John Wall workout impressions: He loves basketball
Is that a cliche? Probably. But as I left the Verizon Center, that's the one thing that struck me.
I haven't talked to a ton of players in my year in the locker room, but of the ones I have, one thing struck me: many of the league's best players get tired by cliche questions and love it when you ask them about something basketball-related. Some, like Kobe Bryant, take it to an extreme. Some, like Gilbert Arenas, will talk no matter what, but will go into even more detail when you ask him about his basketball mindset. But chances are, the great players, or at least the ones who handle the media correctly, tend to be boring with cliche questions and interesting when you ask them about basketball.
John Wall talked for 18 minutes today, and he demonstrated this quality to a T. He had lots of cliche answers to cliche questions, such as how he'll play with Gilbert Arenas, what it's like to be in this position with all the attention ("it's a dream come true) and such. He also found a way to make people laugh without being overly gregarious. But when he truly came alive was when he received basketball-related questions. There, he showed how he's humble, analytical and always looking to improve. He talked about his strengths in the most general terms, and went into great depth with his weaknesses. It was very encouraging to hear.
I'll provide some of those answers below the jump, but that is what struck me most. Wall, as opposed to, say, Arenas, is completely subdued and realistic about what he needs to do to improve. He remains low key, but also manages to sound like a complete student of the game. He knows he's not a finished product, and we shouldn't expect him to be one, but of all people, it just seemed like he is the one guy we can trust to make the necessary improvements.
More below the jump:
The workout itself
To be perfectly honest, this wasn't John Wall's best workout ever. It couldn't have been. He missed a lot of jump shots, and later admitted his back had "tightened up." He seemed frustrated too about it, and it almost seemed like Sam Cassell had to encourage him. Of course, I only saw one drill, and he later followed it up with a thunderous windmill jam in the final drill, but he probably has played better before.
When we all walked in, Wall was running through a pick and roll drill where he came off a screen at halfcourt and dribbled into a jump shot. This is where he struggled the most, missing the majority of his shots. Once he finished, he took free throws, then went into a drill where Flip Saunders threw the ball away and he had to retrieve it, take two dribbles, and pull up. Eventually, he went to the side of the court, where he practices running and dunking really quickly. This is where the left-handed windmill happened.
"I think I could have shot the ball a little better, but my back started tightening up," he said. "But I thought I did pretty well."
The workout itself was short: barely 30 minutes.
On leadership and Gilbert Arenas
Before we get to the on-court stuff - we should talk a bit about how Wall feels he can fit into this mix. Unfortunately, Wall was unwilling to say that the Wizards were taking him, but he did provide some clues about how he plans on joining this mix.
First of all, Arenas. Wall said that he and Arenas have been messaging each other on BlackBerry Messenger, sharing jokes and generally checking in on each other's progress. That's pretty much it. When I asked him about how he thinks he can play with Arenas on the court, he didn't say all that much.
"He's a talented player and a great scorer. If I got picked here, the coach would find a way to put us on the court together and let it work from there, but I think I can play with anybody"
He did, however, talk a bit about the locker-room dynamic he expects to walk in. He was careful to note that the Wizards hadn't drafted him, but he did say that, regardless of where he was drafted, he'd probably play with a young team. On that note, he said this:
We'll basically be on the same page and can talk a certain way, but sometimes, you got to put your foot down, put them in their place. And they got to do the same thing to me, make sure I'm in the right place, make sure I'm getting better, make sure I'm in the gym and working out.
The fact that he mentioned putting his foot down first, rather than them putting the foot down on him, can be read a number of different ways. I'll leave the between-the-lines reading to y'all.
Earlier, Wall also said this:
If I'm going to have the ball in my hands, they have to have to trust me, and my coaching staff is going to have to trust me. At the same time, I'm going to have to listen to certain things they tell me, because they've been in this situation before and played on an NBA level, and it's going to be my first season, so I still have a lot of stuff to learn.
