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Washington Wizards links for May 2: Someone else wants to bring back the Bullets

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Mike Jones Sports: Bring Back the Bullets

Mike Jones, formerly of the Washington Times and currently of Comcast SportsNet, writes on his blog today that one of Ted Leonsis' first acts as the team's new owner should be to change the nickname back to Bullets.  Jones writes that there was "speculation" that Leonsis was thinking about actually doing this until the incident with Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton happened.  He also writes that several fans have told him how they want the nickname to be changed back.
I say do it. It's not like Wizards has a terribly positive ring to it . . . especially given all the bad karma this franchise has experienced since Arenas blew out his knee in April of 2007. Right now around the NBA, Wizards = laughing stock. The days of the Wes Unseld-led Bullets remain the proudest moments of this franchise, so bring the name back.

And one thing's for sure, Ted & Co. will make a good chunk of change on jersey sales.    

Just to be clear, this site's name isn't an endorsement for changing the name back as much as it is a homage to the team's history.  However, I also think it'd be cool to change the name back, though I understand that would be difficult to do at this point.

(Thanks to se7en for pointing this one out).

More below the jump

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"Technically True " Teds Take

Leonsis reminds us that the NBA, NHL and the WNBA still need to approve the terms of the deal he signed yesterday to become the new owner of the team.  

Speaking of Leonsis, he also continues to show his devotion to analytics in basketball, praising David Berri and Martin Schmidt's "Stumbling on Wins" and Wayne Winston's "Mathletics."  I'm not a big fan of either of those approaches, since they seem too dogmatic to be taken seriously, but hopefully Leonsis realizes that as well.   

Truth About It " The Epitome of Randy Foye"

Kyle sums up Randy Foye's season, with numbers and other stuff.  Essentially, he writes that Foye is a great, great guy that has overcome so much to get here, but he just doesn't provide much on-court impact.  I agree. 

Also, Kyle writes about the random connection between Jahidi White, Ted Leonsis and Michael Jordan.  This was interesting.  

Kyle Weidie Discusses the 2009-2010 Washington Wizards | Hoops Addict

Also, Kyle discusses the Wizards' season and his experience receiving and using credentials for the first time with Hoops Addict's Rashad Mobley.  

2010 NBA Mock Draft, Version 1.0 - Ridiculous Upside

In his first of many mock drafts, Scott Schroeder has the Wizards taking Wesley Johnson with the fifth pick, Willie Warren with the 30th pick and Jarvis Varnado with the 34th pick.

Rick Snider: With Leonsis in control, time to take care of a few things | Washington Examiner

Included in this column is this line that got me curious.
If Gilbert Arenas is returning to the Wizards following his gun conviction that derailed the season, make peace with the fans now. Some will welcome Arenas back because he is a super player. But some won't and Verizon can't handle more empty seats. Get Arenas in front of the cameras for his public mea culpa. Make him regularly deal with fans until everyone's happy.    
Here's my response: how much work does Arenas really have to do to win support back?  I realize BF isn't the perfect subset of Wizards fans, but it seems to me like many of the people here have indeed made peace with Arenas and are willing to welcome him back.  There's also all the letters from fans and other community members in Gilbert's defense memo that pledged their support to him.  So many people from so many different walks of life wrote to express their support.  

Obviously, there are many other fans upset with him that want an explanation.  I get that.  But it really doesn't seem like Arenas will have to do nearly as much to win back fan support as Snider thinks.  This kind of strikes me as a mainstream writer throwing out something that sounds like it makes sense without really immersing himself in the fan culture.

But that's just my feeling, and I figured we should get more definitive data.  Therefore, I put in a new poll on the right to try to hit at this question further.  If you have a chance, please respond.  

Fegan is Gilbert Arenas' former agent.  


