Trade Proposal - New Orleans
by Rook6980 on Jun 26, 2010 4:04 PM EDT
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I am very disappointed that the Wizards didn't get a defensive minded wing player that can shoot in the draft. Quincy Pondexter was the one I thought could fit that need.
The Hornets made a trade with Oklahoma City to save some Luxury Tax dollars. They traded Mo Pete and the #11 pick for the 21st and 26th picks. They drafted Pondexter with the 26th pick.
Unfortunately for the Hornets, they are still over the projected Luxury Tax line. The Luxury Tax, to be formally established on July 8th, is projected to be $68 Million.
See more below the jump.
Here is New Orleans current roster situation:
Chris Paul $14,940,153
Peja Stojakovic $14,256,000
Emeka Okafor $11,795,000
David West $8,287,500
James Posey $6,478,600
Darius Songaila $4,818,000
Julian Wright $2,858,057
Darren Collison $1,361,040
Aaron Gray $1,250,621 (assuming they make him a qualifying offer)
Marcus Thornton $762,195
10 players $73,007,166
Craig Brackins (21) $1,089,000
Q. Pondexter (26) $894,400
Minimum Rookie $473,604
13 players $69,264,170
2010 Lux Tax line $68,000,000
Leaves the Hornets paying $1,264,170 in Luxury Tax AND they forfeit the Luxury Tax payment (usually around $5-6 Million). The League minimum roster is 13 players, so they can't just trade away a player for a future pick because ANY player they trade away, that roster spot must be filled.
Here's my trade proposal:
Hamady N'diaye (473,604) + Quinton Ross ($1,146,337) total = $1,619,941
for
Darius Songaila ($4,818,000) + Quincy Pondexter ($894,400) = $5,712,400
You could substitute Cartier Martin (in a sign-and-trade) or another D-League player for N'Diaye
This gets the Hornets under the Luxury tax without sacrificing any core players (Paul, West) or young developing players (Collison, Thornton). Wizards get another good young player that plays stiffling defense, and rent Songaila (a good guy) for one year at a decent price, with no long term salary implications (other than the Rookie salary for Pondexter).
What do you guys think?
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Like it, fills a position of need without sacrificing much cap space
and wouldn’t mind having Songaila back at all now that we are in rebuilding mode.
Great Idea
Pondexter would be great. I always assumed that Grunfeld wanted him in the first place. He has a lot of Caron Butler in his game.
Great trade. Makes too much sense
which is why it won’t happen.
Man it would be great to have Darius Songaila back. His position defense down-low was so underappreciated.
by John Park Williams on Jun 27, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
I'd rather try to get a future first rounder from them
Pondexter’s ok, but he’s not really a shooter. I think we would be better off trying to get Stojakovic, a first, and maybe the right to swap second rounders in a couple years. I imagine that regardless of how much Paul plays next year, NO’s pick will be between 10 and 20.
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No money left for Stojakovic's salary
He makes $14 Mil this year…
Wiz had $19 Mil – but took on Hinrich @ $9 Mil – PLUS 4 Draft picks – so they only have about $7 Million left.
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Hmmm...
I don’t think they’re going to trade anyone until they figure out what’s happening with Chris Paul…
We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Jun 27, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
I like it
I’d be curious what the folks on their community blog would say to it though…
is it just me or....
do fans like us come up with better trade ideas and moves better than the actual team management themselves? i’ve read countless trade ideas and proposals on this site this past year that all made a lot of sense for the wizards and, most of the time, the other team. i really don’t understand why none of it never happens.
it seems like we’re, at least me, always disappointed with the trades the wizards make…. maybe i’m expecting too much… i dont know…
They don't need to do that...
Your $73M figure for 10 players doesn’t makes sense…not sure what you’re doing there.
However, your $1,264,170 over number makes sense. Still…
1. Why would they make Aaron Gray a qualifying offer? He’s horrible. That’s $777,017 savings right there swapping him for a rookie.
2. Then they only need to save $487,153 and they’ll be under the line…they don’t need to give up Poindexter to accomplish that.
The Wiz should offer this, but I don’t see New Orleans accepting.
The $73 Million was a mistaken cut-and-paste from here…
The actual number is of course $66,816,066 is for the 10 players they currently have under contract (assuming they make the qualifying offer to Gray)…
Of course, if they don’t pick up the option on Gray (a good assumption), they are at $65.5 Million for 9 players…. add their two draft picks, and two minimum rookie contracts; and they’re still over the tax by half a million…..
Worse, they will only have 13 players, the Minimum required by the League – with NO flexibility to add a player to actually help their team win; and they would be in terrible shape if injuries struck…
The trade proposed above not only adds flexibility, but gets the Hornets more than $3 million under the Luxury tax and allows them to shop for veteran minimum or Bi-Annual Exception ($1.99 Million) type of players.
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Good point
The trade proposed above not only adds flexibility, but gets the Hornets more than $3 million under the Luxury tax and allows them to shop for veteran minimum or Bi-Annual Exception ($1.99 Million) type of players.
That makes sense, but if I’m the Hornets I only care about that if I’m trying to win. I can still make those moves now and then sneak under the bar at the trade deadline if we’re not contending. There’s no reason I would give up a first round pick at this juncture if I’m in their shoes.
I can still make those moves now and then sneak under the bar at the trade deadline if we’re not contending.
They’ll only be able to get under the Tax line at the Trade Deadline, IF someone under the cap is willing to trade with them ….
The Wizards are fast running out of cap room, after the reported trade for Yi
New York, NJ, Chicago and the rest of the LeBron chasers will spend too much on guys like Joe Johnson, Boozer and Stoudemire trying to appease their fans – and will blow their cap space.
Traditional Cap space teams like Memphis and OKC will be more interested in making the Playoffs, (ie: getting a valuable veteran player to help with a playoff push) – so NO would have to pony up much more value than Songaila and Pondexter…
I think it’s a huge risk for NO to assume there will be a trade partner at the Trade Deadline that will be willing to take on their Tax overage….
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I despise Darius Songaila
because you could just put a ficus tree in your frontcourt and it would be equally athletic.
He looks like a dead man out there.
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