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So much for that huge small forward market

Remember how we said a couple weeks ago that the Wizards have tons of small forward options in free agency this summer?  Yeah, about that...

Therefore, that leaves only Josh Howard, Rasual Butler, Devin Brown, Marquis Daniels, Antoine Wright and Keith Bogans remaining from that original list.  There are other options of course, such as (deep breath) Rodney Carney, Joe Alexander, Michael Finley (shudder), Devean George (shudder), Joey Graham, Stephen Graham, Trenton Hassell, Jarvis Hayes, Dominic McGuire, Tracy McGrady (shudder), Adam Morrison (shudder), Sasha Pavlovic, Bobby Simmons, Jerry Stackhouse, Ime Udoka, Damien Wilkins, Quinton Ross and, of course, Cartier Martin, but ...

Okay, nevermind, let's just open this up.  Who should the Wizards sign to fill the small forward hole?  Should they sign anyone, considering that there are lots of small forwards on the market next year. 

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Jul 20, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't Dom off the market now too?

Charlotte.

My vote is Cartier Martin.

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by Kyle Weidie on Jul 20, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Do they really need to sign anyone else? They could get by with Thornton and Martin pretty well. Signing someone like Butler or Daniels or Bogans would seem to run counter to what this year is supposed to be about. Those guys are who a team signs to solidify its bench for a playoff run.

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by Jon L on Jul 20, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOM

Are we sure Dom is set with Charlotte. It doesn’t show up on the WAPO Free Agent tracker
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/sports/nbafreeagents2010/index.html
and he is not listed on the roster on the Bobcats website…
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/roster/index.html
whereas Saun Livingston, who signed after Dom does show up….

by pk24 on Jul 20, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard and Martin

I like Martin and wouldn’t mind seeing Howard come back either (if we can get both for really cheap with our available cap space). Martin probably fits best with the youth movement, but seeing some talent this coming season would be nice (hence Howard).

by whippb on Jul 20, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we ought to roll with Thornton and Martin

Nick Young and Trevor Booker can both slide to the 3 when needed.

Of the free agents listed, I would give Joe Alexander a one year deal.

I’ve only really considered it lately and haven’t really though about it enough to form much of an opinion but, it’s very, very conceivable that if John Wall and Andray Blatche do what they are capable of doing this year, it could be a very attractive destination for a wing player like Carmelo, not too mention the geographic advantage we have. It’s really early but starting to seem a little more likely.

And after checking out the 2011 link, I would love to be in a position next year to add Shane Battier. But at his age, that would have to be a position ready to win. Here’s to wishful thinking!

by Matt Lilly on Jul 20, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be about as attractive as Rose and Noah were to Lebron/Wade. Unfortunately there is a potential second juggernaut forming in NY next year, with rumors of Melo and CPaul joining forces with Amare… Don’t see how Melo passes that up for the Wiz.

by jones-y on Jul 21, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

WOW! Look at the 2011 Small Foward class!!! - must read in tandem with this

most informative article I have seen in a while. Why invest too much this year when the class is so good next year? Al thorton, martin and Booker. Give booker loads of minutes. Why not? it is a rebuilding year.

I just hope we land some more higher potential draft picks for next year.

by Carlos Returns on Jul 20, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

i say

scottie pippen. isn’t he still trying to get minutes overseas?

seriously—wait until next year. give the minutes to booker and see if that’s his niche on the team. or, eg should be consistent and sign alexander—athletic guy who still needs to prove he was worthy of a draft pick. seems eg likes those guys.

by Todd L on Jul 20, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope

The Bulls just hired him as an “ambassador.”

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by Jon L on Jul 20, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Penny Hardaway then?

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 21, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jho!

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by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Jul 20, 2010 7:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Youth or Leader

I want a young guy or a leader. Someone who still has a chance at developing or someone who can provide some great leadership to the team

by bloodwatermission on Jul 20, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

sometimes the best move is no move

how many of these signings makes you say, “we should have tried to get so and so for that price” … a lot of dumb money is being thrown around and it doesnt seem to fit into the team’s strategy to give our 4 yr contracts … if i had to choose, i’d try to sign howard to a 2 yr deal, he seemed to like it here and showed some flashes of his old self before getting hurt

by wizfan2247 on Jul 20, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

In addition to his injury

it appears that what is causing a delay with anyone signing Howard is his desire for a 5 year contract. I stumbled across his personal website today and during an interview he mentions that this is his desire.

by CJ Hempfield on Jul 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know when Howard will be ready to play?

