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Wizards re-sign Josh Howard to one-year contract

More breaking news: according to Yahoo! Sports' Marc Spears, the Wizards have re-signed Josh Howard to a one-year, $4 million contract.

Wiz agree in principle to sign Josh Howard to a 1year deal paying close to $4 mill w/bonuses, his consultant Derek Lafayette tells Y! Sports    

It keeps with the Wizards' strategy of minimizing long-term costs.  For one year, I think Howard's a pretty decent investment.

More later...

UPDATE: According to Michael Lee, the contract terms haven't been finalized yet.

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I'm not a fan of this move

But I don’t hate it either.

I’m honestly not sure I see the point of re-signing him.

But given that it’s a good price and only 1 year I’m not going to get too worked up about it.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto

I don’t see why they would do this but oh well. We’re basically paying for the pleasure of letting him rehab.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 28, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But maybe Howard can be parlayed into a pick down the road? That’s my one hope…

by Jericho6 on Jul 28, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like this deal

because its cheap and only for 1 year and Josh Howard could possibly still be a good player if he recovers well from the knee injury. Good bargain in my opinion.

by lj15 on Jul 28, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Potentially all upside, very little downside.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 28, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he plays like he did during that 4 game stretch

I think it puts in a potential race to snap 8th seed or just miss out which is not a bad thing

by Kend3zy on Jul 29, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this move, we went from a super-mediocre team to a young, diversified roster rooted upon youth and upcomers. This move reminds me of Grant Hill, coming off injury with the oppurtunity to prove himself.

by Unxpekted on Jul 28, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Maturity?

Grant Hill was 5 times the player and 10 times the human being.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 28, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is you are serious

Grant Hill was not 5 times the player Howard is, I don’t know either of them personally to say that one is 10 times the other as a human being.

by Danyon Rome on Jul 28, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grant Hill was so much better than J-Ho in Detroit

As for the human being part? Well one misses games with a hangover, passes out flyers in the locker room to a birthday party during a Playoff series that his team is losing forcing the team to cancel practice, etc…. and I don’t even care about the weed or national antherm. The other is a widely celebrated class act who has collected the largest collection of African-American art in the world and lends it out for free among a thousand charitable endeavors. When Hill is on youtube ranting like a moron let me know.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

and has a

gorgeous r&b singer as a wife…

by Meraj Chowdhury on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy Tiger

Watch the video, its not a rant, its a one-liner. You’re making him sound like some sort of black panther or something. And regarding the hangover, that was just something that Mark Cuban made up.

He’s not a nazi, he’s never been committed of a crime, he’s just spoken his mind at inopportune times. It has nothing to do with his on court ability, which is what we are paying him for.

by Alpha_Snail on Jul 28, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

I think when you are a very young team like the Wiz and you sign a veteran you are paying him to be a professional and a good example on and off the court. While I don’t dislike Howard, I think he’s not the best choice.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with a black panther?

Howard is an immature dude with questionable work ethic who isn’t committed to winning.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 29, 2010 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Partying too hard does affect play on the court

When your missing games and throwin parties night before a mrning practice when your team is getting run out of the playoffs.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 29, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lets not crucify someone because they smoke weed

and he said one stupid thing on camera. Imagine if what we said was recorded. We’d sound dumb too

(this doesnt apply to Ledouche)

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup

Wall
Arenas
Howard
Blatche
McGee

If Howard plays 80% of how he played at the end of last season and McGee plays at 120% of how he played at the end of last season, this team is going to the playoffs.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 28, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I agree 100%. I absolutely love that lineup.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 28, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backup

Hinrich Hudson
Young Martin
Thorton Yi
Booker Seraphin
Armstrong Ndiaye

Hudson martin and ndiaye didnt sign yet and seraphin is still working on a buyout
But all in all i think this looks solid!

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jul 28, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the exception of Hinrich, I think that is possibly the worst bench in the league.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn you MR

why must you speak such truths. Can we at least say that it is a bench full of potential.

by ccrun1800 on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will at least say

that if that is our bench in 3 years it won’t be the worst in the league. With the exception of Hinrich.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's a bit of a stretch

and even then irrelevant since your talking about young guys gunning for roles on a team set up to contend in 2-3 years. Besides Hinrich and the rookies, NONE of those guys are under contract in 2011.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The poor quality of our bench this year should not be irrelevant to you

since you are predicting playoffs. It should be something you are very concerned with. Especially since two of our starters are coming off major knee surgery, one has a broken foot, one is as raw as any player in the league and the final one has never played even half the minutes he’ll be asked to play this year.

by MR on Jul 29, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

But..

that’s the point. This team should go to the playoffs even if multiple of the bench players don’t work out. If the bench costs them a few games or even the playoffs….WHO CARES? We aren’t winning the title this year and the bench will be overhauled for next year.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 29, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yuck

almost no potential there at all.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jul 29, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

backup

Nick Young will not be a backup player too any one this year; truth.

straight talk

by Mae.jude@yahoo.com on Jul 29, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Groan

Just what the Wizards’ youngsters need — a veteran leader who loves smokin’ that weed.

