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 7, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Same here its for the Vet. minimum
plus he is a local talent. I am not trying to be to successful this year anyway. The ’12 draft is just loaded.
Smart Move
Good move on two fronts:
1. Mason can take the pressure off of the other youngsters. He’s a stabilizing player that’s not going to hurt you, but like any shooter can, he can definitely get hot and help you.
2. And for me this is even better, but I’d like to see a few DMV guys on the roster. I think part of building a contender is building a real connection between city and team pride. Local guys want these young guys to respect their native turf. I’d like to see another local player, preferably a “big” like Joey Dorsey or Chris Wilcox (from NC, but of Terp fame) add some beef to the paint (not to mention bang on the young guys in practice).
by SpecialSauce on Dec 7, 2011 7:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Missing shots hurts the team
Mason specializes in missing the shots he takes. That’s not taking the pressure off. That’s hurting the team and putting pressure on guys to make shots.
But to look at it another way, this is the perfect tanking move. Add a knockdown shooter who can’t shoot to a roster full of players that can’t shoot either.
How Much Can He Hurt...
If he’s only getting 10 mpg?
He’s not being signed to be a major contributor! He’s coming to DC because all parties are familiar with one another, the Wizards have some cap space, and it can’t hurt them. How can signing Mason for the vet’s min hurt this team?
Flip has two weeks to create some sort of a professional training camp, having a vet that’s been through a few before makes sense to me.
Besides
If he subs in for Blatche (49.7% TSP) , or Jordan Crawford (45.6% TSP) he’ll be HELPING the team.
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Good Point About Blatche
But I’m pretty sure that Crawford will significantly improve that dreadful TSP this season. If he doesn’t, then he really doesn’t have a future.
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Mason will not play every game
Maybe he play’s about 25 games at 10mpg and the rest DNP/CD. He definitively shouldn’t steal significant time from our youngsters though.
He is a good leader by example to have in practice and in the lockerroom I suppose so I’m all for it.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
Second on the DMV connection
I love seeing local guys on the roster, as long as they make sense on the team. Mason is not the best veteran PG on the market, but we’re signing him for cheap to play limited minutes (ostensibly), so there’s not really that big of an opportunity cost in signing him for bench depth.
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Veteran Presence?
Isn’t this the same Roger Mason that had issues with Nick Young when they were competiting for minutes a few years back.
Just because someone is old and their game is declining doesn’t necessarily mean you want their presence in the locker room.
A very uninspiring move. Mason seems to be a smart, hard working guy but his game stinks and this moves reeks of lazy GM’ing. Seems like EG just wants to sign the guy because he’s familiar with him, not because he can bring anything to the table.
It's not like he's going to be getting a lot of burn
and besides, if he shoots anything like he can, he’ll be a net positive in limited minutes.
Geting it done.
by Knowledge92 on Dec 7, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree. For the vet minimum, it's a no-risk move.
He’ll shoot a little, play a little D. Nothing wrong with this move. It won’t inspire anyone, but with so many youg’uns, it’s good to bring in a vet.
by YellaFella on Dec 8, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The guy was laying bricks last year
Not sure if he’ll be much of a positive impact.
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ehhhh who cares?
He’s a fringe NBA player. The whole local roots thing does nothing for me and I even played against him several times in High School. I know thats a big deal to some people but meaningless to me and is the kind of cynical move Pollin used to pull all the time. Not sure why they did this but can’t get worked up over a 3rd string SG/4th String PG.
He will provide one skill we need....
shooting, but otherwise, I don’t want him on our team solely because he’s a native.
I know his shot last couple years (esp 09-10) wasn't at his peak
but shooting is a skill that just doesn’t go away all of a sudden. Hopefully he can rekindle a little bit of that touch.
His best years were with San Antonio
where he played with Tony Parker. Maybe he & John can duplicate that same success. Honestly, I’d rather bring back Mo Evans. He brings more defensive versatility IMO.
If I'm not mistaken, the Wizards talked to Evans's agent right after the league-mandated silence ended
I don’t think it’s necessarily one or the other.
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I like Roger
I know his game has fallen off, but he’s a smart player, and there’s a place for him.
by satchmore on Dec 7, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The unfortunate reality is
that sucky teams can’t land decent veterans for the vet minimum. If that’s what we’re offering, we’re either going to get crappy, over-the-hill vets, or we can get hungry D-Leaguers. While the D-League angle might be more likely to pay off production-wise, sometime you have to have a few vets on the team just to stabilize things. It’s not like we’re looking for another young guard on this roster.
