Why the Heat Won't Win
Just like the Cavs, the Heat will have the most regular season wins, but will lose in the playoffs.
The strength of the team lies in its balanced and relentless scoring attack from Bosh, Wade and James. However, the team’s weakness is its lack of inside strength.
The key to beating the Heat in playoffs is having a plethora of big men. First, the big men need to take away James’ and Wade’s drives to the basket – literally pummeling them on every drive. Without going to the basket, James and Wade are just average jump shooters. For example, they shoot only 33% and 30% from 3, respectively. Second, the big men need to control both boards so as to cut down on the Heat’s fast breaks.
Who has the firepower upfront? The Celts have Shaq, Perkins, KG, Jermaine O’Neil and Big Baby. That’s certainly enough. Orlando will need to beef up, but Howard has demonstrated that he’s up to his part of the task. The Lakers have Bynum, Artest, Odom and Gasol. They will certainly get one bruiser before the playoffs.
How do the Wiz stack up against the Heat? Not well. While Arenas and Howard may make some games interesting, the Wiz won’t be able to stop the Heat when it matters. And there is no way that they can beat them in an up tempo game. When the Heat come to town, the Wiz should dust off Booker, Armstrong and Seraphin and run for cover.
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No one can stop James Jones, foolish mortal.
But that aside, and putbacks/dumpoffs aside, Miami’s front court focus will be rebounding and interior D. When they can key on and train that exclusively, they will probably surprise you.
Also, don’t write Haslem off, and Pittman, while having a low ceiling, was one of the centers coming out of the draft most ready to contribute right away.
That said, Miami’s front line is thin, and hacking Wade at this stage in his career is a good way to shorten it, and probably keep him out of the lane in the halfcourt…but the problem is as the defense collapses there will be open looks, high percentage shots, easy assists. What you’ve listed is the preferred strategy…but if the Thunder are one missed boxout from taking the Lakers to Game 7, suggesting the Heat won’t (read: can’t) win without a ferocious interior defensive presence seems a bit short-sighted unless you’re suggesting Andrew Bynum’s presence is the lynchpin of their last two championship runs…
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by Bullet Nation in Exile on Aug 18, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions
Agreed
Joel Anthony is horrible at everything except rebounding and interior defense…the only two things Miami’s bigs will be expected to do.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 18, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
the Lakers and Celtics > Heat
no way the Heat make it past either one of these teams…if the Magic get Carmelo then that is a 7 game series right there that can go either way…
Who on the Celtics can guard Wade and Lebron?
Tony Allen leaving is huge for them, I don’t know how they’re going to be able to beat Miami. LA could conceivably do it, though.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is going to be able to stop them, but Boston will do the best at containment.
With all their bigs clogging up the paint, the perimeter D doesn’t have to be sensational, seeing as Wade and James can’t shoot the 3. Ray Allen usually does a good job on the Wades and Kobes and Paul Pierce is pretty good against BronBron as well. Avery Bradley off the bench is known for some good D, Rondo could always switch on Wade.
by PhenomenalSwag on Aug 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
marquis daniel i heard isnt a bad defender himself
i think thats how you spell his name, and i think thats why they just let tony allen go (other than financial issues) but theycould have offered him some dough if they really thought he was essential to their last push (because the next two or so years is literally all they got left)
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 18, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Marquis cant gaurd Wade or LeBron...
there is a reason dude never played. He is an average defender and cant do much in the half court on offense.
But Gucci Mane shouted out to Marquis when he was on the Pacers
so that counts for something i guess..“Too Much Money” is the song, LOL
I think Wade/Bron/Bosh are good enough to overcome those weaknesses
But I generally agree that this is how teams will beat them in the playoffs. I think they’re too quick on the perimeter for Boston (the C’s got killed by quick perimeter teams last year), but Orlando and Dwight will give them problems, as will LA.
