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Breakout year for Yi?

 

 

I saw a post about Yi Jianlian spending five weeks this summer working with respected coach, analyst and trainer David Thorpe at the Pro Training Center on truth about it. He had some interesting things to say about Yi's time there. Heres the link to the full article http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/08/discussing-the-fortunes-of-yi-jianlian-with-david-thorpe.html#more-9093

On the impression Yi made on the court there...

"In our gym he blew us away," the coach said. "We were told by his agent, Fegan, that we would be shocked by how athletic he was and we were. All my players in the gym were shocked. All the coaches were shocked. And I think he shocked himself."

"He was dunking everything, and beating guards down the floor, and stripping guards, and making plays full-court in transition with the ball in his hands. His strength coach, who is with him full-time, said he’s never seen him do that kind of stuff before."

On his attitude while there

. "He absolutely killed it. Never missed a workout, never missed a drill. He just gave himself to us in a way that a lot of players in his position wouldn’t necessarily do."

On being accepted by the other NBA players participating

"All of a sudden, his personality came out, and he became a fun guy to be around. He brought spirit to practice. He was just a different guy,"

On his versatility and playing with John Wall

"I think there are threes he can guard, but I don’t think it’s a smart thing to play him at the three," said Thorpe when I asked him about  Jianlian’s positional versatility between the three, four and five spots. "I think he’s a face up four that can bang it down low a little bit. He’s very skilled with either hand." Thorpe said that around a third, half on some days, of the shots Yi practiced in Florida were left-handed shots.

"I think he should play a game like Rashard Lewis," said Thorpe, "Shoot the three, play a shot fake and attack game and spread the floor. He should be really, really effective in transition with John Wall because Yi is unbelievably fast."

"With John Wall, I would think they’ll really go up-tempo and spread the floor," speculated Thorpe on the game plan of Flip Saunders. "That’s exactly what Lian needs because he’s so fast, he’s so agile and he’s so skilled. You can throw it to him running full speed at the top of the key and he can put the ball down once and make a move and score."

 

Thorpe also says later that with Blatche still recovering the idea of a McGee and Yi frontline, while having potential as a pretty funny sounding nickname, Yi and Mr. McGee?, isnt ideal since neither of them has ever, well, you know, rebounded or played post defense consistently, or at all. Still this has to be encouraging and I wouldnt be surprised if Yi isnt a one year rental, but a long term piece of our return to relevance.

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Good points

I don’t like Yi, he doesn’t seem to have a lot of heart and I don’t think he’s an accurate enough shooter, but it’s always good to be reminded that he’s actually EXTREMELY athletic and moves very fluidly. I think he’ll be a one year rental, but he definitely has the physical tools to be a very solid, maybe even very good player. The Rashard Lewis comparison is a lot better than the Dirk ones people always give to seven footers who can shoot, but his game actually reminds me a bit more of Jason Richardson, as odd as it sounds – in theory, he should be able to get all his points off of threes and transition finishes/cuts while rarely having to dribble much.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

He would be a monster over here in Europe

Probably play along side a big center like Schortsanitis (summerleague shag) and spread the D.

I´m wondering, could he play with any of our other big man?

by Dutch Hoopfan on Aug 8, 2010 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know very little about Yi's game.

but I know he is really talented for a big guy. And I felt like either I was giving him way too much credit, or people were just selling him short. I thought he was a pretty solid prospect. I guess we will see when the season starts.

by returnofswagger on Aug 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm excited to the Wiz

frontcourt is soo up in air, but so many players with potential and the the backcourt with Wall and Arenas will be fun. Definitely for this season tos start.

by DaGribb on Aug 7, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Breakout?

I believe I’m in the minority in that I was happy that the Wizards traded for Yi. I like his
potential at the small forward position. But it seems so many people think Yi is a bum,
I’m afraid to believe in him. What he needs is a breakout year. He has so many doubt-
ers at such a young age, he’s going to have to prove himself with whatever minutes he
recieves. Deep down, I believe he could be a heck of an NBA player. But it’s time for him
to show more than potential…simple as that.

by Herb Harris on Aug 8, 2010 5:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Thorpe

Is infamous for hyping the guys he trains over the summer. Ever since he hyped Jared Jeffries (after he joined the Knicks) I stopped taking his opinion as trusted fact. Its in his best interest to create a more favorable opinion of his client.

by Jheiser3 on Aug 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Seems like most of these guys do that

Maybe it’s a confidence building thing — part of their coaching responsibilities to publicly say the guy is fantastic to pump him up.

