Bullet Points: Where #Wizards Travel Well, Nene Hilario Gets A Max Deal(?) and New Miami (York) In The Offing
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 6, 2011 7:00 AM EST
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Print- As Wizards fans, we represent a small but fierce cross-section of NBA fandom. Solidarity is important when our team comes to town, so this one is for Wizards fans living in NBA cities not within driving distance of DC. If you're planning to see the John Wall and Co. when they come to town, let us know about it. If we can get small groups together in the lower decks to cheer the team out of the tunnel, that would be awesome. I have a fond memory of Nick Young's amazed smile last year at seeing a fan wearing Wizards teal (R.I.P.) On that note, if there is no game in Phoenix this year, I will literally die.
- Old news, but the Nene Hilario max contract rumors immediately confirmed there is no system the NBA can devise that will protect the owners from their own stupidity.
- Remember when I wondered (along with everyone else) if the Carmelo Anthony trade meant bad things for parity? ...Yup.
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Beyonce sings it best imho
As for Vesely/Singleton perimeter defense, y’all be surprised at Vesely’s ability to stay in front of his smaller and quicker matchup. In fact, it’s one of two things he does best. The other being dunking.
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haha, yeah. I got sick of that stupid windmill
I actually wanted to have no avatar at all but for some reason that aint possible. Maybe I should find something with wooden shoe’s ;-)
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing says basketball like wooden shoes.
by mogoman on Dec 6, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So.....
OR
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Heresy
About Beyonce trumping Etta, that is.
by satchmore on Dec 6, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No Beyoncé love around here see?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I brush my teeth to African Child.
I love that ****
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 7, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
How can you not love this!?!?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 7, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
Broussard said last night Lakers are going after Howards AND cp3
yeah, parity must have been a real big issue for the owners. NOT!
The league brass would LOVE to see Howard and Paul teamed up with Kobe for a western conf superfriends
The Lakers should be able to sign both
when they clone Bynum and are able to trade him to both Orlando and New Orleans.
Broussard’s “report” is an example of pure shill hackery on his part. He’s basically playing the part of a muppet controlled by the Lakers’ front office. A true reporter would have inserted some kind of objective reason into the written piece, like: it would seem odd that the Lakers could trade an injury-prone center in Bynum and an older player like Gasol for two top-15 NBA players, perhaps each of them a Hall of Fame type player. I’ll refer to him as Kermit the Frog in the future.
Not that I blame the Lakers front office for getting Kermit on the phone: a nationally-recognized report like that only serves to heighten the public’s perceived value of its two assets Gasol and Bynum.
Not that I blame the Lakers front office for getting Kermit on the phone
Hilarious
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
The system is still broken
Bad contracts will still be signed and superteams will still be formed in the top tier markets. Small markets or good markets with a negative conotation (Toronto, Washington) are still in a disadvantage.
Rings are still a function of money and a city’s appeal rather than good management and good coaching
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I'd say it's too early to say if the system is already screwed up
but without a true hard cap, there is going to be a chance that the same teams that sucked over this past CBA, will remain sucky.
And no NBA team, even the top teams can have consistent sellouts at sky high prices forever if most teams they play are not that good.
by thewiz06 on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
another sport about to be ruined by no hard cap and big market disparity.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 6, 2011 10:00 AM EST reply actions
If this sport is ruined because of no hard cap and market disparity....
Is that more the fault of the owners or the players?
Both, but mostly the players fault
because the players want to be able to sign with any team, esp. the top teams, and they want the top teams to have no penalties except a tax.
It’s also the owners fault for not realizing that there are some issues that cannot be negotiated if that is what they determine as something that must be in place for more equity over the long run.
by thewiz06 on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
why do you still believe the owners care about parity and market disparity?
Nene JUST got a max deal on the heels of months of supposed arguments over this kind of thing….clearly the owners dont care, the Nugs didnt have to make their first offer a max deal but they did. Why would they do that?
Because the financials the league feeds the public are utter bullshit. Actions speak louder than words right? i think as long as there are butts in the seats the owners can afford to pay players like Nene max money….i cant think of any other reason deals like this are business as usual
by DCrez on Dec 6, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Some of the top team owners don't care about balance
But at least some of the teams not in the top do care because of profit margins. Paying players big deals is an investment in the hopes that more butts will be in seats, but this can also backfire, so teams are paying these deals, even if it hurts the team in the hope that such a signing could indirectly help other revenue streams.
The problem is that the non-desirable cities have both bad teams and overall bad attendance against most teams not in the glam status. And for the great teams, more and more of their games are against teams in these situations. Even the top teams’ fans don’t want to see games against a bunch of crap most of the time.
Better balance (Through any measure) = more butts in seats = win win for fans of all teams which mean better games AND more money for the owners AND more motivation for players to continue to improve on their teams.
Oh crap, didn't really exactly answer your question clearly
they do care overall because more balance (or at least more ways for bad teams to improve quickly which is how I see it) means more meaningful games and more money for everyone. That’s why.
