Wizards Vs. 76ers: Preseason Game 2 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Dec 20, 2011 6:30 PM EST
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| John Wall | PG | Jrue Holiday |
| Jordan Crawford | SG | Jodie Meeks |
| Rashard Lewis | SF | Andre Iguodala |
| Andray Blatche | PF | Elton Brand |
| JaVale McGee | C | Spencer Hawes |
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Nick Young, Trevor Booker and Maurice Evans will be back in time to play in this one, but Jan Vesely is doubtful with a hip injury. Hopefully, the Wizards put forth a better effort.
GO WIZARDS!
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A virtual hardhat
For tonight’s hardest working wiz.
by g zeller on Dec 20, 2011 6:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
they said on Friday's game that
Philly got ours for the last game (the white dude with glasses came in with Phil and Buck for a few minutes) and that we would get theirs tonight.
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Well their sideline reporter...
I don’t mind her!
by gray16 on Dec 20, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Was looking forward to seeing Jan in action
But I guess getting Booker and Young back is good enough to make up for it
Kenny Smith dissed Javale
in the outtakes they showed from Open Court…
Something like “you don’t have to tie your shoes for Javale McGee”.
One word: Cinnamon
I like the Bullets
I don't think those guys have ever showed us love.
They seemed pretty high on Butler back in the day though.
First comment from the phone. No horizontal support for keyboard in android :(
by CNUwizkid on Dec 20, 2011 7:10 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I want to see a blue alternate road jersey. I think it’ll look better
by Bread Lover on Dec 20, 2011 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
HAHAHA did anyone else see JaVale in the background of a shot of Iguodala
using his inhaler? hahahahaha
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the problem is we're addicted to something we can't get
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
what do you guys think of the away unis?
Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.
I'm still trying to get used to the red aways. The white homes are so nice.
Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.
They were better than the Wake Forest JV alternates
But I never lied the old colors
No reason to think this game will turn out any different from the first one...
Wizards turning the ball over…
Philly not missing any shots…
deja vu
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
Still no smooth lookng offense....
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Attention BF members:
I give up on blatche and jevale.
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Dec 20, 2011 7:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
On a soft ass fadeaway...
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Dec 20, 2011 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Name a great scoring big man
who didn’t use the fadeaway religiously…
Lol
he did use the fadeaway a good amount, just a one handed fader… but I’ll give you that one, a freak example though.
Don't be ridiculous
And that’s blatches only move. Trust me I was a big supporter of him but I can’t take it anymore
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Dec 20, 2011 7:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not defending Blatche
just saying fadeaways are not a bad thing, they are actually an unstoppable weapon that many great big men have used throughout the history of the nba…
so I guess I’m defending the fadeaway lol
Haha well if a player can make it everytime then shoot em everytime
But he can’t
Duck Fallas!!
by believe_the_curse on Dec 20, 2011 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BTW...Hows the Clips v. Wiz rivalry from last season gonna carry over?
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All Washington Everything.
slow to develop.... lol
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nice FB
Rebounding!!!!!! first
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I love how Wall is so damn fast
that the refs have trouble calling travels on him
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JW got what? 3 TO;s Already??
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They don't like Blatche any more than most of the people here
Does not bode well
if only more players were grown ass men
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think Blatche has an illness, he's allergic to defense.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Dec 20, 2011 7:26 PM EST reply actions
Wow - Apparently Crawford thought he needed that shot....
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
wtf.....
this is alarming
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell are we doing
why do we continue to break away from the offense
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because we suck and have no good players
by Oldbuckwilder on Dec 20, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
that's why we should continue with the fucking offense
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by adamvolo on Dec 20, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You would think with John Wall struggling on offense
he would work hard on defense… disappointed in his body language right now…
is it too soon to bring gilbert back ?
jk
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I hope flip lights a fire in them at halftime
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Defo need more ball movement.
No way JWall is going to average 10 assists if this keeps up
man, i know its just preseason
But i think Veseley may be our smartest player, and hes a rookie that’s only played 20 minutes.
by FTT on Dec 20, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good teams run their offense...
Meanwhile – the Wizards break down into on-on-one after a pass or two….
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
by Rook6980 on Dec 20, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Couple of things of note
Crawford’s shot-selection is ??
Wall’s handles are atrocious for a starting PG. That’s why he’s always running into brick walls and traveling. The guy is so out of control with his handle.
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He's sprinting .
