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NBA Lockout: Rashard Lewis, The Amnesty Clause And The New Salary Floor (UPDATED)

UPDATE: A memo of the agreement obtained by Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated changes the numbers a bit. Read on for more.

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The NBA lockout is now (tentatively) over, which means we can start to think about what the Washington Wizards roster will look like next season.  We went over the basics in a previous post, but let's dive in a little deeper with the numbers and answer why using the amnesty clause (not agreed upon, but likely to be a part of the new deal) on Rashard Lewis will present a new series of problems.

First, let's take a look at the current salary situation.  Data via HoopsHype:

Number Player name 2011/12 salary
1 Rashard Lewis $22,152,000
2 Andray Blatche
$6,442,083
3 John Wall $5,530,080
4 Nick Young* $3,695,857
5 Jan Vesely** $2,554,200
6 JaVale McGee
$2,462,399
7 Kevin Seraphin $1,680,360
8 Trevor Booker $1,294,920
9 Chris Singleton** $1,237,500
10 Jordan Crawford $1,120,440
11 Othyus Jeffers* $1,059,293
12 Hamady Ndiaye* $963,872
13 Larry Owens* $963,872
14 Shelvin Mack*** $473,604
TOTAL **** $47,199,334

 

* = Qualifying offer

** = Rookie salary scale.  Chris Sheridan reported that the rookie salaries will stay the same as they were last year.  Here's last year's scale.

*** = This was the salary of Armon Johnson, last year's 34th overall pick.

****=Add in the spare $1,125,874 for Mike Bibby's buyout.

There's a problem here with the minimum salary floor.  Make the jump for more on that.

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The new agreement (or at least the one released to players before -- haven't seen any reported change in the current proposal) raises the team salary floor to 85 percent of the salary cap (it was at 75 percent) for the first two years, followed by 90 percent thereafter.  The salary cap for this season will be identical to the cap for last year, with the only difference being that it's all pro-rated.  Last year's salary cap was $58 million.  Eighty-five percent of $58 million***** is ... $49.3 million*****.

As you can see, then, the Wizards still need to spend some money.  Take away the qualifying offers for Young, Owens, Jeffers and Ndiaye, and the Wizards' total team salary will be $41,575,733*****.  That means the Wizards will need $7,724,267***** on at least four players in order to reach the minimum salary floor.  Lots of that can go to Young, so it's not like this is insurmountable, but it's worth noting.

But here's the thing: this is all with Lewis on the team.  If the Wizards use the amnesty clause on Lewis, that means 75 percent of his salary will be wiped away from the cap Therefore, the Wizards will need to spend another $16,614,000***** just to reach the salary floor, raising the total amount they need to spend to $24,338,267*****.

That's the big reason why I doubt Lewis will actually be amnesty'd.  This is a weak free agent class, and given where the Wizards are in the rebuilding stage, I strongly doubt they'll want to spend that much money this summer.  Instead, they'll keep Lewis, let him go next year and give themselves more money to spend in 2012, when there are a ton of marquee free agents available.  That would be the smart play, at least.

As for cap space, here's where the Wizards stand:

  • WITH LEWIS, WITHOUT QUALIFYING OFFERS: $16,424,267*****
  • WITHOUT LEWIS: $33,038,267*****

This isn't the summer to have $33 million***** in cap space.  Next summer?  Absolutely.  This summer?  I don't think so.

***** : all figures for an 82-game season, so all are pro-rated.

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UPDATE: Via the memo sent to the players, obtained by Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated, emphasis mine:

Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA (only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of the player's salary removed from team salary for Cap and Tax purposes.

In which case, Lewis' entire salary could go bye-bye, which would put the Wizards even further from the salary floor. Here are the updated figures if the Wizards were to use the clause on Lewis:

  • TOTAL TEAM SALARY: $18,364,440**** for nine players (minus the qualifying offers)
  • TOTAL UNDER THE CAP (assuming $58 million cap level): $39,635,560****.
  • TOTAL TO SPEND TO REACH THE FLOOR: $30,935,560****.

Seems to me this makes it even more unlikely the Wizards will use the clause on Lewis, unless there's a way to find $31 million**** in salary for next year that doesn't hamper the long-term rebuilding effort.

