Videos From Day 3 Of Wizards Training Camp
by Mike Prada on Dec 12, 2011 8:01 AM EST
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PrintWASHINGTON, D.C. - The Wizards scrimmaged for a while on Sunday, and instead of doing my usual thing where I jot a couple notes down and mostly just watch, I decided to shoot some video on my phone. For actual text observations on the scrimmage that happened, Craig Stouffer has you covered.
A couple lingering thoughts from what I did see (keep in mind we only see the final part of practice).
- Surprised how good Roger Mason looked - had some good pep in his step coming off screens. Last time I saw him it was at Joe Connelly's workout, and he didn't look great. Game seemed to be too fast for him in several instances. Looked a lot better today on curls.
- JaVale McGee had a couple nice baseline hook shots, one of which is captured below.
- You can see the issue with Jan Vesely - there are just tons of possessions where he doesn't do anything. There are also a couple where he'll make an instinctive cut into open space and get a bucket. He's taking a little while to understand his teammates, but when he just plays, he can make a difference. I just fear there won't be a ton of possessions where he just plays.
- John Wall's jumper looks very good.
- Andray Blatche didn't scrimmage because he cramped up near the end of the practice. He toughed it out a bit during the final full-court drill, and for his efforts, he was awarded the hard hat. Instead of accepting, he passed it on to McGee, who probably wasn't used to getting some praise. "I felt like it was staged or something," he said.
Anyway, here are those videos. Keep in mind: just snippets here. I was trying to observe and shoot, and sometimes it's tricky to do both.
John Wall's awesome layup.
JaVale takes a lob from Mardy Collins.
JaVale finishes a nice hook shot.
Rashard Lewis scores, Jordan Crawford complains.
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Same here. No Vids.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 12, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Vesely having a long learning curve would really suck
I want the #6 pick to come in and demand 20+ minutes immediately.
yeah but
We have Singleton who should have an immediate impact. And Lewis, if he can get hisold game back. Vesely will have time to learn.
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by Danyon Rome on Dec 12, 2011 9:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LLC is pretty much a given. He should be adequate on his second contract though.
by ReturnofBillyJOe on Dec 12, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I see. So Blatche cramped up on the first day of scrimmage. That must be because he and his trainer worked TOO hard while getting in shape for camp…his muscles were so sore from all the training, he needed to take a rest.
by Tbonebullets on Dec 12, 2011 8:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is a hilarious quote from Mcgee!
Vesley is probably a little shell shocked right now, first time in his life no one is that awed with his athleticism and there is someone on the floor with him who is taller, longer, and can jump higher. Hopefully he adjusts quickly because he was the #6 pick in the draft and he’s going to get minutes one way or another.
I want Wall, Crawford, Vesely, Booker and McGee Flying down the court
I don’t think there would be another 5 in the NBA as fast as that group once they get it together on the FAST BREAK.
well, apparently Ves needs to be taught how to run properly first.
The most telling play of practice on Sunday was watching Vesely get out on the break, where he does some of his best work, and getting caught looking down at his own feet as he ran the floor and completely missing a long outlet pass from John Wall. Yes, as in he never saw it at all.
Yikes...
Here’s to hoping he’s not another Kwame Brown!
That's a bit of an overreaction.
Like mike said, he’s either there or he’s not. NBA ball is a completely different atmosphere than Euroball. Goran Dragic went through the same thing during his rookie season, where, at certain moments, he was arguably the worst player in the NBA. Fastforward to now, and Dragic is a respectable point guard that can be a good player in limited minutes.
The difference between to the two? Vesely’s ceiling is lightyears ahead of dragic’s.
Geting it done.
by Knowledge92 on Dec 12, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's overreacting to hope that a high draft pick
isn’t a collosal bust.
That said, Jan has all of three practices in and hasn’t even played in a preseason game yet so I’m certainly not declaring that he’s a stiff. I think DCrez nailed it – Jan isn’t the most athletic stud on the floor at the NBA level and is going to have to adjust to that reality. Couple that with getting the playbook down and having to react faster and it’s really no surprise that he’s not exactly beasting. If he’s a player, I expect him to get better as the season goes on.
I admit that Kwame probably wasn’t the best player to compare him to since Jan is confident and really loves basketball. Kwame, not so much. :-(
Impressed
I have been kinda impressed with some of the footage i have seen with Singleton. His jumper is actually looking nice and he had some nice on ball d and showed very good court awareness… i got all this of course on a small sample lol
by Shawn-Paul Muth on Dec 12, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions
Blatche still has a little bit of a middle-aged man's paunch...
Not convinced he’s turned the corner on his conditioning and work ethic, but I’m willing to let the season play out before passing final judgement. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Singleton take some of his and Rashard’s minutes.
http://www.nba.com/wizards/video/2011/12/11/Day3NightHighlightsmp4-1932250/index.html
Fun videos!