No way to control an offense. Somebody needs to convince him to slow down.
by DCPerspective on Dec 20, 2011 7:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
we need to adjust the sliders as well
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I like to see android app since I get to talk to the phone
to get my comments out really quickly
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
this android app
makes some of my comments go to reply section. I guess it’ll take some time
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
John is turning it over at an alarming rate
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by adamvolo on Dec 20, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
that's 4 now?
were in the first Q……
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
i know i havent seen enough of wall
but….this isnt how he normally plays right, lockout rust or something? He doesnt look, well forget basketball wise, he doesnt look all that athletic either, im waitinig for him to break down defenses on athleticism alone, im assuming hes just taking it easy, preseason and what not…..?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
He went backwards in developement so far
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else getting a black screen on NBA TV, or is it just me?
by getmoneykid on Dec 20, 2011 7:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If you have DIRECTV
try channel 643 or try NBATV (channel 216).
I live overseas so don't have those
thanks anyway
The vets should calm them down for a bit.
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All Washington Everything.
my dad wanted him out of dc
the moment he did the dougie.
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
glad nick picked up from where he left off
by thewiz06 on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
smdh
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
John wall definitely
gotta get back into NBA mindset
Just turned on the game
yo what the hell is this. Where is my NY1.
As much as Arenas needed to be traded
these are times he could really help Wall, he would know what to say to him
Nick of the Fro Nation
I’m gonna miss that hair
Nice shot John
but that’s an ugly-ass shot that only Kobe can consistently make.
it was a bad shot indeed.
Just move the ball and find the open man. No matter how bad the shooter, open shots=better %
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think NY was open behind the 3 on that shot.
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Wizards shot 29% for the quarter
Blatche 1-6
Crawford 1-4
McGee 1-4
I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.
I think it's pretty apparent
Our players were not dedicated to working on their shot. They all look pretty rusty.
Watching the First Quarter
I think Wall thinks he has to do it all for this team to do anything. I’m worried because htat’s increasing his turnovers and creating a bit of a stagnant offense.
I really like the energy of our 2nd unit.
Buckhantz coming in the third
by CNUwizkid on Dec 20, 2011 7:42 PM EST via Android app reply actions
More of the same
Sixers look so well coached tey have players that know their roles our guys are jus out there playing. No spacing no cohesiveness.
Wall drives the lane isf ull of guys Wizards bigs not makin themselves available.
looks like the cinnamon isnt hurting NY
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
That's the nick we know and love
finally a three.
Our offense really needs to step it up
is it just me or does NY look a little stronger?
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Dec 20, 2011 7:44 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm sorry to all the Nick haters here
But that was beautiful. He is balling
Agreed
I mean I’d be willing to give him a 7 mil a year contract.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Dec 20, 2011 7:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Blatche looks fat on defense like always...
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Dec 20, 2011 7:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why did Dray just eyeball that Roger Mason shot?
Go after the ball for the offensive rebound!
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It's his third lapse or so
But, it’s hist first game back so let’s cut him a little slack.
that's what Mark Jackson calls
ball movement, man movement!!
I'm sure this has been said already
but the red Washington jerseys are pretty fresh.
If Dray wasn't so fat
He would’ve been able to beat Hawes off the dribble with ease.
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Turiaf is playing too many minutes
Seraphin and McGee need more PT.
Atleast he sets good picks
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'd just like to take this moment to give a shout to my new TV
This picture is ridiculous. :)
haha
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, it's just an Insignia
But I seriously can’t say a bad thing about it.
need to watch his shot selection though
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I like him
he plays smart and hard. If he can learn to knock down the mid range and 3 point shot, he’s gonna be great.
defense has picked up more organized on offense.
Give NY props for that.
Hey
i may have said this already but the team’s arm sleeves are pimpin
Good to see Nick going to the rim
even on a miss
Sigh
This game is every stereotype of Nick Young. No assists. No rebouding. Shoots every time he touches it, but he’s still making a good %.
Actually he has 1 rebound and 1 assist
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well no one else can really creat their own shot
And the last 2 shots weren’t bad shots, he just missed.
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Nick is jacking it too much lol
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Even though Nick missed
last two shots have been good selection though
whole lotta jump shots still
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions
Welcome to the Flip Saunders offensive system
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The black hole version of Nick Young is back.
Between that and Crawford’s hoooooorible shot selection, this could be a problem.
I would like to see
The offense getting Nick open using off-ball screens, instead of making him take everything off the dribble.
So, uh, Mike
What happens if you hit flag instead of rec? My bad Dutch…
lol
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Brand has always been quick as hell
Just not fast
D looks like its gonna be ragged again this year
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
whats ragged? Bad?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
flashes of good but never gonna look pretty
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
It seems like a lack of trust
Everybody is trying to be the man.
that's where wall needs to set the tone
and lead
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hey guys
Remember when Rashard Lewis could shoot?
He doesn't use up any possession
Give him the ball and he can shoot. He is really good post up player against 3s
Oehhh its soooooooooo ugly!
