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Nets Vs. Wizards Recap: Deron Williams Outplays John Wall, Washington Blows Big Lead In 90-84 Loss

Welp, that didn't go exactly as planned. The Wizards were on fire early, dismantling the Nets on their home court. They led, 36-12, at one point and looked ready to run away with the game. Instead, the Nets fought back to a single-digit halftime deficit, made their move to tie the game in the third quarter, erased an eight-point fourth-quarter deficit and eventually sealed it at the end. Deron Williams completely outplayed John Wall on both ends of the floor, with Wall struggling mightily on both ends of the floor and down the stretch.

The Wizards are now left to wonder how they allowed all of that to happen against a team not expected to be very good. My notes on the game as it happened. It went from good to bad real quick.

  • You can tell the Nets wanted to make Wall work early. They ran Williams into the post on the first posession, then ran him off a bunch of screens on their third possession. Both times, Wall stayed with him. He went in front of Williams to intercept a post entry pass the Nets' first possession, then forced the Nets to look for another option on the other, which resulted in a turnover and a secondary break dunk for JaVale McGee. Williams managed to shake Wall on the ball for a couple open looks, but off the ball, Wall was right there. At least he was in the beginning. Things would change quickly.
  • McGee got off to a really sharp start. He was active on the boards and was very good with his weakside defense. On one play, Andray Blatche went to double team Williams, and Kris Humphries dove down the lane for what seemed like an easy shot. Instead, McGee came over and stuck his arms straight up, allowing Blatche to recover for the block.
  • Jordan Crawford let Anthony Morrow get free for a couple good looks early and was lucky Morrow missed them. On the bright side, he did a nice job running out for transition points, which is one way he'll need to score. If the big men can rebound, then Crawford can leak out and get more of these points in transition.
  • Ronny Turiaf is such a smart offensive player. He showed off his superior court vision and understanding of the game with two nice passes to set up dunks for Blatche. More impressively, though, he knew exactly who to rotate the ball to on the weakside to keep the play moving.
  • Avery Johnson talked before the game about sending five guys back to prevent John Wall from getting easy opportunities in transition. It certainly didn't work in the first quarter. Wall got free for a breathtaking drive where he cut left just before New Jersey's big men rushed back, then finished anyway with a tough right-handed layup.
  • Nick Young came off the bench and was very, very good. He looked to pass off curls, which is more than we could say last season, and he moved with a purpose on his cuts. When he got the ball in isolation situations, he abused Marshon Brooks with a series of refined jab steps to get to his spots. He did force a couple shots late in his stint, which is probably why he was replaced just before the six-minute mark.
  • Nice job by Flip Saunders and the coaching staff coming up with a game plan to confuse New Jersey's offense. It'd be easy to say the Nets just missed a lot of shots they should make, and they did. But the Wizards also induced that kind of panic with hard double teams in the post and very, very quick rotations. That appears to have been the Wizards' gameplan, and it worked really well early in the second quarter.
  • Some sloppy play allowed the Nets to get back into the game. Wall turned it over in the backcourt, allowing Sundiata Gaines to steal it and go in for a layup. On the free throw, nobody boxed out Humphries, and the Nets got another score. Then, Crawford made a poor decision, calling the same pick and roll to the baseline that the Nets cut off earlier. Petro stepped out and forced the offensive foul. Finally, Blatche got into it with Humphries on the kind of play from which he just needs to walk away.
  • Interesting to see Jordan Crawford take a few possessions guarding Deron Williams, even with Wall in the game. The results were better than I expected.
  • Washington's lack of cohesion in the half-court hurt them at the end of the half. Needing a play to help put some distance back between them and the Nets, they couldn't figure out a go-to set that could reliably get them a bucket. This is partly because of personnel, but it also speaks to the claims made earlier in the preseason that an offensive pecking order hadn't yet been established.
  • After the Nets' transition defense was bad in the first half, the Wizards' transition defense was poor early in the second half. The Nets were able to get an easy layup off an offensive rebound when nobody covered for Rashard Lewis' man in transition after Lewis hit a tough layup on the other end. Communication needs to improve.
  • Wall's perimeter defense really is becoming problematic. When the Nets involved Williams in a pick and roll, Wall trailed behind Williams in a weird zig-zag too often, putting the Wizards' bigs in a tough spot. Wall needs to recover far quicker, and running back to Williams in a straight line is a good start. Williams took advantage of Wall's poor technique and scored at will early in the third quarter to bring the Nets back. It was bad enough that Young was immediately put on Williams as soon as he checked in.
  • Blatche looked a bit tired late in the third quarter and it looked like he may have asked himself out of the game. He fumbled an offensive rebound at one point, which led to another run-out. Trevor Booker entered for him, but probably should have come in sooner. Humphries really outplayed Blatche in the third quarter, sliding into open spaces and being a factor on thee glass.
  • Turiaf once again came in and did his thing in the third quarter, taking two key charges. The problem is that playing him and Booker together hurts your floor spacing, but the defense added is enough to try the combination more.
  • Chris Singleton and Roger Mason, along with Turiaf, provided a big spark early in the fourth quarter. Both moved their feet well on defense and ran to the three-point line on a key sequence when Mason ended up hitting a long two. Those three did a really nice job picking the defensive intensity early in the fourth quarter.
  • In light of that, I thought the Wizards went back to the starting frontcourt too soon. I think Saunders needed to give Wall a break (he played the whole third quarter) and was concerned about having no offensive threats in the game. A Shelvin Mack-Mason-Singleton-Booker-Turiaf frontcourt isn't scoring any points, and you can't trot that lineup out. Instead, Saunders probably should have sat Wall in the third quarter when he was struggling to prevent this problem from happening.
  • McGee did a pretty poor job closing out on Petro, then didn't even look for the pass on a pick and roll. He also let Petro sneak inside of him for a key offensive rebound to give the Nets the lead. These are the kinds of plays that drive Saunders crazy. Not surprisingly, Turiaf replaced him with four and a half minutes to play.
  • The Wizards' offense really stagnated midway through the fourth quarter. Good thing Young was hitting some tough shots.
  • Washington's inability to rebound was a huge reason they lost/game was this close. New Jersey outrebounded them 56-39. Part of this is poor work from the Wizards' big men, but part of it was also because the guards leaked out looking for layups. Also, the Wizards were forced to rotate for poor perimeter defense by the guards too often.
  • No matter who was on Williams, the Wizards' inability to guard the pick and roll was decisive.
  • At the end of the day, the biggest reason the Wizards lost, sadly, was Wall. He was just 3-12 from the field and got completely outplayed by Williams. He didn't look like himself driving to the basket, and he didn't create good opportunities for his teammates after the first quarter. He didn't hit his free throws either, and he was so bad on defense that Singleton, a rookie playing his first game, guarded Williams down the stretch. Wall's inefficient play from both ends of the floor carried over from the preseason, and that's a major, major problem. It's still early, but he needs to recapture the spark he provided in the first month of his career and over the summer.
  • On the final decisive play on the game, Wall missed a wide-open Crawford on the left wing in transition. A simple pass would have created an open three for the tie. Instead, Wall drove on multiple defenders and tried a crosscourt jump pass that was easily intercepted