I can live with Roger Mason for the vet minimum.
by nate33 on Dec 7, 2011 8:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree, we should find someone with at least a little upside
Clearly the veteran presence is good but Roger Mason isn’t even a sure-to-be mediocre player.
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I hated the first two so much haven’t even seen the third…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Meh.
I’d prefer Sam Cassell suiting back up.
by talha on Dec 7, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It Will Depend on Roger
33% is not good enough, but if he can improve on that then he’ll be an asset. We need more shooters, and I’m not ready to write him off yet. Players can sometimes get better with a change of scenery, let’s all hope that happens with Roger. For the record, I was a pretty big fan of his when he played here.
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Yeah
If 30% is good enough, why didn’t we bring back Cartier?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
I guess because HowU is more of a veteran/lockerroom guy
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure how valuable that is
…remembering Fabricio Oberto, and wondering how Mason can have more of an impact…hmm…maybe teach JC better habits…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Assuming we resign Mo
Would they have to battle it out for team rep? A cage match could be a good revenue concept.
Mason could have team rep and Mo could keep his spot as Union VP
I get the joke though.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 7, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
EVANS: “I have to be the player rep. This is a blood issue.”
MASON: “Fine, fine. I’ll give it to you. But otherwise, just wondering, how u?”
by Mike Prada on Dec 7, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really hope we sign him so I can make "How U" jokes all year.
Actually, I’ll probably make them anyways.
Going to expect pics of your custom jersey this year
if so…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Not a problem.
I really have a soft spot for unathletic white guys.
I remember Chris Miller interviewed Roger's mom a few years ago
And he asked her whether she’d root for the team her son was playing on or her hometown Wizards. Without hesitation, she said she’d go for the Wizards. Mad respect.
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Settle down
It’s just a veteran minimum signing for a 10th-12th man. I think you all are over analyzing this signing. He’s just a locker room guy
by Bryan1976 on Dec 8, 2011 12:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Eh
The problem is that it’s a roster spot we were hoping would be used elsewhere
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
not thrilled about this
Roger’s game has cratered he seems to have alot of interest outside of the game not sure he’s commited to doing everything he can to make himself the best player he can.
Such violent passion...
Mason did fine here once before and he will be fine in the role he is being asked to play, which is good locker room presence, good practice energy, good community relations, a bit of garbage time and, maybe, a big shot in a critical moment.
by khrabb on Dec 8, 2011 3:40 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
cosign this
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 5:26 AM EST up reply actions
So basically his in-game and practice contributions are going to make him the new Cartier Martin
I don’t remember that benefitting the team much. I agree with whoever it was above that it smacks of lazy GMing. I’m not hating on Mason, he did ok for us back when. I’d just rather the Wizards for once made a determined effort to upgrade the roster during free agency rather than accruing lesser pieces and holdovers.
Go and sign someone who might benefit the team in a few years time.
by BballBrit on Dec 8, 2011 6:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Uhhh, didn't Martin essentially shoot us to a couple of wins?
Folks are overreacting here. Mason’s fine as a 5th guard. He shouldn’t play much, but is a classy lockerroom presence and non-whiny pro for the vet’s minumum. What’s not to like?
Clearly the team feels good about resigning Young or they’d be looking for someone who could contribute more than Money Mase.
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by averagebro on Dec 8, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He is a step up from Shakur
and its the vet minimum. We can cut him if need be.
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You missed it. That got really out of hand.
Sean killed a guy with a trident.
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fagan Rec'd
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by mr. 91 on Dec 8, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who/what is Fagan?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Dutch c'mon man
A guy takes the lockout off and he just disappears? Hurtful.