Either way, as the days tick buy and cap space is used up, a one-year deal seems more and more possible. Could even live with a second year player option if it’s cheap.

I’d give it to Al Thornton and Cartier Martin for the time being.

One possibility – could the Wizards go with a three guard set for 8-10 minutes some nights? Might be fun to run around with Wall/Hinrich/Gilbert occasionally depending on what opponents are on the floor.

by mfish on Jul 20, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

TASER???

Id rather have a rotating robot that consistently shouts “Lebrons a coward” and spews out free John Wall t-shirts to the crowd.

by Unxpekted on Jul 20, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome...

We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jul 21, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

martin seems pretty logical at this point

and – is it reasonable to expect nick young to play any SF? or is that just not going to work?

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by little stevie colter on Jul 20, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He works as a floor spacer and he's a solid enough man to man defender

I wouldn’t want him checking a scorer, but I think he works ok there if he’s on a Shane Battier or Dorrell Wright-type who’s not going to be scoring much.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 21, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would sign Cartier, obviously for cheap

Thornton, Martin, Booker, Nick Young, Yi. We’ll get by, then wait for next year’s crop for a small forward. Assuming Gil is here for a while, we are pretty set at the 1,2, 4, and 5, assuming they develop the way we want them too. I see Ted doing something big next off season, whether it’s moving up in the lottery to get a top 5/10 pick, or signing a marquee player, relatively young and talented.

If Ernie wants to keep with his track record this off season, signing former lottery picks in hopes that one will break out, I would take a look at Alexander for a one year deal, similar to the Hilton Armstrong mindset. One of the Grahams wouldn’t be too bad either for some young depth, I can’t remember which one is better, but one of them is ok from what I’ve seen.

by ToughHibachi on Jul 20, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i like joey

very good hustle player, can shoot it, can jump out the gym

by jsuh0 on Jul 20, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thornton, Martin and...

And old vet willing to take the league minimum. Someone who could almost act as a mentor for Thornton and Martin. It could almost be like the original plan with Fab last year – emergency backup in case all hell breaks lose or injury with the first two. Oh crap, that would likely be a Devean George… never-mind.

by CJ Hempfield on Jul 20, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Martin ftw

I really liked him in summer league play.

by Ateneo on Jul 20, 2010 9:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

T-mac

… to a ten day contract so I can buy his jersey/shirt and then wait until next year.

by BrendaTHaywood on Jul 20, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

didn't Rook mention

Patrick Ewing, Jr. as a possibility? Did he get summer league burn, or was that the orlando league still to happen? doesn’t he have like a 67 inch vertical or something? plus, the eg new york connection might help sway his decision making. agree with bloodwatermission: youth or leader. ewing, jr. fits the youth.

by Todd L on Jul 20, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

He played

both for Orlando and New York. Did okay. He’s a good defender, not a great shooter, and he’s had some injury problems over the last few years.

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by Jon L on Jul 21, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

To those that keep saying "Melo 2011"

Uncle Ted has stated pretty much as clearly as he can that big money free agent signings are not his MO.

Why is everyone still pushing the angle that we’re looking for a big FA splash next year. Did you not read the memo or do you just not believe Ted?

by MR on Jul 20, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think that if we make a big splash, it will be a la the Celtics.

Where we trade a bunch of young prospects for a large corps of stars. Doubt it ever happens (hopefully not, as those things seldom pan out, see The Redskins), but I think that’s more likely than signing Melo.

We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jul 21, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily ...

I think doing so before the team has a solid core is not his MO.

But you’re kind of right …. is that “core” going to be solid by next summer? Highly questionable.

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by Kyle Weidie on Jul 21, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

4. Commit to building around the draft. Invest in scouting, development, and a system. Articulate that system and stay with it so that all players feel comfortable— know the language— know what is expected of them— read the Oriole Way*. It worked and it is a great tutorial. Draft players that fit the system, not the best player. Draft the best player for the system. Don’t deviate or get seduced by agents, media demands, or by just stats or hype. Envision how this player will slide into your system.

8. Add veterans to the team via shorter term deals as free agents. Signing long-term, expensive deals for vets is very risky. We try to add vets to the mix for two year or three year deals. They fill in around our young core. They are very important for leadership, but they must complement the young core (NOT try to overtake them or be paid more than them). Identify and protect the core. Add veterans to complement them, not visa versa.

other important points from his plan:

“Having dry powder is very important to make needed moves.”