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Totally agree

Also, since Lewis is only guaranteed half of his salary or thereabouts in the final year of the contract, he’s still a theoretically useful trade chip. It also doesn’t hurt that he seems like a decent lockerroom guy and without him Pierre and AB are the “elder statesmen.”

by jakenbake on Nov 26, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah...

There aren’t really any good reasons to amnesty him, to be perfectly honest.

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Nov 26, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hope they keep Lewis

We need to preserve this amnesty for another time. Why use it when there are no major free agents this year, and we probably won’t be a highly desirable location for people to come just yet.

by DCSportsAllDay on Nov 26, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Trade Lewis and then use Amnesty

We have two very valuable chips here in Lewis’ partially guaranteed deal and the amnesty clause. It doesn’t make sense to not maximize the opportunity by just opting not to use amnesty.

Our cap space and Lewis’ contract allow us to help a team essentially use the amnesty twice. The timing of when to use the amnesty clause will be interesting. Will they make it for one season or one year or two years? Even if it is the shortest of those and only lasts a season, we would still be able to use amnesty as late as the draft.

I’d like to see us hold Lewis, trade him at the deadline or draft for a bad deal and another player or maybe high pick. We need a situation where we can be at 85% of the cap, acquire a couple of players that get us near the 100% mark and then amnesty the bad deal to drop back near the 85%.

We also have to be smart about which contract we take back because we want to preserve the summer cap room. So maybe we make a trade deadline deal that includes an expiring contract. The other option is to just add a quality player that eats up some cap space, but can help attract a big time FA since any move should still leave us with plenty of cash to spend.

Not saying this is what makes sense for us, but an example would be Rashard for Iggy and Elton Brand. Then you amnesty Brand, but still added the other large salary to be around the floor. There may be more details and considerations to that specific deal, but that gives the gist of how we can maximize our flexibility. And Ernie has shown that he can execute these types of strategies in the last couple of seasons.

by gorebd on Nov 26, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade Lewis and then use Amnesty

Amnesty must be used on a player that is CURRENTLY on the roster as of the date the new CBA is signed…..

That means that teams cannot sign a player , and THEN amnesty him… or trade for a player, and then amnesty him…..

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

is it curremtly on the roster

or currently under contract. Cause those are two different things and I thought it was the latter.

by gorebd on Nov 28, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think we'll ever use the amnesty

it doesnt save Ted any money, it’s more for competitive teams that want to make a move. We’re a 23 win squad, doesnt do us any good really

by DCrez on Nov 26, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Outside of a MAJOR FA play, I don’t really see it…

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Nov 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I see our approach to amnesty like the Hinrich situation

this is an opportunity to use financial savvy to improve our talent level. The easy/stupid thing to do would be to use Amnesty on Shard. The smart thing is to use Shard’s deal to give huge financial relief to a team like Orlando that needs to dump Gil and Turkoglu. Teams with those huge payrolls need to dump some of their bad deals. Right now, Rashard’s contract is one of the most valuable assets in the league. Use it.

by gorebd on Nov 26, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the big losers in this is Othyus Jeffers

He thought he was going to have a whole year to recover from that knee injury, but the season is starting in month. Will the team bring him back? I really liked him.

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by DMVLeGenD on Nov 26, 2011 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

I still don't understand argument for keeping Lewis simply b/c of the salary floor

When the Bobcats were significantly under the salary cap floor a few years back, no one forced them to sign/overpay for a free agent. What happened at the end of the season is each player received a bonus payment that was pro-rated based on the amount the team was under the salary floor. So in essence, everyone on the team got a nice-sized bonus check.

So the Wizards in theory should be able to amnesty Lewis without any concerns about having to overpay someone else long term. I think there’s a ton of benefits to having a great deal of flexibility with respect to the salary cap. BOYD scenarios, Lopsided trades, etc.

by Dat2U on Nov 26, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

everyone else in our situation will look to do the same thing.

considering that Lewis has been a character guy more or less, barring the PED fiasco, he should remain here, because there aren’t that many other guys with experience like he does and Blatche, McGee, and possibly Young as our only leaders may not be a good thing. Even though these guys now have to lead, whether they like it or not, an experienced star like Rashard isn’t easy to find, and given our situation, why try to get four bad contracts when we have just one?