IF you just have juggernaut teams, some pretenders and everyone else is bad, along with a system where the bad teams overall stay pretty hopeless, then that has to be rectified. Either make a new system to promote movement to the bad teams, OR we can use Dutch’s proposal to fold some of them, and with the NBA, we might as well get rid of at least a quarter of the teams.
You do realize the league as a whole makes more money when there isn't parity right?
TV ratings go up when there are superfriends teams. I’m not sure where you are getting this idea that better balance means more money for the league.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 6, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
My rationale comes from the long run.
not in the short run.
I get that less superteams is bad in the short run because most casual fans only want to see Cheatles, Lakers, and Blakers, but with more teams in the running for playoff spots at least, some team will eventually break through the pack and anticipation about that will help more markets’ fanbases be rowdier for their teams.
National TV money will be guaranteed and all teams share such revenue equally. However, local TV, ticket revenues and team sponsorships are not. That money can increase if certain bad teams played better on a perennial basis, especially for the bad small markets, and other large teams in the pariahs caste like the Nets and us. We’re a bad team, and a bad organization right now. we can’t act like we’re in the brahmins or even the kshatriyas caste yet and say we can get anyone we want, because the NBA media gods have basically shown that we’re nothing to them, though that may change as this year goes on.
Not sure where your going with this since you seemed to have completely changed your argument.
You said definitively more balance equals more money and thats what the owners want but the National TV deal generates so much of the profits for each team(The current deal which is about to expire is considered bad for the NBA and it still generates approx. 31M in revenue for each team per year with little to no overhead). The NBA as a whole will always be against parity because the whole league makes much more money and generates more interest when there are superteams. It has been this way for decades.
I believe in your egalitarian vision but when you apply it to the owners it doesn’t make any sense. The league negotiates as a whole. The whole league gets better TV ratings with big teams. The national deal is the best moneymaker for all teams but especially small market teams. They are businessmen acting in their own best interest to lock down the most guaranteed money immediately(I say that with no negative connotation). To expect them to act differently is illogical and goes against all recent history. I mean this is a league that keeps on putting expansion teams in failed or doomed to fail markets just so they can pocket expansion fees. Or selling teams at inflated prices to people buying mostly with credit just so it can increase their teams percieved value. But all of the sudden they are now long term thinkers?!? Grabbing as much money as you can whenever you can even if it affects the future is the American business way. These guys need super teams to drive up TV revenue and interest before renegotiating the TV deal next year. The difference could mean 5-15M(of almost pure profit) extra a year to each team.
You always seem to present your own personal views as those of the owners with little to no evidence to back it up. I gotta hand it to you though you always crack me up. You apply the most ironclad certainty to the most nuanced and difficult issues. I can’t even order chinese food with as much certainty as you apply to incredibly complex questions that might not have a “right answer”.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 7, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I try not to blur my views with the hard line owners and make it exactly the same
but I’ll have to admit that I have applied certainty to the complex issues. Then again, I’m talking as a fan, not as a guy deeply invested in the NBA business model, aside from season tix.
At this point, the main part of the CBA is done, and we’ll just have to see how the NBA is in practice. God only knows how players five years from now feel about free agency movement, etc . At least some of the system changes some owners wanted two years ago is because the players right now are leaning in a certain direction. So I’ll give it to you that no one CBA model is a hard and fast right answer.
And with Chinese food, when half of the items or more taste really good and sometimes similar (I assume you like Chinese food), well, it’s hard to select which items you want without getting the entire menu.
That's right.
- We’re all Bullets
- Not all Caps.
by mogoman on Dec 6, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ted needs to lose some weight... Geesh. Maybe AB knows a good personal chef ;)
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
February 20
Bullets Forever: Waiting for the Fat Lady to sing since 2006. | @jakewhitacre
by Jake Whitacre on Dec 6, 2011 12:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is going to be one hell of a busy week...
Thank you, baby Jeebus…
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 7, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Link?
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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 6, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
NVM, found it
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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 6, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunate benefit of lockout
It is almost certain the “not really improved” version of the bullets will lost fewer games (at least a couple) in a shortened season.
How can there not even be a RUMOR of some effort to improve this team? Newsflash: CBA’s don’t/can’t/won’t cure STUPID.
Because Ted's plan is to not take shortcuts, but build through the draft i.e. develop the young players
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 6, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He has said on the blog again and again
“We will adhere to our plan” so he’s not going to get a FA or a trade that sacrifices future talent at this stage…
Exactly
Unless it’s a gamechanger like DH12 or summat
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 7, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Transplanted Fans
I recently relocated from DC to Tampa for work. I will definitely be driving to Orlando to represent DC for the game/s against the magic. I’ll probably even make it to Miami and use a “work meeting” as an excuse.
Looking forward to see the squad develop this year.
by Perm on Dec 6, 2011 9:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
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