“be consistent with your plan”

“Show the players you are very loyal to them as compared to free agents who achieved highly for another team”

and of course

“Never listen to bloggers, media, so called experts—to thine own self be true. "

by MR on Jul 21, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

More of a question than a statement

From No. 8:

We try to add vets to the mix for two year or three year deals. They fill in around our young core. They are very important for leadership, but they must complement the young core (NOT try to overtake them or be paid more than them). Identify and protect the core. Add veterans to complement them, not visa versa

Personally, I would think that would be a vote against Jho. He needs the ball. If we want to complement Wall, I would personally think we would want someone else.

by HIBACHI GOLD on Jul 21, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily, since we have no “core” member at SF. I think a JHo 2-3 year cheap deal wouldn’t contradict the plan. I think a long term Melo deal would.

by MR on Jul 21, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ted did mention wanting to be The Lakers when he was interviewed at SL

Which seemed inconsistent with previous statements. Maybe he meant as in big teams with size I can’t remember the whole convo. I think KH’s 2 year contract iis a good indication of when lenses envisions making big moves. A timetable I’m cool with considering Wall needs 2 years to fully develop IMO.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 21, 2010 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

IPhone fail

Leonsis not lenses.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 21, 2010 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly.

Let’s find out if they can really hack it and keep the best player. We’re not making any title runs this year.

We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jul 21, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one is interested in Howard?

He’d be an awfully good fit when healthy and he’s available at far under his market value. If he comes cheap enough, I’d be excited to bring him back. We’re also a team that doesn’t need him to be ready at the start of the season.

Cartier Martin is a nice player and had a nice summer league, but the Wiz fan man-love for him is over the top. Players like him are a dime a dozen.

by JonathanJoseph on Jul 21, 2010 3:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I like Cartier Martin as a 11th man... but I think that Nick is going to get every

chance to be the SF on this team, this year… Thornton will get some burn too but his limitations are not going to change, unless Wall really gets him to play with discipline if he wants to see the ball.

Booker and Yi will play the 3 in select spots, and I think Booker also has a shot at being the starter, if he finds his way offensively and Nick’s and particularly Thornton’s defensive liabilities prove too costly. Booker simply has to be a more productive starter at the wing than Dom was two years ago.

I still think we would not be ill-served by signing Howard, simply because he has said he wants to play here and he knows he has someting to prove (which, if he does, will make him a prime candidate for the Wizards to move to a contender in February).

The rest of the older guys on the list, uh-uh. Let’s go with what we got.

by khrabb on Jul 21, 2010 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't agree on Howard

We need to sign only young guys and let ‘em grow up together. We need to lose lots of games as well, to get a shot at as high a pick as possible. Veterans help you win games; the young’uns will grow more, IMO, from playing time than experiencing “veteran leadership.” Howard isn’t part of the future, and therefore I can’t see him on this team.

by YellaFella on Jul 21, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We disagree on 'need to lose lots of games'

I am of the opinion that losing begets losing. That players who playing on losing teams for too long learn losing ways. That, in building a team with an eye towards the future, some on-court success is a necessary ingredient to building the confidence of the young players you expect to help you win down the road.

For the most part, talent wins in this league, no doubt about that. But there is more to winning than physical skill. A large part of it is mental. Its in the attitude, the desire, the confidence, the fortitude, and having the experience of winning. IMO losing weakens that.

There is also something to be said for young players getting real live game time experience, I understand that. But I really think that barely missing or barely squeaking into the playoffs would be much better in the long run than the #7-8 pick in next year’s draft.

by jones-y on Jul 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think bringing back Howard would be fine

as long as it’s not for too much money, obviously, but I’m sure the Wizards wouldn’t want to overpay anyway considering they don’t have a whole lot of money left to work with at the moment. Cartier Martin is obviously another option to consider, and that seems like a decent option.

by Matt K. on Jul 21, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Sign Singleton and Howard, Ernie

If you think this team might make a stab at the playoffs, Singleton and Martin if you’re aiming for the lottery. Why Singleton? Because the team needs an enforcer/defensive presence under the boards, plus someone to teach all these raw big men the basics (unless that’s Wes Jr’s job now). A major part of AB’s turnaround was due to the guy. Hudson can be kept in the D-League until the moment when (notice I don’t say “if”) one of our guards goes down with an injury.

