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Michael Lee fills in more details from Caron Butler's season of discontent

About a week ago, I wrote this long post detailing Caron Butler's fall from grace, based on stuff I had witnessed firsthand with media credentials.  But even though a lot of the information in there was firsthand, I realize that a lot of stuff remained unclear.  Why did he play so uninspired?  What were the factors?  It was more a piece to get the ball rolling on discussing what I believed was a key reason for the Wizards' terrible season.

Thankfully, today we have more answers.  Michael Lee comes through with this much-needed feature on Butler, and in it, there are several very revealing points.  The major one to take away?  Butler was resentful of not receiving a contract extension before the season began.

And he appeared to sulk after failing to receive a contract extension before the season began.

With Butler's contract set to expire after the 2010-11 season, Grunfeld didn't want to tie up more money in a group that lost three first-round series against the Cavaliers, especially after committing about $161 million in contracts to Arenas and Jamison in the summer or 2008.

Not giving Butler an extension was a perfectly defensible move by Ernie Grunfeld.  Butler was going to be 30 years old by the end of his deal.  There was absolutely no reason to reward him with an extension two years before his contract ended.  

Nevertheless, Butler felt dissed, and as we discussed last week, lingering resentment over having to carry the team while Gilbert Arenas was injured and, well, space-cadet'y took it's toll.  This quote in particular is very revealing. 

"I wasn't upset about it, but I worked my tail off the last couple of years when Gilbert was injured," Butler said of the extension. "Obviously, he's the cornerstone and the franchise guy for that organization, you know, without a doubt. He'll go down as one of the best players to ever play the game if he comes back [healthy]. But when he was out, you've got to give credit where credit was due. I was at the helm, helping lead that ballclub to the playoffs and things of that nature. I obviously got injured and wasn't able to make the push at the butt end of the seasons. But that was me and Antawn, being the leaders and controlling the atmosphere and everything around there. You should be compensated and rewarded. I understand it's a business, you put it aside and get prepared for the season but it was tough. You expect certain things."    

In other words, "I wasn't upset about it, but I was upset about it."

Also, Butler wasn't a fan of Flip Saunders' offense and reportedly complained about not getting enough shots.  He claimed that Saunders was trying to "force players to be certain things" instead of fitting his system around the personnel.  Finally, he claims that he and Arenas get along, despite the resentment that clearly resulted from what happened this season.

Seriously, read the whole thing and give a metaphorical (or literal) gold star to Michael Lee.  He did great here.

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I'm not sure Butler comes off as more sympathetic

even given the chance to tell his side of things. He’s right in that it was kind of a terrible situation in retrospect, but to say that he didn’t think a new head coach should implement a new system (that’s effectively what he said, anyway) is kind of bizarre.

Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.

by Jon L on May 4, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

This all made him worse IMO.

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I went from loving caron to hating him

I never really watched full games of wizards that much but one game i saw earlier season was all about caron taking contested shots, I mean he makes some but come on, seriously? I’m glad we traded him away

by Young Wook Lee on May 4, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

He used to be my favorite Wizard

Oh well ….

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by Kyle Weidie on May 4, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s not anymore, because he’s a Maverick now?

Okay, only kidding.

My favorite Wizard of all-time is definitely Zydrunas Ilgauskas.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 4, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thinking of which

Where can I find a Wiz jersey of Ilgauskas’ name on the back? Or better yet, an Ilgauskas BULLETS jersey! Sick nasty.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 4, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nah man

It’s all about the Gooden Bullets jersey.

Since we lost Stevenson and Gooden skipped out on us, this team has faced an overwhelming weird-facial-hair deficit. Hopefully Leonsis will address this once he takes over the reins.

by sierradave on May 4, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

sad

watching butler this year was really sad. he was so selfish much of the time, forcing shots, trying to drive thru the entire opposing team and other silliness. i thought he had just read too many of his own press clippings, that making the all-star team had gone to his head. from this article is seems more that he was just being a dick.

i’m not one to blame saunders for last year’s performance since much of it was out of his hands. but he should have nailed butler’s butt to the bench until he saw the light. that much was obvious.

still, let’s not forget that butler was a pretty solid citizen in the community before he lost his mind. for that he deserves a lot of credit.

by stevie on May 4, 2010 4:55 AM EDT reply actions  

The money quote for me was:
“You had a certain way we was used to playing for a couple of years. Then you had your franchise guy, a guy you needed to be everything he needed to be, coming back, trying to prove a point, show that he was back in a major way. It was just like everybody was on different pages. We was trying to pull it together and frustration and adversity reveals character and you had people speaking out of turn. Basically, it was chaos over there. Now, looking back at it. That was a crazy situation. That was a crazy environment to come to play basketball and keep your head and keep your morale up. Being a guy that’s an emotional force on the court and off the court, that was real frustrating and once [Abe] Pollin passed away, it was open season. I was like, all right, anything can happen.”