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Same old story

-Missed FTs
-Outworked on the boards
-Can’t keep pace without a consistent scoring threat

Happy fuckin New Year

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Dec 26, 2011 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

How about that motley crew of New Jersey , huh ?

Hump – 21 pts , 16 rebounds
DJ Hustle – 14 rebounds
Morrow – clutch sniping in the 4th
Gaines – tough as nails
Petro – no words for what just transpired on the basketball court

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by strange-brew on Dec 26, 2011 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

Great numbers

still motley, will be even more when D-Will peaces out. Good win for you guys

by KurisuDevil on Dec 26, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Flip

I dont know what else Singleton has to do, or what else Lewis has to suck at for us not to start Singleton

by hibachi202 on Dec 26, 2011 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

John Wall's goals this year

Improve shooting percentage: 3-13
Lower Turnovers: 4

Let the learning process begin… He better learn to slow down, or that amazing speed will just be a wasted ability

by gray16 on Dec 26, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Wall was 7-13 from the FREE throw line

Why am I getting Kwame Brown flash backs here?

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Dec 26, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Wall has regressed.

Blatche is still lazy on defense.
Lewis moves like a fossil.
The Wizards will lose many, many games this season.

by Bassanova on Dec 26, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

One game and he has regressed...

The phrase “too small of a sample size” can’t be used enough.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree on some points

People are checking into “insane town” tonight in their criticism of Wall. I think it’s crazy. Also, I think we should be excited about what Singleton and Mack showed.

However, for some of the complaints, the sample size is not “small.” AB is lazy. McGee, Young, and Crawford take a lot of shots outside of the system/play selfish ball. These are habits that need to be broken.

All and all, I’m not as upset with tonight’s game as most people. We lost, but there were areas that looked good. Our team has 3 problems, rebounding, 3 pt shooting, and trust. I think we can correct trust with time, and rebounding with stricter accountability in our front court rotation. However, we don’t have much in terms of 3 shooting, so we’re going to be dealing with that all year.

by GJennings on Dec 26, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh

I forgot when Nick Young dribbles the air out of the ball and has to take a last second shot, it’s okay. People need to be a lot more sane about NY. He’s either the worst player ever or a step away from being MJ.

Nick Young didn’t have a bad game, but he, though less than Crawford, was a bit out of control. He was one of our better shooters, and we need to give him significantly playing time given our lack of deep shooters. Nevertheless, he overdribbled a few times and needed to swing the ball more.

by GJennings on Dec 26, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

I didn’t call him MJ or anyone near him. I said he took one shot out of the system.

You then respond saying he dribbled too much. Huh?

My point was, which you seemed to confirm with your response, is why are you conflating four players instead of critiquing each?

On your new issue, I saw a bad shot….and I saw the play where he dribbled a bit too much before ultimately passing. That doesn’t constitute an out of control player or a selfish player.

he shot 6 for 9 and scored 16 in 18 min. And he looked to pass. And came back in the game hurt. And the result is being viewed as selfish and out of the system.

interesting analysis,,

by DavidDunn on Dec 26, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you think you're winning the argument.

Given the snarky dots at the end of your post. I’m not sure why?

Making shots and working within the system are not the same thing. There were several times where Nick Young took the ball, dribbled around for a while, and then launched a shot. While there may have been an isolation play called on some of them, given the lack of a clear out, I think it’s unlikely. Good basketball involves crisp ball movement. When one player dribbles the air out of the ball, Earl Watson style, he is playing outside the system. When he takes a shot resulting from the play, it is a shot outside the system. Not a single Nick Young basket was triggered by an assist. Why? Because he was dribbling the air of the basketball. He reverted from the catch-and-shoot tendencies last season. So yes, Nick Young was playing outside the system. (Granted, this is one game, so let’s not turn it into the end of the world).

As for why I applied it to 4 players, I think it’s because it applies to all of them. I thought Crawford was the worst offender, but all of them. They were all black holes to some extent though.