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This type of leadership is overrated.

The idea that Lewis is some kind of ideal veteran leader for the kiddies is the same argument I heard for years with Antawn Jamison. Simply put, labeling someone a veteran leadersimply because they’re old, make a ton of money and give a pleasant interview is incorrect IMO. Just because someone is a veteran doesn’t make them a leader.

by Dat2U on Nov 26, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

true, but a leader by example figure (antawn is one)

Is someone we can use. Lewis also provides outside shooting that we don’t have with anyone else except wall if he improves his shot, and nick if he signs

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why must the Wizards continue to pay $20+ mil per year for leadership by example?

And we all saw how much of a influence Jamison’s leadership had in DC. LOL. If the Wizards really wanted leadership they could have had James Singleton back last season at a very marginal price. Bottom line, leadership by example is leadership that’s easily replaced.

by Dat2U on Nov 26, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Because the money is guaranteed. LOL.

Singleton was a case study for leadership by example, not leadership as you’re suggesting. The Wiz will keep Lewis because there isn’t really a situation outside of trading for Dwight that makes sense.

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Nov 26, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you on a lot of this

Like you, I think the leadership thing is overrated. I’m just not seeing another plausible scenario to get over the salary floor and improve the team for the long run.

by Mike Prada on Nov 26, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't the Wizards pay the money either way?

They just don’t count it towards the cap. So paying it not against the cap and then paying for being under the cap would take more out of Ted’s pocket.

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by Elvin_is_my_Elvis on Nov 27, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't need to spend 23M

 On a veteran leader.

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by kingme18 on Nov 27, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

again, the amnesty does NOT save Ted any money

in fact it would cost him more money to use it than to ignore it….why do that with a 23 win team that isnt contending for anything?

by DCrez on Nov 26, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

We will take any wins we can get, but this isn’t time to go all in yet

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 2:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

No one is saying go all in yet

But I’m saying if we have an opportunity to increase cap flexibility, why not do it? What do we really gain from keeping Lewis at his current salary other than having that so-called “veteran leadership” around.

My original point is that Prada’s pierce about having to spend long term money to get to the cap floor is flawed. We can let Lewis go and do nothing or if the right deal comes around, we could be in great shape to make a move. People have mentioned about Lewis being a trade piece next off-season, well isn’t cap room actual cap room more attractive?

by Dat2U on Nov 26, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

lewis could rekindle some value as a player

if he performs well with us or any team really. Cap room is most attractive to free agents, and maybe a team in the tax that needs to cut salary.

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, Lewis looked pretty healthy when he played some pro-ams last summer.

If he is even 80% of what he was his last year with Seattle, he will contribute nicely. In fact, he should score quite a bit off outlets from Wall. And he rebounds acceptably well for an SF. There is no financial or roster reason to amnesty him at this point.

by khrabb on Nov 26, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Why not get the cap space

and use the cap space and faciliatate trades and pick up assets in the process like draft picks.

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by kingme18 on Nov 27, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I have yet to see the current rules....

but during negotiations, the players wanted teeth put into the “salary floor” – ie: teams that did not meet the necessary salary floor could forfeit luxury tax payments… or have other “penalties”…..

So it may not be as easy as just saying “cut Rashard Lewis” so the Wizards can have flexibility…. being under the salary floor may have serious ramifications. . We will need to wait to see the rules.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 26, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So you think the Wizards can spend $18 million on 1 year deals? i doubt it.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Nov 27, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Either way, we are going to have to add some higher paid players

I’d rather add 16 million in expiring deals (if at all possible), than have double that amount.

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

not sure

about keeping Lewis around I think there are dudes out there that can help th Wizards more than Lewis can and can be viewed as value as opposed to having him around limping through another season a vet for Flip to over rely on retarding the growth of players like Vessley and Singleton. And everyone knows Flip and what he would do.

