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"Flip wasn't the problem at all," Jamison said in a telephone interview on Tuesday afternoon. "It was individuals that had too many agendas that weren't the same. You had one guy wanting nothing but to win a championship, one guy worried about a contract situation and one guy that wanted to be the man. The hardest thing for me was that I kept saying, if we win, it'll all take care of itself. But we had too many agendas and not the same agenda as a team, and that's the reason why it didn't turn out the way it was supposed to turn out."

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I'm confused.

Is Caron Butler the last two guys?

Or is he or Brendan Haywood the middle guy and Arenas is the last guy? (I doubt Arenas is the last guy).

Is Jamison the “one” guy who wanted nothing but to win a championship?

Do we blame Grunfeld less for keeping the Big Three together (because, let’s be honest here, doing so was the edict of Abe Pollin) …. and do we now blame these three players more?

What’s clear is that there isn’t a Kevin Garnett-type leader amongst any of them.

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by Kyle Weidie on May 5, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I do think he's referring to Gil with the last one

Because let’s face it: while Gil didn’t have any public “takeover part III” quotes or public campaigns, you know that he was very concerned about re-establishing himself in this league. I actually think he kept completely quiet at first because he knew he’d say something ridiculous otherwise.

And yes, I think he’s the one guy who wanted to win at all costs.

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by Mike Prada on May 5, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

Was Gil really around long enough last season to be labeled as such? Also, wasn’t it Gil’s role to be the man?

by Stanicek on May 5, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think that more than others, Jamison's motives were pointed in the right direction

But the question is whether he really was focused only a winning a championship — i.e., was he willing to make all and any sacrifices necessary to win a championship? I recall one game where he and the other starters were pulled after a couple of minutes in the second half and Jamison kicked signage near the court and sulked. And was it this year he rejected the thought of coming off the bench, or am I misremembering?

My point is simply that it is easy and natural to think that your motives and actions are pure and perfect, and to criticize the motives and actions of others.

by disgrunted on May 5, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

Jamison certainly wasn’t perfect, though I blame him way, way less than Arenas and Butler for this year’s debacle. Just saying he clearly was referring to himself when he said one guy wanted to win a championship.

(Also, it was 2006 that I think he scoffed at coming off the bench).

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by Mike Prada on May 5, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt like that either.

Although it is probably true, I dont like how he threw Arenas and Caron under the bus.(Assuming that he was referring to Caron as the second guy and Arenas as the third…I mean, what other two guys could he really be talking about? They had a 3-man core and he refers to three different guys.) To think that you are the only guy concerned with winning…that just sounds somewhat arrogant to me.

by tw10 on May 5, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I guess that's Jamison's characterization of The Big Three

one guy wanting nothing but to win a championship: Jamison

one guy worried about a contract situation: Butler

one guy that wanted to be the man: Arenas

I vastly prefer Caron’s assessment of the season’s failure.

by Johnnie Futbol on May 5, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

that said after reading Jones’s article, Jamison had a lot of nice things to say.

by Johnnie Futbol on May 5, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, so now we have heard from Butler and Jamison in the last week

Who’s next? I want to hear what Haywood has to say the most, but I want to hear what everyone has to say.

Mike, who do you have a good enough relationship with that you can get a comment?

by disgrunted on May 5, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny, I was thinking of McGuire, too. But I would like to hear from Haywood the most — he is smart and outspoken. He is more likely than anyone to really say what is on his mind. McGuire might, too.

by disgrunted on May 5, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus Haywood was more of an integral part of the team

He might have better insight into the “Big 3”, etc. but from a slightly removed perspective. I can’t wait to hear from him on this topic.

by Mikenstein on May 5, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont put to much thought in to this guys. Regardless of that big three that situation is over.

We should be confident, out of the big three we kept our best player. For that I am thankful.

by Unxpekted on May 5, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

It wasn't by choice.

Do you really think that management wouldn’t trade Gil if they had the opportunity?

It’s not that we decided to keep Gil, it’s that we couldn’t trade him.

by tw10 on May 5, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think you understood what I said. “I said out of the big three we kept our best player”

I didnt say we couldnt trade him.

Arenas is an amazing player and a valuable key to the Bullets.

by Unxpekted on May 5, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe, we’ve barely seen him play this season. Before his suspension he had some great assist games and some great scoring games but never together. He may never be the dynamic player of 2007 again but we’ll see next season. We were 10-20 even with Arenas, that’s not a good sign.

by Fundefined on May 5, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Good crap, how have you still not found it?

That's right, I said the Wizards would win 49 games in 09-10. Free advice is sometimes worth what you pay.

by bronco6778 on May 7, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jamison

Jamison’s leadership is overstated. He was never someone who demanded you follow him. He led quietly by example. He is a perfect compliment to a vocal leader, but we didn’t have one of those. Instead leadership flowed through management to the coach and then… to Gilbert as the highest-paid superstar on the team.

by Jheiser3 on May 6, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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