As for the looking to pass.. 0 assists so I don’t think you can make that claim too strongly. He did have one inadvertent ally opp attempt to Wall on the break. Nevertheless, he was better at moving the ball than he has previously been.

0 Assist produced and 0 assists triggered suggests a player wasn’t playing within the system. 6-9 suggests he’s a good shooter.

Nice Snark…

by GJennings on Dec 27, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also

The reason I mentioned all 4 players was because their play warranted it. The Wizards had the lowest assist total for a game of any NBA team playing tonight. Lots of black hole basketball tonight.

by GJennings on Dec 27, 2011 2:05 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Those plays are run for Nick

We would all love him to get 5 assists but it’s just not his game… When we have Nick running around screens.. that is our offense for that possession… and I’m sure Flip tells him if your open shoot it or if you can get open off the dribble that’s a good shot for us. I wish there was more to his game b/c he would be a star but his role is to score and we really need it in the half court. I loved the play where Nick came off a screen near the elbow.. Wall gave it to him and cut to the basketball, Nick then passed it to Wall and got fouled… very nice wrinkle off running screens for Nick by Flip. You just can’t go off someone’s assist stats and say he is not playing within the offense and he was 6-9 which suggests he took good shots within the plays that were run for him

by koop1122 on Dec 27, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

wow....calling Nick Young's game tonight

blackhole basketballl…???

smh..

I will simply leave it to others to evaluate the validity of that statement, but I think you are engaging in unnecessary hyperbole.

by DavidDunn on Dec 27, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

we will agree to disagree...

there were not many times where he just started dribbling into oblivion…sorry….

Passing….just because players missed shots doesn’t mean he wasn’t looking to pass…he had at least 4 assists that were lost by missed shots…now he isn’t the greatest passer, so some of that is his fault, but it wasn’t because he was being selfish.

We are not running the Princeton offense where putting the ball on the ground means you are "doing it wrong’. Dribbling to a spot and then passing is not a visceral sin. Would I love to see a passing show…sure…but that isn’t this offense in full.

He is the primary scoring threat, which you seem to be discounting. But yet he was not coming down chucking when we touched the ball. He was put in immediately coming out of the locker room. I would bet dollars to doughnut that Flip would vehemently disagree with your analysis. All of the tape points to a different story.

McGee and Crawford were benched for what was selfishness and rushed shots at times. We agree there. But this was not the game to use as a example to put Young in that category. You seem to be looking for something that wasn’t there.

Btw -look at the game thread. I have no issue calling NY out and I think he and Crawford can co-exist. I am simply pointing out that I think calling him out of control, selfish, and playing out of the system is heavily misguided for this specific game.

by DavidDunn on Dec 27, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh no, I was referring to the comment on Wall and on our season.

I should have been much clearer. Blatche had a down year last year, but he still shouldn’t be a starter even if he rebounds, and Lewis is awful. And I agree that our young players actually looked good, and we have yet to see Vesely play(I have higher hopes for him than most).

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Dec 26, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I called it last year

Wall isnt a franchise player
-cant drive
-cant finish
-still cant shoot
- hops are AVERAGE
- turnover prone
-lacks elite vision
-no lateral movement!
- clumsy while driving
-center of gravity is too high
-cant guard
Pros
He’s fast in a straight line
Hes tall.

Not hating just saying what ive seen since he played at Kentucky. Hasnt improved much in any of his aspects

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 9:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think

Brandon Knight will be better

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And you're basing that on what?

Because any person who watched both of them in college would not say that

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by adamvolo on Dec 26, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I have seen enough of both

Knight needed another year of college, I just like the kids game, he can shoot, really quick, and is pass first.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn't pass first

the only thing he has on Wall is shooting

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by adamvolo on Dec 27, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Hops are average?

Now you’ve lost credibility. Lol, clearly you didnt see any summer footage.

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No I did

I honestly didnt see anything amazing. Yes his hops arnt vince carter circa 2000. Dude couldnt even finish a fast break dunk in a preseason game. Im just saying what we’re all thinking. He can be an allstar but never a mvp (atleast with flip )

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 9:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Whatever failures he has

Will not be because of a lack of hops. The kid can behind the back dunk along with all sorts of other crazy dunk contest ish. Its not the hops…

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

what pg other than derrick rose can get up like wall? gtfo of here

by tmoneyttime1 on Dec 27, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He needs discipline

And a strength coach.
He is young and from a bad upbringing. He is working things out. He can ball, give him time.

by spotless on Dec 26, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he has no feel

for the game and his defense is so bad, when it really doesnt have to be

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea why not

He is goin to leave anyways, when his contract is up. I would rather have jordan crawfordor brandon jennings running the point

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Your solution is crawford or jennings at the point... thats going to get us nowhere

I agree and have been saying since last year that Wall has so much to learn and improve on but he’s still REALLY young… he’s not going to be this franchise “superstar” player that everyone thought but just got to hope he matures, learns to play D and we keep improving our roster

by koop1122 on Dec 26, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I would much rather have jennings

Sure I wouldnt like him jackin up threes as much as he does, but I love his defense and he runs the offense

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

How isnt it?