Yep
I think Chicago is one quick perimeter defender away from getting into the discussion, too.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i think chicago is a sleeper for beating the heat
they have brewer in that quick perimeter defender, and according to how team USA is going, rose is really stepping it up on the defensive end, and deng always matched up well against Lebron, so chicago might become Heat’s cryptonite, and I honestly believe that Noah can clog up the paint very well, with boozers big body to punch them around as well
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 18, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking at the match-ups
seems like legitamite competition for the Heat. Cuz I think Bosh is pretty useless when it comes to anything but scoring. I’m pretty sure he’s barely an above average rebounder. So Noah and Boozer totally have the upper hand on Bosh, Haslem, and whoever else it would be. Chicago could maybe use one more big man just for the fouls(not to mention a SG). I think Rose can run with anybody and he would own Chalmers. I think a Bulls fan was just born on BF.
by returnofswagger on Aug 18, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
don't be too quick to count out Haslem
Haslem might be undersized, but if he somehow manages being the Heat’s starting center come playoff time (which is entirely possible if Bosh manages to toughen up and/or Anthony underperforms on defense and the boards), then he’s good for 10-11 rebounds per game. He’s also a tough defender and a great hustle player. Considering how much defenses will be collapsing on the big three, Haslem’s mid-range jumper will prove invaluable. I’m not saying he’d do much to contain Dwight Howard or the Celtics plethora of big men, but when matching up with the Bulls starting big men, I’d say the Heat’s Bosh & Haslem tandem can certainly hold their own.
I see Haslem as a tough, hard working, hustler.
And I want guys like him on my team. But I dont want him in my starting 5. And I don’t believe Haslem could hold his own against a Noah/Boozer combination for 40 minutes a night in a 7 game series. Keeping in minnd, I think Noah is going to have an amazing season as far as his rebounding numbers go. His scoring should be up too. He and Boozer are undersized as a PF/C combo but I can really see them working well together.
by returnofswagger on Aug 20, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I want guys like him on my team. But I dont want him in my starting 5.
Are you aware that he has already started for a championship team? He was arguably the 3rd best player on the Miami’s 2006 team.
by steadyhand on Aug 20, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
True
However, to be fair to returnofswagger, he was a 4 guarding 4s then. If he stars, he or Bosh will have to check 5s.
Yeah, don't disagree there
It was more the ’don’t want him in my starting 5’ that seemed unfair to me.
And that I look forward to seeing.
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by CJ Hempfield on Aug 20, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
lol you too, not giving up on arenas just yet are we :)
and yes, I love the new bulls team, it’s like my favorite on 2k10 (i changed the rosters myself)
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 18, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe the Bullets (and every other team) will have to...
…conjure up the spirit of Wes Unseld! We will institute a league wide conspiracy rivaling LeTravel’s departure to South Beach! Through out the season every team will have to commit to pummeling Miami Thrice into submission! Pick a weak link, Wade or Bosh, and put “Unseld” worthy fouls on them! They must be punished for creating such an unbalance in the NBA!
"I get buckets, son!" Big Oily
"...I was supposed to go broke on that hand! Except they forgot one thing:
I CAN DODGE BULLETS, BABY" Phil Hellmuth
Miami is going to have a target on their back all season.
No question about it. But I dont know how much that actually means in todays NBA. Back in the day, a lot of players would have taken offense to the three of these guys teaming up to dominate the NBA. And Wade and company would have heard, seen, and felt it on a nightly basis. Guys would never give up an easy bucket and be giving everybody on Miami a shot every opportunity they got. And thats not cheating, and its no dirtier than Bron and Wade teaming up in the first place, its just sports. But in the NBA today pretty much everbody is buddies, and what young up and coming baller doesnt want to be Lebron’s and D-wades friend. So yeah I think that the target on their back could be their downfall in the end, if people were willing to give Miami everything they had, every single night, and it would be tough for them to stay healthy and have a full tank left come playoff time. But I doubt that will be the case.