Where to begin in analyzing this? First, I guess it is not surprising that someone as close to Eddie Jordan as Butler was/is (their families vacation together) would rebel against a change from Jordan’s system. The fact that everyone was on different pages suggests what we have all known for years, that there was a leadership void, a damning indictment of the captains, Flip, and the organization. The organization needs to address this in the upcoming draft and free agency period. I’m not sure what, “people speaking out of turn” means, but I think it means people weren’t being good enough followers. Also, I’m not sure what, “Being a guy that’s an emotional force,” means, but it suggests that when one of your most vocal leaders wants to lead in a different direction than what the coach intends, crazyiness results. That’s my main takeaway from this article — that a big part of the problem this season is that one of the team’s most vocal leaders wasn’t on the right page. So, perhaps one of Flip’s biggest mistakes this season was not recognizing the problem early on, and either not making Caron a captain, or getting him on the right page. Flip probably came into the situation worrying about getting Gilbert on the right page, only to realize too late that Butler was the volatile one.

by disgrunted on May 4, 2010 6:41 AM EDT reply actions  

that’s way you cant just give a player 111 million if he is not your legitimate team leader …

feelings like this finds its way into even the toughest players

by eltacoman on May 4, 2010 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Mr Areanas be the Leader General of this team …. Gain the respect and loyalty our teammates soldiers

by eltacoman on May 4, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caron's point is very lucid

Caron probably could’ve handled the situation better, but gererally his perspective on the season seems dead-on. You have a veteran team used to doing things a certain way, you bring in a new coach who wants things done differently, you add a superstar/cornerstone of the franchise coming back from a two-year long injury, and what do you get? Chaos.

I suspect Flip’s system is just wrong for Caron’s style of play. It’s also not unusual for a coach to tailor the system some based on the strengths and weaknesses of the team’s players. I’m not saying Flip should’ve done that, but perhaps the Wizards 09-10 season was destined for disaster, where a player like Caron gets the short end of the stick. That can only be frustrating for him.

The season ended up a big dissappointment. I wouldn’t let Caron’s statements here have any bearing on how we remember his time here in Washington, including the very classy way he said goodbye to the city through his letter to the Washington Post.

by Johnnie Futbol on May 4, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

To add on to this

The sense I got from these guys in training camp was that it all was going to come together more easily than it should have. Flip didn’t play his regulars in the final preseason games. Butler talked about Arenas adjusting to him. Flip turned everything over to Gil right away. Etc. etc. For all of these guys to expect that was, in hindsight, remarkably naive.

In other words, when adversity struck, everyone pulled apart because they weren’t prepared to pull together.

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

well said

Honestly I feel a little naive for having such high expectations.

Oh well… I’m eternally optimistic anyways.

by Johnnie Futbol on May 4, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Constant let-down

It’s not necessarily a better way of being, at least as wizards fan.

by Johnnie Futbol on May 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ultimately that's one of Flip's responsibilities

Saunders is quite an interesting coach. Lots of contradictory sides to the guy. He’s definitely ‘lost’ veteran voices on multiple teams now, and his suitability to preside over a youth movement rebuild is so very much in question given his tendency to perform Larry Brown-esque media backstabbings and make gratuitous cutting remarks. (‘As an aside in this press conference, I think I’ll mention that Nick Young is never going to be that good.’)

This thing with Caron’s extension: You didn’t get your extension two years early, and that results in a morale-sapping work slowdown sort of a thing. Surely the coach should be finding a way to make it clear to the player that he really isn’t doing himself any favors, just in terms of his next contract…. What, is he going to mope around for two whole seasons? Does he think that’s going to result in a nice big free agent contract? Or what? You can make these remarks about someone like Young, and you can’t get ahead of stuff like that?