He plays very good defense, has good mid range game, and is a dang good passer/ Remember two years ago with Bogut…He was REAL good. He isnt a superstar but he is a very good player.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

sorry bro, you are wrong on this one…right now he is a better player than wall. Right now In would rather have him than wall, strictly staying in the moment.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Because Brandon Jennings isn't ever going to be a superstar

Wall may not be, but he has way more potential and Jennings is one of the least balanced players. Also he’s one of my favorite players, so i have no bias in saying I’d rather have Wall

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

My point is

Is that Wall just isnt playin ball. He is just putting his head down and going 1 on 3. He isnt trying to improve his game, I see nothing in his game that shows me he is trying to change.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If john wall had 5 championships under his belt

His ‘feel for the game’ would be unquestionable. But he doesn’t, and it isn’t.

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My point is people f up

Wall is smart and pretty mature.
He is just young and needs discipline.

by spotless on Dec 26, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If he had a feel for the game

he would have felt us slipping on offense and as the point guard got us together, worked the ball around and drive and dish. instead drives out of control on three straight possessions and turns the ball over.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

the best players on the league could at this time

ROSE
Lebron
Kobe
GARNETT
HOWARD
GRIFFIN
wade

Caps=1&done or out of high school

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Anytime they wanted?

Bullshit. And Wall is raw. But he has a good head on his shoulders and so much desire. He will be an all star
With a good shot, a superstar

by spotless on Dec 26, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesnt have to dominate

I just want him to play smart. If he is keepin the team accountable for trying hard, h needs to keep himself accountable for playing smart and within himself

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If you guys dont like John Wall

We will gladly take him.

How are you guys saying stuff like that about John Wall. You guys are lucky to have such a talent.

by #1brooklynnetsfan on Dec 26, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want

Him to play smart. He is still stuck in aau mode.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel we’re really really lucky to have him! Don’t let this minority opinion cloud your view of this whole community!

by 8vechkin on Dec 27, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

This "analysis" (and I use that would loosely) portrays you as a dolt

Not hating, just saying what I’ve seen in a poor comment.

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by adamvolo on Dec 26, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn

I knew not having that new logo up would come back to haunt us !!!!

by DCPerspective on Dec 26, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

I'm not going to think of something extra witty or clever to say, I don't want to convince you to see things my way, I just have 2 words for you: JEREMY LAMB

by qthaballa on Dec 26, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Humphries dropped 21 and 16

On our court?? On our damn court?!? Im gonna go throw up now. Opening the season like this is disrespectful to anyone that has ever been associated with the wizards. Even javaris crittenton is offended

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 9:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

No he didnt

Not numbers like THAT

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

True. But he finished strong before he got injured last season.

In February last season – 14.2 pts , 14.8 rebounds , 1.7 blocks.

He was right around double-double production the previous 2 months playing in only 27 minutes per.

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by strange-brew on Dec 26, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats his best month

Not a fair sample as we have seen from Blatche who goes HAM at the end of every season. And it still doesnt explain him dropping 21 in a (moderately) low scoring game. No, no, this ones on the wizarda

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

on that last bullet

while we were oohing and ahhing the summer league highlights..maybe ft shooting was the thing to do….

seems like Wall is backing into non playground bball..

he will get it…. I hope….

he needs to learn another gear

by DavidDunn on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

think Wall let his Summer League and streetball workouts get to him this first game. He didn’t play like this last year. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t pick it up the next game. The kid is just that, a kid, and he’ll learn.

by Tbonebullets on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

They were. We moved the ball superbly, went up by 20

That stopped, they beat us. Pretty much as simple as that

by Max Zamphirescu on Dec 26, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ah, screw Flip. Seriously

Guy is paid $4mill/yr and he cant even coach to protect a huge lead vs one of the league’s worst teams. At some point he needs to look in the mirror and stop blaming everyone else

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a man crush on Wall...

But since the first pre-season game i’ve had this feeling he just really wants to leave. He’s all buddy-buddy with all these stars who keep moving, and he just looks bored. The way he plays is like “F*ck this boring sh*t” I could be wrong, and i hope so because i love him, but shouldn’t he have more ENERGY and EXCITEMENT? He just doesn’t seem into it

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

People, especially young people, can have ruts emotionally

Wall is a fierce competitor. He cares about his game. Stay or go he isn’t going to not try while he is here

by spotless on Dec 26, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine if we hadn't resigned nick young

Actually don’t, you might commit suicide

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 9:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

well...he won't be around next year.....hope we find that pure shooter

in the draft because many here and the front office don’t think he is a core piece…

but while he is here….it seems to me that it would be a pretty good idea to build an offers h can flourish in because it looks like we have zero other permanent scoring threats

by DavidDunn on Dec 26, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

On the plus side, the atmosphere at the Phone Booth was good tonight

The crowd was into it until the game got out of hand.

From the District of Columbia, home of the hyperbolic paraboloid transitional floating zone defense.

by mr. 91 on Dec 26, 2011 9:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Give it some time

A few more losses and the seats will be empty again. I love DC fans. They go really hard (just thinking about the gilbert era playoffs in verizon gives me goosebumps) but they/we don’t respect shitty teams. This isnt golden state, we have morals

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 9:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Super real

Definitely the truth. But the redskins are more of an institution than a team in the DMV area

by Wizards Khalifa on Dec 26, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That was tough to watch

Wall needs to learn when to attack and when not to. Charging into the lane when he doesn’t have the advantage and throwing up a difficult shot doesn’t work. He was expecting to get a call on at least 5 plays tonight and just ended up forcing a difficult shot.

Also the FTs were turriiible

by AFM on Dec 26, 2011 9:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Wall is trying to hard to make a name for himself

He’s putting too much pressure on himself and he isn’t playing his game. He needs to take it down a notch and remember his game, he should be looking to get his teammates good shots.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Dec 26, 2011 9:55 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

this is honestly

The only thing keeping me sane about wall. I could be completely wrong if its true.