I wrote this and had a long Twitter discussion with Michael Tillery, a Philly-based writer whom I greatly respect, about it.  Feel free to respond.  My basic argument is that, if the NBA is so worried about maintaining a large enough electorate to hand over MVP votes to team employees that aren't voting objectively, then they should give prominent Internet writers and bloggers those votes, even if they may not have access.
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Should the Wizards change their nickname back to Bullets?
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No
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Theres no doubt that the franchise name Wizards needs to be eradicated. With new starts come new labels. Its no doubt that the name Bullets should have never been changed. A Bullet means a lot more than DC violence. A bullet is a propelled object with accuracy, it helped men harvest meals for their family use bullets to hunt, they are used in ceremonies, they are used by our military when saving american lives.

Mike can we put together a petition or something co-signing the Bullets change? Maybe send it to Wizard/Bullets management.

Theirs no doubt Wizards is synonymous with failure, the name has to go.

Arenas and Dray in Bullets jerseys, wow I think I actually got excited for this Wiz.. ugh excuse Bullets team again.

by Unxpekted on May 3, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel like there are currently two main issues with changing back to the Bullets:

1) Abe Pollin’s legacy. If I recall correctly he was the driving force in changing from the Bullets to the Wizards. He was vehemently against gun violence (as we all are I guess) so, while I don’t necessarily feel like going back to the Bullets would be a personal insult to the Pollin family, it would certainly ruffle some feathers around the NBA and in DC inner circles.

2) Gilbert Arenas. I don’t see how Leonsis could allow the name change with Gilbert Arenas on the roster. I’m also not familiar with the politics of a name change, but if David Stern has any say, I don’t see him approving of one back to the Bullets.

That being said, I’m all for a name change. The Wizards have done nothing but disappoint; the Bullets were once NBA Champions. I just don’t see it happening in the wake of Gil’s incident. The timing is off.

The best we can hope for at this point is a uniform change back to red, white, and blue, while remaining the Wizards. It’s mind-boggling that they’ve kept the blue and gold (and other hideous alternate uniform variations) for this long. A uniform change symbolizes greater change and can really energize the fan base heading into next season.

DC Landing Strip - Waxed and Ready to Go

by Alex Reed on May 3, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Explanation

I want the name change as bad as anyone – I don’t care what people think. I loved the Bullets name, but this is a good explanation of the problems we face in our campaign.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a long-term standpoint

Considering a thorough rebuild lasts three or four years, meaning it will not come to fruition during Gilbert’s prime, is it insane to allow in considerations of Gilbert’s future with the team for weight to be placed on the fact that he stands in the way of what could long-term be a monumentally positive change for the organization back from Wizards to Bullets
How many on this site would throw Gil overboard for a return to the Bullets? If I am an absolute baffoon, please be kind enough to point that out too so that I may come to terms with that fact.

by morethesamewiz on May 3, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike can we put together a petition or something co-signing the Bullets change? Maybe send it to Wizard/Bullets management.

Feel free. I can pass it along. Not sure I can endorse it myself right now, but I’ll let you know if I change my mind.

BF on Twitter I BF on Facebook.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 3, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Endorsement

Will you not endorse it because of the guns thing? Suppose that whole guns-in-the-locker-room-thing (I love how that’s the new name for the incident) didn’t happen, would you endorse it?

What can we do to convince you to jump on board? :) If we can’t convince Teddy Boy, at least we can try and convince Mike Prada.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suppose that whole guns-in-the-locker-room-thing (I love how that’s the new name for the incident) didn’t happen, would you endorse it?

Probably.

BF on Twitter I BF on Facebook.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 3, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long would the negative press last?