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by feral on May 4, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought that it was noteworthy that Nick Young spent all summer reshaping his game to fit Flip’s system, learning to come off screens a la Rip Hamilton, but Butler did none of that. Gilbert spent a lot of time talking to Flip about what he demanded of his point guards, but Butler thought that Flip should have adapted his system to Butler.

You keep tracing all of the little default lines in this mess, and find yourself coming back to Butler wanting to do things his way.

by disgrunted on May 4, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dray and Jamison too

Dray worked a ton on his jumper in part because Flip’s system demands it from the power forward, and I never saw Jamison take off his I-Touch once during training camp when he wasn’t playing.

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

The big quote you printed in your piece about Butler’s thoughts about not having his contract extended makes me wonder whether Butler wasn’t also ticked off about the following 2009/10 salaries:
Gil — $16 million
Antawn — $11.6 million
Butler — $9.8 million

by disgrunted on May 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's kind of my sense too

I didn’t feel like I knew enough to throw something like that in there last week, but looking at where it all started to fall off for Caron, combined with this news about him being upset at his deal not being extended, you have to think it played a role.

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

not to belabor this

But maybe one way all of this comes together is the following:
Butler knows he put up good numbers in the ‘07/’08 and ‘08/’09 seasons. His buddy Jordan is gone. Flip is coming in, and Butler recognizes that it isn’t the type of offense that will allow him to put up numbers like he has in the past. So, he looks to extend his deal quite early. The team smartly declines, so Butler realizes that to get his big payday, he needs to keep putting up big numbers. He gets frustrated with the offense, frustrated with his role on the team, frustrated with being the third banana and being paid like one, frustrated with the team losing (jeopardizing his chances of being an all-star again), frustrated with Gilbert’s immaturity and having to cater to him somewhat.

Add in Butler’s “healthy” ego (“I’m an all-star”), and is it at all surprising that Butler ignored Flip’s called play in the Dallas game to call his own number? That he wasn’t on the same page as everyone else? That Gilbert commented about how there were too many free agents-to-be on the team (though, ironically, Butler wasn’t one of those free agents, but was acting like it)?

by disgrunted on May 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shines a light on the situation...

I’ve been as sour as anyone on Butler, and that’s dating back to last season, but this article seems to remove any doubt.

1) Butler was selfish. Wanted shots, contracts and to be the focus. Butler got an early contract extension when he arrived and expected a contract extension 2 years early again? What other player in the NBA is afforded that kind of courtesy?
2) Butler was a bad leader. He says it was chaos but wasn’t he the captain?
3) Butler is a loser. Couldn’t adapt to Flip’s system which is very telling because at the end of the season in Dallas there were reports that he couldn’t adapt to Carlisle’s offense either. Truth was, Caron can’t adjust to any offense that wasn’t Ed Tapscott’s “shoot as many times as you want and don’t worry about winning games”.

WITHOUT A DOUBT, this season would have gone differently if Flip had just summarily benched Butler. Not just benched but END of the bench, keep your warmups on. The Haywood/Blatche/Jamison front line would have been great and Arenas was coming around.

by JonathanJoseph on May 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Haywood/Blatche/Jamison?

Dray playing 3 I suppose? Seriously? I mean, I know the kid likes to think of himself as a wing who can drop a decent post move occasionally, but there’s no good to be had by playing him at small forward. And, yeah, Caron got caught up in some petty nonsense this year, but are we really going to writing Gil out of all responsibility already? Can’t we at least get to next season before everybody forgets what whackjob he’s been for the last 5 years?

by imperialme on May 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a “one person to blame” limit that I’m not aware of? And wasn’t the team’s record in the toilet even before gungate?
If JJ was suggesting that by benching Butler, everything would have been peachy, I agree with you that that would not have been the case. It would have been better, but not peachy. So Butler deserves a thick slice of the blame being handed out, as does Gilbert for the gun thing.

by disgrunted on May 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not excusing Caron

But Gilbert is guilty of more than just the gun play. That’s what people seem to be whitewashing.

by imperialme on May 4, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There seems to have been an attitide problem and a communication problem

How would not only benching, but humiliating one of your captains, best players, vocal leaders have helped that?

by MR on May 4, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see how it would have

From what I can tell, the only thing that could have helped is exactly what happened. Blow the whole damn thing up.

by imperialme on May 4, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

As soon as I get a longer block of time to really write, Gil will get some treatment

Don’t worry. I just need to regroup for a bit, because that Caron post had me all featured out. It took me a while to gather all that material.