Tough call are we really gonna be players for the big free agents next summer I doubt it. Unless Dwight Howard see’s Wall a young pg and thinks oh yeah I want some of that to mix my talents with.

by jazzy1 on Nov 26, 2011 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Ask yourself, can Nick Young be a reliable starter on a contending team. Every time I ask myself that question I get the same answer, no.

by Dat2U on Nov 26, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think he can

He’s an ideal 6th man, but with a team that doesn’t have any better options why not? He’s a pure shooter that can space the floor and defend his man pretty well. He’s not a great team defender, but IMO, it isn’t as important for guards if you have bigs who can protect the paint (something we don’t have).

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by DMVLeGenD on Nov 26, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe
can Nick Young be a reliable starter on a contending team.

Ask Chicago if they would have wanted him last year, instead of the stubs they had at SG.

Ask the Mavs if they think Nick Young would be an upgrade over Deshawn Stevenson….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 26, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

I see your point but that is some backhanded praise there.

by ryasch on Nov 26, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well... of course I believe Young can be more than just "reliable"

We have seen what good coaching can do for him. Since Flip has been here (2 years), Young has gone from a no-conscious chucker that couldn’t care less about playing defense (when he was playing for Eddie Jordan) TO – A player that plays within the offense; and has one of the most deadly catch-and-shoot jumpers in the League – His attitude towards defense has done a 180, and he is at least a competent one-on-one defender. Is he a complete player? No….. but it’s only been:

Two years..!!!!.

How much better can Young get? Well……….. how much improvement would we expect a player with only two years experience to achieve over his third season? I have always maintained that Young’s first two seasons were wasted… and should be thrown out when talking about his “potential”….

He’s never been properly “coached”.. His entire career he was allowed to just do one thing; shoot the ball… EXCEPT now, Flip Saunders is demanding more from Young… and I, for one, think he can deliver more – - – - much more…..

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I've said this over and over NY has no bearing on the Win column

Mix in his lack of tangible leadership or accountability along with an unwillingness to pass the ball. and to me we are just better off letting him go.

by jazzy1 on Nov 26, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And replace his 20 points per game, with what?

Not to mention the fact that he’s the ONLY deep threat on this Wizards team (45% from three in catch-and-shoot situations – Synergy)

You invite teams to pack the middle – deny John Wall ANY driving lanes – and assure the Wizards of being the worst offensive team in the League.

You think Jordan Crawford can replace Young? Just wait until the season starts, and neither Crawford or Wall can penetrate (with 5 defensive guys packed in the lane) – and see how the Wizards offense crumbles into play after play of Blatche going one-on-one…..

If there were a better Shooting Guard out there in Free Agency (and I mean a REAL option, not some pipe dream), the Bulls will snap him up before the Wizards can even make an offer.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey now

Let’s not forget Andray bombing from 18-23’. That’ll get the spacing job done, no?

by jakenbake on Nov 27, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's ridiculous

can he be the second best player on a contending team, no, can he be the the 4th best player, absolutely. NY is better than plenty of players that have started on NBA championship teams.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Nov 27, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

This doesn't make sense

The owners came into the negotiations claiming they were making huge losses. Yet by raising the salary floor, they are requiring themselves to spend more money.

The number of max roster spots hasn’t changed, so by raising the floor each team will have to give each player a bigger piece of the salary cap pie to abide by the rules. As the floor is now 90% of the max, this gives only about 5mil (based on last years figures) of wiggle room, increasing the chances that the team goes over the cap at some point. It doesn’t make much sense to me

by BballBrit on Nov 26, 2011 2:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

the owners were lying and the whole thing was a money grab

bri split went down from 57% to 51% that’s all they cared about.

by DCrez on Nov 26, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i think this is the purpose of raising the floor.

1. there is more revenue sharing and will revenue teams will have more money to spend on salary
2. Because players are guaranteed a certain percentage of bri, along with the more punitive tax, some salary from the high salary teams will go to the lower salary teams which have more money to spend from revenue sharing.

So in short, the revenue sharing agreement and the extent of shared dollars will show how much the owners believed in competitive balance.

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if the owners cared one iota about competitive balance the Melo rule would have been a blood issue.