If I’d been you, Ernie, I’d have re-signed Singleton and Livingston late last season; then traded Livingston away for a draft pick after acquiring Wall if he’d remained dissatisfied. Then again, if I’d been you, I’d have signed Gee even earlier.

by Iwitness on Jul 21, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Dray could play some 3

He can guard a lot of small forwards and he seems to excel more when he’s got a height advantage. He’s not ideal there, but he’d be fine for five minutes a night there if we play him next to Booker and McGee/Ndiaye/Seraphin. I actually can’t think of any reason not to play him there, come to think of it. He likes being on the perimeter and the only guys who would be able to drive around him would be Lebron and Melo, his length might actually be beneficial against someone like Pierce or Luol Deng.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 21, 2010 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes... good point...

Especially so if Seraphin is the rock at 4 that he has positioned himself as being. Also if that is a reasonable scenario, resigning Singleton begins to make real sense.

by khrabb on Jul 21, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dray is NOT a 3...

not sure why people keep thinking this idea. Kevin Garnett never played the 3…

He is too tall to play the 3. Plus you dont want him developing tendencies of a perimeter player…

by tw10 on Jul 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Thornton, sign Martin, and resign Howard (but keep him on IR till he can play well)

At the trade deadline, if we look like we’re a lock for the playoffs and if for some reason Denver is on the outside looking in, we make this trade:

Thornton, Howard, Yi, and the rest of our cap room on someone to trade for Melo.

We enter the playoffs with a legit contending lineup:

Wall – Hinrich – (Randle)
Arenas – Young – (Hudson)
Melo – Martin
Blatche – Seraphin
McGee – Armstrong – Ndyia

by LiveByMySword on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

pipe dream

and Randle isn’t making the roster imo. I like Hudson though!

by DaGribb on Jul 21, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the addition of Wall does make you wonder about possibilities. He seems like the kind of guy people want to play with, Carmelo included. (Which is not to be taken as an endorsement of trading for Melo.)

by satchmore on Jul 21, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sign Cartier Martin. Maybe sign J Howard if the price is right, though it probably won’t be.

That cap space/flexibility is best used elsewhere or in the future. Between Thornton, Martin, Young and Booker (in no particular order), they can man that position. Thornton and Young are in contract years, and I wouldn’t mind the Wizards giving them ample opportunity to prove they should stick around. And what do we have in Booker? If the Wizards go out and sign a starting SF, we won’t get adequate answers to some of the questions that need to be answered.

by Johnnie Futbol on Jul 21, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

just started watching some of the high school SFs of 2011

Harrison Barnes and Perry Jones look very good/athletic. As good as Josh Howard is and he could help us next season there is no reason the Wiz should commit to anyone who isn’t in the long term plans.
C- JaVale McGee
PF- Andray Blatche
SF-
SG-
PG- John Wall

PF/C- Kevin Seraphin
PF- Trevor Booker

Thats the only possible pieces of the puzzle. Arenas and Hinrich will keep us competitive, but unless you plan on seeing a player here in 4 years when we’re competing for a title then don’t sign him to anything over 1 year.

by DaGribb on Jul 21, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Totally agree!

There should be a couple of top notch SFs coming out in next year’s draft that should be in our range (if the Wiz win 30-35 games like i’m envisioning). Might not be able to get Barnes since he looks like a top 3 pick, but Jones should definitely be in our range and is a 6’10"-11" SF with insane talent.

Might not be a bad idea to sign people to fill the roster for this year, then see what’s available to us in next year’s draft.

by TheRealBigMike on Jul 21, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of really good SF's in the 2011 Draft...

I think the Wizards can afford to just sign a cheap 1-year minimum player or two – and try to get by with that…

With Al Thornton as the “starter” – ideally, you’d need two backups… one rotation player and a development guy for the end of the bench. So sign Cartier Martin, who has shown he can play in the NBA and another guy like Joe Alexander or Patrick Ewing Jr. Give both of them one year deals for the minimum…

Of course, if the team thinks Nick Young can make the move to SF, he might be a nice piece there… It does seem like he’s put on some muscle over the Summer – so it’s possible the team asked him to bulk up to play SF. He played there some last year.

After watching Booker play in Vegas, I’m even more intrigued to see if he can play the 3. He certainly has the offensive game for it…. showing a nice stroke from outside… and also the ability to slash to the basket. I didn’t see him post up much in Vegas, but I’m sure if he were being guarded by a SF, he’d do well in the post. Not to mention the fact that having your SF setting CRUSHING screens would be awesome; and I imagine he would be a really good pick-and-roll , or pick-and-pop guy.

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by Rook6980 on Jul 21, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

1-year contract for Martin, same for Alexander or maybe Morrison (I’d prefer Alexander). If they blossom, great. If they don’t, no big deal. I don’t want to fill this roster spot with a 30-year-old.