The upside is that the Wizards’ crack medical staff gets another knee to practice on.

by disgrunted on Jul 28, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't understand

How is an expiring contract better than no contract? If we’re 4mil under the cap then we can just trade a bag of chips for a 4mil BOYD player.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Etan, is that you?

I was hoping you’d rhyme the second line of your response too, disgrunted.

by MuggsyBol on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course I'm not Etan!!!

Otherwise, I would have included a Bush or Cheney reference in my poem.

by disgrunted on Jul 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

or bitch-slapped Ivan Carter.

by disgrunted on Jul 28, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Howard was a positive influence last year

He talked about the playoffs and had the young guys believing and playing hard.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

For one week.

Perhaps the Wizards should retire his jersey for that incredible 4 game stretch.

by disgrunted on Jul 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the Wiz's history

I think Howard’s jersey is near the top of the list to be retired.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jul 28, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

who cares if he smokes weed...

its 2010…we all know that if you have the right frame of mind weed doesn’t mean shit…on the other hand if you have issues with depression/anxiety weed will make things 10x worse(personal experience, also see Micheal Beasley.)

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

or all the time

Ricky WIlliams. Let’s just say you don’t see many elite athletes at the top of their game smoking. Probably a reason for that.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jul 29, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

As an avid(and legal) weed smoker I have no problem with people smoking weed

But in basketball unfortunately that can take you off the court. It’s like gaining weight. I have no problem with someone picking up 20 pounds of beer gut over the summer but I care if it’s a basketball player playing for my team. I think it should be a concern but requires no moral outrage.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 29, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great, great move for this year. I wanted to bring Howard back as a stop gap until we can figure out what to do with the 3 spot for the future. That position is going to be extremely important for us with a player like Wall now. Go after Melo!

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 28, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Him, Carter, and Thornton are a solid trio

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, and they can all do something different.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 29, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

he'll be in a contract year

that’s the only part that has me worried. i don’t want him looking for stats out there.

by dcball on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I do.

Let him get his – it’s incentive to rehab quickly and play his ass off.

by RamV on Jul 28, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a Fan...just don't see why we would do this?

I would rather watch trevor booker get a load of minutes at SF and make plenty of mistakes and grow.

I would rather pay less for Cartier Martin and see if he turns into a solid role player.

I would rather give 4 mil to a veteran who is classy and has a good reputation, than has a history of doing drugs.

I would rather Yi get some time here and see if his niche is big SF. or weird tweener sf-pf tandem with Booker and Yi.

by Carlos Returns on Jul 28, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

the other side

Trevor Booker is not a SF. He’s a small PF.

Cartier Martin has a great chance to earn a spot on the team. Once he does that, then we can talk about his minutes. You don’t clear out the position for him.

If you exclude former pot smokers from your NBA team you might as well close up shop.

Yi is 7 foot, 250 and has trouble keeping Blatche in front of him. No way he can stay in front of NBA small forwards. Unless he asks them to sit down.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree with a lot of this

however, I think Booker has some promise as a defensive 3.

But you’re correct that the Cartier Martin hype is way overblown and we should all be past the point where we think there’s a serious problem with an NBA player smoking weed.

No way can Yi play the 3 defensively but Flip likes to throw out the occasional zone. So while I’d admit that it’s unlikely that Yi can play MTM at the 3, I’d really like to see a McGee/Blatche/Yi tall lineup. That could be a very, very difficult lineup to defend.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would that be any more difficult to defend than McGee/Blatche/random shooter?????