Not to mention they just gave teams more flexibility to sign a few mega-stars and still have cash left over to fill out their roster. The Heat were held back by having to go after vet minimum players, so the owners instituted a rule that would allow them to sign more spendy players without exceeding the CAP. Why’d they do that? Because more than half the owners (at least) want the ability to create their own Heatles somewhere down the road!

by DCrez on Nov 26, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i think all owners have that side in them

But we know that only few will ever be in position to get that. The thing all owners can agree on is money but they had to compromise on the balance issue. I still think that is a legitimately issue and hope that it works out, even if all the owners cared about was money.

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

It does over 10 (or even 6) years . . .

A lower percentage of BRI to the players and a lower cap over the next CBA = a lower floor than would have otherwise been the case. They still come out ahead even with a floor at 85% or 90%.

e.g. rough-back-of-the-envelope calculation: over the past 6 years, the cap has increased at a rate of over $2 million a year. Based on the previous trend, the owners might have been looking at a cap of $72 million in six years. The floor under those conditions would have been $54 million by year six (almost a $10 million increase a year above where it currently is). By 2017 the floor would be close to what the ceiling is today. Under the new CBA, the rate of increase — if there is any — will likely be minimal. Additionally, more than half the league is already at or above 85 percent of the cap level anyways, so the adjustment shouldn’t be a major issue.

by Vegas010 on Nov 26, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He tweeted the other day

Something along the lines of, “Can’t wait to get back in the gym.” Right after he tweeted something about strippers and $20 bills. So the first one kind of worried me, the way he said it.

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by returnofswagger on Nov 27, 2011 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Quick Question

Any update on the condition of Othyus Jeffers’ knee?

by ThePGPhenomenon on Nov 26, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

2 huge one year contracts

Its better than having a guy we dont want

by jmpalomo on Nov 26, 2011 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What about this...

Give someone like Nick Young a 3 or 4 year deal. Give him most of the money coming this year then we would have space for next year. Would that be legal? 10 or 15 this year and then 1 or 2 the other years. just a thought.

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by Danyon Rome on Nov 26, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Greg Oden?

Could we try a similar trick with an offer to Oden? Try him out and see if the latest surgery solved his problems. His right knee has been fine since he had his first microfracture surgery.

by yop32 on Nov 26, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Dude must be Bitter Pisssed n anxious 2 knock heads OFF Sign Oden to a Front loaded deal if Possible Ern!!!

Taking a chance Oden instead of not amnesting Lewis would be the way to GO
But i think the Spurs are the team thats going to swoop in and take a chance Greg

by eltacoman on Nov 26, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i think we want big men who can run a little,

and I don’t see Oden fitting the ideal run and gun that we want.

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah thats tru tru

but if he show that he is healthy his trade value skyrockets we could nab a bigman that better suits Wall from another team much more easier than Lewis capspace i bet

by eltacoman on Nov 26, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I used to have super powers until my psychiatrist took them away.

by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, sure

But even then, we’re talking about $20 million plus still left to spend.

by Mike Prada on Nov 26, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If we amnesty Blatche and sign both Nick and Oden for about $15M total

We’d be over the floor, correct?

As for Oden not running, you cant have everybody leaking for a fastbreak. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GRAB THE REBOUND FIRST!

He could become an interior defensive anchor that rebounds and have a lowpost offensive presence in the halfcourt. Not sure but I bet he’s better than McGee in setting picks for Wall and Barnes Crawford.

by Dutch Hoopfan on Nov 27, 2011 5:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't mind giving him a Nick Collison type bonus

since OKC last year had to pay him over 10 million one season just to be above the floor.

by thewiz06 on Nov 26, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Crap, salaries can't decrease drastically
Typically a salary can decrease by the same amount it can increase. For example, since the Larry Bird exception limits raises to 10.5% of the first-year salary, the salary may also decrease by no more than 10.5% of the first-year salary.
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q47

by yop32 on Nov 27, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

A signing bonus isn't a work-around, either

For cap purposes:

A signing bonus is spread among the guaranteed seasons in the contract
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q65

by yop32 on Nov 27, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Cutting Lewis would mean committing to Grunfeld long term

Since Ernie would be in charge of all the cap space. I’d like to see the season play out before Ted makes that decision.

by djnnnou on Nov 26, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

speaking LONG TERM for the wiz, possibly the best aspect of the season not being cancelled

is that Ted will ostensibly decide whether to keep or can EG and Flip based on this year. Let’s see some results before throwing our lot in with these guys for another 4-5 years

by DCrez on Nov 26, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So Mike...

