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The Flip Side: Rebuilding In The NBA, Meltdown On Ignition, Planning For Luck And A Word On Plant Husbandry

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Crisis?

I haven't subscribed to the John-Wall-for-Norris-Cole insanity, but still...suggesting the team is in crisis feels reactionary as hell in middle of Week 1. Sure, the starters have looked like a hot mess, the coach brought the fire and brimstone during preseason, the team captain questioned leadership via post-game commentary and Twitter before telling the world to 'shut up' after the team choked away a massive lead in a home opener where the organization handed out 'New Traditions' t-shirts. But Javale McGee is showing signs of that consistent progress we've discussed, Nick Young looks like pre-injury Nick Young, Chris Singleton is as advertised, and Ronny Turiaf has finally given Flip a tenable substitute when Javale needs a breather/reminder.

So what do you do when the guys you're counting on to lead the team stumble? What do you do when they stumble badly? Flip Saunders is riding herd on a lot of young guys driving the athletic-specimen equivalent of supercars while trying to do so as a unit. But this isn't the AAU. It's hard to find the chaos we're witnessing as anything but unacceptable, but it's necessary for our sanity to know what we're complaining about which means defining the problem more clearly.

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The Nature of Luck

'Fortune favors the prepared', 'Luck is preparation meeting opportunity', pick your cliche. Add up a drastically shortened training camp with lion's share of the team coming off injuries, acclimating rookies, getting last season's rhythm back while making sophomore strides and it's hard to see how the team was going to enter the season any kind of prepared. That first quarter against the Nets was not a mirage, and is the kind of flash that tells us what this team can be.

Flip also has nothing to do with roster balance. Once Jan Vesely and Maurice Evans are ready to step onto the floor...well, let's just say fan favorite Trevor Booker has logged only 14 minutes of court time and if Rashard Lewis slides to the 4 with Chris Singleton's play demanding attention...that and Kevin Seraphin sightings will rank up there with those of the Yeti. But Ronny Turiaf's commendable play has a lot more to do with that particular score. This team has to prepare by learning on the battlefield and they're going to get better as they do.

On Plant Husbandry

Specifically, on the art of pruning. The practice of pruning is predicated on the removal of spent buds, dead branches, etc. to ensure the overall health of the plant. The most conclusive measure of this in the NBA is in minutes played. So what does the game log look like for the Wizards this early in the year?

Flip is still playing John Wall too much. Aside from that, only Andray Blatche is averaging more than 30 minutes a game and we'll see how long that continues with his play being what it is thus far, and not to further mention his off-the-court antics. 'Back-ups' Nick Young and Chris Singleton are pushing for starting spots, five players are logging twenty minutes or more (with Turiaf logging nineteen) which means we're looking at an eight player rotation.

This is probably where we want better from Flip. Trevor Booker needs more than scraps. A more prominent role for Booker T, moving CSing and SwagyP into the starting lineup while reducing AB's and JC's time would go a long way towards reinforcing his credibility. But so far, maybe he's done better than we first thought.

Harder Decisions Ahead

Even so, the metaphor of roster balance versus plant husbandry is going to take on more tension. As the season progresses, Flip is going to face a difficult scenario, if an anticipated one. Rebuilding in the NBA, absent a glut of superstars, requires a significant influx of talented youth, at most if not all positions. Often multiple players at the same position.

This is also where planning for luck comes back into play. Multiple chances at each position increases the odds you find an NBA-caliber player. The problem is that the issue isn't that simple. From a gardeninig perspective, you seed your plants too close together and you can choke them out. Not enough room and your seedlings either die (fall out of the league) or you've stunted their growth and they never reach their potential.

The question is which players are earning the room to grow based on what they're showing. And this is precisely what makes fielding a cohesive team so difficult this year, survival of the fittest, eh? Some players don't get the chance to show, some players try to show too much and some continue along in high profile simply because of the size of their contract.