Yi is not quick enough to get past SF’s in this league….thats why he is most effective as a strech 4/5

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like this move

I don’t like the signing. I like Josh, but signing him back makes no sense to me. If the Wizards are going to build with youth then they need to be all in with it. This is a year where going all in with playing young guys. Smith and Kirk, just give us combined 5 more wins, a lower pick in the draft and they will take away minutes from Nick Young, Al Thornton, Booker and other young guys. We don’t have a coach who plays young guys unless he has to. This signing will only take minutes away from people who need it.

by Kryp on Jul 28, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much my view too

I better really enjoy the extra few wins we get next year.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jul 28, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

This move reveals a lot about Grunfeld

He is just not fully comfortable going with youth. His big moves this summer were to get Hinrich and sign Howard.

by disgrunted on Jul 28, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It actually shows he sticks with his plan

The plan was to get a young core AND add some experience while getting tougher

The young core Wall, Young, Booker, Thorton, Seraphin, Blatche, McGee, Yi and Ndiaye
The experience Hinrich, Arenas and Howard

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jul 28, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No need to go all-rookie immediately

and tank for ping pong balls. You don’t get rewarded for tanking, you get a chance to be rewarded for tanking. Plus there’s no way Ted would accept that after finally taking control of the team. “I’m the new owner and I don’t care about being competitive” does not win over many fans.

He has been clear about how he expects his team to play. This signing falls right in line with the toughness mantra and the love of playing defense.

on Booker:
“Our staff had identified him as a player that would "fit" within our new culture and new team identity. We want fast, tough and mature players; all good in the room; all that have young legs and will run and run and run. Be physical. Have fun and love the game.”

All that and no flexibility lost in 2011.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

As ted would say

Losing begets losing. I see this team doing better than people expect. The east is stacked at the top…but teams like Charlotte, the Bucks, Cleveland, Atlanta…all playoffs teams that have NOT improved…some have gotten worse, and in Cleveland’s case going to TANK

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Orlando
Miami
Boston
ATL
Charlotte
Milwaukee

We aren’t in that league. So is 7th or 8th in the east a possibility? Sure. is it likely? Not IMO.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 29, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

when he signed Jagr?

he bought the team and tanked? I don’t remember it that way but I’m not a hockey guy so some Caps fan please weigh in.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 29, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

in 2004

He got rid of Jagr, Lang, Nylander, Gonchar and Bondra, and tanked, got the #1 pick and the rest is history.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jul 29, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Wall/Booker/Seraphin/Yi none of whom is over 22 years old.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 28, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Move

Stay Healthy Josh! ( knocks on wood)

Rod Langway magically teaches Mike Green how to clear and check the opposition from his own defensive zone. Lets Go Caps !

by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Jul 28, 2010 7:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This may come as bad news to some

But we are gonna make the playoffs this season. This squad is going to score way too many points to not grab an 8 seed.

The more balls the better... ping-pong balls, that is.

by returnofswagger on Jul 28, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Wiz stay healthy

that looks doable. And you can’t fire a GM after a playoff year right Ernie? Sneaky SOB.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jul 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh

I see what they’re doing here. Clever girls. Clever girls.

by BrendaTHaywood on Jul 28, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask Portland

and their GM how making the playoffs worked out…

by Jericho6 on Jul 28, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's absurd.

The entire offseason plan has centered around getting younger and having tons of expiring contracts over the next two seasons. You can’t really suggest there was short term thinking involved given that reality.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

short term

they want to build their identity as a tough team, a hungry team that defends and plays together. Hinrich and Howard will help set that pace in the short term without requiring any guaranteed salary beyond 1 year.

I don’t think people are allowing for the possibility that “Using the draft” does not directly equate to tanking.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

The key point is

"Using the draft" does not directly equate to tanking.

I think said another way, “rebuilding” does NOT mean “losing”. It’s not an either or.

The plan is to win 40-45 games this season go into 2011 with huge amounts of cap room and expectations of 50+ wins. That’s the Wizards rebuilding plan.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 29, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

HEYYYYY

I actually agree with you once…somewhat. best case scenario the Wizards win 40-43 games…cant see em winning any more than that.

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could u really suggest any long-term goal

To signing Josh Howard to a one year deal. I mean its only one season, no long term progress for this team, as a result of this deal

by returnofswagger on Jul 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The young players get to experience winning (as contributors, not end-of-the-benchers) as opposed to losing. Some of our youngsters have never experienced a winning season as a pro (in which they were more than marginal contributors). Blatche, McGee, Thornton, Young (and I believe Yi and Armstrong) all fall in that category. The others are rookies, and it can only be good for them to experience winning.

The prospects and the other assets we do have (i.e. Gilbert Arenas) become more valuable (in potential trades) because they have put together a winning season.

Losing is contagious. So is winning. Losing begets losing. So does winning. So there has to be consideration given to winning games now if you want to win in the future.