I’ve been perusing the Unrestricted Free Agents, the Restricted Free Agents and lists of potential Amnesty players to see if there’s anyone the Wizards might pick up at a discount….

I’d love to see the Wiz pick up some front court help in the form of a big man (Center or PF) that can rebound and shoot…. Mehmet Okur might be a good target.. especially if they could get him for a year or two for a vet minimum contract….. just not sure if he would get past Miami or Dallas….

Anyone else you see on those lists that might help the Wizards?

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by Rook6980 on Nov 26, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

free agents list is bleek

I don’t like any of the unrestricted for the Wizards all have issues. But I’d love to have Thaddeus Young here as a restricted free agent he fits this teams personality run and gun put him on the wing with Wall and he could live off his dimes. Him with Javale and others running the floor we could really create tempo on teams. Solid defender as well. He’s on the come as a young player would be an ideal fit.

by jazzy1 on Nov 26, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Amnesty Blatche?

Kind of curious as to not seeing Dray as an amnesty candidate.

by ChewinStraws on Nov 26, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Good Question

The prevailing consensus here seems to be to NOT amnesty Lewis, which I can understand for a variety of reasons. The question then becomes “if not Rashard, then who?”. Blatche seems to be the next candidate, but I also believe some team would be willing to trade for him since he is a decent to good player when properly motivated, I just don’t think he will ever work out here in DC, and would much rather the Wiz get something back in return for off-loading AB.

by Ron Carlos Jeines on Nov 27, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

But for the same total ammount just about or a little bit more I think

If Ernie thinks he’s not going to turn a corner (in D.C) it could be in the best interest of the team to amnesty AB.

However, if we use amnesty I’m for trading the amnesty albatros that is Lewis’s contract (or maybe AB) for another bad one and an asset or two. That way, we get better by adding pieces as aposed to by substraction.

by Dutch Hoopfan on Nov 27, 2011 5:44 AM EST up reply actions  

The main reason I'm intruiged by waiving AB

Is that it gives more minutes to Seraphin, Booker, Singleton and Vesely since Lewis, Singletonand and Jan could see minutes at the 4 as well as the 3. In that way we know what we have in them by next summer when we can fill remaining needs via the draft and in free agency with Lewis’s contract as a trade chip

by Dutch Hoopfan on Nov 27, 2011 5:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Amnesty Lewis and then sign two Nick Collison style contracts

Sign Nick Young to a contract that pays him $13M, $2M, $2M, $2M

Do the same for someone like Josh McRoberts or Nenad Krstic.

That way, we’d have bolstered our depth considerably for 2012 and beyond without significantly impacting our salary cap

by nate33 on Nov 27, 2011 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

not sure Nick Young likes this offer.

by isum on Nov 27, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

You can't just go around signing Nick Collison contracts lol

That was a very specific case, one that Nick’s doesn’t meet.

by gray16 on Nov 27, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

As I noted above, you can't structure a contract with drastic year-to-year salary reductions

Year-to-year salary changes are restricted to a max of 10.5% for your own players, 8% if you’re signing another team’s free agent.

by yop32 on Nov 27, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Before amnesty

Focus on our needs. We finished the year 26th in FG percentage and 25th in defensive rebounding.

Looking at the team, we have two finesse players at the 4 and 5.

We had only one player who shot better than 35% from the 3 line.

We used the number 6 pick to address neither void.

Net, net: Either Blatche or McGee needs to go and we need someone who can play d and rebound. And we need to resign Young and get somebody at the 3 who can shoot.

Presumably Lewis can play the 3, but he ought to be on the block for a younger stud.

by Izman on Nov 27, 2011 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah - for a team that wants to run

being 25th in the League in Defensive rebounding isn’t going to cut it…..

