Only Chance We Land Melo
by jeffco01 on Aug 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT
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The only way we even have a shot at Melo is if Denver waits until the trade deadline to deal him. In order for us to have a chance, Gil has to be playing at an all star level and generating national buzz—- in a positive way this time. Getting an all star back in the trade would ease the blow a little for Denver fans, which ownership is definitely thinking about. Also, McGee needs to be playing well too because he will definitely have to be included in the deal. If he is averaging 10 and 10 and producing highlight reel dunks Denver will certainly be demanding him. An exciting 22 yr old 7’1" center with an expiring contract that includes a team option plus an all star with Gil could give us at least a chance. I just dont know if denver would be willing to take Gils contract even if he is an all star. They probably would want us to take on one of their scrubs like renaldo balkman who makes 1.7 mil for the next three years. They would also want a first rounder to sweeten the deal.
Analyzing that trade:
Wiz Get: Carmelo Anthony $17.2 (ETO 2011-2012 at 18.5 mil)
Renaldo Balkman $1.7 (3 years @ 1.7 mil)
Nuggets get: Gilbert Arenas $17.6 (we know all about his contract)
Javale McGee $1.6 (team option 2011-2012 $2.4 mil)
1st rd pick (probably top 18)
Once again this assumes Denver waits till the trade deadline, Gil is an all star, and Javale is playing well. Its not impossible, but I would say its a long shot.
Then you would have to hope Carmello even wants to stay once the year is up. That is another risk. I imagine we could probably get him resigned, we have a potential superstar in Wall at point, a young borderline all star in the post in Blatche (hopefully), and complementary pieces in Hinrich, Young, Booker, Seraphin, and Thornton. Not to mention we would still have a ton of money left over to sign good free agents in positions of need (Marc Gasol at center, or NeNe to reunite with Melo). i know his wife LaLa wants to be back in TV, well BET’s headquarters are here in DC if I am correct (tell me if im wrong) and I know she has done work at BET before.
But to be honest I’m not 100 percent sure I would even make that trade if I am Grunfeld. Yeah Melo is a top 5 player but if McGee is blossoming and turning into a top 10 center with his athleticism at the age of 22, wall lives up to the hype and Blatche builds on last year at the age of 23 plus Gilberts re-emergence as an all star would the front office want to mess with a good thing going on (sorry for the run on sentence)? I am not completely sure if I would. You know our fan base will be going nuts for the squad even if we’re performing our way into a 6-8 playoff seed.
Obviously there are A LOT of things that need to happen for a deal like this to go down. It’s not impossible but its a huge long shot. I said I would not be sure if I would make that deal but if I had to (once again IF mcgee and arenas are playing great) then I would say YES, but it’s not as big of a slam dunk as I thought.
Do I think this deal will happen? helllll no
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If Gilbert is playing at all-star level, and Javale is also playing extremely well; why would we want to trade for someone like Carmelo in the first place?
Next year is always our year.
...I hate to agree...
but if everyone is doing as well as indicated, wouldn’t that indicate everyone has embraced their role and is living up to their potential and executing within team chemistry? We would have an identity, and then try to change it midseason…not sure if I like the thought…
We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Aug 18, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
Its a really tough call. The only reason I said I would make that trade is because I just have a feeling the FO is going to ship gilbert off eventually regardless. And if it can yield a player like Melo I would pull the trigger. I would definitely try to only offer a 2nd rd pick and really try to hold onto the first rounder. But once again its definitely not a no brainer trade
by jeffco01 on Aug 18, 2010 8:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only chance
is if we can find a 3rd team that really wants Gilbert. I don’t think the Nuggets do. But if we could work Gilbert to say Portland, with Portland sending a package to Denver that gives them relief and some young players it might work.
Gilbert needs a new home. he’s one dumb decision away from an 82-game suspension or one knee tweak away from more rehab. he needs a new home but he’s going to have to prove he can play before anyone will take him.
Melo is not a top 5 player
Remember his defense isn’t very good — he’s kind of one-dimensional. Plus he seems to miss 10-15 games every year.
Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Howard, Durant, Paul are the top 6, and then there’s still 10 guys after that who I’d want to have before Carmelo. So given that and your very optimistic scenario, I wouldn’t make that trade. If Javale plays like a top 10 center next year (at 22/23) then he’s probably one of the top 25 assets in the league.
what world do you live in
where JaVale is a top 10 “center” and suddenly too valuable to move for 2nd team All NBA player?
The world where NBA players don't peak until age 25-27.
We call it Earth. Welcome.
As raw as he is, if he’s a top 10 center in the NBA at age 22, then he’ll be a top 5 center (the toughest position to fill well) for 10 years.
Plus I didn’t say I wouldn’t trade them straight-up. I said I wouldn’t do the proposed trade (which included an all-star Arenas and a first round pick). I would definitely consider a straight up trade in that scenario, were such a thing possible. Not sure if I would do it though (because it would depend on the hypothetical performance of our other centers and small forwards).
by steadyhand on Aug 18, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If
You say “if” he is a top C at 22. Welcome to Earth where he’s not a top 10 center. He wasn’t a top 10 center in the East and may not be in the top 5 in his DIVISION.
As long as you start with that if the rest might as well be vampires versus werewolves.
Not my assertion
That hypothetical is the foundation of the original post.
If you’re saying that it’s unrealistic that Javale become a top 10 center this year (I’d say very unlikely, but possible), then your disbelief should be directed at jeffco01, and this whole conversation is “vampires versus werewolves”.
yeah its not unrealistic
its just unlikely that he’d become a top10 center this year because mostly
i dont think he’d become good until at least after the allstar break and when you say top 10 this year its going to be from beggninng to end, not just the end, mcgee wont be coming out of the gates exploding
by Young Wook Lee on Aug 20, 2010 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Three team trade
Wizards get Carmelo Anthony
Denver gets Vince Carter (and maybe Al thornton)
Orlando gets Gilbert Arenas
If Denver
is willing to essentially trade Carmello for VC, why wouldnt the magic just do that trade straight up with denver instead of getting arenas instead. That makes no sense. You’re basically saying the magic want Gil more than Melo…no chance.
The Magic may want Melo but....
Melo may want the Wizards more than Orlando. Closer to his hometown and a stone’s throw away from New York whrere his wife and friends are from. Orlando gets rid of an aging Carter, and picks up a better superstar in Gil. Then Peitras can fill in SF for them.
Denver doesn’t have much bargaining power because they stand to lose Melo for nothing if he doesn’t sign his extension. So they’d be happy to replace him with Carter.
We add a superstar and stay young.
by LiveByMySword on Aug 18, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I really do not want to give up McGee in a deal like this
Melo isn’t coming here, so any talk is just to kill time here. McGee is the perfect player to pair with John Wall and is only going to get better. Melo would be damn nice, but not for the price of our best center.
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