The only course of action that is inexcusable is maintaining the status quo. That jeopordizes the health of the entire team. But if Flip can maintain the relative evenhandedness (with respect to playing time) he showed against the Hawks, take a deep breath and inch back from the ledge. Though even if he does create and sustain the ideal environment for growth, more than a few of us may end up looking to Ernie Grunfeld to ease roster congestion. But however this team has been put together, it is Flip's job to get this garden blooming and doling out playing time on a balanced basis is the right step to take.

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Pruning

Made some great points on minutes played.

For example, I couldn’t figure out why Seraphin didn’t come in until so late in the game against Atlanta. Need to find him some consistent time in each game, even if it is only for a couple minute stretches totalling 5-10 minutes or so a game.

Splitting up minutes more also should help a lot in the long run of the season. Trying to save some of the wear and tear with so many games over short periods of time.

by japhy on Dec 30, 2011 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

imho, it's gotta be that Flip likes Turiaf much more

Ronnie has played really well and gives us a better chance to win (in flip’s estimation, which is all that counts) so Turiaf plays and Seraphin sits. Simple as that

by DCrez on Dec 30, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll get his chances.

He’ll get his stretches of PT. He’s a raw big man going into his second season; we have to keep that in mind. There’s no clock ticking.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Seraphin’s got plenty of time, if for no other reason than his guaranteed contract, heh

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 30, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yes there is

he’s a 1st round pick that Ernie traded for to acquire, he’s makes guaranteed money and there is a team option after next season. He is not a late 2nd rounder who is neither here nor there, he is a guy that was/is expected to become a solid rotation player

by DCrez on Dec 30, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And nothing has happened to change that expectation.

When offseason 2013 rolls around, make the roster decision that makes sense. Its as simple as that. There’s no reason to perpetually keep living in draft day.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Free Hamady

how does another year glued to a chair help his development? Unless you want think he might learn to really fit into that MINI.

by dmor20 on Dec 30, 2011 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

he's not any good

he’ll get cut sooner or later

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by adamvolo on Dec 30, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Since he's 7 feet tall, I assume he can dunk

Since defense is supposed to be his specialty and he had difficulty getting on the floor before Ronny was here…make or break for him.

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 30, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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make or break for him this year, unless they value him that much as a practice body

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 30, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Well unless there's some pressing need to upgrade the 14th or 15th roster spot,

I don’t see it as a matter of needing to make or break anything. You can’t teach height, and that is reason enough to keep him at the end of the bench next year too.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Make or break as far as

Flip trusting him to take over back-up big man duties over the 2-3 seasons after this one. H’s progress (or lack of ) most likely will impact free agent strategy. So I see make or break in the context of his career arc in DC

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 30, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There is this overarching assumption that fans tend to have.

Its that the only development happening is the development we get to witness. He’ll get some stretches of PT over the course of the season to show (the coaching staff and the fans) his progression (which otherwise only the coaching staff gets to see) against live competition.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Vesley is out and still Trev barely plays....not a good sign?

Have they made a decision on Booker after just one season, a season in which we were all very happy with what he did?

basically, wtf is wrong with Flip (and Ern) that Dray is the ONE player immune from the bench?

by DCrez on Dec 30, 2011 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

Andray Blatche: Too Big to Fail

I don’t think the organization has a plan B in regards to Dray. Too many people in the organization will be embarrassed if he doesn’t succeed.

Every body need to shut up

by djnnnou on Dec 30, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd!

mainly for your tag line.
but seriously – this team has no other true power forwards who can push andray. and he needs to be pushed to find that extra motivation. lots of 3/4 tweeners does not equal true competition.

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Dec 30, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah well people tend to forget how hard it is to upgrade the PF position.

Just consider that if, at any point, an upgrade was available to us, we would have made it. Given that, I find it a bit of a stretch to think that we keep running Dray out there because we don’t want to upgrade the position or that there’s some sort of nostalgia floating around the organization involving the second round of the 2005 NBA draft.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe Trevor Booker is an upgrade, or perhaps Kevin Seraphin

Ronnie Turiaf looks like an upgrade at PF right now, but’s Dray who gets all the minutes

by DCrez on Dec 30, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Booker is all hustle and no offensive game. Which works until the rest of the league figures that out.

He’s also height-challenged. He’s great in a backup role, but as a full time starter he’d be a liability after a while.