Wall on Wall's game
Like I said at the top, Wall was very descriptive when he talked about his weaknesses. I wrote about all those quotes here.
Wall on his new shoes
It's tough to tell whether these are actually Wall's new Reebok shoes. On the one hand, Wall very clearly stated in the affirmative when a reporter asked whether those were his "signature" line. On the other hand, he chuckled before he answered, meaning he could have been joking, and the shoes themselves looked remarkably similar to the generic Reebok Zigs.
But regardless, Wall did talk a bit about why he signed with Reebok.
"I felt like I could be the face of the basketball side there, and that was the key to me. I want to do what LeBron and Kobe and KG did. They were with Adidas and they were with Nike, and they made commercials and did advertisements. I feel like Reebok needed a guy like that, and I was the right guy for their opportunity."
Sure, $25 million helps, but if you believe him, it did sound like he wanted to be his own guy.
Wall, Rod Strickland and staying grounded
Wall talked a lot about Rod Strickland, his assistant coach at Kentucky, today. We all know Rod Strickland as the hot-dogging underachiever that crashed and burned his way out of town, but Wall knows Strickland as his mentor at Kentucky. (Before you laugh: Strickland mentored Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans too). Wall said he didn't talk to Strickland much specifically about Strickland's own career, but did say Strickland gave some advice to him about how to handle himself on the next level.
"He told me it's going to be tough. 'At the beginning, your first year, your going to have to learn a lot.' I know that. I'm not going to come in here and be the best player in the world [right away] and not have ups and downs, so I'm just preparing myself for that."
Wall said that, wherever he goes, he doesn't expect to necessarily make the playoffs in his first year or two. It's almost as if he pulled that one from the Ted Leonsis playbook.
"I know it's not going to come in a year or two where we get to the playoffs," he said.
Odds and ends
- Wall said he was surprised to hear that Evan Turner was not working out with the Wizards. You and me both bro.
- Wall said this was the first time he ever met Ted Leonsis. Leonsis and Ernie Grunfeld whisked Wall away somewhere after the workout, so I'm guessing they had a fairly long talk.
- Andray Blatche was in attendance today, along with pretty much everyone from the Wizards' organization. I definitely saw Tommy Sheppard, as well as many of Leonsis' partners.
- Wall admitted that "it'll be tough" for him to find a new number, because Elvin Hayes' is retired.
- Wall talked a lot about his UK tenure, but I tuned most of it out (sorry, it's on my recorder). He did say that Eric Bledsoe was supposed to go do the John Wall Dance at Midnight Madness, but was "scared of heights" and chickened out. Therefore, Wall went and did it and made history. The "Eric Bledose Dance" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Oh, and also, he plans on bringing the dance to the NBA.
- Wall was asked about Barack Obama, and said that he challenged the President to a game of HORSE, but Obama hasn't come through on it. Something about being the president has stopped him.
- Wall said he watched Stephen Strasburg's debut, and also said he tried to check out Georgetown last night, but nothing was going on.
- Question of the day: someone asked him what suit he'd wear on draft night. Wall didn't answer.
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Its good to hear him talk about Gil as a scorer
I could see a similar season to what Rose had with Gordon in his
rookie year and if we can step up defensively I could see us surprising
a few and maybe slipping into the 8 spot.
From the snippets that are coming out Wall seems to be
leading Turner in terms of character which I did not expect.
Agree with this completely
I think Gil gets wrongfully characterized as Ben Gordon but with the chance to play point guard, but he really does excel when he’s just out there to score as many points as possible. I worry about how he’ll get those points with Wall, though. Like, it’s harder to draw seven or eight free throw attempts if you’re not dribbling very much.
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by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
NO FAIR !!!!!!!!
Golden State is going back to their old logo and uniform. Please Leonsis do the same PLEASEEEEEEEEE
"um, my back tighted up." WHAT?!?!?!