I mean its not a major national event, its a basketball team. It might get mention in the press for part of one day, and then the general public will move on. That is unless local and national anti-gun, anti-gang, anti-violence, youth organizations come out very vocally against the change (which Leonsis could avoid by talking to them beforehand and also pairing the name change with some kind of nominal partnership between the Bullets and an anti-violence advocacy campaign).
After the public forgets about it after one day, the only lasting impact would be on the fans and the fans would eat it up. Imagine how many people out there are discouraged from buying team gear because of the embarrassment of walking around with a shirt/jersey/hoody that has Wizards in HUGE print on it and some bazaar logo with a Wizard with a star in his right hand pointed at the basketball in his left hand on it. All those people would be back buying team gear.
And its not ridiculous to also consider the effect on the players and the desirability of playing for Washington. The other teams have history and/or attractive design on their jerseys/logos/nicknames. Its something a player can buy into and proudly call himself a member of. Would anybody want to call himself a Wizard?

by morethesamewiz on May 3, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please start the petition Unxpekted

I don’t want to steal your idea, but if you start a petition in FanPosts I would be thrilled to sign it.

by morethesamewiz on May 3, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since I'll be President before they're the Bullets

I can live with Wizards, but the logo, colors, and uniforms have to go. I like the way the caps have gone back to a stylized version of their name as their logo, and I feel that the Wizards could do this too. My vote would be for red white blue unis with Orange as the alternate roadies.

I bet we’re stuck with purple seats at Verizon for awhile either way. Too bad; I’d love red.

That's right, I said the Wizards would win 49 games in 09-10. Free advice is sometimes worth what you pay.

by bronco6778 on May 3, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm mostly with this

I can understand not changing the name back, but at least let’s go back to our old colors.

BF on Twitter I BF on Facebook.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 3, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullets!

TEDDY BOY.

Listen up.

There’s a reason those Bullets jerseys sell so well. The Wizards name, image, logo, mascot, and everything is so lame. G-Wiz? G-Man? Fan-Man? Give me a break. Bring back Hoops. Bring back the red and white. Bring back the Bullets. Save this franchise.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Silliness

Everyone should realize that changing the team name will require a substantial amount of resources and effort from Leonsis’s new team. Personally, I would rather Leonsis and his people focus their time and attention on improving the team rather than worry about something as unimportant as a name and the color of the teams uniforms. Lots of NBA teams have names that are just as terrible and stupid as the Wizards. It’s not important.

Plus, Stern’s not going to let NBA teams change their name whenever they want.

by disgrunted on May 3, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

true

this is why I don’t expect any changes in colors or mascots until after his first year. First, it takes time to coordinate with the NBA and apparel companies for these BIG changes. If the deadline to change your number is March how much earlier do teams have to have their colors and mascot changes in?

Second, this is going to be another transition year. No reason to hurry up and dump all those new color schemes on this squad when the point is to plan for a reemergence in 11-12.

by Jheiser3 on May 3, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard that Micheal Jordan is changing the name of the Bobcats at the end of the season, but that’s just a rumor I heard on tv…

by ImFROMdc88 on May 3, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's in a name, really?

seriously, i really don’t give a crap what the name is. We could be called the Washington Generals for all I care, I just want competent individuals and players running this team. and if you want my opinion, i guess i’m kinda young for a wizards fan so I don’t remember the good old bullets days, but i think the old red/white/blue bullets uniforms were butt ugly.

by Marine4Life51 on May 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

what r u talking about man
the Bullet jerseys are HOT man
if that dont look good to you homie then theres somthing wrong wit ya lol

by eltacoman on May 3, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

this right here convinced me that we NEED to go back to the bullets right away… unfortunately i think if ted does change the team name it will be to zephyrs, generals, justice, etc. something that doesn’t bring to mind that picture of gil dancing around hand(gun)s waving

by jeffbenson on May 3, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know man

the ugly jerseys are obstructing my view! =P

by Marine4Life51 on May 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha. love those high socks too

The modernization of sports uniforms is an interesting thing. Look at baseball; how many guys wear high socks anymore? Maybe one or two percent of the players wear them now. I love them though. All that said, obviously no one in basketball is going to be switching back to short shorts and high socks any time soon.

by young, loud and Scotty on May 3, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am all for a new name

I voted for the Bullets but it doesn’t have to be “Bullets.” I really want the “Wizards” name to be changed and I loved the idea of going back to the red/white/blue uniforms. We have the Capitols and the Nationals; we need our basketball team with a name along those lines. Sorry but there is just nothing tough about the “Wizards” name.