But i also feel like wall could be that kid on the football team who had a great 40 and bench press, but just never put it all together.

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he has one spot up shooter...and one semi post threat....

tough slog ahead…

when he said he doesn’t know who the primary option is..maybe he meant I want it to be me..

if so….this was probably a good wake up call….primary threat for now has to be nick and then dray and wall as back up…you go to the season with the team you have…

by the way…does anyone think vessely can help this team at all this season….personally I highly doubt it….looks like singletons will be the real contributor

by DavidDunn on Dec 26, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like bad coaching imo

Wall has the tools to be very good but needs coaching. A good point guard coach would make him a lot better.

Maurice Cheeks taught Westbrook a lot. Someone like Rod Strickland would be a good idea…

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 27, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what Cassell is here for.

Strickland could teach him to eat hot dogs before the game though…

Bullets fan stuck in CO.

by Krusty2 on Dec 27, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Strickland was his coach at KU

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 27, 2011 6:40 AM EST up reply actions  

you never know could be what he needs

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 27, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

a hot dog before the game that is

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 27, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If I was Flip

I’d tie Walls laces together. John has no concept of tempo – especially when he gets worked up competitively.

by DCPerspective on Dec 26, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

or another way to look at it is...

He don’t believe in his teammates so he decides to be Mr.Do It All…Wall has already made a name for himself, but even if he plays lights out he will receive no buzz (especially at the PG position) if we don’t win.

by ATLredskin on Dec 26, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

His teammates won't be making good shots

or will pass them up and try to pass to another guy…. Wall’s playing style is suited for scoring though he has the foundations of great court vision too. I’d rather see him go for 20-25 a night and dish it when his teammates are in a prime position to score..

by thewiz06 on Dec 27, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. He is very much like Westbrook/Harris at that

.
Drible-Drive and either shoot, dish or pass back out. That ánd the one-man fast break was his forté at Kentucky.

Also notice how nobody but Bledsoe (ocassionally) was running with Wall. Orton, Cousins and Patterson are not like McGee and Vesely.

Wall needs good half-court players to run sets for and then good floor spacing for (P&R and Iso’s) for drible-drive penetration. On defense he needs to be play off the ball, not one on one, so he can gamble for steals.

A big like Nene, a guard like Afflalo and a wing man like Caron Butler would have been perfect fits who know how to play the halfcourt situation, can play off of Wall in the drible-drive and can rebound the basketball to ignite the one man freakshow fastbreak. A shooter of the bench like Young would fit great too.

If only such players were available at some point. I’m sure Ernie would go out and get the right players for Wall if they were!

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 27, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Humphries was top 5 in rebounding last yr, a legitimate double-doulble guy

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 27, 2011 7:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

only because he couldn't make kim's butt hammertime longer than two months

he is better than Blatche and McGee at physicality, if not rebounding which is what we need

by thewiz06 on Dec 27, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll get in before massive conclusions are drawn on guys based on one game.

I just didn’t think they played well. I said in the prediction thread I didn;t think this would be a good season.

But tonight several guys played poorly.

Wall was just too frantic he was pressing I don’t think the style the Wizards play plays to wall’s strenght’s too many 1 man fastbreaks. Lewis and Blatche can’t run and mcgee has to board so its Wall crawford or bust. Wall missed so many layups overpenetrating he’s not being coached well he doesn;t have a floater in his bag he doesn’t probe the defense. Too many bad decision tonight he’ll be better there.

Mcgee -just wasn’t working hard enough seemed to get frustrated by the missed shots and free throws and stopped working on the boards. didn’t go hard enough. he has to establish his game with boards and bloks then worry about scoring, seemed to be the other way around tonight.

Blatche- just outworked by Humphries plain and simple Blatche started fast and crashed. he’s playing too many minutes he should be pulled as soon as he fatigues because he alters the game with his lazy play.

Young, Singleton and Turiaf all gave good effort played solid floor games

I think the problem is Flip and his coaching ultimately. this team played the same way they played to start last season lewis and Blatche not doing much of anything slowing the team down and cogging the middle for wall’s penetrations.

Just a bad bad night. I think Mcgee and Wall can and will play better games everyone else is just sorta who they are as players.

by jazzy1 on Dec 26, 2011 9:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

The team don't need to play any faster

They need to play smarter.

by isum on Dec 27, 2011 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Wall has too much pride not to put things together

EHe needs to get stronger and, more flexible. He needs to sharpen his focus. He needs to become a true NBA professional.

by spotless on Dec 26, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Shoulda got Rubio...

haha just kidding, but he is really good. Imagine if instead of what we have, we drafted Rubio, Evan Turner, and Derrick Williams or Kanter. haha that’d be weird

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

he also took 3 shots and scored only 6pts in 26mins as his team lost

he’s nothing special and will have trouble being better than Jose Barrea

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he's crap

has no offensive or defensive ability at all, so he will sit back and make nice passes for the stat sheet while his team loses. Just my opinion

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He certainly was NOT crap tonight.

He was electric. He was the best-passing rookie I’ve seen since Magic/Bird. His defense was a bit up and down. I have no idea what he’ll be like overall, but his debut was dynamite.

by YellaFella on Dec 26, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

so dynamic that Westbrook scored 28pts AND had 6assts also

i’m sorry, i just dont think Rubio is good at all. He’ll always make some nice passes but he wont be able to defend anyone and he cant score…was all on display tonight

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

he was a +1 while Barrea was +14

just saying, the last thing I want is for Wall to try and become Rubio…he needs to be may levels better than that imho

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree

but the fact Rubio had a few assts that will make Sportscenter hides the reality he doesnt have that much positive impact on the game because he cant score nor defend. That’s going to be the case all season imo, nice highlights but that’s it

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I see your point of view

I just think it’s wrong, You have to take into account how he doesn’t really make any bad decisions and paces things right. Him and wall really are opposites in a lot of ways.

