JaVale McGee Is Not Pleased With His NBA 2K11 Rating

by Sean Fagan on Sep 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT in Off Topic

The ratings for NBA2K11 have been released, and many of the rankings have left both fans and players confused. Probably the most egregious sin in the eyes of Wizards fans is that JaVale McGee has received a overall 59 rating, which makes him the third worst center in the league, behind only Darko Milicic and Joel Anthony. In fact, McGee is easily one of the worst starters in the game, joining such luminaries as Josh McRoberts and Linas Kleiza.

JaVale is suffice to say, displeased:

how am i a 59 n 2k11 and how is twan a 71 he should atleast b 80... 20 n ten anydayless than a minute ago via webJaVale McGee
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When creating the rankings, it is unclear whether the designers used alley-oops as part of their decision making process. Or perhaps they are just really big fans of boxing out, and punish accordingly. Be sure to insert Kevin Seraphin immediately into your starting lineups. Or in a pinch, Hilton Armstrong.

The good news is that the other Wizards may have been bumped up a bit, perhaps in part due to McGee's perceived ineptitude. John Wall receives and overall rating of 81, which puts him only four points back of Derrick Rose. Gilbert also still receives respect from the game, garnering and ranking of 83, which is respectable considering he hasn't worked full time in three years.

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Ouch

Normally I don’t give too much weight to these rankings, but that is historically harsh. I’m glad that he almost made Team USA so that he at least has SOME validation. Hopefully this just motivates him.

I wonder what his NBA Elite 11 ranking will be… I’ve always been a 2K fan (ALWAYS), but I feel like the demo is a little weird this year and I like Elite 11’s control scheme a lot. If only the two could combine into one actually great basketball game. I don’t feel like we’ve had one since Double Dribble.

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by Juice over Whine on Sep 24, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions

EaSports makes terrible video games.

Madden is such a joke. They put not effort into developing the game b/c they know it will sell. Only NFL game. That’s sad.

NBA Live(Elite) is a bad game…the only thing it has going for it is the decent team play. They should expand on that.

by tw10 on Sep 24, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

forgot to add

that I think the Ratings are based on overall SKILLS…maybe athleticism doesnt factor too much into it. JaVale’s strengths lie in his ability to run and jump…

Hopefully he can actually dunk this year. Thats all I care about. Last year he could block ANYONE. Im somwhere around 5000 in versus rank…I play with the Wiz and Warriors. This year will be a lot tougher…no Mike Miller dropping 5-6 threes a game.

by tw10 on Sep 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions

How do you know Elite is a bad game?

It hasn’t even come out. I’m with ‘Juice over Whine’ though. I started off with Live but have been with 2k since Iverson was on the cover. Problem is it doesn’t seem they the gameplay is improving, it might actually be getting worse (see 2k8). I like Elite’s new concept of FULL CONTROL, and if I have to sacrifice graphics and post game highlights videos (aka nonsense) for better gameplay, I’m all for it

by qthaballa on Sep 26, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions

I liked the first Courtside of that series

On I think it was N64. The second one was horrible, as was the GC version.

2K really hasn’t changed all that much since 2000. Same basic look and feel. NBA Live has declined since ’96-97 in my opinion, but back then the game was much more arcade.

Would be nice for a third party baller to surface, as well as a Madden competitor. Madden 11 for Wii is laughable at best, but online isn’t that bad (yes, I’m a Nintendo loyalist, haha).

by GvP on Sep 25, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't play video games much anymore

but the rankings seem in line from what I’ve seen from McGee. Before you all kill me let me say I actually like McGee’s potential!! But when I watch him play he comes across as someone who does not understand the game, at all! I hope he can put it together but I just don’t know, I hope the Wiz bring someone in to work with him

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by WhiteBoy-4-3 on Sep 24, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions

So you think McGee is worse than Joel Anthony?

by Parks Smith on Sep 24, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

As I understand it

Each player gets a rating in several different categories, such as ball handling, passing, rebounding, and post defense. The overall rating is a weighted average of the values in all of those categories, with the weighting dependent on the position. For centers, most of the score is a function of post defense and rebounding, the areas JaVale needs to work on most.

The overall score doesn’t actually mean very much, especially when it comes to comparisons between players at different positions.