And absolutely, given his athleticism, if Booker can consistently knock down that outside shot I’d love to see him compete for the starting role at SF eventually. A front line of Booker, Blatche, and McGee could be pretty tough a couple of years down the line.

by sierradave on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Long-term, the Wizards would be best-served if Booker could play the 3. So why not give him every opportunity to play there this year? Thornton, Booker, and either Cartier Martin or some other one year rental. It’s a year for development, not the playoffs.

I would prefer that Nick Young stay at SG — it’s his natural position — but if he can get a few minutes here and there at SF, that’s fine.

by disgrunted on Jul 21, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stick with what we got...

unless we can sign JHo to a cheap 1 yr deal.

Sign Cartier Martin who will come cheap and on a 1 year contract. He will be fine getting something like 10 mins a game, I like his work ethic and he seems like a good locker room guy.

If Nick Young puts on a couple more pounds on top of the 8 pounds he’s already added I would love to see him get 10-12 mins a game at the 3 as well a 10-12 mins a game at the 2. He will be motivated for his contract year and I think it will be interesting to experiment with him at the 3, at 6’7" with his athleticism he might find success there. If he can contribute at the 2 and 3 and finally find his niche it would give him a great chance to stick with this team. If he still looks lost, time to cut him loose.

I also don’t mind Booker getting some minutes at the 3.

We are not winning anything this year, why sign a guy to something like a 3 year 11 mil deal. I would prefer to just add lester hudson and cartier martin to fill out the roster and stay at around $8 mil under the cap to have some flexibility when trades go down around the all star break. Maybe pick up another first rounder.

Next year is loaded with Small Forwards in the draft (from the highlights I’ve seen of this Perry Jones kid I want him really bad) and there are quality free agents as well. I think Small Forward should be our next position of focus. We appear to have our franchise Point Guard in J Wall. Hopefully Blatche and McGee prove they are also pieces to build around. If they do perform then it looks like our 1, 4, and 5 positions are set for a long time. I do not include Arenas at the 2 because I just don’t think he will be around next year with that contract on a rebuilding team. Ideally we would pick up ‘Melo but I think he will take the extension in Denver or go to the knicks. On top of that Ted has repeated he is not into signing big FA’s. However, I could see him making an exception for someone like ’Melo if we have a legitimate shot at him.

Guards: Wall, Arenas, Hinrich, Young, Hudson
Forwards: Thornton, Blatche, Booker, Seraphin, Yi, Martin
Center: McGee, Armstrong, N’Daiye

With that roster I see a 25- 30 win team back in the top 5 of the draft being able to land one of the top swingmen such as Harrison Barnes or Perry Jones. (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/perry-jones) Check out Perry Jones highlights, I want him bad. If we were to land a wing player in the top 5 like that and blatche and mcgee perform well this year you would have a young team to grow together just like the Thunder did.

by jeffco01 on Jul 21, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

agree with you on almost everything

but i don’t think we’ll get another top 5 draft pick next year unless we trade for one. we won 26 games last year and that included that 15 game losing streak and dumping all of our players. #1picks usually improve the team’s record by about 9 or 10 games the following year. With Wall looking good, Arenas coming back to form, and a steadily improving Blatche and McGee, I would say our Wiz are looking closer to a 35-49 win season. Just my 2 cents.

by ToughHibachi on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, I might be getting carried away

I also got carried away last year saying we could win 50 (I’m wasn’t alone)

And I meant to say 35-40 wins, not 49….

35-47 record seems pretty realistic to me, but there I go again making predictions, I can’t stop.

by ToughHibachi on Jul 21, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we do not keep Josh Howard

I say T-Mac is our best option. Would be a great player to get Wall going and I think the guy can still ball.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Not a good fit, at all

This is not a video game Malor. McGrady can’t really play anymore and is not the best role model to have around for Wall. He needs to sign on with a contender for the min (or part of the mid level) and prove that he can accept a role as instant offense off the bench. All he would do is deter our rebuilding process by taking touches and shots from our young guys.

by DT711 on Jul 21, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense. We are looking for a starter though, aren’t we? Out of that list above, I feel like Howard and McGrady are the only ones who could start. I may be wrong though, don’t really know too much about the entire situation.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 21, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this situation

I think its better to go with cheap youth like Martin, let Thornton (or whoever looks best) start for a year, and then add a SF next year from the draft or FA when the talent pool at the position will be much deeper. This year is about development and seeing what we have, and will most likely result in getting another top 10 pick to build with next year.

by DT711 on Jul 21, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the old $64 question....