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well with Yi off the roster, I think out position could jump 5 positions immediately lol

If Booker gets the minutes Yi was getting, that would boost our rebounding a whole lot. Factor in an improved Seraphin, and that could also help.

At SG, on the one hand we got one of the worst rebounding sgs in the league, and on the other we got one of the worst shooting (percentage wise) SGs in the league… one of them is gonna have to improve their weakness, or both of them need to go.

At SF you got Vesely and Singleton, who we can hope will allow Blatche and McGee to stay at the rim instead of coming out to meet players who blew by their man.

At PF you got Blatche, who at the end of seasons rebounds extremely well, but throughout the rest of it is either good or horrible… Let’s hope he can sustain this end of the season ability he tends to tease us with.

At Center you got a great rebounding Center, who changes shots, but unfortunately is bad at defensive positioning. If he can improve that, our rebounding numbers rise tremendously. That’s a big if, even for a young guy since its McGee though.

Our shooting will improve if John improves his jumper, Jordan improves his shot selection, Vesely doesn’t shoot the ball too much, and Andray regains his confidence. McGee, Booker, Singleton, Lewis, and hopefully Vesely (if the chemistry develops) should be getting shots created for them, in which case they won’t shoot much, but shouldn’t shoot poorly. That’s on Flip and John though, but I have faith in both to do that.

by gray16 on Nov 27, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

At Center you got a great rebounding Center,

Sorry – but I don’t buy that…. 7.49 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes is poor. He was 41st in the League in Defensive rebounding, behind such POWERHOUSE players like Kevin Durant and Roy Hibbert – and behind notoriously bad rebounder Amare Stoudemire.

If the Wizards want to run this year, they NEED a stud rebounder…. JaVale was better last year, but he’s STILL not the answer. (unless he doubles his defensive rebounding production this year – highly unlikely).

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But how much of this is due to him being out of position

rather than not getting the rebound. Much like stats don’t tell the entire story with Nick, they don’t for Javale.

Javale tends to go for the block in many times leaving himself out of position for the rebound. If he focused on rebounding as much as he did getting blocks, he would get a lot more rebounds imo. Great may be a stretch, but he can definitely be a good rebounder.

The Wizards were 28th in defensive rebounding last season, but 3rd in offensive rebounding. That’s not a matter of ability, that’s a matter of mindset. Javale is a good rebounder, he just needs to get his head on that part of the game. We saw flashes of that last season. Will it continue, that’s the question.

by gray16 on Nov 27, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Absolutely agree

that JaVale CAN be a good defensive rebounder, if he stops going for every block, and stops leaking out on every possible break……

IF (AND that is a big IF), IF Javale concentrates on playing defense with his feet, blocks out, and really goes after every defensive rebound hard with two hands – then he COULD be a good defensive rebounder…. Unfortunately, I have zero faith that he WILL .

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yes

I have my doubts as well. But I will continue to dream that Javale grows up one day soon, but it’s not looking good right now.

by gray16 on Nov 28, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Numbers aside

The eye test tells you, he doesn’t have it in him to be a rebounding center(which is like saying your PG doesn’t have it in him to facilitate, which is rarely good). He doesn’t take it as his responsibility to grab the board. He doesn’t fight for anything that isn’t easy. I don’t think the fundamental mentality of a player can change, let alone the meat Javale needs to put on his bones, not over night.

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by returnofswagger on Nov 28, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Stay quiet this free agent period

This is a down year for both the draft and free agents. I would resign Young if they don’t have to break the bank to do so, otherwise let him walk. This is tan other season we need our young players to get court time and improve to see what we have. Next summer’s draft and free agency/trade period will be much more lucrative.

On that note, having Lewis’ then expiring contract (and amnesty option), Blatche’s low-mid range salary, and hopefully Young’s low-mid to mid range salary will all be useful trade assets. Lewis for salary matching and cutting purposes. And the other two either as affordable desirable vets that can provide the extra touch of scoring a team needs, or affordable salary matching pieces that don’t scare teams.

The only downside I see is them potentially taking away court time from young guys. Except in the case of Young. I don’t think we have anyone who can take over at the two spot.

by segastyle on Nov 27, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

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