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Turiaf is a great player by the same logic.

It’s easier for players like Turiaf and Rubio to not make any mistakes because they are capable of a lot less than players like Wall and Mcgee who have 10x more options in their heads during each possession.

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets just look back at this at the end of the season

We both have our viewpoints based on opinions so the only proof will be at the end of the season.

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That's some bull crap

Ricky Rubio will not be winning the TWolves any games this season. Not one. More likely his opponent will be doing what Westbrook did tonight and the Wolves will lose because Rubio can’t guard. Plus, a few highlight passes doesn’t make a better PG. Maybe of he consistently dishes out 10+ nightly, I’ll think differently… but a guy that does not score and does not defend is not going to win me over with a few awesome passes.

I can not friggin believe how obnoxious we are being tonight. John Wall sucks because we didn’t like what we saw from himafter a long lay off of basketball, against a top 5 PG too… thats just crazy.

On the other hand, I guarantee Wall wins us a few games on his own this year.

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by returnofswagger on Dec 27, 2011 6:13 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Well Im not ready to call anyone better than Wall

That plays 28 mins a night or gets fewer assists a night than Wall gets layups or can’t make up his lack of being able to do anything but pass, with his defense.

You could argue I’m judging by a small sample size. But I could argue the same.

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by returnofswagger on Dec 27, 2011 2:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

if everyone applies the exact same scrutiny to Wall that is generally given to Mcgee

we’ll all commit suicide over the lack of positives with this team. A lot went wrong tonight but by far the biggest issue is that John Wall was not an impact player. In fact he wasnt good at all. Yes it’s Game1 but wow he needs to be so much better than what he showed tonight for the Wiz to have any chance.

Until he looks far, far better that’s the only salient issue with this team!

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

can we atleast agree

Nick young is arguably our best player(currently )

Blatche is all talk

Mcgee IS improving

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 10:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

ok

Then who?

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hah it is a problem..

I want Nick to be our best player… first he needs to be our clear cut go to scorer, atleast 20 per. Also needs contribute in other areas… The only way Wall could be our best player is if he picks up his D and makes better decisions on the fast break. In the half court he needs to just run the offense and look to make plays for others

by koop1122 on Dec 26, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that

Him AND Wall will be our best players all season.

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by returnofswagger on Dec 27, 2011 6:14 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Spot on Dcrez

At no time tonite was Wall the best player on the court. I am really starting to worry about him. His body language is terrible and he gave up on several plays when things didn’t go his way. I did not see a leader out there. Very worrisome.

by DCWizFan on Dec 26, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

the most troubling thing to me was you dont even notice he's on the court most of the time

and that he doesnt come close to passing the “mcgee” test. How about when he had his pocket picked and the fouled for the and1 on the other end? There would be 100 “start Turiaf!!” posts if that happened to Javale.

Wall is currently lost, let’s just hope it’s game1 stuff

by DCrez on Dec 26, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I am just not fan of him

I mean, I have to like cause he is on my team, but I couldnt stand him at kentucky, cause it was just like watching an aau game everytime. I wont respect his game until he develops a mid range game. He is just not a baller like penny hardaway , tim hardaway, a healthy and sane Gil, Gary Payton. Once again not many people are but his hype was making him out to be that good.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous.

He had a very solid rookie year. He’s had ONE whole game in his second year.
What is it with Wizards fans? Does no one have perspective? Does no one understand that this is Year 2 of the rebuild?

Relax!

by YellaFella on Dec 26, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Its just a personal opnion

I just dont like his game. Kind of how I dont like Monta Ellis.

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesnt mean I cant like his game

If he improves, gets a shot, and understands tempo and how to keep a defense off balance…

by MurlandTerps on Dec 26, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

Thank you.

Somehow I don’t think Sacto fans were ready to crucify him last year.

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by returnofswagger on Dec 27, 2011 6:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Positives:
Crawford
Singleton
Turiaf
Young
Mason

Neutral:
Lewis
Shelvin
Booker

Bad:
Wall
Blatche
McGee

When our supposed three best players play like shit, we will never win. I don’t see this trend persisting.

Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.

by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Dec 26, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

J,J. Barea looks like a werewolf

Or a troll, or something haha. He looks like something from skyrim. Just very disgusting

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Clearly we blew it and played terribly down the stretch

but I’ve seen so many dumb comments on this post. The “fans” on here make me almost as angry as the game. Good god.

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by adamvolo on Dec 26, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry

But I was there. We played one good quarter and that was it. There were some good things on the edges but when you see your “best” players play like I did – with no energy and enthusiasm combined with very low bball iqs – and your supposed superstar stinks up the joint …. That’s not hating it’s truth telling.

by DCWizFan on Dec 26, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

But I was there too. I agree after the first quarter the second was mediocre, third was hard to watch and fourth was disapointing, I guess. You act like being there makes any difference. But don’t you think that you are overreacting after ONE game?

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by adamvolo on Dec 27, 2011 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

1 question

Did it bother anyone that Wall didn’t try to set up a half court possession first before looking for the quick transition pass to Crawford for a 3 pointer? I don’t remember if there was enough time too. It just seems that looking for the fast-break first can become a liability.

by purpleonblack86 on Dec 26, 2011 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

I didnt like that play

Because he drove into multiple defenders with no plan. Not a good point guard play at all.

