Eric Prisbell talks to BF about his John Wall story
Eric Prisbell's Father's Day story on John Wall's relationship with his dad while he was in prison during his formative years was as much of an award-winning piece of journalism as I've ever read. It was a story that took nearly a month of hard work, and that showed in the final result. It was a truly remarkable profile, one that hit me personally for reasons I'll probably discuss at some point this summer. These were all things I wanted to talk about with Eric.
In addition to all that, though, there was one particularly controversial part of the story where Prisbell informed Wall for the first time that his father had previously murdered another man. I've had so many conversations over the past couple days with people about that part of the story, so I can only imagine how many Prisbell himself has had. It's among the most difficult ethical dilemmas a reporter will ever have to face, and I'm honestly not sure how I could have handled it myself. So, in addition to hearing Prisbell's thoughts on the story itself, I wanted to hear how he decided to go ahead and inform Wall about his father's record.
I exchanged some e-mails with Prisbell earlier today, and here's the result of the conversation, printed with permission of course. Thanks again to Eric for being so kind to respond.
Mike Prada: First off, how did this whole story originate, and how long have you and Michael [Lee] been working on getting it published?
Eric Prisbell: I finished an ice cream on the evening of June 6, and I have been working on the story for most of my waking moments ever since. I can't remember when it was assigned to me. But I recall Michael Lee telling me that he spent some time with John in LA and that John almost casually mentioned that his dad was in jail. I knew what his dad meant to him and knew that relationship would be a critical part of the story. I didn't know it would be the whole story. I also didn't know the criminal record at the time or if I could even find it out or if I needed to find it out.
MP: Before this story, it seemed like Wall himself had been painted as someone who was very down to earth for a player who has received as much hype as he's gotten. After now talking to him extensively for this story, how accurate do you think that portrayal is? What are some things you learned about him and his personality that you maybe did not realize before writing the story?
EP: John is a good guy. Polite, humble, mature. Those are the words that come to mind. You see him on TV and you see this glitzy persona, this swagger. But he is so much more than that. His recruitment was under scrutiny, but I think that was overblown. He has overcome a lot and deserves the success he has. I am as impressed with him as a person as I am with him as a player. Just has a lot of perspective for a 19-year-old.
MP: How were you able to get him to open up to you about the effect his father had on his life and all the obstacles he's had to overcome?
EP: Well, we talked. With these stories, I just like to have a good, honest conversation with the individual about their feelings and how they worked through issues in their own mind. I shared some details about my rocky childhood with John because I wanted him to know, while all situations are different, I know what it is like to have a father who is absent and who has done bad things in the past. John was candid and blunt with me. It was a back-and-forth discussion, never confrontational. I was not there to judge. I was there to understand.
MP: You mentioned in the article that it all just "clicked" for Wall before the 2007 Reebok tournament. Why do you think that was the moment where he really shed all the attitude problems and became who he is today?
EP: I asked this a lot, and to a lot of people. Got different answers. But my take, and from what John told me, was that it was a gradual process, but that the Mount Zion game his sophomore year at Word of God really changed things. He talked back to the coach, and he wound up seeing his minutes cut the next two games. That is when he said he learned.
MP: I have to ask you the question you've probably heard a lot since Sunday: your decision to tell Wall about his father's full criminal record. How specifically did this come up in your conversation with him? Was it something where he said he wanted to know? How did you try to phrase that part of the conversation so that you could try to be as fair to him and to your job as a journalist as possible?