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not singling you out or anything, Mike

I just see a whole lot of people who seem all too eager to forget that Gilbert hasn’t really done a thing in 3 years and can be a major distraction on best day.

by imperialme on May 4, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caron/Lee are getting to the crux of the Wizards issues

Jamison got his. Gilbert got his. Caron didn’t. The difference is that neither of those 2 were under contract when they received their payday. both had played the FA game and used the market to force their deals. Caron didn’t have any leverage regardless of what he “deserved”.

Without a doubt the huge extension for your highest scoring player who brings little else was part of the problem. Here’s Caron leading on and off the court. He goes above and beyond in the community and gives everything on the court as well. He’s having some good years for you. Then your superstar ticket seller goes down and Caron and the team still make the playoffs. Wow.

But the star knucklehead, the guy who’s actions tell the rest of the team that rules are for suckers, gets a huge extension regardless of whether he will ever be the same player again. So where is the love for the guys who kept it together? Well, Jamison is up so he gets one more cash-in.

I understand his emotions when it comes to the franchise. Not sure of how many adults we have on the board but anyone within a decent size organization will understand the demoralizing effect that rewards can have when given to the wrong people. He saw the lead dog get rewarded despite being an aloof child because he could score points and sell tickets. He saw his co-captain cash in. He’s next right? Notsofast Caron. its life but that doesn’t make it any easier to handle.

As for Flip/Caron. Caron is not going to become some new player because of a coaching change. Either the coach knows how to use him or he doesn’t. Players, PEOPLE, do not change suddenly like this. Expecting them to is the most easily correctable error made in sports. That’s why I laugh when people suggest Beasley will some how figure life out before his rookie contract is up. Caron is an example of a man and a character we should hold on to, but the timing just didn’t work.

by Jheiser3 on May 4, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's an honest question

How much did Flip really ask Caron to change? How different was Caron’s role in 2010 from Caron’s role with Gil healthy in 2007?

It’s an honest question, not a counterpoint. My sense is that it wasn’t nearly as drastic a change as Caron portrays.

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a fair question

And it probably wasn’t as big an adjustment as it may have seemed to Caron, but I can understand why he may have thought so. I get the feeling that this conversation really comes down, most of all, to which side you’re on. Gilbert or Caron. Most people are going to side with one or the other and their reaction to the situation will be influenced by that decision. Personally, I’ve always been a fan of Caron and I’ve never been much of a fan of Gilbert. So, obviously, I come out on Butler’s side in the whole thing. I still don’t excuse his share of the blame, but I can’t say I don’t understand where he’s coming from.

by imperialme on May 4, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I side with neither, personally

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by Mike Prada on May 4, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If any stat says more about a player

and his attitude towards his teammates, and the system – it’s assists….

Gilbert’s assists went up

Caron’s went drastically down… (less than half the year before)

That’s not a systemic problem – that’s a selfish problem. He was taking more contested shots so his True Shooting Percentage dropped nearly 5 points.

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by Rook6980 on May 4, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dont think the numbers mean much...

Gilbert was allowed to dominate ball in Flip’s offense-there’s no disputing that.

Im not trying to hate on Gil…but I dont think his assist numbers have anything to do with his attitude towards his teammates…I think his assists went up because of what I said-he had the ball in his hands a LOT

I think Caron was shooting the rock more because he likes to have the ball in his hands and size up his defender before firing. He isn’t as comfortable in catch-and-shoot situations or spotting up.

Call it selfish if you want, but in the end I think dude’s pride took a shot. In my eyes Caron is more of a man than Gil and Jamison.

Wouldn’t you be upset if one of teammates got a helluva contract after getting hurt-even though no one was sure if he could return to top form-and another teammate gets a helluva contract even though he cant defend a soul and is over the hill…and when it comes time for you to get yours management decides not to payout.

^i need to work on my writing skills…but i think i got my point across.

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1) Butler was selfish. Wanted shots, contracts and to be the focus. Butler got an early contract extension when he arrived and expected a contract extension 2 years early again? What other player in the NBA is afforded that kind of courtesy?

Like i said above…Caron’s two running mates were awarded undeserved(IMO) monster contracts. He was always included in the “Big Three”. Of course he’s going to feel that he should “get his”.

He was worried about a contract extension??