A winning team generates more revenue, more excitement in the fan base, more fan support and good will. More revenue means an owner more willing to spend more money at some point in the future.

by jones-y on Aug 2, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will play the Heat

Oh God we meet Lebron once again…it can be a coming out party for Wall though if he can win 2 games for us…

by ATLredskin on Jul 28, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont care about LeBron anymore

he will never be mentioned with Kobe and Jordan…or any other legends for that matter.

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually we are approaching the point where if we don't make the playoffs it'll be a disappointment.

consider that our near term success largely relies on A) arenas being a top 30 player (need him back to form immediately), B) blatche being a very good player (no more waiting), and C) wall being a future hall of famer (meaning he’ll be very good right away), this means even without howard and hinrich we were looking at the possibility of competing for the playoffs. now we are looking like a team that could really surprise.

arenas is kind of a conundrum. if we could move him now, we could strive for more high draft picks the next year or two, but if we can’t, we pretty much have to hope we’ll be GOOD next year. might as well put a couple more short term pieces in place and see what happens.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 28, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will hinge on Howard's health

but if he’s remotely healthy there’s no way this team isn’t going to the playoffs.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're good on paper, but probably not playoff good

Pretty much every non-playoff team looks as good as us, with a legit stat and two or three great youngsters I. The rotation. I mean, look at Philly and NJ. I don’t think we have the shooting, chemistry (some teams just fit together well and I don’t see that here), rebounding, and efficient go-to scorer to win more than 30 games. If McGee steps up, dray continues to grow, wall’s a lockdown defender who lives at the line, jho’s the player he was in Dallas, and gil’s the player he was when Hughes was here, then we’ll surprise people, but that’s a lot of things that would have to fall into place.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think people are overestimating Wall this year

Just because the average #1 pick adds blah blah blah wins in their first year it doesn’t mean that a 19 year old point guard will do it.

There are obviously a lot of questions on the team this year. Nothing surprises me in sports anymore. But I wouldn’t bet on the playoffs for the Wiz.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Howard

turned down multiple contenders to play for the Wiz. That’s gotta tell you something.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 29, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can't be serious

right? I mean that’s just blind speculation. And a ridiculous speculation when you’re talking about an NBA player who just came off a $40M contract extension who just signed a contract probably smaller than his rookie deal.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 29, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's also coming off

Another injury….did you forget about that?

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think its playing time

The injury means this is a big year for him. he can’t afford to slotted into a 6th man role somewhere. he needs to play. I think thats why he came back. He needs to show what he can do.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 29, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really.

Did he have a better offer?

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jul 29, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what (if any) other offers he had

but to suggest that he re-signed a one year deal with a team for whom he played 4 games out of some sense of loyalty rather than to serve his own interests seems unlikely.

by MR on Jul 29, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a good post

It’s certainly possible for the Wizards to make the playoffs. And Howard raises those odds. But it still seems unlikely. Not every players turns in a best case scenario type season.

Also, just a quick glance of the conference shows six teams that I think easily make the playoffs next year: Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, and Milwaukee (the last one is not as big a name, but played great last year). That’s two spots for everyone else including the Knicks, Bobcats, Indiana, Detroit, Philly, and whatever is left of Cleveland (they did win 61 games last year so even sans James they shouldn’t be terrible). Maybe things break for Washington, maybe they don’t.

by Jericho6 on Jul 28, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah could be

I’d count out Cleveland. I suppose we have as good a chance as any of those other teams except maybe Charlotte.

by MR on Jul 28, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you just

suggest that you don’t like the chemistry of this team before you’ve ever seen them play?

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 29, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ehhhhh

Lets take a look at the playoff teams last year in the east in the bottom half of the bracket…and their players…and their depth.

-Miami
-Milwaukee
-Charlotte
-Bulls

-Miami(5 seed)
                                           Dwayne Wade-Top 3 player in the league.
                                           Q-Rich-underrated but still average
                                           JO-Slowed down a lot…but still a solid center.
                                           Haslem/Beasley-Both decent, but not nothin more than average
                                           Arroyo/Chalmers-no continuity at PG…below average.
                                  Bench Depth
—Their bench sucked. Haslem, and that was it. Dorrell Wright and Joel Anthony were O.K., but calling their bench anything more than below average is a big big strench.

Overall—-One player…we have a better team overall.

Milwaukee-very good…until they lost Bogut…even then they were tough in the playoffs.
But again…their players overachieved. Jennings slowed down. I bet they make it again next year

Charlotte—Lost their point gaurd. Who is going to replace him…DJ Augustin? Who the hell is that guy going to gaurd? He isnt much better than Pooh Jeter. I cant see them making it back into the playoffs this year….You need SOMETHING at the point gaurd position..

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think Philly will be very good at all.

I think Dalembert was a bigger loss than they think. Brand sucks. No outside shooting, still.

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big ifs

IF arenas does well. IF Howard gets healthy. IF blatche can be consistantly good. IF JVM shows good progres,IF Wall can be consistantly great and IF our bench can provide when needed THEN maybe. But even then Im not sure we’ll have a better record than any team in our devision or the improved Nets and Nicks for example. Hell even cavs are not so bad either. But we could be in the mix till the end and than settle for another lottery pick (or two! Make it happen Ernie!)

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jul 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Fairly good move. Now, lets make the playoffs and save Ernie’s job.

by Jeremybozz on Jul 28, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

If Howard plays well, he could be a very good trade piece… Same for Arenas…

Or – not… If they play that well, the Wiz might want to keep both.

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by Rook6980 on Jul 28, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

I didn’t consider the possibility of trading Howard at the deadline if he’s playing well.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jul 28, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him and Arenas would be a great vetran package...

they would be as much of a boost as Butler/Haywood.

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

Plus, it plays well in the locker room. No one wants to play for organizations that don’t take care of their own when injured. Sure he was a free agent and could have signed elsewhere- but the other guys know that he was a viable option at a position that is truly a question mark (Booker and Cartier Martin are solid players, but need the time to learn from a vet…they do not have the raw talent of Wall to be thrown right in). He comes at a good price and provides another veteran with playoff experience to rely on. Pure upside if it works…very little downside if it doesn’t.

by WizardsFan on Jul 28, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent point

This is a good move even if Howard isn’t still here a year from now.

Sign Singleton and Martin, keep Hudson on the “taxi squad”, and the Wizards are set for the season.

by Iwitness on Jul 28, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a fan perspective- no

From a player perspective- yes. Trades are a fact of life for all these guys. Players look around and see how organizations treat players who get injured while wearing their uniform. So in that sense- yes.

by WizardsFan on Jul 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s see Yi, Seraphin, Blatche, McGee, Armstrong, Booker? Is there anymore room for Singleton? I don’t see him being signed here, especially considering Booker has a similar game.

by ThePGPhenomenon on Jul 28, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

 i loved singleton’s contributions but i think were frankly over-staffed at SF and PF right now… he could be a great bench player on a contending team

bring back darvin ham

by jeffbenson on Jul 28, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would assume we would get Singleton cheap and for longer than one year

although he would seem to duplicate the skills of our draft picks. Still, he’s the kind of player I want on my team.

by MR on Jul 29, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Without Singleton

This team doesn’t have a single defensive stopper—or anyone to step into the middle if McGee goes down. If I were building an NBA “dream team”, James Posey and Singleton would be my 13th and 14th players.

by Iwitness on Jul 29, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we are the worst team in the league at the center position.

Based on McGee’s potential and the desire for him to sink or swim I can understand the philosophy, but I question the quality of his backup(s) and the sanity of being so thin in the middle.

I am assuming that Yi will have to play some center this year (probably as the first 5 off the bench) not at SF as some are suggesting.

by MR on Jul 29, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly I feel the same way

At least we will have something to watch for this upcoming season.

by ccrun1800 on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason

a lot of people here seem to think the goal of basketball is to accumulate draft picks.

by Stanicek on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I had to rec' this

Sometimes actually just playing ball can get lost in the shuffle.

by ccrun1800 on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to say, I like the move. It’s cheap, and it gives Howard incentive to show what he can do. He’s proven to be a talented, versatile pro, and there’s nobody else with Howard’s talent whom the Wizards could get for the same price in this free agent market.

There are a lot of “ifs” to this upcoming season. If Howard can recover from his injury and play close to his old level, and if Arenas can come back and play consistently at the same level he played in the few games he appeared in last season, this team has the potential to be scary good. Do I think it will happen? No, I think we’re cursed.

by satchmore on Jul 28, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ernie deserves some praise

The team that is coming together is a very nice mix of youth w/ nice upside, up-and-comers ready to grow into long term roles, and solid vets. With the exception of Arenas, who is still a huge question mark, the team is positioned to have tons of cap flexibility for some time if it chooses.