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by returnofswagger on Dec 27, 2011 6:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

There was enough time

But the problem was he had nothing there. Even if he was in a rush, he was basically going into a crowd of 5 defenders. There was no way that was going to end well. A veteran guard would have step in enough to draw the defense in and then hit a trailer like Nick Young for an open three. He went down too far and he waited too long to pass it.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Dec 27, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

yes. there was at least 40 seconds on the clock

I can’t imagine what he was thinking charging down the court like that. Three or four guys around/in front of him. And he waited too long to make the pass when he did finally attempt it. I get the feeling he wanted the and1 to tie the game, then realized hewas surrounded and basically f***ed.

He has to play in control more often. Slow it down. He also appears to think that he can carry this team. He can’t. At least not yet.

by young, loud and Scotty on Dec 27, 2011 3:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Reading these comments is completely amazing.

Go to sleep, people. This is the first game of YEAR 2 of the rebuild. It’s going to take time. Wall is very, very young. He was good last year. He’ll get better.

ONE GAME OF 66. ONE GAME OF 66. Say it with me: ONE GAME OF 66.

Get a grip. Seriously. If Wall’s playing like this in April, we can start wondering what’s wrong. But it’s the first game. Get ahold of yourselves.

by YellaFella on Dec 26, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Thank you

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by adamvolo on Dec 27, 2011 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

did anyone see what blatche tweeted

He actually said he needs more touches….

"The Wizards won thanks to John Wall JohnWalling to John Wall for the bucket for John Wall. If not for John Wall, the Washington JohnWalls would never have JohnWall’d the Utah NotJohnWalls."-mike prada

by MadDog21 on Dec 26, 2011 10:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Then tell him to get more rebounds

that’s always one way to touch the ball more…

by gray16 on Dec 26, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is that true? He tweeted that?

If so, the guy needs to be interviewed to explain himself. This is the first game of the season, and he is questioning his coach and his teammates? Hopefully for him, somebody “hijacked” his twitter account like he said they did last year!

by Tbonebullets on Dec 26, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

That was a real blower….all that talk about being a leader and the first thing he does after the FIRST game is air his grievances and excuses on Twitter..even if he had a point you don’t handle it this way and nowhere did he speak about Humphries cooking him all night

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by WorldWiEdWard on Dec 26, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt he said anything that wasn't provided as analysis

from the coaches…he can’t be dumb enough to start going down a Twitter grievance path this early.

by DavidDunn on Dec 27, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya about Wall

and I really WANT to like his game but I see lots of weaknesses there. Hopefully fixable but the intangibles are really problematic. With the rest of the core, Blatche and McGee, I REALLY don’t like what I see and it is what we’ve seen before so this is not just reacting to one game.

by DCWizFan on Dec 26, 2011 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

IT NOT THAT YOUR NOT GETTING THROUGH

haha attention grabbing device ( I got a high B in ENG 101, not bragging) We can all have our own opinion, he’s saying what he see’s, and i agree with him. We’re not saying Wall sucks, we’re saying we see things that are concerning. Do you get that or not?

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The good thing

Is that we r talking about games – not the cba- and for that I’m thankful. And with a shortened season this game will be forgotten quickly. But this was not the way to start. On to the next one!

by DCWizFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I'm lazy when i type on blogs haha.

And yes, the grading scale was easier then getting with Lebron’s mom, so that helped too.

by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

trust me, this is the result we want

echoing what others have said, john wall has a lot to learn and mcgee is improving. the rest of our core is largely irrelevant. learn those lessons, guys, and get a high pick.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 26, 2011 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

I am disappointed in this game

we were basically at full strength minus Vesely who is a fringe rotation player, while the Nets were missing Robin Lopez who is their number one low post option. If he was in this game with Humphries, we would have been blown out tonight like the game against Philly for the entire game. That said, the Wizards did not play listlessly throughout this game.

I will say that I’m disappointed in our crowd booing Kris Humphries. He did nothing wrong. It’s all Kimmy’s fault, because she was less in love with him than he was in love with her, and at worst, he was a bit gullible. He did a great job this game, and I think he will have another solid season this year.

If she was still married to him, it would be perfect if we played Big Sean’s Dance song when she showed on the camera.

by thewiz06 on Dec 26, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

We simply need more selfless play all around

Smarter, tougher. Far, far too many possessions featured only one or two players touching the ball.

First quarter was mostly easy buckets and good looks for Crawford and Young.

Afterwards, everything changed. Reverted back to Me Ball.

Defensively, we looked lost. Wall was killed on the top of the key all game. Singleton was I think the lone bright spot — seemed like he forced mistakes and turnovers a third of the time he was the on ball defender. It’s only time until Flip inserts him into the starting lineup, to send a message/reward hard defensive play/whathaveyou.

The sooner we can replace Lewis and Blatche, the better off we’ll be

by Max Zamphirescu on Dec 26, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

Flips Lineups

It was obvious to me after blatche got the technical his head wasn’t on straight — and he was getting tired out there. I was surprised Flip elected to put him in so long in the 3rd and for some reason pulled javale instead.

I felt we were really dragging midway thru the second half and into the 4th going down i felt singleton should have gotten in sooner . He played great and whenever he was in good things were happening.

NY also should have gotten in sooner he didnt’ come in until 5 min in the 4th that shocked me.