EP: I wrestled with this issue for some time before I met with John. The first issue was IF I needed to include it and ask John about it. i didn't know what he knew. If John's dad didn't matter to him, I think it's a non-issue. But this is his driving force, his motivation. The memories of visiting his dad in prison are very strong in John's mind. Because of that, I felt that the record needed to be included at least in brief. Then the question became HOW to handle it with John. I did not want to mention specifics, but I wanted to see what he knew. About 12 minutes into the conversation, I asked him about what he knew and he mentioned something about an altercation. I then told him that the first sentence was because of a robbery. He did not seem surprised, and nodded a little. There was no tension. He was relaxed. We were fine. I then told him that he was also in prison before John was born and that one was for murder. He seemed surprised, looked away for a second. But what stuck out to me, the important thing, was that this did not change his view of his dad, which speaks to the unconditional love. That's one of the main points of the story. After that, we talked about whether he will ever be curious to learn more, etc., and then the conversation turned to what effect the death had on John and the fights, etc.
MP: As a follow-up, how did you internally decide to go ahead actually disclose that information to him? Why did you ultimately decide to go forward and tell him? What factors did you weigh in your head?
EP: To be honest, i wanted to write the most comprehensive story ever written on John. I wanted to be fair, thorough and detailed. When you do a 3,500-word profile of someone, and you write about their prime motivation and inspiration, you need to disclose why that person was in jail for most of the final 30 years of their life. I don't think that is up for debate. If one wants to debate how I handled it, fine. But I do feel comfortable with how I handled it. I did not ambush anyone or blindside anyone. I didn't mention court records, the victim's name, any of that. I wanted to be sensitive and delicate and respectful. I was not comfortable with the situation I was in, but I feel I made the right decision.
MP: What type of feedback have you received, both about the article as a whole and the specific decision to tell John about his father's criminal record?
EP: I've gotten probably about 150 emails and texts from readers and writers. Most are one extreme or the other. I understand that reasonable people can disagree on the decision to bring the murder up with John. I knew that would be an issue.
MP: How surprised were you that he still revers his father even though he was in prison? I ask because it seems a lot of basketball players take the opposite approach with their dads if their dad was in prison. They often resent their father and have very close relationships with their mom. Why do you think Wall took a different approach?
EP: Well, it is unique because of what you said. But while talking with John, I was not surprised because it is very clear that he is so grateful for the chance he had to spend even the weekends with his dad. His dad drew pictures with him, gave him advice, talked to him about lots of things. He will always cherish that. So I am not too surprised, but it is still unique.
MP: Of all the other people you talked to for this story, who struck you as the most compelling?
EP: Good question. John Wall was the most compelling person I talked to because of how mature he is, how much perspective he has at 19. But THE most compelling person to me was John Carroll Wall. Make what you want of him as a man -- and I am not here to judge -- but indications were that he was a good father. And given his criminal record between 1969 and 1999, I found that to be very interesting.
MP: Finally, this is a bit of a journalist-y kind of question, but why did you and your editors decide to put the anecdote about his father's criminal history being revealed at the end of the article? Also, looking back, how do you feel about the way that whole thing was presented in the article itself?
EP: I originally had it maybe in the second section or so in my first draft. But they wanted to drop it, and I think that was the wise move. Let's not make too much of it. But we can't ignore the fact that it is a powerful section and the reader will need some background, some context before getting to it. I think it was handled in the right way. And detailing the dialogue that took place was the right move, as well, I believe.
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I can’t believe he just decided to tell John his father was a murderer without any fair warning or careful thought. That’s disgraceful. It was in no way up to Prisbell whether or not John should know; it was up to John’s mother or Wall himself. Imagine yourself in John’s position; having a random reporter tell you something so deeply personal. That just makes me angry
by zl on Jun 22, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The story itself was brilliant....
The chemistry that evolves between an interviewer and an interviewee when the story is going to be an extended profile is inevitably quite complex. The relationship between interviewee and subject can become very personal, even though the two people did not know each other previously and the transaction between them is taking place for “business reasons”.
Obviously, something took place between Wall and Prisbell that made the revelation of Wall’s father’s full criminal record seem appropriate to Prisbell at the time.
I look at it this way: John Wall is rapidly becoming a national (and potentially international) celebrity and the likelihood is that the facts of his father’s life were certain to become public eventually in any case. It is probably far better that these facts were made know to him now than later, and in a way that is potentiially more dramatic and less sympathetic.