I think Wizards management has made the decision that the team is not really in the market for a starting 3 right this minute… (Thus the pass on Childress in particular).

The goal seems to be player development, as well as coming up with some answers to questions with real money implications:

1. Is Thornton a keeper? He has a one year window to show it, otherwise he becomes a free agent.

2. Is Booker a viable 3? If so, he has a shot at starting. If not, he is slotted as an energy guy lower in the rotation.

3. Can NY provide valuable minutes at the 3? He, too, might have a shot at starting there, or at least making a case as the first or second 3 and fourth 2 off the bench, good for 15-18 mpg. It is contract decision time on Nick too.

4. Can Blatche slide to the 3, allowing the team to give serious minutes to Seraphin as a classic banger at the 4 in a tall athletic front court with AB and JVM. Blatche is on the cusp of a big payday. If he can work across the frontcourt and keep up anything even close to his second half numbers last year, he ups his value.

5. Is there roster space for Cartier Martin, who has shown flashes of both defensive and offensive skill at the 3? This is a minimum contract guy, low risk for moderate potential gain.

The only guy who fits in as an additional investment in this type of context, IMO, is Josh Howard. If he signs cheap, and is ready to play 15-20 games into the season, he is insurance against a Thornton early season bust.

by khrabb on Jul 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

That I am looking forward to the first few times that the Wiz have JaVale, Andray and Yi on the floor at the same time. That would be a l-o-n-g frontline. However, they would have to prove that they can play together and even then I don’t think they would log heavy minutes together.

by CJ Hempfield on Jul 21, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, playing a zone, it could work

Dray and Yi can space the floor a bit. Heck, even Javale can shoot to some extent.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can people stop with the "Dray at 3" idea?

its not going to work

And who really wants to see Vale hoistin’ up jumpers?

I sure as hell dont.

by tw10 on Jul 23, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Renaldo Balkman?

With Harrington, Denver has no need for him now (if they did at all). He’s got no offensive game and can kind of replicate what Booker does, but he seems like a solid backup 3. I love his energy and rebounding, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Denver is looking to shed excess salary.

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by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 21, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Alexander...

I am surprised he has not gotten a workout from us and Morrison did. As bad as it sounds I am willing to be open minded to sign either one to a cheap one year contract and then dump their butts if they start the sucking noises during the year.

Cartier Martin is my first choice and looks like he plays the 2 as well.

by Aquamaneastfish on Jul 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yes ive been saying joe alexander for weeks

i still think he could develop into a nasty scoring option off the bench/ sixth man type… hes still young… dont know about morrison tho

bring back darvin ham

by jeffbenson on Jul 22, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe would fit the

sign-recent-high-lottery-busts-that-still-have-potential plan.

by tw10 on Jul 23, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cartier Martin and Al Thornton

No signing will help us tremendously so we might as well throw Al Thornton out there and see whether he’ll ever develop a true offensive game then make a move for a SF in the 2011 draft. Making a move for a strong rookie SF is imperative in 2011, we should try to trade up.

by NY1 on Jul 21, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Alexander

He fits the mold of what Wizards have been doing this off season. Young vet with high athletic skill-set still looking for his breakout season. In college he showed decent range on his shot and was a highlight film dunk artist. With Wall to him up, he may find himself with Wizards.

by LoneWiz54 on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah i think thats the biggest question

are we looking for a Starter or rotation guy? Either way my preference goes like this: 1. Josh howard, the bargain version. 2. Cartier Martin. 3. Rodney Carney, even though he looks like he has that Nick Young talented but inconsistent gene.

by qthaballa on Jul 21, 2010 10:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

yeah i think thats the biggest question

are we looking for a Starter or rotation guy? Either way my preference goes like this: 1. Josh howard, the bargain version. 2. Cartier Martin. 3. Rodney Carney, even though he looks like he has that Nick Young talented but inconsistent gene.

by qthaballa on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Xavier Henry can play small forward.

by Tbonebullets on Jul 22, 2010 2:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I would give up next years 1st rounder for Xavier Henry

There might only be 4 or 5 better players in next year’s draft class and I don’t know if we are going to be able to get another top 5 pick. We already know how good Henry is and how he would compliment Wall on the wing. I would do it if at all possible.

by ToughHibachi on Jul 22, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

JOE ALEXANDER

or cartier martin or josh howard if he’s cheap enough

bring back darvin ham

by jeffbenson on Jul 22, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

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