Also surprised by:

THere was a point in the 2nd quarter w/singleton, mack, turiaf, NY and mcgee really couldn’t figure that one out there was no offense.

by NotGivinUpOnDray on Dec 26, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

It's all Buckhantz's fault!

He sounds like his puppy died every time something bad happens to the Wizards. He mentioned the evaporated large lead at least 45 times! Hate that guy…

Bullets fan stuck in CO.

by Krusty2 on Dec 26, 2011 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Some interesting +/-

McGee -19
Turiaf +14
Singleton -14
Rashard +2

by Max Zamphirescu on Dec 26, 2011 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

Yes but so, alas, did Johan Petro

This whole thread is why I wanted so badly for the Wizards to win this game.

I really hate seeing everyone so down :-(

But good God, where else can your head be when:

A player (Petro) whose contract has been so universally criticized takes the measure of a man (McGee) from whom people expect a leap to greatness,

A PF (Humphries) on a one-year contract who has not even practiced with his team, and whose major claim to fame is a bad but mercifully short and apparently unconsummated marriage to a pseudo-celebrity cleans the clock of your starting PF and serial lady-killer (Blatche),

The PG (Wall) who is the face of your team gets thoroughly embarassed by a genuine star at his position (Williams),

and it is clear that your coach (Flip) has really failed to adapt himself to the reality of his roster situation as well as his oppositie number (Avery) apparently has…

“Welp” then, folks, it is as good a time as any to just flat wallow in it.

by khrabb on Dec 27, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

u forgot...

gaines whos been on 5 teams in 4 years, and okur who took the redeye and just made it in for the game.

by NotGivinUpOnDray on Dec 27, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, petro had a great game too.

but I think the MVP was Humphries. He got a 21 and 16 game, really played with grit and wanted to let his game do the talking when most fans were booing him only because he got Kim’s a$$ for a little bit, sham or no sham marriage. Most fans quiteted down when he kept delivering.

by thewiz06 on Dec 27, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Some players make other players better for sure. We can wait until longer if it’s a trend or just one game thing.

by isum on Dec 27, 2011 2:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Vomit.

I thought the community would be more analytical, but it’s just straight emotion. Bummer. I may not post a lot but I’m here every day. No longer. Good season everyone.

by Craig_ on Dec 27, 2011 1:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

It's the home opener

And we blew a 20+ point lead. Some people are going to have a strong response. There’s quite a bit of analysis mixed in. But, these boards also exist a bit to vent.

by GJennings on Dec 27, 2011 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone needs to calm down

I hated the way Wall played last night, but some people act like he is the worst player ever. He is a smart player and he has always adapted. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he will learn from this phase that he going through and play better. Trust me we can do a lot worse at PG.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Dec 27, 2011 8:19 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I concur

and thank you

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by adamvolo on Dec 27, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

High-level things that are hard to understand

1) how can an NBA team have so few shooters?
2) Knowing the Wizards FG% and defensive rebounding were weak last year, how could the Wiz done so little to address these things in the off season?
3) Why is Blatche the captain?
4) How can Wall actually be playing worse than last year after a stupendous summer? Is it an injury or lack of confidence (e.g, see #3)?
5) Why does Leonsis think evoking a “rebuilding strategy” buys him time when they finished near the bottom last year and didn’t use it to improve?
6) Why doesn’t somebody tell McGee to put his weight forward on his toes at the foul line? It’s a rhythm shot. He’s flat-footed at the line, which is not good. He should flex his knees and get set with his weight forward. What do the Wizard coaches do all day?
7) Why have EG and Flip mismanaged Young over the years? He’s going to be very good on another team next year.
8) Conversely, why have EG and Flip chosen Blatche as their breadwinner?

Other than that, I can’t bring myself to comment on the actual game.

by Izman on Dec 27, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

great questions

1. That is because of a combination of mgmt failing to attract good shooters and our current players unable to improve on, unwilling to improve on, or they don’t care about improving their three point shooting.
2. Basically the same as number one, except replace shooting with rebounding.
3. Blatche was here the longest and needs more opportunities to show leadership? Is wall still a captain?
4. Summer league games have no true defense but even then wall’s offense should be better. Also wall played with some much better guys like Kd.
5. Ted considers more picks progress. Immediate gratification is not.
6. I don’t think McGee cares about it to be honest. the coaches are resigned to that now.
7. Nick has done what the coach and gm wanted him to do. Hopefully this year he can focus on passing and rebounding. Yesterday we saw a few good passes by young. Granted none I remember turned into assists but they will turn to dimes eventually.
8. Dray is our most well rounded player, and I say that unfortunately.

by thewiz06 on Dec 27, 2011 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly the reason why we lost

IS THE MISSED FREE THROWS.
Seriously if everyone just shot at the precentage they shot last year we would have won.
I know there were other problems, but those problems could have been overcome by our positives. But you can’t really have any excuses for going 18/30 at the freethrow line or something like that. We lost by 6 points but in reality, 4 made free throws during the game probably would have given us the win. This was a very very very unlucky and yet very sad loss for the Wizards.

by Young Wook Lee on Dec 27, 2011 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Nice

Who won? Who lost? Who cares?! The NBA is Back! - David Aldridge

What seems to be the officer, problem? - Randy Marsh

by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 27, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to the game last night

it’s too early to have an opinion on this team after 1 game, but there were some positives like Singleton, Turiaf, Mack and Crawford. I think Singleton could be like Bruce Bowen once he develops his offense.
LOL @ all the overreactions.

STRAIGHT CASH HOMIE

by everybodylookin on Dec 27, 2011 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

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