Long-Time Wizard Fan

by WizardFan on May 3, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted no

I loved the Bullets name and I was at the Cap Centre in ‘78 and “Wizards” never really did it for me. But respect for Abe and the Pollin family plus the Arenas situation should trump. I’d be fine with another name though and I’m all for going back to red, white, and blue.

by ReboundingLs on May 3, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Easiest way to regain Arena’s reputation? Play well and win games.

by Fundefined on May 3, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

As good as this team has been the past two seasons

they could just call them the Washington BB’s, instead of the Bullets.

“We may not have much firepower, but we do sting a little bit.”

by young, loud and Scotty on May 3, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Wanting to ban the name "Bullets"

because it might incite gun violence—while welcoming back Gilbert Arenas, the local poster-boy for pistol-packing—makes less than no logical sense (incidentally, I want the franchise to be rid of Arenas not because he made that mistake but because he’s a selfish, one-dimensional ball-hog with a lousy attitude toward both team play and his teammates who’s got bad knees and a franchise-crippling contract).

But then changing the name of any sports franchise, thereby betraying that team’s fans and history, makes no logical sense, either, absent a move. Some NBA teams have enjoyed some success with a name change, like the “Thunder”; mostly they do it to reassure their new fans that they aren’t moving back home again. Some, like the “Clippers”, have consigned themselves to oblivion with it. Others, like the Jazz and Lakers, took their history with them and have prospered.

It’s time for our basketball team to get its history back. Without that history, a sports franchise is like a subjugated country—it lacks a true sense of identity. This, as much as bad luck, has plagued Pollin’s franchise since the name change. If it had brought the city a decrease in gun violence in return, then that might provide some sort of argument for continuing it, but since the Bullets became the Wizards, we’ve seen everything in this town from the Beltway Sniper to the drive-by shootings last night that killed 2 and wounded 5. So how’s the sanitization of the word “bullet” working out? Again, speaking entirely logically, it hasn’t made a speck of difference.

In the modern era, no sports franchise I can think of has changed its nickname without a move, not even when, like the “Redskins”, that name is an undeniable affront to minorities; again, that name has a proud history. "Bullets’ seems pretty mild by comparison, and certainly no more violent than “The Sabres” or “The Diamondbacks”. Pollin’s act, in retrospect, was a senile one, like so many of his decisions, and no good has come of it. It’s time to bite the bullet and change it back again.

by Iwitness on May 3, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

If they change the name back...

They will definitely get my money if they change the jerseys. I have never bought any Wizards jerseys or memorabilia because I just hated the color scheme, name and mascot. However if they change the name and bring back the RED WHITE and BLUE ill be first in line to get my jersey!!!

by ImFROMdc88 on May 3, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s funny. After all the years I’ve been going to games, I’ve never bought memorabilia either. I really think it’s because of the ugly name, logo, and color scheme. I always wanted to get one of those Bullets away jerseys of Jordan (it’s kinda cool), but never got around to it. Hell, I’d never wear it much. But a t-shirt? Oh yeah. Bring back the name and the colors, and I’ll be there buying me a t-shirt. That’s a promise, Teddy Boy.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 4, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have to vote no

As lame as it might sound, I really think Abe Pollin’s legacy in this regard should mean something. I’m all for changing the name from Wizards to something else, but I just don’t think that something else should be Bullets.

by Matt K. on May 3, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we use D.C. instead of Washington?

That may give us more options for a team name.

by Romans12 on May 3, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I might get a lot of flack for this.

BUT WHO GIVES A DARN ABOUT Abe Pollin’s legacy!

Now you can easily take that the wrong way but heres how I break it down.

1.) What he has done is amazing for our franchise and DC, but lets be honest, at times its almost embarassing being a “Wizards” fan. Changing the name would rid this issue and erase any negative connotations with the awful franchise name “Wizards”

2.) Wizards is synonymous with injuries. Trying to be something other than the Bullets doesnt make sense personally. You don’t change the Celtics or Cavaliers, I understand these are “safe” franchise names but regardless they have history.