Seraphin is a center. He’d be out of place at PF.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not so much about individuals

I believe a good 5-man starting unit can be found on the team which doesn’t’ include Dray. He doesn’t complement Mcgee, and would be better served coming off the bench when more of the offense could be run through him. His ego probably can’t handle that though, and it doesn’t help that Flip has made coming off the bench look like a form of punishment with all his mom threats about sitting his starters.

Every body need to shut up

by djnnnou on Dec 30, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If that's true

Then bye-bye success, for as long as he’s entitled to his starting/“leadership” role.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 2:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Dreys not immune

Drey’s a flexible tool for Flip. Once they figure out what they have Drey’s minutes will adjust. Flip seems to be running Drey and Wall pretty hard on the clock, might be forcing them to get their legs under them faster that the rest of the team.

This shortened season and “camp” has thrown our wiz kids, Flip included, into the full court, full speed abyss quite quick. Maybe he’s showing those two the facts that if you want to lead you better have the legs to lead. He’s seeing what he has in the the other rotations.

My guess is we’ll see AB’s time diminish as the other pieces show themselves over the course of the year.

I personally would like to see more of Mack in a tight rotation (like 3 out of 12 minutes) with Wall. Flip needs to find a tempo that they both can handle to establish a tempo for the big men to play to. Nobody can play at the tempo Wall is setting, He needs to gear down so people can catch up to him. Mack can help there.

by DCPerspective on Dec 30, 2011 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Distribution of Minutes

Flip’s distribution of minutes is definitely what has torn me up over the last two years. The only player that deserves 30 mpg is Wall, with no other player seeing more than 25 mpg (McGee, Blatche, Singleton, and NY). The rest of the team is made up of energy/hustle types. Guys like Crawford, Book, Lewis (declining vet), Vesely, etc.. are best used in shorter, “give it all you’ve got” minutes, typically between 15-20 mpg. This team lacks skill, therefore they need to make it up with “hustle” and winning the battles for the 50/50 balls.

Personally, I’d like to see what Wall, NY, Sing, Book, and McGee could do on the court together. I’ve yet to see Flip trying to find a cohesive group on the court, typically he’s got his starters in or his 2nd team, but I want to see him get more creative with different lineups.

For example, I’d be interested to see how many minutes Wall and NY have logged together. Here you’ve got Wall with no options to pass the ball to with the current starting five, thus he’s forcing shots and constantly attacking the rim one on three. Yet you have NY who has been shooting the ball very well to start the season…seems logical to pair them up to me?

Players like Crawford, NY, Lewis, and Blatche need to shoot the ball to be effective. I’d like to see Crawford coming off the bench, where he can handle the ball and create, running with Lewis where he can get on the block or stay on the perimeter depending on the match up and the other forward (Singleton, Booker, Vesely, or Evans).

Bottom line: “Luck” as was mentioned, will be vital for the franchise. A lucky bounce of the balls at the lottery and a top 2 pick netting either Davis or Drummond could be the only hope right now in all honesty.

by SpecialSauce on Dec 30, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This is the season for experimentation

so I don’t see the problem with Flip trying this line up out for a couple games.

by ccrun1800 on Dec 30, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs the ball in his hands...otherwise, he gets an itchy trigger

finger….

I like a small speed lineup with JW, JC, NY when we need to score quickly….but otherwise, I am sticking with my point of view from last year….JC comes off the bench as NY’s back up first, and then stays in as the PG when Wall comes out. If Wall is in early foul trouble, bring JC in for him. I know that would shut down Mack’s time, but I think that is our best early game rotation, and then you stick with all three if they are hot, otherwise determine JC’s minutes based on the game he and Nick are having and the foul situation.

I see JC as more of a Westbrook Rose type PG more than a SG. His size and stroke make playing him at SG for extended mins difficult to justify in my book.

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep Nick Young on the bench for 23 minutes a game

and enjoy games in the 80s….