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Wall has 2 turnovers...
according to NBA.com…
That aint right, he had atleast 3 travels
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
that was me, appartently i was wrong
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes when you're watching the game
you miss things. I didn’t realize Young had an assist on AB’s pass.
As, like, a social experiment or something?
Because I can’t think of any other possible reason
That's right JVM
Let Hawes take all the 3’s he wants
haha probably
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
so funny though, because when we're on defense they only talk about the philly players, when we're on offense, they only talk about the philly players.
Very unprofessional.
Our announcers are pretty biases too
You just like their bias more.
I agree about the play-by-play though. It’s lousy.
by GJennings on Dec 20, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not as much as these guys,
Buchanst (sp) and Chenier are way better than them in general. One of these guys can’t even speak proper english.
I've also heard enough about Thaddeus Young's quick first step.
by oakhillswag on Dec 20, 2011 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but of course they don't say anything about Wall's first step
which destroys thaddeus young’s. lol
is Philly a good rebounding team? or is our frontline small?
seems like the Sixers are getting a lot of offensive boards
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
defensive effort is decent
but the defensive rebounding is lacking so far
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions
and what do you need to fast break????
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
this team has talent to be a good up-tempo team. they should focus on rebounding and getting the break going whenever possible
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
len elmore? isnt malik rose doing the color commentary?
What's this hell I view?
Wizards are like the winter
Ice cold from outside
-wjb1492
Man, Thad Young took that punishment
and it was still a block, lol. Poor guy.
Wall still suck in the half-court
Because of his poor handle and lack of a jumpshot.
And Crawford is a massive chucker.
Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG
We have 7 assists
Who isn’t a chucker tonight?
Unrelated
But why isn’t London Fletcher getting more Pro Bowl love? Anyone know?
Thad gets a mention again....
“he doing what he does.”
So Silky smooth.
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Wall is pressing.
Working though.
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 8:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I kinda like the sixers
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wow
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Do you guys know what we need to put these guys away for good??
CARTIER MARTIN :DDDDD
WOW!!!!!
Throw it down big man!!!
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 8:08 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Javale woke up after that Jam
3 blocks in a row now
ENERGYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY I like it!!
finally
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Okay, this version of Javale I like
Dunk with attitude. Followed by owning two straight possessions with blocks. Okay.
injured hip
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
grown ass foul
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
happy to see that
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Credit should really go
To McGee. Back to back blocks and a great dunk.
Was that an 18 point swing?
We were down by eight, right?
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 8:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions
the only make by NY
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Offense does look horrible.
Lewis is killing us he’s doing nothing. and crawford is doing his best chicken with the head cut off ball playing.
vucevic.........what?
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Is it a good sign when your starting point guard leads the team in scoring
and has only one assist at the half?
no
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
blatch 3-10
I missed the first quarter. What’s up. More of the same?
in the 1st Qyes. after that it got a little better
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Team communication failure
They weren’t running man, think JaVale was supposed to hold the paint.
so how's everyone feeling aobut the one yr tender for Young?
Personally I was hoping for a 3 or 4 year, front loaded deal, but hopefully EG knows what he’s doing…
not that easy. Nick wanted $9 mill a yr.....
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
not sure
we added some players didnt kept track of cap situation
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
i was thinking more like 15
and three years of 6 mil afterwards.
He wanted a $9 mil per year. Your generous deal would have been
rebuffed, tonedru. Not enough dough.
over 4 years it would actually almost the same.
plus, who wouldn’t prefer up front money instead of over 4 years?
Way too much money for a good scorer
who can’t pass and rebound even adequately. We’ll see if he improves his weaknesses this season. I’m happy we didn’t pay him 9mil a yr at this point
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Game totally changed when Young came in.
Scored six points in a row… Tell you ehat, he just may be worth nine mil.
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
as long as he continues to get better, he'll be worth it. Plus if crawford ends up better than NY, then we could just trade NY.
now he could jet for LA or somewhere else after this year and we could end up with nothing.
I give the credit to
Mack, Booker, and Turiaf, they improved the defense and offense. Nick improved the offense, but his defense was horrid.
nicks defens/?
how?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
He got lost on a few plays
But the last few minutes he was in there he got more solid defensively
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
he's only been here for a day though
that may be the cause of that.
True, I'm not saying this is a sign of things to come or anything
I just don’t give him credit for us having the lead right now as much as the other bench players
The guy only got six shots - not a huge sample size, give him a break
There were a few shots, where he got good looks but simply missed. Sometimes that happens.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
No one’s going to make all their shots, and it’s his first game back. Chill out.
Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG
I think he's getting some flack
because shooting is what he does well and he asked for 9 million.
Good lord
just stating facts, don’t shoot the messenger. In other news, Blatche is shooting bad, and John Wall is turning the ball over… bet I won’t get much flack for saying that, so why should I get flack for noting Young shot 2-6…
Because it's Young's first game back
And we know he’s a good shooter. He won’t shoot like this all the time.