by returnofswagger on Aug 18, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
I think you are absolutely right
Unfortunately I believe the NBA players will be as enamored as the media and fans will be and let the Heat roll over them! The thought sickens me! And my Bullets will be where they always will be….at the bottom! Yes, I’m a little bitter!! lol
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by WhiteBoy-4-3 on Aug 18, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope JWall develops that cold-blooded mentallity
like you see out of Kobe. Handshake and a laugh before the game? Sure. But Kobe isn’t messing around when he’s on the court. Especially in a close game. He isn’t applauding after D-Wade throws down a monster jam because one of his guys turned it over. He’s pissed. He’s not saying, “Wait can you repeat that?”, if Lebron tried to whisper in his ear at the free-throw line in the playoffs. He probably wouldv’e slapped Lebron if he tried that shit. Instead of Gil turning his head as if to say, “Hold on. I really wanted to hear that.” Maybe this superteam will start a trend of guys starting to get fed up with this stuff, but have some pride people. Like when Lebron walked off the court without shaking hands when he lost to Orlando in the playoffs a few years ago, that’s the stuff I’m talking about. If I was Dwight Howard, I’m done being friendly with him, permanently. If he wants to be like that to my team, then I’m gonna make sure he knows I’m going for the throat everytime I play against you, and I don’t care if he knows it or not. That is my biggest problem with the Wiz teams of the last few years. Antawn and Caron were always laughing and joking with Lebron before games against the Cavs. And that really eats me up. Cuz that guy was straight up disrespectful to our team sometimes. And I truly could keep venting about this stuff but we can call this the end of my rant I guess.
by returnofswagger on Aug 18, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
John Wall
in the rookie photo shoot/ orientation said that he has no friends on the court besides his teammates. Hopefully the other Wizards pick up that attitude.
DC4life
And I think that's exactly Kobe's mentality.
The fact that Ron Artest is now his teammate and they play perfectly fine together shows it. And Matt Barnes is now his teammate as well. They have had their beefs in the past, but thats just in the competitive spirit of the game. When I’m playing against you, to put it simple, you are my biggest enemy, and it isn’t really personal. Cuz when you are on my team, I got your back, in the end, no matter what. And I think the fame factor has a lot to do with this whole issue. Guys see that Lebron is more than just a basketball player, he’s a celebrity and a brand. And they don’t want to hurt their own celebrity by beefing with the biggest name in the game.
by returnofswagger on Aug 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
well he probably is just saying that because he sucks lebrons dick
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 20, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha.
We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Aug 20, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The key to the Heat’s success this season will be perimeter shooting. With 3 stars who can draw double-teams (ok, maybe 2 who can consistently draw double teams), that means other players should see open looks from outside. Chalmers, Arroyo, and House all shoot a 3-point percentage in the 30-percentile range. Mike Miller shot an incredible 48% from 3-point territory last season – though a statistician might look at the lower number of shots he took (“the shooter who didn’t shoot”) and say that that figure doesn’t mean much.
Anyway, the Heat have role players who can shoot. Opponents are going to have to either stick with single coverage for every Heat player (which has proven surprisingly effective against teams like Boston), or opt for an effective zone, assuming there is such a thing.
Little people
Chalmers, Arroyo and House are under 6’2". Miller is 6’8" so if he plays, the front court is 6’8", 6’8" and 6"10. Wade and Chalmers add 6’4" and 6’1".
This team would not do well on the boards. The opposition would be happy to keep them shooting from outside.
thats assuming miller plays sf
i think miller might start at sg and bring up the ball or wade bring up the ball which doesnt matter because they wade can give it to lebron and lebron can create and vice versa the pg role is not a big issue for them, i would assume that it then wouldn’t start a lineup like that against bigger teams, meaning it would actually be a lineup something like
6’4 6’8 6’8 6’10 7 (depending on who starts at the center position.. but you get the idea)
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 22, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a better line-up, but...
…who is their 7 footer? Biz Z? Who guards the opposition’s PG? In other words, this line-up would be better on the boards, but worse on overall defense.