Caron, you were set to make $20 million over the next two seasons and you were upset that you weren’t getting more? Or that someone else was making more? That was enough for you to put your goals about the team? You’re a moron. Give me $5 million and I’ll never need income again in my life — I mean, at some point it just becomes a number on your financial statements

Okay, let’s rag on people for wanting to get paid? Who the hell doesn’t? One of my pet peeves is people getting on athletes for wanting to get the most money they possibly can. Professional sports isn’t just guys playing for fun, it’s their JOB. You go to work to GET PAID, DONT YOU?Given the opportunity to make enough money to put my children and my children’s children through private school and college I would do the same.

I personally find it kind of pathetic how many people here are taking cheap shots at Caron. If he was still here and Gil was the one being sent out, I know who we would be blaming this season on. Im f*ck*ng sure of it. Dont get me wrong, I want to see Gil come back strong…but there’s no need to throw guys that have left under the bus.

Im glad that he left with some class…he didn’t have to write a letter to post if he wanted too.

In the end I am and always have been a fan of Caron’s. Maybe it makes my opinion a bit biased, but whatever.

by tw10 on May 5, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

clarifying my post a little bit...

Call it selfish if you want, but in the end I think dude’s pride took a shot.

^this relates to this —>

Wouldn’t you be upset if one of teammates got a helluva contract after getting hurt-even though no one was sure if he could return to top form-and another teammate gets a helluva contract even though he cant defend a soul and is over the hill…and when it comes time for you to get yours management decides not to payout.


In my eyes Caron is more of a man than Gil and Jamison.

^randomly and poorly placed opinion. I have my own record of arrests and I know what its like to go through stuff like that.

What Gilbert did to get arrested was just dumb. IMO he didn’t really need any punishment I think this whole process has been enough to scare him out of trouble.


Maybe it makes my opinion a bit biased, but whatever.

Ok, I am biased. But at least I cant admit it :).

by tw10 on May 5, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't htink it was much

my point about players/coaches comes from posts above where Caron was a “loser” for not being someone new because he had a new coach.

by Jheiser3 on May 4, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't Flip ask Caron to be primarily be a defensive stopper?

at the start of the season. Perhaps in Caron’s mind, this further marginalized his role/ability to put up good numbers, and thus impacting his contract situation

by sweet_as on May 5, 2010 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I missing something?

I watched every game and early on Caron would come off a screen and be wide open for a shot. He could either A) take the open shot, B) jab jab stutter step pump fake take contested jumper, or C) Drive to the hole on 3 guys and commit a charge or a stupid turnover. He generally did options B and C. I couldn’t for the life of me understand why he would not take the open shot. He did this every game. So no, I can’t blame Flip’s system. Flip system got Caron open shots. He just made terrible decisions. Gil’s assist numbers would have probably been up to 10 (another 3 a game) if Caron just took the open shot when he had it. I can see why Gil would be pissed. He would actually run the offense and then Caron would sabatoge it. I may be in the minority that thinks Gil actually played a mostly unselfish (sometimes too unselfish) game this year. It’s like Caron purposely took his time with the shots to make sure Gil didn’t get any credit with the assists.

by SteelmaticSP02 on May 5, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

He was worried about a contract extension??

Caron, you were set to make $20 million over the next two seasons and you were upset that you weren’t getting more? Or that someone else was making more? That was enough for you to put your goals about the team? You’re a moron. Give me $5 million and I’ll never need income again in my life — I mean, at some point it just becomes a number on your financial statements. It’s stupidiculous that someone would let the lack of being guaranteed some extra money that they don’t need cause them to suck at their job, and therefore cost them much more then they would have gained. Wow. Now Dallas wants to unload him? I can’t say I’m surprised.

by steadyhand on May 5, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

So?

Who cares if you would play for less? Millions of us would play for less but it wouldn’t be entertaining thus there would be no TV revenue or ticket sales, so no money at all. Which gets us back to playing for free.

These guys generate millions and should get paid for it. Gilbert got paid, Jamison got paid yet the guy who was as much of a rock as anyone, Caron, didn’t. He shouldn’t have expected an extension with 2 years left but that’s another story.

by Jheiser3 on May 6, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taking things out of context...

Its always pick-and-choose with quotes if you don’t like the guy.

The media could turn pretty much anyone they wanted too into a villain(Imagine if they wanted to make LeBron a bad guy). Just read whole article before you formulate you opinion.

by tw10 on May 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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