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as long as we're stating facts
Turner looks good
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Neither team is shooting well
There’s a lot of rust out there.
I think it
changed when wall rewarded jvm when he set the pick. after that jvm woke up.
by DCPerspective on Dec 20, 2011 8:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yea
seeing it more than twice a game might be cool?
by DCPerspective on Dec 20, 2011 8:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think it depends on how much we'd have to spend
In order to replace his production, if he hypothetically wanted to walk. We can talk all we want about being a fiscally responsible front office, but honestly who do you think you can get that can replace his production? Crawford? Future 1st round draft pick? Some free agent? I mean we’ll have to see.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
what about just trading him at the deadline to a contender who needs a SG for a future 1st rnd pick?
we can always hope
worthless pick though
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
true, rather re-sign him long term at a reasonable price
but if he doesn’t want to stay then sure
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
History shows that every player who's accepted the one year QO has left after the year.
So I’ll go with that… plus Nick seems to want to go back west.
we can but he has a veto
if we trade him he loses his bird rights meaning he loses the ability to sing for an extra yr and higher annual raises
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
sing/sign wha eva! lol
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
only when a player accepts the QO i think
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think Young can veto
I thought someone said that at least
The only thing he can do is not give the receiving team any assurances
about signing long-term, as far as I know.
Liking the screens Javale is setting.
Sticking his knee out there, forcing people to move around him.
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 8:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think he started doing it with Tapscott
by ThePGPhenomenon on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
It actually started vs the Bulls
when Obama showed up.
by el freako on Dec 20, 2011 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BF in-thread poll
Who is excited by Shaq joining the TNT crew? Who isn’t?
im fine with it.
Should be fun with all those characters.
Skins, Bullets/Wizards, Nats, Caps.
All Washington Everything.
and charles barkley is?
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hilarious
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Did you see him preview the Wizards
He’s very very boring.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Dec 20, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
True
Even his free throws are interesting because they are so unsightly
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
he was in that preview. very dull.
I dont think it’s his cup of tea to be analyzing by himself.
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All Washington Everything.
dude, you just hate everybody
Dray is out of shape, Wall’s got no handle, Shaq’s boring….
by Kenny Sky Walker on Dec 20, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Meanwhile
Turiaf and Nick Young have the highest plus minuses….
Dunno what box score you're looking at
But Roger has +6, Nick and Turiaf are both +9
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Crawford hit a three!!
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I was looking forward to seeing Buck and Phil tonight for the first time of the season
I was at the preseason game on Friday so I didn’t get to hear their play calling. It got my blood flowing when I saw them at the game though. THE SEASON IS BACK, BABY!
Jordan Crawford still looks totally lost on D
He keeps leaving his guy, who ends up making the play.
Buck is schooling the commentators.
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All Washington Everything.
by BM22 on Dec 20, 2011 8:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I like Blatche on the high block (as long as he doesn't shoot) ;-)
Nice pass to McGee.
The sad thing is
I actually thought Dray was going to shoot that..
i mean i love seeing my big men hanging around the perimeter
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why do they show opponents FT% in defensive statistics.
as if the defense can affect someone’s FT accuracy. LOL
by tonedru on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
terrible
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'd really like to see Singleton play
With the starters. Lewis isn’t giving us much.
Lewis Lewis Lewis.....................arg
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wtf is going on with rashard lewis’s shot
by gregjohnson1229 on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 PM EST reply actions
i think he lost all of his confidence when he was traded
he wasn’t a consistent shooter for us last year.
no difference with last season, just not falling
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
touché
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
jordan crawford is like a clone of jamal crawford with the putrid shot selection
by gregjohnson1229 on Dec 20, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions
I love it when Dray moves in closer for his shot or to make a play.
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That's right fellas
trade 2’s for 3’s. That’ll work
most NBA players don't
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watching crawford play d makes me sick
he leaves his guy every single play
let me amend that.
watching crawford play at all makes me sick
Can you imagine how horrible we'd be this year without Swaggy P?
If Crawford was our starting 2, it would be a miserable seasons for D.C.
why dont you run something after that rebound Nick?
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Wall needs the ball way more than they're giving him
The offense runs through WALL… and all the other players need to get that.
Thinking of Buddy Miles
just knew he played music, got confused lol
Jazz baby!
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Buck was unsure
I just thought I’d see if he had a reason to be
Buck was right to be unsure
seeing that someone thought one of the greatest musicians ever to live was a drummer
Fair enough
But how many people know Buddy Miles?
Lewis is 74, Singleton 67.....
vesely 63
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
wow... they always rate Wizards players way low.
What are the starters rated?