What?! Uh, Mike, love your reporting but if I saw that workout and then heard those excuses I don’t think I would be saying “leader” or “trust”. I would be saying “sissy”. Well, to be fair, even saying sissy is subjective. What’s not subjective are the facts, and the facts are he worked out, he didn’t shoot well, and he made an excuse that his poor shooting was because of his back. So, work on his shooting he may, but what he really needs to work on is his back I guess. Which means he really doesn’t understand his problem at all Mike. Its not his mechanics, its a bad back. I guess we should wait to see what the Wizards medical staff think. Ummmmmm……
by mogoman on Jun 18, 2010 12:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
In other words, it was a token workout
If it actually mattered, I’m sure they would have kept going.
token workout fo sho.
I was trying to make two points earlier:
1. This is the first I’ve heard of John Wall having back problems. It’s a bit worrisome since we are afterall, the Wizards. So I wanted to write a comment that expressed that since no one else had. If we’re going to analyze his shoe contract, maybe we should analyze his back problems – are they chronic? One time? Related to an old injury, etc? Until my comment there was no reaction to his apparent back issue, so yes I am reacting to it. Whether it is an overreaction or not, perhaps it is, but I felt the site response up to that point was an underreaction in my opinion.
2. My second point was that he was talking leadership while at the same time making excuses for his poor shooting – which isn’t what I think of leaders doing – especially when one of his weaknesses is shooting. Additionally, if his bad back is the source of his shooting ills, and again I don’t know if his bad back is a chronic thing or a one time thing, it would seem he needs to work on fixing his back, perhaps in addition to his stroke, no? Sorry if this is overreacting. Again, I love your reporting and think you do an incredible job w the site.
by mogoman on Jun 18, 2010 6:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Point #2 is definitely an overreaction
Where did he make an excuse? He said he didn’t shoot the ball like he wanted, then made a really quick reference to his back? I don’t see much of an excuse.
Mr Wall obviously has you convinced, Mike!
… and i have come to trust your judgment…
By the way, that was a heck of a game last night… ugly but very intense… very similar to the Bullets win in Seattle lo these many years ago.
Seven days to the future, Wizzies!
And
Let’s be fair to John Wall as well…. there have been multiple articles on DraftExpress, CSN, and elsewhere that say he’s been working very hard on his jump shot – especially coming off screens…
In the one video I saw, he hit like 10 jumpers in a row from each elbow, coming off screens…
So if John Wall said he “didn’t shoot the ball like he wanted”, it’s because he knows he can shoot better than he showed the Wizards in the workout.
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by the way
here’s the video link…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grLvmEsV8sc&feature=player_embedded
It certainly looks like he shot the ball better in this video than in the Wizards workout. Of course, the video could have been edited, but that’s not Jonathan Givony’s style – he generally leaves the misses in (as well as the makes)…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
And
that was 2 weeks ago… he’s been working out like that every day
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
it worries me how mechanical his shot is
watching that video, his delivery is not natural at all. Its like he just read an instructional book on how to shoot and now hes going out to practice it.
The catch and shoot was unimpressive. Looked like a high school player.
The one-dribble pull-up was a lot better. He went quicker, seemed more natural. The less he thinks the better. He is a basketball player; he will figure out how to put the ball in the hoop.
My favotire point guards to watch over the past decade were Jason Williams at Duke, Mike Bibby on the Kings, Baron Davis (before he was fat), Steve Nash, and Brandon Jennings (so far). Even though they don’t shoot great field goal percentages, they are such constant threats to shoot from the perimeter that it allows them to get into the paint, penetrate and dish.
My limited exposure to JWall at KY and by watching these youtube clips of him, he appears to be a lot more similar to Rajon Rondo or LBJ than any of the aforementioned players. Great players, but not shooters.
If Wall’s shot looks like that now, it will never be a thing of beauty. Not to say he can’t be great, great player, but no great shooter has ever had a jump shot look like that at age 20.
by John Park Williams on Jun 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions

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