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lol, nah man, I didn't know it was a reference to you....my bad
But since I’m clearly totally oblivious on the subject…what exactly makes a rec a Fagan rec?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
when one refuses to use the rec button
copyright imperial me
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Just got violent again
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by returnofswagger on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Or kinky
I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.
by returnofswagger on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Cosign
I totally agree with this post. I think that if he shows up a few times and is a positive presence in the locker room, it will be a great move. or shall I say a positive move.
by Shawn-Paul Muth on Dec 8, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not thrilled
This is a pretty boring move which doesn’t do much harm but which also lacks the potential of maybe giving the team something special, which might turn out better than expected. And I guess this really means good bye Josh Howard. I was actually hoping the Wiz might be able to bring him back for cheap to provide some solid minutes and veteran leadership while our young forwards develop, and to spell Nick Young when Crawford is having one of those shooting nights where Flip tells him to stop jacking it and just stick to passing the ball. Nah, bringing back Roger Mason seems like one of the most unimaginative moves Ernie could possibly make.
Reality
This year is not about a playoff push. The Wizards are not going to run out and sign big free agents this year because their goal is to develop all the young talent. They are just signing veterans who will have the role of mentoring all the youth on this team & won’t complain about how much time they’re getting. Mason is a good character guy. If it makes you all happier, we can go out blow some big money on mediocre free agents that aren’t t going to make us any better.
by Bryan1976 on Dec 8, 2011 7:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I still don't get this
It seems as though someone is not going to be here when the season starts. If you include all the rookies and the qualifying offers, Howard and Evans (who they are in talks with) that would be 17 players. Are they not serious about signing Howard or Evans? Are they planning on letting Jeffers and/or Owens go?
I think Jeffers and Owens are out
I really root for those guys but I understand the disire to add more veteran players.
Between Josh Howard and Mo Evans I see one of them returning, not both. I’d prefer Evans because he’s more of a complementary 3 and D guy.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
If we end up with Howard and Evans we will be able to match any lineup the Twolves roll
If Jeffers is out I will be furious…especially if MIA picks him up…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
If history teaches us anything
it is that Jeffers will wind up on San Antonio. Unless his hustle last year was performance-enhanced, in which case we offer him a 3-year contract.
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by Elvin_is_my_Elvis on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
id rather a veteran who atleast USED to be good
like a michael redd. someone who at one point was one of the best players on his team and had control of a locker room. just because roger is older, does not mean he’ll provide any veteran leadership. duncan and parker led that team and he just sat there and tried not to mess up.
Didn't we do this with JHo?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The 16th!
…don’t get it though…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Those types of veterans
want to sign on with the Heat, Celtics ect. Those types of guys want rings. Mason is coming here because he has good practices habits and can probably run Flips offense in drills, thus giving Crawford and Wall some real opposition during practice.
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by Sean Fagan on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Locker room guy
The Wiz have lot’s of “locker room” guys. Young guys who hide in there (armed at times), older guys who hang in there, and injured guys who can’t get out of there.
When do the Wiz sign some guys who can, you know, play? Can you seriously not get ballers to come to Chocolate City?? How f’ed up is that? I like the thing about not being able to sign guys who want rings . . . don’t you start firing your FO until you CAN sign guys who want rings?
Well
1) You need to start winning with the guys you have in a good system and then players become interested.(LAC)
2) You grossly overpay for a formerly marquee or middling talent with the hope that it demonstrates a commitment to winning.(MIL/DET)
3)You build around your star with guys who complement his talents (OKC)
A guy like Shane Battier doesn’t want to come to the Wizards, nor would any other veteran looking to compete now. We are in year 2 of the rebuild. The best guess is that the Wizards are hoping to land a marquee talent in next years draft, and convince one of the types of players you mention to come to DC.
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They are not trying to lure in bigtime FA's this yr.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
This years top 3 priorities are as followed
Prio 1: develop the youngsters
Prio 2: develop the youngsters
Prio 3: develop the youngsters
In order to that you need to give them PT and have some veteran leadership on the roster that don’t take PT away from them.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Amnesty Sweepstakes
are the unspoken wild card. Think about it: what better way to sign pretty decent, veteran players to really cheap contracts, all the while SUBSIDIZED by teams in a financially weaker position? It may not work out – that is, the players we like may not be available in amnesty – but we are one of the few teams who will be able to compete in bids for amnestied players. So signing Mason to a really cheap contract preserves our ability to manipulate this possibility.
For example: I’m no big fan of Vince Carter. But he can play, and can still run. Would you consider signing him for $2mil a season (not going to bother looking up the length of his contract right now) instead of signing Nick Young to a much more expensive contract? I would. It’s worth waiting to see what players are going to be out there, let the other teams blow their powder on free agents. If it doesn’t work out for us, well then, there’s the draft….
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