Also, I think they update these numbers during the season for anyone who goes online and downloads the updates/patches. Extra incentive for JaVale to do what everyone keeps telling him to do.

by yop32 on Sep 24, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

It's an interesting list of categories, if partially subjective:

Here’s a breakdown of John Wall:

John Wall
Overall 81
Inside N/A
Close 70
Medium 75
3PT 66
PostShot N/A
FreeThrow 75
Layup 96
Dunk 66
StandDunk 30
OffDribble 71
InTraffic 58
Handle 93
OffHand 91
Security N/A
Pass 84
Block 39
Steal 77
Hands 88
BallDef 84
OffReb 36
DefReb 39
OffPost 27
DefPost 28
OffAwr 82
DefAwr 77
OffClutch N/A
DefClutch N/A
Consistency N/A
Stamina 99
Speed 96
Quickness 98
Strength 46
Vertical 98
Hustle 82
Durability 85
Potential N/A
Emotion N/A

by doclinkin on Sep 25, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Wow

I think his onball D, hustle and Dawareness are to way to high. He has the talents to become a great defensive player yes, but he never showed anything thát outstanding in college nor summer league IMO.

His offencive rebounding and freethrow looks a bit low as does his dunk ability and shot off dribble (witch is the only type of J he made consistantly in college)

And dude, 81ovr?? Wow

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by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 25, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Isn't "Defensive Awareness" a category? That's gotta drag him down a bit.

Of the 5 Wizards they have (Wall, Gil, JHo, Blatche, Javale) he’s the worst by a decent margin, isn’t he? Flip is going to have to show restraint not to get frustrated and give too many of his minutes to other guys. At this point he’s really raw and I think most starting centers ARE better than him. He got the same rating as Nenad Kristic, which feels right. I’m expecting to see growth over the season, but as of right now I kind of agree.

It’s unfortunate that McGee shows so little appreciation for the importance of defense (see his Jamison comment). Speaking of which, I’m glad to see they got Blatche>Jamison right, if only just.

by steadyhand on Sep 24, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions

The Jamison comment

McGee is just sticking up for Jamison. Yes, Jamison isn’t going to rank high for post defense or defensive clutch, but Jamison, at his best, is still capable of 20 and 10.

I’m pretty sure McGee is ranked about the same as 69 overall or worse in NBA 2K10. I’ll post his 2K10 stats in a bit for comparison purposes if someone will post the full from NBA 2K11. Cyber vanity aside, 2K10 had so many bugs that I will probably never buy another 2K title without renting it first.

by GvP on Sep 25, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

59 overall I meant

oops

by GvP on Sep 25, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Hm, McGee actually went down overall

Stats from NBA 2K10 on McGee:

Overall 60
Overall Off. 51
Overall Def. 51
Overall RB 90
AVG overall rating for Centers in 2K10: 73 (compared to 60 for McGee)
Inside 74
Close 64
Medium 58
3PT 25
FT 53
Layup 25
Dunk 69
Handle 42
Off Hand Dribble 30
Ball Security 34
Pass 25
Off. Post 57
Shot Low Post 52
D Low Post 46
BLK 92
STL 57
ORB 94
DRB 69
SPD 54
STAM 62
DUR 63
D AWARE 49
O AWARE 52
STR 39
VERT 81
Shoot Off Dribble 31
Shoot in Traffic 52
Quickness 51
Hustle 37
Hands 37
On Ball D 27
Standing Dunk 85

Thing I’d argue most is speed. McGee isn’t a slow dude, and 54 seems sorta low. Wonder if they upped that any in 2K 11. In 2K10 I traded Josh Howard for Tayshaun Prince and got Big Z for I think Livingston and someone else.

by GvP on Sep 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

McGee kinda sucked in 2k10....he was a 64 OVR

Now he’s 59?!? Man, if he has any lower awareness than that he will constanly grab a Refferee instead of boxing his man out (how anoying was that in 2k10 haha).

54 speed is a bit slow yes but for centers in 2k10 its faster than most.

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Johan Cruijff

by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 25, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Those are stats from last year's game hehe

Will have to see if anyone will post 2K11 (not sure if my stats are progressive due to season etc? in 2K10..)

by GvP on Sep 25, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Boo F-ing Hoo, dude.

Show everyone how wrong it is this season.

Got to be the stupidest motivational tool ever.

by MR on Sep 24, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions

Stupid, but effective

Some of these guys probably spend almost as much time playing the video game version of themselves as they spend practicing.

by yop32 on Sep 24, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Very sad, but likely very true

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by CJ Hempfield on Sep 24, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

What's wrong with playing a game man?

Its fun playing with friends online or at home. Basically gaming is today’s family bord games (not sure if thats the correct english word for it) and its better than watching tv all day.

Dont be grumpy dudes, you’ll sound old ;-)

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Johan Cruijff

by Dutch Hoopfan on Sep 25, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs