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NBA Lockout Update: 15-Hour Barganing Session Yields Progress

It looks like we're finally on the right track to solving this NBA lockout. The two sides spent 15 hours talking among themselves in New York yesterday, and afterwards, both sides indicated that progress was made

"We were able to work through a number of different issues today regarding our system," union president Derek Fisher said. "We can't say that major progress was made in any way, but some progress was made on system issues. Obviously enough for us to come back."

The two sides essentially tabled all discussions of the Basketball-Related Income split and focused on system issues instead, which is what Billy Hunter said the NBPA asked the owners to do last week.  Unsurprisingly, doing this caused for some real progress to be made, though David Stern was careful to say that there is still a ways to go.  I haven't been able to find a link detailing the actual concessions made on both sides, but given that Stern is still talking about an 82-game season and the NBPA is setting high expectations for Thursday's session, we may finally be getting somewhere.

Both sides seem to agree that the BRI split issue will be easier to deal with once system issues are solved.  We'll see about that.  It's also worth noting that these sessions have been with only a few important parties on either side, and selling whatever they come up with to their constituents is another ordeal entirely. 

Nevertheless, it appears we're finally getting somewhere.  Then again, we've been here before.

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yup

it’s not really progress to agree upon things only to have KG or Ted blow it up when presented to the full group. The small group on each side have by now learned to work with each other but they arent making the decsions

by DCrez on Oct 27, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even if a handshake deal was made this week

there is still a chance that one of the two sides may not fully accept this deal.

And if the deal was accepted there could be enough owners and/or players who aren’t happy with it which plays into the theory that the next CBA negotiations will be even nastier.

by thewiz06 on Oct 27, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Too many emotional highs and lows for me have set my meter to ‘burnout’

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Oct 27, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

im not over whelmed

im not under whelmed..

im just….whelmed

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Oct 27, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed,

especially since “Key point: both sides say BRI was not discussed, with Silver adding ‘they know where we stand.’ That has to be a reference to 50.” (That quote’s from a Henry Abbott tweet.)

by MeToo on Oct 27, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry,

meant to post as a reply to Dutch.

by MeToo on Oct 27, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

here we go again

either the owners were seriously playing chicken with the players Or the key negotiators are agreeing to something the zealot small market guys will look at and still say heck no we want them to miss games. I can see Ted saying this because of how Hockey played out. Ted might need to be put in check by Stern.

seems like Stern’s agenda is different than some of his owners because I keep hearing about them playing the full 82 and this has been said going back over a week or more.

but then he gets on tv with this long face talking about games are done possibly till christmas just for affect. for his had liners.

Players are being toyed with here.

by jazzy1 on Oct 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's Play Ball Baby!

At this point I really don’t care what they agree to.
(except for the Franchise Tag because I want to be stingy and greedy, and not see John leave for a very, very long time)

by jmpalomo on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Steven A. Smith thinks a deal could be done in a week?

Ok, Steven….

I just want the wizards back on ******g tv again…I leave for Air Force basic soon. It’d be nice to catch something like 10 games.

Until then I have to watch insert quarterback here destroy the redskins secondary every sunday. Fuuuuuuuuu…

by DCeee on Oct 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll be studying abroad in Cairo

I’d like to see at least one game of the new bionic John Wall in my native time zone…

From the District of Columbia, home of the hyperbolic paraboloid transitional floating zone defense.

by mr. 91 on Oct 27, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at the bright side

if he hast to play in europe because of a cancellation you wouldn’t have to get up in the middle of the night…

I like the Bullets

by K-Bro on Oct 28, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Uggghhh

The good news of the week! Seems to always come on Thursdays…

I guess tomorrow we can look forward to headings like:

“Meetings end, no progress made, no future meetings being scheduled, more cancellations on the way”

all over again. Hate to be pessimistic, but my hopes have gotten up a couple of times after a bunch of articles proclaiming progress, only to be shot down the next day with bad news of a continuing lockout. I’ll get my hopes up when the ink is drying on the the new CBA…

by gray16 on Oct 27, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Maybe they are beginning to notice

no one cares anymore and that the NBA is becoming irrelevant because every one thinks the season is going to be cancelled. Its time to dollop out the hope. Still 82 games. Still on track. A little late to the station, though. Blah blah blah. I think Thursday is their last chance to keep any one interested. After that it will be, whatevehs Stern. Its football season. No one cares any more.

by hambonejackson on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

I don’t see where we have had this much optimism since the lockout began…so to be honest, we haven’t been in this situation before during this lockout.

by The Agent C 83 on Oct 27, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

These 'yields progress' reports

Have no affect on my pessimism at this point.

I'm a Wizards fan. We've been trying to tell you about Lebron for years. Hated the man before it was cool.

by returnofswagger on Oct 27, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I find it amusing/sad (not sure which) that

the union can’t proceed negotiating without Murphy. Nobody else understands the BRI?

(Also, what’s up with the site? Been trying and trying and trying to post . . .)

by MeToo on Oct 27, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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