I think LeBron will effectively become the point guard for the Heat. But that could create a leadership clash with Wade.
Before the pundits crown the Heat champions, the Heat have some issues to work out.
Not that Im a fan
but has LeBron ever had a problem letting someone else shoot the last shot? he doesnt care…It’s Wade’s team.
BOOK IT!!!!
Here are my reasons why they won’t win:
1. Chris Bosh is NOT, i repeat, NOT a superstar! How can he command max money when he obviously did nothing to get the Raptors anywhere past a 5th seed in the playoffs!
2. D. Wade is past or about to past his prime! His game from here on out will take a steady decline as injuries will start to take a toll on his overall physical ability.
3. LeBron James is starting to refer to himself in 3rd person! That can’t be good for anyone!
4. Their Bench – Are you kidding me?? People will say that Boston did it with 2 average at best starters at the time in Rondo and Perkins. However, lets not get to hasty in comparisons to Boston’s Big Three. They were all seasoned vets who came from teams that didn’t win for a long time.They were all superstars (not just all-stars) and were able to come togther for a common cause! They were not bosom buddies, They wanted to win and they did! Miami may have a Big 1 and a half (Bron and Wade/ Bosh is not a superstar remember!)
5. KARMA!!! – With a situation like this, where the Heat can somehow circumvent the law of averages and sign all 3 of the top free agents. This can’t possibly work for them! I beileve in Karma and I feel that the way that this was done was cowardly! If you can’t beat’em join’em? Whatever happened to wanted to crush the other team’s superstar??? If this starts a trend towards the so-called “superteam” the NBA won’t even be watchable in those franchises most affected by loss in free agency. Its so bad, not even J and Bron are cool anymore!
Stay tuned!!!!
Star vs superstar
Not sure how you define superstar vs star, but putting Ray Allen and Paul Pierce ahead of Wade doesn’t make any sense to me. Also, Wade is younger than each of the Celtics big 3 were when they won the title, so I don’t believe he’s suddenly going to decline enough to be worse than any of them.
Paul Pierce career best PER: 23.6
Ray Allen career best PER: 22.9
Dwyane Wade career average PER: 25.7
Lebron James career average PER: 26.9
Even Bosh last year (for the second time in his career) had a better PER than Pierce or Allen ever did. (Chris Bosh career year PER: 25.0). (I know PER isn’t everything…I’m just using it to make a point.) From a results standpoint, Wade and James each individually carried their teams to at least the finals. None of the Celtics did that — Allen and Pierce were more like Bosh — their teams were bad when they didn’t have good teammates, but were pretty good when they had decent supporting casts (Toronto was a 3-seed in 2007).
i might be wrong but
i believe bosh’s team never went past the first round in the playoffs, and i believe pierce have with his bad team, im not sure about allen though
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pierce had some pretty good teammates at the time
Better than anything Bosh has had (Kenny Anderson and Antoine Walker come to mind).
Ray Allen was part of a big three with Cassell and Glen Robinson, then had Rashard Lewis in Seattle.
The best teammate Bosh has had since turning 21 is…um…TJ Ford probably? Mike James?? Bargnani last year? It ain’t pretty.
I’m not saying Bosh is better, but he’s definitely in the same tier as Allen and Pierce.
He had some decent teammates
Calderon has been a borderline allstar and Hedo has been very effective. That team should have at least made the playoffs.
by forthepeople on Aug 26, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
And lost
Jack is better. And Hedo was a huuge disappointment, which is why they dumped him.
how about we make 8th seed and upset miami
wow, i’d seriously run down the street naked, and piss WIZARDS on the street and pay a serious fine
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 25, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I would buy a plane ticket to Miami just to say just so I could do as you say. But maybe wearing nothing but a JWall jersey.
by returnofswagger on Aug 26, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
True enough.
Serious contention with any of the big boys means Dray, Javale, and JWall all reach their full potential over the next 2-3 seasons, and the rest of our draft picks evolve into a solid supporting cast.
We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Aug 27, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions

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