What’s done is done. Both men seem to have handled the situation well.
For one so young, John Wall seems very mature and well grounded. The Wizards and the sports fans of Washington are fortunate.
It is probably far better that these facts were made know to him now than later, and in a way that is potentiially more dramatic and less sympathetic.
So true. Honestly I’m more surprised that he didn’t know from his mother sooner, considering that fact. Maybe she hadn’t considered that he was going to find out eventually anyway. But I can agree that Mr. Prisbell handled it better than someone like Peter Vecsey would have. We can all be grateful for that.
That's right, I said the Wizards would win 49 games in 09-10. Free advice is sometimes worth what you pay.
Crap
blockquote fail. The second paragraph is mine.
That's right, I said the Wizards would win 49 games in 09-10. Free advice is sometimes worth what you pay.
He had no business telling Wall about his dad
I was genuinely pissed off when I read that. Sure, it was going to come out at some point, but that doesn’t give Prisbell license to be that guy. That’s like saying “Somebody’s bound to punch you in the face one of these days, so it might as well be me”. Plus, I don’t know they guy, but it’s obvious that he did it for the story, period. He even says as much. I’m no journalist and I don’t know really what they’re taught as far as ethics goes but, to me, it’s out of line.
by imperialme on Jun 22, 2010 7:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was suprised...
When I read that Prisbell offered the information about the murder to Wall. If I was doing the interview, I think I would have asked Wall if he wanted to know why his dad was in jail first. If he said no, I wouldn’t have told him.
I would, however, have revealed his dad’s history in the story. It’s important to the theme established.
Wall does seem like a great kid.
With quotes like these...
Pulley never told Wall why his father was in jail — “I don’t discuss that,” she says
“She would never tell me, she would not want to tell me or my sisters.”
He has no right to tell Wall about that part of his family history. If his mom didn’t want him to know then that is a matter between the family. Yes, it may have come out eventually but you need to respect the wishes of the woman who had to work multiple jobs just to raise her kids. It was a great article otherwise, but that part of the article wasn’t even necessary. I’m very disappointed in him.
by SkinsWizStangs on Jun 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Completely Inapprropriate
The most telling thing to me was when he said he had wanted to make this the most comprehensive story on Wall ever. Sounds like it was all about him and making his mark. Just because it was going to come out, like imperialme said, doesnt justify his doing it. This was done purely for the writers and papers benefit. Not the readers (doesnt change anything about my view of who John Wall is) and certainly not for Walls benefit. Definately not the right person or venue to share that information.
With that being said, it was the truth, and in that regard if it changes Walls view of his dad(which he said it didnt but some things have to sink in first) then Wall should be a lot more mad at his dad for doing those things than some out for self reporter for telling him.
Agreed
Though I’ve heard Prisbell is a stand up guy, this was not a stand up move. Not really his place to insert himself into Wall’s life like that. Perhaps ask his mother or John himself if he wants to hear this information before proceeding. Mike Wise did this with Arenas (asking him), and Arenas said he did not want to know at that time, but maybe later.
Kind of In the Middle On This
Even though I think that was a horrible way for John Wall to find out, I can understand Prisbell point of view. If he had wrote that article without mentioning what his father was in prison for then we would all be sitting here talking about what crappy journalism this is. Instead he brought closure to a topic that was at least running through my mind for most of the story. I also believe that his mother should have told him given the circumstances that he is in. Information is so easy to get out there, and now that John Wall is becoming more and more exposed someone was bound to tell him and just like khrabb said. She had to realize that she can no longer protect her children from the things that she could before. Their lives have changed already, even before she realized it!
by ThePGPhenomenon on Jun 22, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
By the way did anybody think about the similarities between hard upbringings that Gilbert and John? This may sound crazy but this could be something that bonds them together on and off the court.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Jun 22, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
Wall seems way more grown up at 19 than Gil is...
in his late 20s… Mothers matter.

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