I don’t care how much one likes or dislikes Nick Young, but to say sit your only scorer for half the game because….because….well I have no clue as to why….but to say sit your only pure scorer for half the game seems like the oddest basketball strategy I have ever heard…

Fortunately Flip Saunders isn’t that crazy…

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick is a Point per Minute Guy

BUT…That only works in short spurts. Nick can get real hot and carry the team for a stretch, but like any shooter he can also get icey. 25 mpg!

by SpecialSauce on Dec 30, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

And who scores when he is on the bench? Cold or not?

Where are you planning on getting points from?

You play with the team you have, not the one you wish you had. Keep putting a team on the floor with no legitimate deep threat, and lets see how far we get.

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Crawford/NY

Nick is a shooting guard.

Crawford is a creator.

Crawford can create when he has the ball in his hands.

by SpecialSauce on Dec 30, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

As of right now, that idea isn't panning out so well...

TBH, if it was my decision to make, I’d give Nick about 38MPG. Our number one problem these first two games has been finding something that works on offense, especially when team play and ball movement inevitably die. Crawford, so far, has been part of the problem (and like DavidDunn alluded, you’re talking about him as if he’s the player you want him to be, not the player he is). Young has been part of the solution.

Its not far removed from lunacy to keep your best offensive player on the bench when you’re struggling on offense.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Last two games

Crawford’s shooting % and shot selection have been terrible. If he fixes the second, maybe he’ll fix the first.

It’s a real disappointment for people who were hoping his moxy and intensity would be coupled with some maturity. It hasn’t.

Right now, he needs some time on the bench, even if Nick Young wasn’t playing lights out basketball.

by GJennings on Dec 30, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree

but Flips leaving him in though. I hope flip knows what he’s doing. Can’t assume that though.

by DCPerspective on Dec 30, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

I like the lineup SpecialSauce brings up

Wall, Young, Singleton, Booker, McGee

I would like to see the offense run through McGee with that lineup with kickout options of Young and Singleton and Booker scrapping for offensive rebounds that are bound to come from missed layups from Wall and McGee. Defensively, having Singleton on the floor helps, but I think of the players on roster this lineup would be balanced.

Having Crawford, Lewis, and Blatche coming off the bench would give instant scoring going against tired players or the opponents second unit. Mix in those players with Turiaf, Mack, Seraphin, Vesely who don’t add too much offensively.

by DaGribb on Dec 30, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

that lineup sounds good to me

i really wish there could be a week where flip commits to that. no betting on it though

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Dec 30, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Still weak rebounding

But probably our best lineup. At least our best “effort” lineup. And Wall is developing way more on the court playing with these guys rather than Blatche and Lewis.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 2:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I think the better lineup has Turiaf at 4 instead of Booker....

Booker adds a speed element, but Turiaf provides some veteran leadership in that line up.

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Booker

Has more upside and needs PT. They invested the 23rd pick (traded up) for him. You gotta see what he can do.

by SpecialSauce on Dec 30, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting PT is different than our "best" lineup

See the post above….

He can get PT without being on the crunch time lineup…

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said "best" lineup

In my comment above, I just said I’d like to see Wall, NY, Sing, Book, McGee on the court together. i think it’s a good combination of talents…simple as that.

by SpecialSauce on Dec 30, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

While you two spent your time with that

You could both look below where I said, maybe I should say it is my most favorable lineup. Best is highly debatable all around.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that...I even replied to you...

the point is for some reason SpecialSauce has not caught on that I replied to your comment, not his or hers…

I have been trying to drop hints for 30 min….but apparently I need to be more explicit…

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

hey genius

swagger said that not specialsauce

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 30, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey super genius...that was the comment I replied

to….not SpecialSauces….try clinking and following the links…

If you are going to jump in sight unseen….maybe you should keep up?

Just a thought…

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah you got it under control

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

DavidDunn

Quotes can be taken out of context. Perhaps I had such a hard time finding “best lineup”, because it was immediately followed by “best effort lineup” which is what the poster was actually implying.

Regardless of “he said, he said”. I’d really like to see Flip get more creative with the lineups, it’s only going to get trickier once Vesely and Evans return.

by SpecialSauce on Dec 30, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I should say its my most favorable lineup

I don’t care if Turiaf gets another minute the rest of the year, if that means Booker gets to play.