Nah, we are just not that good
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
they've been doing that for years though
I remember a few years ago when we were a playoff team and Jamison was averaging 20-10 and they gave him like a 78 or something.
Due to lack of defensive awareness, that really brings down OVR
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Consistency and awareness are the attributes that directly influence overall rating
needless to say, our roster is severely lacking those attributes.
BTW Crawford needs to fix his shooting mechanics
Always kicking his legs out.
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Nick young rebound alert
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lols
pun intended?? DON’T WORRY I’M BLACK IT’S OK!
by Ball with Wall on Dec 21, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Do you get to tell Bill Gates what to do
when you buy a share of Microsoft?
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
The question is
Does Bill get to tell Balmer what to do?
it's not like he's just a season ticket holder
he owns a significant portion of the team. Kind of like Michael Jordan and the wizards 10 yrs ago.
I was exaggerating.
but Smith is no big player for the Sixers direction as far as I know.
On the other hand, Jay Z is the de-facto majority owner of the nets imo.
Chris Singleton looks like the chief.
Or does that make me sound old? Ok, he looks like Oden.
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 8:56 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I believe you've just offended the man
He doesn’t look a day over 50
Booker and Singleton
are just killing them on defense
At least we're not getting blown out.
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All Washington Everything.
Booker + Singleton is looking good
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe its because it's the preseason
and the coach doesn’t wanna show his hand too much with too many set plays? who knows.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
we have three dudes that can create for themselves
and they tend to take a fistful of bad shots
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everyone else just enjoys taking contested perimeter shots
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It looks chaotic...
but a lot of it is Wall distorting the defense with a mad dash to the hoop and then a scramble to find an open man.
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 9:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
grand conclusions based on what I've seen so far
Lewis needs to be benched
Seraphin should never play
Crawford should be deactivated a couple games until he starts playing unselfishly
Singleton, Vesely and Booker should be part of a rotation.
by jazzy1 on Dec 20, 2011 9:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He appears comfortable with that fader
I’m not mad at him for taking it
being too modest on the vert
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i don't think his feet ever leave the floor.
He’s the only 7 footer who does a turn around fade away from 2 ft away from the basket.
Love that old school sweeping hook.
Classy.
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 9:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wow, Mack is slow and small and can't jump.,
But somehow he gets it done!
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Darnit, what's up with this stupid app?
by ZonkerBL on Dec 20, 2011 9:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
There's no need to put Dray in there
Nick can get the ball with his hair.
it looks so akward thougn
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Much better than missed dunks from the free throw line
Or jumpshots from JaVale
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
i don't mind the mid range jumpers actually. that can prove useful and I think all players need that skill.
i just don’t like free throw line dunks over players….
I mean I'd be okay with it if JaVale was Al Horford or something
He isn’t Horford.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Blatche has the equivalent body of a fat offensive lineman in football
one of the worst nba bodies I have ever seen no muscle tone at all. lol does he eat ham and drink sodas everyday. lol
He never has. Must have an allergy to the weight room. I’m surprised the Zards don’t make lifting part of required training…but what do I know.
by Tbonebullets on Dec 20, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
But he was never fat
e was just a twig. Noe he’s a twig and fat (the worst combination).
Formerly know as iNFamous SWaGG
He has no neck
he’s so fat. how do you run so much and sweat without losing body fat? does he eat lard?
Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Dec 20, 2011 9:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Must east fatcakes every day
But seriously, how does the coaching staff not demand that this guy get in shape? That’s how the Heat run.
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loved the pick last year
got to witness him break my heart when butler beat us in the tourny(ODU). Dude knows how to play the entire game.
great second round pick
should be a good backup for Wall
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Jared Jefferies Joke Win
Best part of tonight’s discussion?
I think shelvin mack is gonna be a good guard.
He seems like he’s gonna be consistent and a good team player, while not trying to be too flashy.
Im impressed!
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
wow, 4 now?
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
glad someone else saw that
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Nick definitely saw it
You could see it in his body language
see the thing is has nick ever thrown down in a game?
ive seen him do it in practice/pick up games but never in a game.. im not sure he would have completed that alley even if he got it
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Nick gets burned going under the screen
Didn’t know Iggy could shoot like that
mack had nick for the alley
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Javale w/ good hustle
just wish he had the basketball iq to make the right play there… pass it back out
whooooooo javale
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Oh my god
That was such an obvious goaltend. Use your brain JaVale!!
Malik Rose is getting on my nerves. He is terrible
by gregjohnson1229 on Dec 20, 2011 9:16 PM EST reply actions
He's not as bad as the Cleveland announcers
Specifically Austin Carr their color guy.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
get Crawford back off the floor throws a pass 100 mph to Mcgee's head.
when I played in college we would do this drill where we would work the ball around the horn cut and no one was allowed to shoot maybe the Wizards should do this in practice.