Nice energy. I am not worried about Vesely being another Kwame Brown (yet) either.
Question: Now that Prokhorov has jumped into the fray in Moscow, what does this bode for the Nets? My friends here in Warsaw are seriously questioning his sanity.
I have know doubt that Prokhorov could beat the bejesus out of Putin (who prides himself on his physical prowess), but this is not a one-on-one fight and Putin holds the whip hand.
There is no sense AT ALL...
In making snap judgments on Vesely. The guy’s had a couple of NBA practices! And the game in Europe is totally different from the game here. It’s worse, in some ways, than coming from college. It’s basically the same game for college kids, albeit at a much higher level.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Vesely, after a month or two, progresses faster than a typical rook, since he’s been playing professionally for awhile.
Patience, people. Patience. We’re still rebuilding…
by YellaFella on Dec 12, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 12, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
What's the Nick Young chatter at camp?
I’m guessing his agent is just waiting for Afflalo and Crawford to score obnoxious deals, inflating what Nick can try and ask for. I’m also hoping that doesn’t happen, and Nick is extremely disappointed by what Afflalo actually gets.
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by returnofswagger on Dec 12, 2011 11:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes, I am in this camp also...
Nick and his agent are clearly waiting to see what Afflalo and Crawford get. But the Warriors renuciation of Reggie Williams adds another twist to this tale. The fate of Gilbert Arenas is also at play in this.
Plus, none of the 2-guards are likely to be sorted until the sagas of CP-3 and Dwight Howard are resloved. If the Clippers are forced to part with Eric Gordon to get Paul, then they may be in the market for a quality off guard to satisfy Paul’s desire to be surrounded with viable talent.
This is more fun than the lockout, it must be said. The NBA is about to become a far, far different place.
At this rate
He’s going to miss all of training camp, and most likely one out of the two preseason games.
Do not like.
Geting it done.
by Knowledge92 on Dec 12, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
No news is good news. If you heard news then it would be a team giving him a huge bunch of money
Now we just wait and see what his offer will be.
by jmpalomo on Dec 12, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
reading the insider in the Wapo and watching these vids a couple things
-Seems like Mcgee is ready to have a nice season and Wall looks so smooth.
- Crawford tore it up shooting and has been playing well in camp interesting that Flip says Crawford looks like someone who wants to start no matter who is in camp maybe hi brand of crazy is accurate maybe he is that good. lol
-Singleton is raising all kinds of hell on defense he’s gonna be someone who creates alot of steals and creates alot of Havoc.
-Blatche still has fitness issues and still might be a tad lazy.
Not concerned about Vesley Mcgee shoulda kept his comments to himself and not dissed him basically saying to be the 6th pick I’m not impressed.
I think Vesley is probably a gamer plays better in games than practice his competitiveness ratchets up when the lights are bright.
From what I've seen Dray looks good.
Body-wise he will always be more of an Al Jefferson than a LaMarcus Aldridge.
And let's not forget the compliment he paid V. when he was drafted
Vesely’s game is most similar to JaVale’s, so they’ve got lots in common to begin with. It could be fun watching those two run the break together.
If this stuff about Vesely is true, Teddy...
…ought to send Veseley and EG to the D League.
Come to think of it, where was Ted for the last draft? He should have known of EG’s Euro trash history….
To be competitive, we need to get more talent from the draft after a 23 win season than somebody having trouble in practice.
by Izman on Dec 12, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
23yrs old and played professionally for 3yrs, cant even make an impact at practice on a bad team.
obviously cant judge him now, that would be silly, but for people who said all along he would be terrible pick it’s not a promising start. Make me eat crow Jan, please!
not worried _yet_
I remember Booker being bit lost during last summer-start of the season, I think its same thing with Vesely atm. He just needs to get used to team plays and diffrent ruleset.
More video
from Truth About It.
Javale’s one long dribble with his back to the basket is a problem.
Jan has a future passing from the high post.
Am I the only one worried about
McGee doing too good this season?? You know, just for salary cap reason wise, only if we can control his break out year…
Of course I'm not saying I would be against a break out year
by Young Wook Lee on Dec 12, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
If he breaks out this year
then he’ll probably have earned his contract.
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Yeah, nothing wrong with paying a legit core piece imho
It’s overpaying role players I’m worried about.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 12, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Blatche comes back from the lock out out of shape.
Surprise surprise. I wonder if he is still rockin that mini-beer gut he had from last season.
Who says he's out of shape?
I remember my soccer coach letting us run for like 40 minutes the first few practices of the new season. He always said that if we are not vomiting by the 30 minute mark, we didn’t run hard enough and then he let us run some more…. and if we didn’t have the cramps in our legs after another hour of practice we didn’t work hard enough.
I don’t think Flip gave him the hard hat for nothing.
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by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 13, 2011 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
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