Booker showed me he might be a legit NBA player, last year. We’ll never know that for sure if he’s buried on the bench.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 3:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

And he is still a project a little bit

But its not like he’s not cut out to be on an NBA court. He’s not one of those players that it actually is hurting other players (like Wall) development because they don’t know where to be on the court or what to do with the ball. It’s not like he’s overmatched so he just shouldn’t be out there.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 3:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I like that line up if we are just in project mode

but Booker has not show he is prepared to be a major minute guy….he is much better in short spurts…especially until he gets his foul situation under control,..

by DavidDunn on Dec 30, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Its a team wide problem right now

Booker had his back to the basket and he has a turn around shot he passes over to make a pass. They are all doing it. Sometimes you just have to shoot the damn ball.

by hambonejackson on Dec 30, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

this team is sooo bad

at getting people the ball in good positions.

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Dec 30, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Don’t say it too loud though.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Flip's comments after the Atlanta game

Flip paid several players such as Singleton, Turiaf and Lewis with compliments after the Atlanta game. He lumped McGee with Blatche for negative feedback. McGee had 15 points on 7 for 11 shooting in 27 minutes with 12 rebounds.

As you say, it helps " to know what we’re complaining about which means defining the problem more clearly".

The problem was Blatche and Crawford.

by Izman on Dec 30, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

I have been on this board for a couple years

and I swear I have never seen it so volatile. This team has played all of 4 games together and some people are talking as if decision have been made on certain players. Flip is still trying to figure this out believe me.

I know a couple of people have said this before but what we are watching is summer league/pre-season. With a shorten pre-season and the complete lack of veteran leaders in our line up only means that we will look sloppy and disorganized for some time to come.

Just a word of caution for the future. Everyone talks up Sam Presti for building OKC into a contender. Don’t get me wrong he has made a couple shrewd moves but that team sucked until it drafted KD with the second pick of the draft. Teams are built through the draft. Final pieces are added via free agency and trades. Us being as bad as we are now does two things. It shows who is committed to the cause win or lose. It also ensures EG has his choice of the outstanding talent that is going to be up for grabs in the ’12 draft.

by ccrun1800 on Dec 30, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah... insanity.

When obnoxious expectations meet realistically poor play.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 2:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

i have low expectations for this team

and yes, only 2 games. but other than some season-ending injury, it’s hard to think of a worse way to open the season – big collapse at home, then road blowout. throw in some internal sniping, blatche living up to the worst of impressions about him, and i understand the premature panic.

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Dec 30, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it could be worse.

Wall 13, 8, and 5. 20, 2, and 6.

McGee 11 and 6. then 15 and 12 with NOTICEABLE improvement and some added bulk.

We were up 20 opening night.

So, many people saying their “realistic” actually are, are lying to themselves. This year again, was a year for individual improvement, not team victories.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 3:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

i get it - but just to be devils advocate

wall’s shooting % is turrible, his turnovers are still high, he’s not finishing at the rim.
mcgee is still way too rushed on offense to be consistent, his defensive decision-making is not good (i saw him run out on ball handlers several times vs. ATL, who promptly drove right past him and finished at the now-unguarded rim, plus the goal-tending).
so some of this stuff is subjective. i think it’s better when a little improvement from individuals is accompanied by some overall team improvement.
maybe it will come. it’s just hard to envision right now, especially with dray and shard entrenched as starters.

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Dec 30, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It is subjective with Javale.

Because that improvement has been there. But it has also been same old, in the small sample size. Especially on those run outs you’re talking about. I’ve seen that a few times too already. In all, this is the best I have seen Javale play though.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not keep the status quo? I see progress

I don’t think Blatche is playing any where near as badly as everyone wants to believe. I don’t think the team is playing badly. They are playing like young players on a young team. I view many of their mistakes as made by inexperienced players. What I really see is a team. Unlike last season. I see them as a much better team and I think playing experience will correct many of their mistakes.The Hawks are a tough matchup for them, especially as the 2nd game of the season.
Blatche still gets frustrated when he struggles to score so he travels. McGee throws up a McGoo outlet pass that turns in to a McGee goal tend because he is mad at himself. They just have to get over these things and keep on playing.

by hambonejackson on Dec 30, 2011 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

They are playing like young players on a young team.

without an offseason or training camp.