Crawford's pressing BAD tonight. He wants that starting SG spot so badly that it's
almost painful to watch.
We're losing the battle on the boards.
That’s where this game will be won or lost, imho.
god Crawford is terrible
who thinks he can start at the two?
J Crawford's shot is funny looking.
he kicks out his feet like he’s in middle school.
DeShawn
Liked to do this weird lean back on all of his jumpshots
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
jordan crawford is another head case to be added to a team full of them
by gregjohnson1229 on Dec 20, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions
Crawford = unnecessary movement
He’s not athletic or quick. He just flails around a lot. Forget about him.
on a team that has Blatche and McGee???
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
stiff competition
this may require it’s own post.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
last year we liked him
and now we classify him in the same camp as Dray and JaVale? Let’s give him a little more time.
i mean he has a lot of competiton
Dray, JaVale, Shard, occasionally NY…it truly stiff competiton
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Well, personally for me
Nobody frustrated me as much as DeShawn Stevenson, especially when he was terrible. I’m talking about the “I can’t feel my face move” he did after making a shot, even if he missed the previous five shots. I just wanted to slap him every time he did that.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
This commercial brought to you by somebody about to get fired
God that was awful
he makes a higer %
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was that Book that shot that?
shouldve stepped in a bit
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holy crap is our offense terrible
EVERYONE was just watching Jordan camping the corners, terrible iso play
jrue holiday is just as good as wall as of today.
by gregjohnson1229 on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions
Holiday's game is definitely more patient and refined
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
he also has 2 yrs of experience
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
dagger...
whatever its preseason..
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man i'm tired of knowing this team will suck in the crunch
then watching it happen
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions
No Wall, Andray, or Nick
Our 3 best (maybe only) clutch players, not on the court. don’t worry about this loss.
yeah just a reminder though
that this team is neither smart nor experienced
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
well in fairness
we have the bench out there
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Holiday isn't fast like Wall so he paces the game the right way
Wall still hasn’t mastered how to change his pace.
jrue holiday is pretty quick though. John is still faster but Jrue has comparable assist numbers and is a much better shooter. I still prefer Wall though due to he has a much higher ceiling. Jrue does not have it to be a great player. Wall does
by gregjohnson1229 on Dec 20, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Geez American commercial are TURRIBLE!
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Do Dutch commercials have borderline pornography?
I would so watch that stuff
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Dutch cheese commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRqC4DsYXH0
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
american TV is terrible...
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by little stevie colter on Dec 20, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I thought about it last game but I'm starting to really believe it
Wizards would be better with Holiday/Turner instead of Wall/Crawford
Wall has the potential
But he needs to work on every part of his game… the only thing I’ve been really impressed with Wall so far is his speed…
mcgee
has he looked good all game (just turned it on) he’s the key this year……
He had a crazy dunk earlier
been great ever since
Regular season ... hoping to see Wall turn it on
but I’m starting to dread the elephant in the room.
Shocking
We fade in the last 2 minutes of the game. Didn’t Flip say we would make the playoffs because we would win these types of games where we had the lead inside the last couple minutes of the game?
Though I saw decent rebounding for a change and Shelvin Mack looked good running the team.
preseason......
"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely
by PhenomenalSwag on Dec 20, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Holiday has vet with a clue
Wall has a team full of the clueless.
It's not just the team
I’m talking about individual play as well. Like I said above, Holiday’s game is simply more patient and refined.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Holiday is also a much better PG at this point in his career.
He doesn’t have the potential wall has, but he’s a much better shooter, dribbler, and passer right now.
two truly ugly shots by JC
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That usually is the type of 3 Nick Young would make in that situation
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by PhenomenalSwag on Dec 20, 2011 9:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Terrible grammar but you get my point
"Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely" - Jan Vesely
by PhenomenalSwag on Dec 20, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
i'm curious to see if Flip 'flips' out on his players again after this game.
They deserve it. though not as much as last game.
Definitely a better effort
Bad execution by a lot of guys. Rarely do I see much of an offense though.
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by PhenomenalSwag on Dec 20, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
what a terrible promotion
they couldnt figure out how to get cheese steaks?
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the 13 big macs and fries special?
yea….i purchased that
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i did too.
could be useful on a road trip or when you’re desperate for a cheap meal and have only a couple bucks left.
hahah i thought the same thing!
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Terrible promotion?
with the stuff we get at Verizon Center? Come on…
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
free chick fil a chicken sandwiches taste better and are more filling than a big mac
those beef patties have shrunk over the years….
even better that its chick fil a...superior fast food establishment
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don't we have chipotle and papa johns tie-ins?
far better than McDonalds
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but if miky d's gave out $10 gift cards to everyone
if lebron misses two free shots in a row at verizon, that will be so much sweeter than one sandwich, but i like chick fil a’s service of mcdonald’s any day.