3) Another thing is with a name change psychologically players may be more willing to join the wagon of a team w/o the Wizards curse stapled to it.

4.) Keeping the Wizards name is only a negative and bad idea when following some of the worst seasons this franchise has seen. New slate, start fresh. You blew up all the players, well time to let the Wizards RIP with those players and its time for a fresh new name for a fresh new team.

5.) Lets keep it real, WIZARDS? Really? It really is ABSOLUTELY terrible.

Just my piece. If some dont like Bullets fine, but please no Wizards, or Wizards colors come next season, please.

PS. Why do the Caps have the Bullets colors! We need them too!

by Unxpekted on May 4, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

I feel the same way. It’s not Pollin’s team anymore. I never liked his decision in the first place, and this is the perfect time (okay, it might have been more perfect without the whole guns-in-the-locker-room-thing, well it’s funny actually, the timing, so maybe it is perfect timing) to change the name back.

Plus, in talking bad PR, it seems to me that the Washington Redskins is a bit more politically incorrect than Washington Bullets. I love the Skins’ mascot, but nobody really thought Bullets was an issue. It was Pollin who came in trying to be a shining light and made our team name the laughing stock of the NBA. Laughing stock of the NBA? Maybe the name does fit. Okay, Pollin was onto something.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on May 4, 2010 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given all the throwback jerseys

Is this relatively necessary as a permanent change?

Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.

by Jon L on May 4, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, "Wizards" was/is just horrible

The whole thing was bad: the “vote” on the name, the slim number of names you could vote on (“the Dragons, The Express, The Stallions, The Sea Dogs, and The Wizards”), and that the Pollins did not release the result of what they said was a public vote. They basically self-selected a tremendously stupid name out of a list of self-selected stupid names. A set-up is what it was, and who knows why someone thought that was cool. Irene? So don’t get me started on the value of “honoring the Pollin legacy,” at least only with respect to the team’s name. And the mascot…ugh. So going back to “Bullets” would be great, imo, except for the obvious public opinion problems. I’d say the best way to fix this would be to have another vote, except a real one this time. I’d submit the name, “Constitutionals” into the mix, just to make the change back to “Bullets” a little more likely.

by Tbonebullets on May 4, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

I had been trying to remember the terrible name that we had to choose from. It make me mad to have the name we have. I Prefer the mane Bullets also. If not I would like DC Generals. Has a nice ring to it.

by Danyon Rome on May 4, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also like the Generals as a name, if not the Bullets.

…and on the list of bad names to submit, in addition to “Constitutionals,” is “Arsenal.” I was always amused that the Brits think that is cool: “and introducing, Your Arsenal!”

by Tbonebullets on May 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A follow-up poll question

I would guess a higher percentage oppose Wizards than support Bullets. Can we see if that poll produces different numbers? Asking simply whether to change the nickname from the Wizards rather than specifically to change the name back to Bullets might bring a result closer to unanimity because many who oppose Bullets out of respect for Abe’s legacy might support the general proposition of retiring the Wizards nickname.
Pretty please?

by morethesamewiz on May 4, 2010 1:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

More on that

If Leonsis keep his finger as close to fans’ pulse as we hope, seeing near-unanimous opposing Wizards might have substantial effect whereas 4 out of 5 supporting Bullets might not (since Ted probably does not see that as a viale option anyway).

by morethesamewiz on May 4, 2010 1:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

if we can't have the bullets

then maybe something more descriptive like:

the goofballs – for arenas
the slackers – for young and his companions
the whiners – in memory of butler
the hurt – for their injuries
the first round and outs – for their playoff results
the unluckies – for their luck in the draft
the chuckers – for george castansa

by stevie on May 4, 2010 4:42 AM EDT reply actions  

In the spirit of

the Miami Heat, Phoenix Suns, OKC Thunder, and Angry Boston Irishmen, we should be… the DC Humidity.

by yop32 on May 4, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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