by steadyhand on Aug 9, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come to think of it

Have you ever heard of a trainer say the guy they were training was anything but great? I haven’t. It would be great though. I would love to read this sometime:

“Yeah, John Doe has really been dogging it. I push him as hard as I can, but he just doesn’t have any heart.”
“He shot 200 jumpers yesterday…well he was supposed to shoot 500, but whatever…anyway, he made 32 of 200 threes yesterday. He really has no outside jump shot whatsoever, and I don’t think that’s gonna change.”
“I had him join a scrimmage with some high school and college players I work with to see if that would fire him up. He really got pushed around a lot inside despite being one of the bigger guys out there. I just don’t see him earning much playing time this year.”
- Quotes from soon to be unemployed trainer

by steadyhand on Aug 9, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great point

Saying what a trainer truly believes would have a negative impact on his pocket. Maybe he could do it if he reached cult status (Tim Grover), but even then he would likely not say anything negative publicly.

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by CJ Hempfield on Aug 10, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

no one will hold it against them, as long as they aren’t trying to snow GMs like they do the media.

Say he’s working his butt off. Say he getting better. Don’t act like he is a new player.

by Jheiser3 on Aug 15, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basic summer league story

Wasn’t Nick Young poised for a breakout last summer? Players spend the summer in the gym, reporters spend the summer writing about how this could be (_____’s) year.

If Yi works out, that’s great. But let’s wait until December before deciding anything about him. His problem has never been “can’t score 20 points.” His problem is consistency and defense.

by sierradave on Aug 8, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

And rebounding

A guy with his tools – seven feet tall, long, and athletic – should be able to average at least 10 or 11 boards per 40 minutes.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 8, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yi

Posted this on a different thread but repeating here…

I live in China so was able to watch several of the Stankovic Cup games. Yi’s stats for the cup games indeed look impressive, but unfortunately I didn’t really see any significant chnage in his game. Most of his points came off of outside jump shots or dunks in transition. I doin’t recall any post-ups or put-backs from offensive rebounds, at least in the games that I watched….

by pk24 on Aug 9, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Who anybody like the Yi trade?

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 9, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no problem with the trade.

I’d give it about a 6. Whereas I’d give the Howard signing about a 4.5.

by MR on Aug 9, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually like the howard signing as much as yi because

It fits the position need and gives us another asset come trade deadline, and it’s only a one year commitment.

by Young Wook Lee on Aug 9, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

my point is I’m ‘meh’ on both of them. One with a slight positive slant, one with a slight negative.

by MR on Aug 9, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he is better than Ross.

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 9, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Definitely more upside

The only drawback to having Yi is that it takes minutes from Dray and Booker and possibly Javale and Ndiaye.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 10, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

NDiaye is not ready to contribute yet IMO

Maybe Yi will get solid minutes at backup 5?

by tw10 on Aug 10, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would make sense to me

I’d prefer to see Ndiaye in the d-league and then get a call up any time Booker, Blatche, McGee, or Yi is injured. I’d like to see Armstrong get some minutes at the beginning of the year, too, but I’d rather see Ndiaye get a chance to develop ahead of him.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 10, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw some chatter recently about a Euro team expressing interest in Hamady. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

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by CJ Hempfield on Aug 10, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will likely take minutes from Booker, but I doubt he will affect Dray’s minutes. JaVale’s performance and fitness level / ability to cope with Asthma will have more of an impact on the number of minutes he plays.

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by CJ Hempfield on Aug 10, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yi Better than Booker...

I don’t see how at this stage Booker is better than Yi. He’s a nice player with a mean streak.
But he’s a little on the thin side…I mean I like him, but it seems to me that both those players
have quite a bit to prove, at this stage. You know, Booker didn’t exactly tear it up in summer
league(although I expected him to). One has to beat the other out for minutes. I think it’ll
be Yi. If Booker PROVES different, then the better player will be on the court, and then I’ll be
on the bandwagon.

by Herb Harris on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You need some decent backup bigmen

They cant all be great…im hoping Yi can turn into a solid stretch 4/5. Thats his best case scenario. 8-12 ppg. 4+ reb.

by tw10 on Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

i would be happy if yi gave those kind of numbers

by Ateneo on Aug 10, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice.

hope we see a lot of that next year. He can live in chinatown LOL

by tw10 on Aug 18, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Boyyy!

Yi’s a good athlete. Very fluid. He’s agressive too. If he’s able to increase his shooting
percentage, he’ll be a fine NBA frontcourt player…maybe a beast.

by Herb Harris on Aug 16, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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