Anyway, you’re not allowed to stop people from piling on Blatche the same week he tells fans to shut up. Next week you can go back to your regularly scheduled program, but he gets no reprieve this week… And that’s coming from a guy who really really wants to see him succeed.

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I generally don't read player tweets

and people can pile on all they want to because I just watch the games. I look for any improvement and I see it. I’ll vilify how a player plays. I don’t care what they say after the game.

by hambonejackson on Dec 30, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

amen.

tweets are not news.

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Dec 30, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you're mostly preaching to the choir,

but for me, he crossed a line the other day. Not the first time, and I’ll continue to hold out hope that its the last time, but I applaud your ability to block this particular offense out. I can (and do) in most situations, but no matter how much your fans boo in your ear, you can’t tell them to shut up.

Oh, and my comment was intended to be tongue in cheek. I didn’t really mean it when I said that you’re not allowed to support Blatche…

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he's been obnoxious on Twitter in the past.

Comments to haggling fans like. “Shut up, you’re poor. I’m rich.”

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 3:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah that just kills me.

Because at the end of the day, the guy you’re telling to shut up is the guy paying your paycheck.

But in reference to that particular outburst, wasn’t that the one where he said his twitter got hacked? After this latest incident, I don’t know if I’m still inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one…

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohh I didn't even know it was publicized like that

I just spent one day going like way back on his timeline reading his tweets, and I read that. And yeah you’d think if you were hacked you’d go back and delete the things you didnt actually tweet.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 5:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Wait

You spent a day doing what? Have a life much? Lol j/k

by jones-y on Dec 30, 2011 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah of all the people on Twitter I picked him too...

No explanation.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 31, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

McGee wants more touches.

Young wants to freelance more. Wall is telling everyone who he approves of in the draft. They all have an opinion. Is it really news? My family are Caps fanatics and gossip about who players are dating. Thats how well they know the Caps players. Is it news? Only if it interests you. I don’t care who is doing what off the floor unless they are being arrested or suspended for it.

by hambonejackson on Dec 30, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

I guarantee Wall wasn’t saying, “Hey Ernie, draft that skinny Czech guy,” last year.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Dec 30, 2011 2:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Trade Blatche

This team needs to trade one of their 3 real assets (being Wall, Blatche, McGee). Blatche is 25 and still doesn’t get it. He isn’t really a “banger” and he isn’t a threat from outside of the paint, either. He just kind of manages to put up statistics. He is none of the following: star, role-player, leader, winner. Let’s send him packing to a team in either desperate need of a PF or a team that thinks they can make it all click with him. The team chemistry will improve, Booker will get more touches, they’ll play smarter, there will be less knuckle-headedness.

He is the epitome of a “change of scenery” guy, IMO. Do the Wiz really think he’s going to turn into some star PF at this point? I don’t see it.

by dan the man on Dec 30, 2011 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Can we really trade him though?

It takes two to tango. If it’s so obvious to us, the casual (or not-so-casual) fans that Dre is (pick one: a cancer, a loser, a waste of talent, just plain bad) – don’t you think it would be obvious to professional talent evaluators? And entering a time when cheap, controllable talent will become even more at a premium with the impending changes to the luxury tax structure, are teams going to be willing to even sacrifice a 2nd round pick for a guy who is going to be making 6-8M/yr but the team won’t be able to count on for much of anything?

If we CAN trade him, I would do it in a heartbeat just so we can move on and see what the rest of the roster holds. It seems clear that as long as Flip is the coach and Dre is on the team, Dre will get significant minutes. This means that we are going to have a difficult time finding enough PT for the other guys we drafted (Ves, Singleton, Booker, Seraphin) to really know what we have on our hands. Ultimately, though, I think we’re going to have a hard time finding an “acceptable” trade for Ernie to move Dre. With all that we’ve invested (time and money) in Dre, Ernie is going to want something of real value, even though such value may actuallh be found rotting on our bench.

by jakenbake on Dec 31, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

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