The team played a lot better than last time.
We can give Flip the chance to stay for now.
agreed. he doesn't know how to develope young players.
time to start the search for a new coach for next year.
Not to be rude
he doesn’t know how to develope young players.
But that is pure BS.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
how do you figure?
what of our young guys are significantly better than 2 years ago?
Nick is
JaVale is
Even Blatche had that great stretch of games after the Antwan Caron Deshawn Haywood trades.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
think about, they're players with as much physical abilities as anyone in the league and they still wouldn't start on most teams.
despite being in the league for 3 or 4 years.
athleticism and physical ability
doesn’t make you an automatic starter. Neither does experience, for that matter.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
and to be honest
The vast majority of professional basketball players are essentially who they are when they first arrive in the league. Only the youngest players with most upside, and high BBIQs will improve dramatically
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Those teams already have a sound team culture,
and experienced vets who have won championships to guide the younger players. The longest-tenured player on the wizards is blatche. We don’t have a KG, a Paul Pierce, a Kobe, or a Tim Duncan on this roster. Flip doesn’t have any real leaders to work with.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
We have vets
We had Rashard and Mo Evans and guys like that. That’s not the same as having Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant and Paul Pierce.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Us resigning Mo Evans
Is like the skins gettin Jabar Gaffney, it does nothing and means nothing
by MurlandTerps on Dec 20, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
the fact he developed KG should give that man a pass for awhile
cause he is trying to teach kids with extremely lower basketball IQs
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what has he done since?
The players basically kicked him out of detroit… and he’s done virtually nothing since arriving here.
Yeah...and look where Detroit is now...
Alright, if you think Flip is such a horrible coach, who do YOU suggest develop these young players with such low basketball IQs?
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't remember Phil ever rebuilding a team from total scratch
closest thing was the Lakers from 2005-2008 when they went from lotto team to Western champs.
Typical for losing teams to blame the coach...
No one will win with this roster right now. We are in the “rebuilding process”.
Bit of a knee-jerk reaction, doncha think?
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
he looks almost as lost as the players out there.
the only thing consistent about this team has been the inconsistency since he arrived.
I’m not saying that we should fire him now… but if we don’t show significant improvement this year with the same starters, then we need a replacement for next year.
They played better than they did on Friday
Obviously something clicked shrugs
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Fire him if there's no true progress and chemistry.
but i don’t mind if he was gone right now from last friday…
Its a 66 game season. I say the over/under is 15 wins
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 20, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Well, definitely better game
Saw some stuff I liked, saw some stuff I don’t like.
Wall’s play is getting a little alarming at this point though.
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game recap
Both sg’s looked bad Crawford and Nick Young especially Crawford
defense was better
mcgee played well
Blatche shot poor but passe well with 5 dimes
Singleton and Booker hustled on defense
Wall had his moments both good and bad
found out Lewis has retired but hasn’t submitted paperwork
Mack played well
Flip coached poorly
our problem is our offense has no focus in the halfcourt. Its all random aside from the post dumps to Blatche
I think ultimately Flip has gotta go to.
by jazzy1 on Dec 20, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Half-court execution
Definitely needs work. 100% agree.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
First time posting
Long time reader, first time post:
Any chance we’re overreacting to these last two games? I mean it’s preseason after a lockout shortened off season with a super young team.
Also, just wondering if anyone knows whether Flip’s running vanilla plays like they do in preseason football?
Granted they made some mistakes, but I saw a lot more effort than the first game. Maybe we should wait to call for Flip’s job/Blatche trade/etc… until mid season or so.
Go Wiz
Agreed
For the most part, I’d like to see more improvement just from a game execution standpoint. More patience, better execution, sounder defense and fundamentals. I know this is an athletic roster and we like to run, but for the team to really improve they need to start executing in the half court.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
i honestly thought the random pickup games played during the offseason would hurt players like wall. Seems that in the last two games he’s still getting used to playing within the confines of this offense and playing against above avg. defense.
It’s pretty frustrating that Blatche won’t go inside though, i’m so sick of that fade
blatche thinks he's Michael Jordan
or is that Crawford?… or both… Hmmmm. maybe our players just all have a jordan complex.
and why in the world are our only preseason games against the same team?
shouldn’t we play someone else?
Yeah but philly is still closest
Notice all the preseason team pairings are of teams that are geographically closest to each other. It makes much more sense for the Knicks to play the Nets and the Wizards to play the Sixers than for the Knicks to play the Wizards and the Nets to play the Sixers.
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
still i think this system hurts the younger teams who need to see different looks and personell to learn their systems better.
we’ll see how sharp the wiz are when they open up the season next week though.