He managed to get rid of some terrible contracts (which admittedly he got us into- AJ, CB, BH) and the team today just looks like a nice balance of youth/vets. Just a year ago we were talking about it being “now or never” since the window for the big 3 was closing. Today…I feel much more comfortable that there is a foundation to compete for years to come.

by WizardsFan on Jul 28, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Actually CB's contract wasn't bad, he underperformed

And Haywood’s (old) contract was awesome for the production we got.

by jones-y on Aug 2, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Move. A one year deal is fine, anything more and it’s a bad deal.

by Fundefined on Jul 28, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd feel better if we had a team option

There is no long term gain as is unless we flip him at the deadline.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 28, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'd prefer to play for a contender that might resign him

That said, isn’t it hard to trade guys on one year contracts?

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 28, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No

Teams often want that because it gives them cap flex next summer. We would probably take a bad contract in return with picks or something like that.

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jul 29, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad

Hard to complain about a one-year deal.

by Matt K. on Jul 28, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I love ...

this, im a huge fan of J Howard because…..

Plays excellent defense
Can pass the ball
Has great midrange game
Has a great feel for the game ie change of pace and, pump fakes.
Rebounds very well.

The passing part and defense is huge after watching caron and antwan shoot first mentality and zero defense they offered. This next to wall is the best thing that could happen to the wiz this offseason.

by WAAAAALL-E on Jul 28, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I was one of the few who was never a fan of Antawn's game.

At least Caron used to be a good defender…and he rebounded from the SF position.

by tw10 on Jul 29, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah im happy

if he stays healthy him and thornton will be a very decent SF combo

bring back darvin ham

by jeffbenson on Jul 28, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t get the reference re this post – tho I assume because I shouldn’t post off-topic; my apologies but as a Bullets fan I couldn’t help myself!

by Tbonebullets on Jul 28, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was soooo anti-EG when it came to him leading the rebuilding process

but it actually seems like we have somewhat of a plan here. The long term cap space is still there and at worst he has given me a reason to tune in this season. He even has some of you guys talking playoffs ( I am not sold on that yet ) but come on can EG get a little love now.

by ccrun1800 on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

something is wrong with this league

when a guy who didn’t perform well last two years, had public maryjane issues, and blew out his knee can get a 4 mil contract, when a guy like Matt barnes can only get a 2 year, 3.6 mil deal even after he’s been a bargain the majority of his career…
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barnema02.html

barnes must have a really horrible agent representing him

by rzawrecktah on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

He must suck indeed.. And get fired for it

by Dutch Hoopfan on Jul 29, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like this move

I was thinking he would end up signing somewhere for a longer-term deal, so getting him for a 1 year deal is essentially getting him for an audition. I think this is a good move — if it works, we have a former All-Star who could add valuable minutes to a team with a good, balanced lineup. Or, he will crash and burn and Howard will be playing for another team next year, along with probably everyone in that proposed starting lineup besides Wall and McGee.

And don’t you guys like that we at least got ONE player to stick around from the Butler/Haywood/Jamison trades last year? Easily the best one we got, by the way.

I believe in Trevor Booker, but I don’t believe in Blatche (still) and it’s never bad to have big guys who can score. Really.

by mmford10 on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

As I said I like it, the dude did not have to bust his ass last season, he did. He tried to get fans excited and prove he was on the team to compete. I respect that.

Grant Hill is an asshole. His parents are awesome though, my dad knows his mom very well through work in Alexandria.

by Unxpekted on Jul 28, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the move

Wall, Blatche, and McGee will all be starting still so they’ll get their minutes and you just have a better player next to them. Having competition is good for the young guys. Obviously the young guys will get better in time and playing them tons of minutes could help. Teams like the Spurs don’t have tons of minutes to offer to rookies, but being around talented players also won’t hurt. ALSO the Wiz are trying to win games and install a winning mentality so why not add a starting caliber player for cheap and for one season?

by DaGribb on Jul 29, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

extremely well said

also people say this move will cut minutes from Wiz kids’ younger players. I see it as, if the young guys (basically Nick young) play to potential and consistently give effort then he’ll get minutes anyway. Competition brings out the best in players, gifting minutes does no good.

by qthaballa on Jul 29, 2010 4:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

MINUTES

LET EVERY PLAYER START THE SEASON EVEN. LET EVERYBODY EARN MINUTES BY THEIR PLAY NOT JUST NICK. THEN YOU’LL SEE WHO PLAYS. NICK FOR SURE.

straight talk

by Mae.jude@yahoo.com on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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