Positive spin...
We got blown out in the first game at home
We were significantly better on the road and it was competitive until the last 90 seconds
Next game we get even better?
Likely? No but it could happen.
the problem is the #1 overall
is not playing like a #1 overall. he suppose to be the solution but at least so far he’s part of the problem.
Disagree
we know what Blatche is and I don’t know why Crawford is even discussed on this board. He couldn’t get off Atlanta’s bench for a reason. He’s not important.
But Wall, I’m not seeing it right now. Starting to look like not a franchise pick.
I'm more worried about Blatche
I don’t think he’ll ever get it. The talent is there. He would be a monster if he had desire, but I don’t ever think he’ll flick the switch, at least not in DC at least. I would look to trade him by the deadline.
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should send him in a package deal with crawford for a complete player.
think anyone will bite?
If they keep on producing on the stat-sheet
they should be able to reel something in.
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wall has the personality of someone who takes responsibility for his mistakes and works tirelessly to improve
that’s why I’m not too concerned.
I'm not worried about Wall. I'm worried about our "stand around and look" offense.
Flip’s offense seems to invite way too many contested jumpers and/or quick shots. If we’re not as talented offensively as other teams, shouldn’t we have more movement on offense with lots of screens and cuts? What gives?
His speed...
He does have a lot of room for improvement though. Worries me but also you can look at it like he has the potential to improve in these areas which would make him a special player… time will tell.
Wow - I didn't see the whole game...
But Crawford got 18 points – he must have had a good game….
I mean , 18 points…. that’s impressive….
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He added 6 rebounds and an assist....
Those 6 rebounds were what did it for me…. I mean – he’s really more than just a scorer….
He can get 18 points and still grab 6 rebounds… That’s a multiple tool player right there!!!!
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He's not just a one dimensional player
18 and 6 – boy oh boy
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I can maybe even buy into his statement
that he’s better than Michael Jordan…. Just wait until the season starts and we get to see him do the same things he did in this game , 66 more times…!!!
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Sigh
This wasn’t a great game for either SG candidate. Young and Crawford were both bad.
Young wanted 9 million. Crawford is getting a million or so. I’ll take 18-6 from a player getting paid that little.
by GJennings on Dec 20, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ernie needs to lock up Crawford to a long term deal....
What did Michael get? $27 Million a year?
Of course, we can’t give him that…… but he’s worth the maximum extension…
Pay the man – he’s proven he can score in this league…
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more likely...
he forgot to turn green font on… .-)
Let the season play out
but I’m concerned with Wall’s game. I don’t know what happened but I thought he came out of the gate last year as a surprising pass first play maker. He doesn’t look any better to me.
I’m trying to keep from panicking but I’m starting to feel like he isn’t a franchise pick. Will Irving be better? God I hope not. Then with this year’s pick we get a Euro tweener who can’t shoot. Not a happy guy right now.
by edubz on Dec 20, 2011 10:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Probably just the pre-season
but I agree Wall has to show us a bit more. Where has Lockout-Wall been???
by Marine4Life51 on Dec 20, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
i think you're weighing too much on 2 preseason games. He hasn't received consistent minutes either, and they keep changing the personell on the floor with him.
He’ll be fine once he and NY and the other guys get a few more practices in together.
ahhh.... Who needs Young...
Let’s play Crawford more minutes – he had 18 points tonight….
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WTF, Rook
Nick Young was 3-10 tonight. Neither Young or Crawford made a good case. I’m not sure why you’re trashing Crawford. Guy wasn’t shooting well, but he was playing hard. Selfish, but hard.
It’s not like Young was a paragon of passing.
Anything but trashing Crawford....
Praising his scoring ability….
Didn’t you watch the game – He scored 18 points…
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Crawford is clueless
and so unimportant to the future of this team…
I know I'm being a bit rash
but there is something about Walls game that bothers me that I can’t quite put my finger on.
he got used to playing with Wade and Lebron and other all-stars over the summer.
so now that he’s stuck with these guys he doesn’t know what to do anymore. LOL
It's a lack of trust
You can tell that he’s not sure other people can make the shot.
agreed. and it makes sense when you look at what the guys do with the ball when he passes it to them
maybe he’s tired of watching crawford fire off horrible 3s and Blatche fading away from 18 feet out.
This is news to me
His handles look the exact same as last year, and they’re very poor. His handle is too loose and high, and needs to keep it tighter to his waist. He can’t even keep his dribble for a long time.
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Plus Minus on a game by game basis is a pretty meaningless stat
Sort of like points scored…..
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Flip
I will just remind that Wall was picked #1 and not Flip. Better see some progress this year Flip.
by edubz on Dec 20, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
With this schedule
38 minutes is way too much.
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